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'Make' Premier Issue

prostoalex writes "The premier issue of Make magazine arrived in a thick envelope in my mailbox a few days ago. The magazine has been previousl publicized on Slashdot. Edited (in chief) by Mark Frauenfelder from BoingBoing and published by John Battelle and O'Reilly, this is an attempt for a quarterly publication for hackers, tinkerers, do-it-yourself type of guys and people interested in technology (not necessarily computers)." Read on for Alex's review; this sounds like the best parts of 1970s-era Popular Mechanics. Make author Published by John Battelle and O'Reilly Media pages 192 publisher www.makezine.com rating 10 reviewer Alex Moskalyuk ISBN 0596009224 summary A quarterly magazine on DIY technology

But enough with the links. On the front page the magazine features 181 pages for DIY technology, promising stories on aerial photography, backyard monorails, XM radio hacks, iPod tricks, DIY magnetic card reader and blogging made simple. Make is roughly half the size of a normal full-page magazine (like PC Mag or InfoWorld) and generally feels like a paperback book more than a magazine. The paper is also not the glossy print you'd see in normal magazines, it says on page 8 that they used New Leaf Paper, made 100% from post-consumer waste. Make generally uses normal-type font, which should be readable by anyone, except for some pages where they switch to really large fonts.

The magazine is broken down into several logical categories. It starts with editors' welcome letters and short features of some DIY projects people have done on their own (this guy's backyard monorail stands out). The Maker pages in this premiere issue contain an interview with Neil Gershenfeld from MIT, an article on heirloom technology, possibility of building an open-source car and an expose of Bay Area Dorkbot group.

The Projects category (starting at p. 49) is where the real fun starts. The projects take up majority of the pages, and it makes sense - looks like the authors put their best into providing excruciating details, pieces of advice and general information, so that anyone can follow their work. The projects are well-illustrated, some contain necessary diagrams and cartoon-like explanations of what needs to be done to assemble the proper devices, the step-by-step pages contain both pictures and text. Each project is sub-divided into several parts - Set up (list of everything needed before you start), Make it (the actual step-by-step instructions and discussion of the projects), Use it (reasons for tinkering with the project in the first place). The setup list is also provided on Make Web site, like here's the list of components for magnetic stripe reader.

The projects for the issue include adding a disposable camera to the kite for aerial photography, a $14 video camera stabilizer, 5-in-1 network cable (the combination of RJ45 and DB9 inputs) and the magnetic stripe reader.

The major projects are followed by the projects consuming less time and efforts. This is mainly for people who would rather spend more money at the spot, buy some cool accessory to complement their electronic device, and do minimal engineering on their own, as far as I understand. The categories include Home Entertainment, Mobile, Cars, Online, Computers and some additional projects that did not fit anywhere above. The table of contents contains the complete list of projects.

It looks like the magazine that is needed in the market. At some point playing with technology became synonymous with running to the nearest mall and getting the latest electronic gadget, and even RadioShack nowadays mostly looks like a flashy storefront for selling cell service plans and new PDAs. Make is the magazine for people who like to look under the hood, who like to work on do-it-yourself projects and who feel great accomplishment when a project is over, even though its practical usability might be questioned. Of course, the amount of projects in the magazine is a bit overwhelming, but my guess is they figure you'll find some extremely interesting and some are just not interesting at all.

Since I grew up in the Soviet Union, Make magazine reminds me of Young Technician (when technician meant someone involved with technology), a Russian must-subscribe boy magazine that would pull the latest science and technology news together, and also dedicate large portion of its pages to readers' projects. Of course, nowadays, in the age of Hack A Day, Lifehacker and numerous HOW-TOs such magazine might not exactly have the exclusive coverage of the DIY projects. Google might turn out more results, but for some of the projects it also looks like the authors were either pioneers or authorities in their field since googling for DIY aerial photography provides just Make article and a bunch of links to it.

Make is a quarterly publication, so $35 subscription fee covers only 4 issues per year. A bit expensive, but if you plan to enrich yourself and spend free time more productively, I think Make has lots of content to entice the reader and keep him busy for 3 months. First impression might not mean a whole lot, but Make was one of few magazines that I enjoyed reading from page 1 to page 192.

198 comments

  1. I'll wait by Rei · · Score: 5, Funny

    I think I'll wait for its successor, CMake magazine. I've heard that it's a lot easier to understand.

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    1. Re:I'll wait by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think I'll wait for its successor, CMake magazine. I've heard that it's a lot easier to understand.

      Microsofties will be waiting for nmake the magazine.

    2. Re:I'll wait by fembots · · Score: 1

      Top seller will always be MakeLove Magazine though.

    3. Re:I'll wait by afabbro · · Score: 1

      And Java geeks are waiting for ant magazine.

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    4. Re:I'll wait by Mad+Bad+Rabbit · · Score: 4, Funny

      Be sure to read 'Configure' magazine beforehand.
      And after you finish reading 'Make', read it again
      (but just the Install section).

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    5. Re:I'll wait by captainClassLoader · · Score: 1

      CMake sounds good, but I'll wait for next version after that - It's going to have edgy artwork, glossy paper, and a million features (most of which I won't use). I hear it's going to called Ant.

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    6. Re:I'll wait by Deinhard · · Score: 1

      I'd hate to see the build.xml file for an entire magazine!

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    7. Re:I'll wait by tehshen · · Score: 1

      It isn't available in my country, so I read something called 'Autogen' instead

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    8. Re:I'll wait by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


      Let's hope to god that they're never desperate enough to come out with xmake..

    9. Re:I'll wait by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      GNU/Make or gmake ?

    10. Re:I'll wait by 3terrabyte · · Score: 1

      I think I'll just wait to DL the PDF at the NG.
      BOYB

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    11. Re:I'll wait by fm6 · · Score: 1

      That's only for magazines that are generated by Automake. This magazine is written by actual people.

    12. Re:I'll wait by Profane+MuthaFucka · · Score: 1

      Imake magazine is printed in cuneiform.

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    13. Re:I'll wait by chris_eineke · · Score: 1
      Be sure to read 'Configure' magazine beforehand.

      I thought automake would do the reading part. :(
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    14. Re:I'll wait by Mikkeles · · Score: 1
      ' I think I'll wait for its successor, CMake magazine.'

      And I'll wait for gnuMake - with dozens more options and published under the GFDL!

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    15. Re:I'll wait by aug24 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Careful... if you don't read the Clean section of Make magazine first of all, you could find yourself reading stale articles from the last issue you read.

      Justin.

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  2. Yeah, But... by Nom+du+Keyboard · · Score: 4, Funny
    a quarterly publication for hackers, tinkerers, do-it-yourself type of guys and people interested in technology (not necessarily computers)

    Yeah but, will it ever replace Slashdot?

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    1. Re:Yeah, But... by cjsnell · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yeah but, will it ever replace Slashdot?

      Probably not...duplicate stories will cost you $8.74 /ea.

    2. Re:Yeah, But... by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 4, Funny

      No, but Make actually tells/shows you how to do something, instead of simply screaming at you to RTFM.

    3. Re:Yeah, But... by sdo1 · · Score: 2, Funny
      Yeah but, will it ever replace Slashdot?

      Until I get a flat panel monitor on the wall of my bathroom, the magazine will have to do.

      -S

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    4. Re:Yeah, But... by ggvaidya · · Score: 1

      Yeah but, will it ever replace Slashdot?

      But what about the trolls? Will Nobody Think of the Trolls?!

    5. Re:Yeah, But... by antoy · · Score: 1

      Get a laptop!

    6. Re:Yeah, But... by EnronHaliburton2004 · · Score: 1

      Yeah but, will it ever replace Slashdot?

      Never, because the point behind 'Make' is to actually READ the articles.

      On /., we just mock the articles.

    7. Re:Yeah, But... by ErikTheRed · · Score: 1
      Until I get a flat panel monitor on the wall of my bathroom, the magazine will have to do.
      You'll never guess where I'm reading this :)
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    8. Re:Yeah, But... by TheoMurpse · · Score: 1

      Well, that is because Make is TFM.

  3. "previousl publicized"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    In Soviet Russia typos make YOU!

  4. $35 for 4 issues by John+Seminal · · Score: 2, Interesting
    lets see some of the reports from issue #1:

    192: My First Computer
    Remembering how my dad built an Apple II from scratch.

    170: MakeShift
    Imagine this: Your car battery is dead, and you're stuck in the woods. Your mission: Get home before you freeze to death.

    84: $14 Video Camera Stabilizer
    You don't have $10,000 to spend on a Steadicam? Make this ultra-low-cost video camera stabilizer and see how much better your video shots turn out.

    I think I'll pass on this one. Maybe when they get to 12 issues for $12.95 I'll think about it.

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    1. Re:$35 for 4 issues by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For the other two I can find plenty of information on the web, but for that middle one . . . I DON'T WANT TO FREEZE TO DEATH!!11

    2. Re:$35 for 4 issues by Trigun · · Score: 2, Funny

      I'll give you a hint; spin the alternator really fast with the ignition key on. Pantyhose work wonders for a makeshift engine belt, but are difficult to explain to the wife when she finds them wadded up in your glovebox.

    3. Re:$35 for 4 issues by Commander+Doofus · · Score: 2, Funny

      Pantyhose work wonders for a makeshift engine belt, but are difficult to explain to the wife...

      Never mind that, how do you explain your sig to your wife?

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    4. Re:$35 for 4 issues by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Never mind that, how do you explain your microscopic cock to your wife?

    5. Re:$35 for 4 issues by Chinfro · · Score: 1

      In Soviet Russia, microscopic cock explains YOU to wife!

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    6. Re:$35 for 4 issues by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 1

      That is really good advice, that could save a life. Can I unhook any of the other belts from the alternator, to make it easier to spin? Which belts have to stay connected? The pantyhose are usually worn by people who can't pull that hard, and I'd rather explain to her over the cellphone than come out and do it myself.

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    7. Re:$35 for 4 issues by Trigun · · Score: 1

      The alternator only has one belt on it. Most of the time there is a tensioner that will allow you to slide the belt off without cutting it (in the event of a single serpintine belt), but this belt has to be replaced to run the car, as it runs the water pump. Older vehicles have two belts, one that runs the power steering and water pump, one that runs the alternator and A/C. You can safely cut that one off, charge the battery, then replace it with the pantyhose. Just remember, you're going to have to spin that alternator like Lance Armstrong, but ten minutes at high RPM should work.

    8. Re:$35 for 4 issues by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 1

      That's pretty cool - but are you telling me that I've got to spin the alternator for 10 minutes (with ignition key on) to charge the battery before using the recharged battery to start the car, or to just start the car instead of using the battery? I'd think that just starting the car would take spinning for only a few seconds.

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    9. Re:$35 for 4 issues by Trigun · · Score: 1

      The starter motor takes a lot of juice to turn over the engine, somewhere in the neighbourhood of 200 Amps. Unless you're really good, there is no way you're going to be able to turn that alternator as fast as your engine can. I would say that a minimum of ten minutes would be needed to get enough juice into the battery to start. Newer alternators have the regulator circuits built into them, so you could theoretically rig up a bicycle to do it, if you had tools to remove the alternator, and a spare bicycle. But if you're going to carry all that for just such an emergency, just throw an old marine battery in your trunk. Marine batteries last a long time, and give out the same cranking amps until they are dead.

      But we're getting way past hypothetical now.

    10. Re:$35 for 4 issues by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 1

      Well, let's keep it hypothetical, with no extra preparation. The car's battery dies. It's rear-wheel drive, so I jack up the front, and run the pantyhose around the alternator hub. I stretch it out, turning the corner around a long bolt, and around the axle of the nearby wheel. I then spin the wheel for about 10 minutes, with ignition engaged, charging the battery. When I can flip on the headlights to full brightness, I start the engine. Or does the engine just finally start when the battery voltage gets over the threshold?

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    11. Re:$35 for 4 issues by Trigun · · Score: 1

      The engine will not auto start, as the flywheel has to turn , which it will not if you have removed the alternator belt. But the headlights would be a good indication of when you would have enough juice to start.

      If you haven't removed the alternator belt, you'd have a better chance of crank-starting the engine than you would charging the battery (i.e. very little chance). And you have to replace the alternator belt otherwise you won't make it very far.

      Interestingly enough, you could use an alternator as an electrical turbine connected to a UPS to generate your own power (or two if your UPS is 24 volt). Windmills, hydroelectric dams, all powered by junk. If you wanted to go even further, you could even build a power supply that made use of the 12 volts, and split it into 12, 5, and 3.3 volt rails and run your PC. Your monitor would be a little trickier, but an LCD screen should be straightforward to get the proper voltages.

      I guess it's time for me to grab some industrial-strength alternators and give this a shot. Too bad I don't live on a stream.

    12. Re:$35 for 4 issues by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 1

      So, if I've got this straight, I could unhook the alternator belts (after possibly detensioning), wrap the pantyhose around the alternator hub and the jacked-up tire, engage the ignition and spin the tire pretty fast for about 10 minutes. When the headlights return to full brightness, I disengage the ignotion, reattach the alternator belts (remove the pantyhose - always my favorite part ;), then engage the ignition, and the car will start.

      Then drive back to my streamside cabin, dock the car to the paddlewheel, and go inside to email you a thanks on my stream-powered workstation. Right?

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    13. Re:$35 for 4 issues by Trigun · · Score: 1

      Exactly.

      And if you think that I'm a nut, I know a guy who would fill 50 gallon drums with chicken shit and hay to form compressed methane to burn for cooking fuel and light. I've never tried it. Personally I can't stand chickens, and I'd have no need for it if I can generate enough electricity to cook with.

      Think of it all as one of those crank-up radios on steroids. Maybe I'll get one of those 4-wheeled Segway's that were on here a while back/ and become totally self-reliant.

      Timothy McWho?

    14. Re:$35 for 4 issues by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 1

      I thought it was "Angus MacGyver" :). I like what they're doing with chicken shit and 50gal drums over at CWT.

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    15. Re:$35 for 4 issues by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Best. Soviet Russia joke. Ever.

      Thanks for the laugh.

    16. Re:$35 for 4 issues by Trigun · · Score: 1

      Cool site. There goes my frday afternoon.

  5. In other news by bbzzdd · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Today Microsoft announced nmake. Instructions free, diagrams only available after signing NDA.

  6. Does this mean... by Robotron23 · · Score: 5, Funny

    We have to go...outside to do these projects?

    1. Re:Does this mean... by Spytap · · Score: 1

      We have to go...outside to do these projects?

      Aren't there bears "Outside?"

    2. Re:Does this mean... by nacturation · · Score: 2, Funny

      Of course not! The next issue details constructing your own wind tunnel so that you can implement this issue's aerial kite photography project.

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  7. Go Make Go! by alamut · · Score: 4, Funny

    I heard about this on the previous /. article, It sounded like a cool mag, but you can never be too sure. now that a real human has read it and told me about it, i am much more comfortable about shelling out my hard earned bux.

    of course, now i'll have to suffer with h4x0r inferiority complex, but thats the price i'll pay....

    1. Re:Go Make Go! by iocat · · Score: 1

      Anyone else get their's yet? I subscribed but haven't received an issue yet -- thought I did get an email subscriber survey.

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    2. Re:Go Make Go! by Fjornir · · Score: 1

      I'm a bit annoyed that I haven't recieved mine yet. Given the amount of email they've thrown at me (the survey, the "Make News" letter, ... ) and the fact that on 2/4 I was told "in a few days"...

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    3. Re:Go Make Go! by Keepiru · · Score: 1

      I got mine like two weeks ago, Of course, the day that I got the offer I went in and signed up online. I'd imagine that they have quite a few issues to ship out. While I'm not overly interested in the projects in this one, I do like the layout, and I'm sure there will be projects I like in later ones. The articles were great, especially the one on a Fab Lab, I so want some of that equipment.

    4. Re:Go Make Go! by Lord+Dimwit+Flathead · · Score: 1

      I'm still waiting for mine too. Maybe in the next issue they can run an article on postal service optimization.

    5. Re:Go Make Go! by SquadBoy · · Score: 1

      I got mine on Monday Feb. 14th. But I'm on the West Coast.

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    6. Re:Go Make Go! by Fjornir · · Score: 1

      Got mine today, FYI. :) Can't wait to go home to read it.

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  8. 192 Pages? by John+Fulmer · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Wow.

    In the day of paper thin magizines (anyone read 'Time' lately?), that's pretty hefty. Even if it is 1/2 size.

    What I didn't see was any mention of how much advertising there was (or will be).

    1. Re:192 Pages? by cmorgan47 · · Score: 4, Informative

      What I didn't see was any mention of how much advertising there was (or will be).

      not much at all.

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    2. Re:192 Pages? by SquadBoy · · Score: 2, Insightful

      /me looks at his copy.

      I count 8 ads. At least one of which is for a *very* cool company. There are also links for places to buy the stuff you need for the project in the articles themselves. But I consider that info rather than ads. It is worth every penny.

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    3. Re:192 Pages? by gekkotron · · Score: 0

      Vogue's got it beat

      If I remember right, one issue this fall was the largest monthly magazine ever printed, at >850 pages.
      Of course, <20 pages of that were content, and the rest ads, but what do you expect?

  9. Lucky, lucky, lucky... by mmaddox · · Score: 5, Funny

    You got yours before I got mine. I think our mailman's on a bender, again.

    (Still waiting)

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    1. Re:Lucky, lucky, lucky... by John3 · · Score: 1

      Waiting here as well... :-(

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    2. Re:Lucky, lucky, lucky... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      sigh.. ditto..

    3. Re:Lucky, lucky, lucky... by eggoeater · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Yup...me too. You'd think all the advance subscribers would get their mags at the same time since we were kind enough to give them our money without even looking at the final product.

    4. Re:Lucky, lucky, lucky... by Y2 · · Score: 1
      You got yours before I got mine. I think our mailman's on a bender, again.

      Bender is my mailman!

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    5. Re:Lucky, lucky, lucky... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You got yours before I got mine. I think our mailman's on a bender, again

      Now this types of shit, happens all the time
      You got to get yours but fool I gotta get mine

      -Snoop Doggy Dogg

    6. Re:Lucky, lucky, lucky... by lahvak · · Score: 1

      Your mailman is probably making a magnetic card reader right now.

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    7. Re:Lucky, lucky, lucky... by ayden · · Score: 1

      I subscribed back in mid January when the last article ran in Slashdot.

      Credit Order in the amount of $34.95.
      Your subscription term is for 13 Months.
      Your first Issue will be the 3/1/2005 Issue.

      You may have to wait a while. In the meantime, I picked up the first issue at Linux World this week.

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  10. Make by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Here I thought this was a HOWTO on configure, make && make install.

    I figured even RPM installs are better. For easiest use, deal with apt, urpmi, or synaptic.

    Wonder if the magazine was proposed by a gentoo user. Wait, even THEY use emerge!!!

    1. Re:Make by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are a fucking loser

  11. it's about time by bindir · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's about time there is a magazine out there that's more than just pages of video game ads and reviews. If only tomshardware had a featured spot in this magazine....Hopefully the magazine won't end up too technical and not have enough subscribers

    1. Re:it's about time by captaincucumber · · Score: 4, Informative

      I got mine in the mail yesterday...

      It's a nice mix of technical and not-technical. about 1/3rd of the stuff I saw looked like stuff I would have loved to have played with as a kid (i.e. if you're technical enough to handle model rocketry), and another 1/3rd is moderately technical. Another 1/3rd is product reviews and recommendations - like an explosive drain clog remover that uses CO2 cartriges.

      The actual projects have step-by-step instructions, so I assume you wouldn't need to be technical at all to do them. The list of items for some of them is pretty intense though, like the kite photography howto, makes me wish they offered kits.

      Overall I think it's an awesome magazine and I hope it lasts.

    2. Re:it's about time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Here's something I've always wondered...
      Who's Tom Shard?

  12. First Issue arrived yesterday... by L0stb0Y · · Score: 5, Informative

    The first issue arrived yesterday, and I really enjoyed reading it. It is different in scope than the likes of Nuts and Volts or Servo; but the magazine (or Mook as they are calling it: magazine + book) was well put together. They have a discussion group off their main website also, where it appears people are already discussing the building of the projects (read: tech support ;) Not that you'd need it, the articles are pretty clear....

    LosT

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  13. No Link? by OECD · · Score: 2, Informative

    No link to Popular Mechanics? They've had a web presence since '96 or so. Give them some love, editors.

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    1. Re:No Link? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The editors are probably just annoyed about this.

  14. Geekazine! by Stanistani · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I must buy this... even if I don't have so much time to do projects, at least I can see how folks are doing it nowadays...

    Yes, you can Google stuff, but nothing compares to the portability of dead trees.

    I can wallow in the memories of the projects (some now illegal, alas, if done today) I did as a young nerd (1964-1984).

  15. Will they publish deadtree-only content? by dmorin · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The lead time for publishing a paper magazine is atrocious when compared to webtime. Many web sites for regular print magazines will only run the articles after the print has gone out. What's the deal going to be with Make, do we know? By the time it shows up in my mailbox will I already have read the articles?

    1. Re:Will they publish deadtree-only content? by TrollBridge · · Score: 1

      Perhaps they're worried that, if they published on the web or some other means of electronic distribution, that it would be redistributed, or "pirated". Their revenue could be virtually castrated by the rampant copying of thier magazine

      But we all know that never happens on the Internet. Why do they insist on treating their customers like CRIMINALS!?!

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    2. Re:Will they publish deadtree-only content? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is O'Reilly we're talking about here. The people that routinely republish whole books on the web for free.

    3. Re:Will they publish deadtree-only content? by sylvandb · · Score: 1

      Perhaps they're worried that, if they published on the web or some other means of electronic distribution, that it would be redistributed, or "pirated". Their revenue could be virtually castrated by the rampant copying of thier magazine

      Which seems rather odd, considering that much if not all of their material (at least this first issue) CAME FROM other web articles.

      eg 5-in-1 cable and I'm sure I read the kite-digicam mod somewhere...

      sdb

  16. Bonus sneakpeek of... by GillBates0 · · Score: 4, Funny
    ...this issue's center spread.

    Future editions are expected to feature many such real life pictures of geeks in action, potentially attracting thousands of subscribers.

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    1. Re:Bonus sneakpeek of... by Otter · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure why multiple people are linking that picture today, but this is the real gem from that photo session.

    2. Re:Bonus sneakpeek of... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      (I'm the poster of the comment above). I posted this picture in another thread too. Can't get enough of it...but you're right your picture's a gem too. I like mine because of the expression of the left most guy.

      BTW, no offense against these fellows in the picture...I'm probably geekier looking (insert stereotypes here) than all of them.

    3. Re:Bonus sneakpeek of... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's just so tragic.

      This picture will be featured in Microsoft's next campaign. Caption: "This is you on Linux."

    4. Re:Bonus sneakpeek of... by Ravadill · · Score: 1

      You know renaming a bitmap file to .jpg dosn't actually make it a real jpeg file

    5. Re:Bonus sneakpeek of... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Geekier, are you sure? I didn't notice the guy with the beard until my second look at the picture.

  17. LinuxWorld by Kancer · · Score: 2, Informative

    These guys were at linuxworld Boston yesterday. Pretty cool stuff, I was holding this in my hand yesterday. Kinda looked like an Ikea catalogue.

    One more link from their company was http://www.makingthings.com/

    1. Re:LinuxWorld by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Why not roll your own:

      http://aid.interaccess.org/drupal/

  18. i'm stoked by ruxxell · · Score: 2, Funny

    yeah!
    i've been waiting for this badboy for a while now. not that i'm actually adept at tinkering, but that's the whole idea, i guess, right?

    for the meantime, i've been reading nuts and volts magazine while running the elliptical thing at the gym. its so funny, because everyone else is reading fitness magazines, and i'm lookin at inductor related schematics. wtf?

    yeah i went to RPI.

    --
    "when the sun sets on the ghetto, all the broken stuff gets cold"
  19. Subscription Promotional Codes by Krieger · · Score: 2, Informative

    So the subscribe page has a section for promotional codes. Which makes me wonder if people have seen them. For $35, it's probably worth it, but if there are promotional codes... why not use them.

    1. Re:Subscription Promotional Codes by mcgrue · · Score: 3, Informative

      A quick google found "M5ZXML" for a free issue. I used it and was informed it worked. YMMV.

    2. Re:Subscription Promotional Codes by dr_canak · · Score: 2, Informative

      Thx for the promo code,

      I would just add that the promo code gives you a free edition above and beyond the 4 you get with a regular subscription. So it is a free issue, but it requires a full subscription, in which case you get five issues instead of four.

      but useful info nonetheless, thx.
      jeff

    3. Re:Subscription Promotional Codes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It worked like a charm for me. Thanks, man!

  20. One of my treasured possessions. . . by kfg · · Score: 5, Interesting

    is a 1968 Popular Mechanics DIY encyclopedia. Me mum bought it for me when I were a wee lad. I got lucky on mums. When I started taking everything in the house apart to see how it worked; and if I could put it together again, better, she not only encouraged me, but went so far as convert the living room of our home into a workshop (American urban colonial neighborhood. No garage. I can, literally, shake hands with my neighbor without either one of us leaving our bedrooms).

    She didn't even blink when she came home one day to find I had built a formula car in the dining room because there wasn't room for it in the living room workshop. We all just lived in the kitchen for awhile, which is where we spent most of our family time anyway.

    More recently she's actually the one who clued me in to the whole dorkbot thingy (I'm a fairly solitary tinkerer, although testing new vehicles does seem to draw something of a crowd at times).

    So what the hell happened to PM anyway?

    Sounds like I'll have to at least check out Make, but I fear I'll be disappointed in it. . .only coming out quarterly.

    KFG

    1. Re:One of my treasured possessions. . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, GNU only releases a new version of make about once every year, and even then, it's only a minor release change. However, I don't think you would be disappointed at all if you were to check out make, as the latest version would always be retrieved from CVS when you do.

  21. Brick and Mortar? by ArticleI · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Does anyone know what brick and mortar retailers will be carrying Make? The local Barnes and Noble hasn't even heard of it.

    1. Re:Brick and Mortar? by SmokeHalo · · Score: 2, Interesting
      There was a post on the magazine website that said:
      It will also be available in coming months through most of the same online and brick-and-mortar retailers that carry O'Reilly's other publications, plus select newsstand outlets. We'll be posting more about that as it becomes available at those places. But the subscribers will be getting it sooner.
      --
      I'm not good in groups. It's difficult to work in a group when you're omnipotent. - Q
    2. Re:Brick and Mortar? by rsklnkv · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I work at Powells Books in Oregon and we will stock it. Both the Portland (the Powells Techinical Store) and Beaverton stores will carry it.

      --
      _____ "If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear." -- Orwell
    3. Re:Brick and Mortar? by __aafutm5472 · · Score: 1

      Oooh, at the Beaverton one, too eh? Oh good, that's on my way home from work...

    4. Re:Brick and Mortar? by SquadBoy · · Score: 1

      Nice. Now I know where to get copies for overseas friends. Will they be on the website?

      Somedays I *hate* living in Albany.

      --

      Cypherpunks: Civil Liberty Through Complex Mathematics. Those who live by the sword die by the arrow.
    5. Re:Brick and Mortar? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I know it is unavailable to UK bookstores since my O'Reilly rep teased me with a look at it, only to tell me I couldn't stock it. If I could I would, it is more book than mag (v. little advertising).

      (AC from work)

  22. I'll guess is how it's written... by niteice · · Score: 3, Funny

    tar xzvf make-magazine-1.1.tar.gz
    cd make-magazine-1.1
    ./configure --pages=192
    make articles
    make magazine

    --
    ROMANES EUNT DOMUS
    1. Re:I'll guess is how it's written... by sidc · · Score: 1

      And for the subscriber...
      ./configure --pages=192 --install-prefix=$HOME
      make install
      so that it gets to your home instead of going to the roots home!

    2. Re:I'll guess is how it's written... by niteice · · Score: 1

      Of course! We don't want the publisher getting all the issues!

      --
      ROMANES EUNT DOMUS
  23. getting the obvious joke out of the way by greenguy · · Score: 1

    I'll wait for the follow-up, Make Install.

    --
    What if I do the same thing, and I do get different results?
  24. Nah... by game+kid · · Score: 1

    ...I still prefer pressing the triangle arrow or pressing F5, thank you. Doing configure then make is a lot cheaper, though.

    --
    You can hold down the "B" button for continuous firing.
  25. Would it be out of line by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    to ask for a .torrent?

  26. Current issue with subscription? by Blackwulf · · Score: 1

    Does anyone know if you get this first issue if you go ahead and get a subscription today? I've never heard about it until today and I'm interested in some of the stuff in this issue. I can call the number when I'm off work, but if anyone knows the answer before then that'd be great...

    1. Re:Current issue with subscription? by FuzzzyLogik · · Score: 1

      I ordered mine 2 days ago. they said my first issue will be shipped shortly. meaning that the first issue is likely what you would get.. unless you order within a week or so of the second issue coming out then that might be the one you get first.. just a guess, but call to make sure

    2. Re:Current issue with subscription? by enigmathegreat · · Score: 1

      I just subscribed today, and they said my first issue would be shipped shortly (so I assume I'll get the first one, since there aren't any others to ship).

    3. Re:Current issue with subscription? by Brian+Brian · · Score: 1

      I subscribe back in December. They sent me an email saying my first issue would be this summer. Man I am pissed!!!!!

  27. make magazine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    make: *** No rule to make target `magazine'. Stop.

  28. Finally by eno2001 · · Score: 1

    God I miss the days when being into technology meant actually building and designing your own gear. I still do it to an extent, but some of it has moved into the "virtual" arena. I wonder how many Slashdot readers actually ever made their own crystal radios as kids? Or how many of us "modded" our cheapo TVs and stereos back in the late 70s and early 80s to give us pseudo stereo and then eventually real stereo TV? Or... how many of us handwired and built our own SIMM memory expanders for our Amigas and Atari STs? Those are all things I did, but a lot of times I feel like I'm one of the only ones here who ever did this kind of thing. Kind of like my old theory that musicians make the best computer tech folks.

    --
    -"...bad old ideas look confusingly fresh when they are packaged as technology" - Jaron Lanier (Digital Maoism on Edge.o
    1. Re:Finally by FuzzzyLogik · · Score: 1

      I grew up a bit late for that kinda stuff.. born in 1982 meant not being able to experience that kind of thing. I jumped on this magazine when i seen it was being published. I absolutely cannot wait to get this in my hands. I'm tempted to run to the nearest store to see if they're carrying it. I put my subscription in but i am in dire need of some projects to do, something different, something new. Programming is great but I want something new to do. I come here hoping to hear stories about people talking about the fun things they did when they tried projects like you said. I used to watch TechTV all the time, ya i know blah blah blah, but now there's only one show i watch on there and it's called Icons. It brings me back to the days of NES, and the Tandy 1000, the old computers and the old computer games i used to play. WHen games were FUN and inventive. All games are these days are pretty garbage. I care barely play them (i'm 22) without putting the mouse or controller down after an hour because the learning curve or the entertainment value is so limited. I want my old Lucas Arts adventure games back, I want my old Mario titles back, I want all those fun crappy graphics games back that had great stories and easy controls and fun game play. It's similar to what you feel about making your own things. It's a nasalgia feeling, and i love it.

    2. Re:Finally by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      May I suggest some spelling classes or perhaps a few hours with the dictionary to get rid of that 'nasalgia' feeling?
      I don't think you need to play any more video games until you get your spelling and grammar back on track, Mr. "I'm 22" (and obviously illiterate).

      P.S. - It's nostalgia.

    3. Re:Finally by eno2001 · · Score: 1

      Back when I was a kid, I used to love to read Radio Electronic and Popular Electronics magazines from cover to cover. I'd read all the project ideas, I'd look over the ads, everything. I remembered seeing the Altair ads in my really old back issues and dreamt of the day when I could have my own computer. I built my own Timex-Sinclair ZX81 computer about the time you were born. It was all great fun. Unfortunately it seems that as electronics have become more and more minaturized, DIY has become somewhat harder. However, with the advent of PICs, Stix and SBDs, I think that computing and hobbyist electronics can be joined together. The neatest thing about DIY is that you can always put yourself ahead of the curve by having stuff that most people won't have at home for another five to ten years. :)

      --
      -"...bad old ideas look confusingly fresh when they are packaged as technology" - Jaron Lanier (Digital Maoism on Edge.o
    4. Re:Finally by jwcorder · · Score: 2, Funny

      Those are all things I did, but a lot of times I feel like I'm one of the only ones here who ever did this kind of thing.

      Sorry, I was busy getting laid....

      --
      http://jayceecorder.blogspot.com
    5. Re:Finally by eno2001 · · Score: 1

      Funny you should mention that. So was I! :) "Losing it" at 16 is a lot of fun.

      --
      -"...bad old ideas look confusingly fresh when they are packaged as technology" - Jaron Lanier (Digital Maoism on Edge.o
    6. Re:Finally by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Shame the first time was the last time, huh?

      Happy Sixtieth!
      :)

    7. Re:Finally by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You want to feel what it's like to do this sort of thing? Become a TV Broadcast Engineer in Rural America. Old TV transmitters from the early 70's that have to be coddled and kept on the air ... replace all the old capacitors that are getting stale ... replace all the old pots that are getting sticky and noisy ... and then get it all working and back on the air! Many of these are being replaced with solid state technology, so get on the bandwagon soon. I had my stint 12 years ago, and I still reflect on that as the formulative years of my life. This magazine is for people who missed that sort of experience.

  29. Howtoons by t482 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Are these the same as http://www.howtoons.org/?

    1. Re:Howtoons by prockcore · · Score: 1

      Are these the same as http://www.howtoons.org/?


      Yeah, the one about building a little motor is actually in the first issue of Make

    2. Re:Howtoons by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Over 10 years ago, my boss at the time came back from a developer's conference with one of these motors. He was showing it around to everyone in the building. He was so pleased that he had built it himself and it worked the first time. It kinda limped along around 2 rotations per second.

      When he brought it down the the shop where I was working at the time he passed it around to each of is. I looked it over and then pulled a magnet off the filing cabinet, a D-cell from my flashlight, a length of teflon coated wire-wrap wire, a rubber band, 2 paperclips, some super glue and proceeded to build a similar motor in maybe 10 minutes. When finished it spun so fast the coil was just a blur and from time to time it gyrated wildly untill it slowed down enough to stabilize.

      I handed it to him and he walked out in silence. Later I felt bad about it, after all he had done his best. Last year I was installing network equipment near his office and he spotted me and called me in. We talked for a few minutes and I noticed a familiar object on his windowsill. He saw my gaze and laughed as he picked up the motor I had built. He put the coil back into the paper clip holders and the motor started right up.

      I told him that I felt bad about showing him up that day but he wasn't bothered a bit. He said it reminded him that there's always a better way to do something and if you keep your eyes and mind open you'll either find it yourself or meet someone who will. He'll probably go far.

      Even though the motor idea isn't new, it's still neat. I'm getting a subscription for my geeky nephew as well as myself. ;-)

    3. Re:Howtoons by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      OMG howtoons is the coolest. I wish I had a little brother to do these projects with :(
      Cus god forbid I bring a child into this world, who will steal my bandwidth, get exclusive rights to my girls boobies and be smarter than me by the age of 12.

  30. Why not? by game+kid · · Score: 1

    I haven't RTFMagazine but my rule of thumb is when it says "Save teh $50!!1!" and we don't see the price, the product costs 10 times more. Why not? you ask? Because, from what I've seen, promotional codes==magazine versions of spam and adware (with a bit more legality).

    --
    You can hold down the "B" button for continuous firing.
    1. Re:Why not? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      1. You know the price.
      2. The code is for a free issue/book.
      3. This is ORA. If that ain't good/safe enough for you you have *not* been pay8ing attention. Of course given your nick/number you might not know who ORA are in which case you should just STFU.

  31. SERVO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This looks like a great addition to www.servomagazine.com

  32. hmm.. by jspectre · · Score: 1

    i got mine last week, and no envelope.

    damn!

    --

    abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz

    1. Re:hmm.. by Juggle · · Score: 1

      Got mine today, but no envelope. Maybe my mailman is a closet hacker too ;)

      Still haven't had time to digest it but my quick flip has me pretty excited about spending some time digesting it soon.

      --
      --- Juggle juggle@hitesman.com
  33. I'm impressed with it by Randy+Rathbun · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Nothing really too complicated in there, and it looks like you can build most of the stuff they present with just a few hours of work. The DIY stuff is pretty darn simple, actually.

    When I was lookin' through my issue last night I kind of skimmed by the stuff they showed OS X doing - but when I went back and read it this morning, it actually looked like some cool stuff.

    I do hope that in the future they have some actual electronics projects in there of some sort. I am sure they will. This time around it looked to be mainly taking what is already out there and showing different ways of putting said gizmo to use, or fixing it.

    Overall though, I have to give Make a big thumbs up. It looks nice, is fun to read, and is gonna be really useful.

    BTW, as I was typing this, I kept trying to come up with what Make reminds me of. I think I got it.... a paper version of The Screen Savers when the show did not suck.

  34. Can they keep the pace in the future? by my_myself_i · · Score: 1

    With providing such a large premier issue, does anyone think they will be able to provide as much content in future editions? If they could, it would be a great magazine, but I kind of doubt that they will be able to keep it up. Time will tell ...

    1. Re:Can they keep the pace in the future? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah they will be able to keep pace. I myself can't even keep up with the amount of books that are related to robotics which in itself is a relatively narrow field. Imagine opening it up to almost anything related to nerds. Im just starting to drool.

    2. Re:Can they keep the pace in the future? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      This large magazine is not an anomally, it is actually something that the publishers at O'Reilly are calling a "mook". The following quote was taken from their site:

      "MAKE is a new hybrid magazine/book ("mook") published quarterly by O'Reilly."

      So, I would assume that all of the magazines should be about the same size. That is one of the reasons for the higher than average price for a quarterly published magazine.

      Hope that helps.

    3. Re:Can they keep the pace in the future? by Junks+Jerzey · · Score: 1

      With providing such a large premier issue, does anyone think they will be able to provide as much content in future editions?

      Oooh, classic Slashdot negativity there! There are thousands and thousands of possible DIY projects out there. The Make team doesn't have to come up with new stuff, just track down what other people have already done.

  35. I'll get it by ein2many · · Score: 2, Funny

    For the pictures. Not like Playboy, for the articals

  36. Just use a PDA with a wireless adapter... by Torqued · · Score: 1

    that's what I do! :)

  37. WTF? Make up your mind! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    It's about time there is a magazine out there that's more than just pages of video game ads and reviews...Hopefully the magazine won't end up too technical...

    I can remember two types of computer magazines from days of yore: British ones, which were 99% advertisements and 1% game reviews (though often quite funny); and American magazines, such as Byte, which were very technical and a pleasure to read.

    What is you actually want?

    1. Re:WTF? Make up your mind! by Shturmovik · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You're probably going to be modded troll or flamebait, but for what it's worth I agree and remember exactly the kind of thing you're talking about.

      There was a review of 'Warcraft 2', back when it was first released, in one of those 6" thick English PC mags. It was hyserically funny, and I bought the game on the strength of it, so I guess it did the job intended. But I had to wade through more than 100 pages of ads just to get to the contents page, letalone the review!

      And then there was a story from a 'Byte' columnist (I think it was) about the time he and his college roomie built a poor-man's cleanroom in his mom's bathroom and salvaged junked HDDs for fun and profit.

      I always got the impression that the English writers were a little bit out of their depth once the task at hand was anything more than, say, tweaking their autoexec.bat and congig.sys files to free up some extra memory for their games, whereas the American magazine writers were usually grizzled old greybeards, who cut their teeth designing ICs at Motorola, or laying out PCBs at TI.

      Not a trolll, not a dig at British technical know-how! Just my own memories anyway.

    2. Re:WTF? Make up your mind! by bil · · Score: 1

      The market in Britain fo a technical computing magazine is so small to be almost below the profitability level due to a much smaller population and no real native computer industry, so to survive they need have a wider market appeal then just geeks and techies and that inevitably means less technical articles and more games reviews

      I think its begining to change with Linux and a generation that has grown up around computers, but many publications that can live happily in the US market would be bust within months here.

      --
      Where you stand depends on where you sit...
  38. Can you get it without subscribing? by teneighty · · Score: 1

    This magazine sounds really cool, but I'd like to actually read an issue before deciding whether or not I want to subscribe.

    Does anyone know if you can get it in any stories, or is it subscription only? From reading the site, it sounds like it is subscription only, but I'm hoping that's not the case.

    PS: Is it just me, or do most of the projects they covered sound awfully lot like slashdot stories we've had in the last 6 months?

    1. Re:Can you get it without subscribing? by Slynkie · · Score: 3, Informative

      From the FAQ:

      When will it be out?
      The premier issue of Make should ship to subscribers and single-issue purchasers in mid-February and hit bookstores and newsstands at the end of February.

  39. Reminds me of "Wired" in the late '90s? by Infonaut · · Score: 3, Funny
    At one point the mag was so thick that police officers in major cities were subscribing, just so they could use 'em as hillbilly personal armor. I used to use my back issues to reinforce deterioriating sections of the basement walls in my house.

    But seriously, those things were huge. It was a giddy era. Negroponte was waxing philosophical about digital this and digital that. Articles about crazy new technology abounded. Everyone walked around wearing shades because the future was so damned bright.

    The future just ain't what it used to be, eh?

    --
    Read the EFF's Fair Use FAQ
    1. Re:Reminds me of "Wired" in the late '90s? by LarsWestergren · · Score: 1

      Yeah...I'm moving, and found some old magazines, including an old issue of Wired. A big smiley on the cover with a flower in its mouth. The header: "The economy is booming, the environment is getting better, we are living longer and happier lives. Ahead of us is an era of unparallelled prosperity and happiness. You got a problem with that?"
      (Or something to that effect.)

      Hehe.... I thought it was silly even when I bought it. Wish I could have the writers here so I could really rub their noses in it. :-)

      --

      Being bitter is drinking poison and hoping someone else will die

    2. Re:Reminds me of "Wired" in the late '90s? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I gave up on wired when they started running 10-page ads for the products and companies they were "informing" us about in the adjacent "journalistic" pieces..

    3. Re:Reminds me of "Wired" in the late '90s? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The best one was that article Dan Ashcroft wrote for Wired about the Rise of the Idiots. Or was that SugarApe? I forget.

    4. Re:Reminds me of "Wired" in the late '90s? by NaDrew · · Score: 1
      Wish I could have the writers here so I could really rub their noses in it. :-)
      Check the janitor's closet; they're probably taking a break before emptying your trash can.
      --
      Vista:XPSP2::ME:98SE
  40. subscription process by enrico_suave · · Score: 1

    Did anyone else find the credit card process/flow a little unusual for subscribing?

    It asks for your CC info, then gives you a "you've been invoiced" page where you can click on another link to "pay" with your credit card (again?!) but this time you really seem to submit it. Bizarre.

    e.

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    1. Re:subscription process by deadturtle · · Score: 1

      Actually looks like they are missing some verification steps too. I forgot to include my phone number the first time, and clicking submit jut bumped me to #top. Being 1/2 blind and with no wonderful red !!HERE!! to tell me what was wrong i called the phone number, which had about 0 wait time. Defiantly felt a little amateur for a published subscription.

  41. damn by Tibor+the+Hun · · Score: 1

    i just want to run up to those guys with some clippers and give them nice, sharp haircuts.

    --
    If you don't know what AltaVista is (was), get off my lawn.
  42. Also, Xeni is a Fugly Dyke by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    n/t

  43. $14.99 Cover price? by bburrill · · Score: 0, Troll

    Bit to pricy for me.

  44. Support 2600 by n3m0s · · Score: 1

    As I hope everyone knows, the zine 2600 has been around for a long time, and focuses on all things hackish. It's a great magazine, and deserves the support of the community.

    1. Re:Support 2600 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      actually recent 2600 issues suck really bad. if i want to read a politirant rag with a few tips on how to bypass highschool websense filters, yeah, 2600 is great, otherwise 2600 == teh suck.

  45. Doubtful by SuperKendall · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Honestly, did you read how to take pictures from a kite before, or AFTER you read about Make reporting on the same thing?

    Sure you could probably get similar info on most of the projects anywhere. But will you? The answer is probably no. Doallars to donuts that by the time the next Make rolls around you will have read nothing of any of the projects they feature, even though you could look them up. I know because I am the same way!

    The purpose of the magazine is partly an aggregator of interesting projects, but also partly a motivator to try and be more than just a consumer again and start exploring the possibility of creation that so many of us enjoyed when we were kids. I mean, one of the projects is a home-built mag-stripe reader, how cool is that? Well I think it's cool.

    Also I would say that the general level of presentaiton is very good and possibly more clear than a lot of articles you are going to find online. They really did go to a lot of work to make sure than even someone with trepidations can do a lot of the projects, they are so clear.

    --
    "There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
    1. Re:Doubtful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >> Honestly, did you read how to take pictures from a kite before, or AFTER you read about Make reporting on the same thing? /. has an article on this at least once every year.

    2. Re:Doubtful by dmorin · · Score: 1
      Honestly, did you read how to take pictures from a kite before, or AFTER you read about Make reporting on the same thing?

      Actually yes, since I follow Engadget's RSS feed. That was how I knew where to go get that story, even though the reviewer said that googling for it did not turn it up.

      I don't deny the coolness factor. I love the idea. I'm just saying that if it's nothing more than a print version of stories that have already been circulating for 3 months, then there's no real reason for me to buy it. There needs to be some value above and beyond what was already out there, and simply aggregating it all under one cover ain't gonna do it for me.

    3. Re:Doubtful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, there have been articles here at slashdot some time ago about it.

    4. Re:Doubtful by SquadBoy · · Score: 1

      Then you are not the target audience. Yes most if not all of the stuff is online. But many of us still enjoy sitting down with a dead tree copy. To me it is one of lifes great pleasures.
      And oh yeah. I can read this on the train. Those 2 or 3 hours of being more entertained than I would have been otherwise seem like a good deal to me.

      --

      Cypherpunks: Civil Liberty Through Complex Mathematics. Those who live by the sword die by the arrow.
  46. RTFM by droopycom · · Score: 1

    So now RTFM stands for ...

    Read The F'ing Make !!

  47. Well... by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    You lost me after the "built own crystal radio" but I managed to catch up at "built own SIMM memory expanders".

    Actually my favorite mod that I did when I was younger was to remove the keyboard from an Atari ST (built into the main computer), slap a pizza-box around it for a backing, then use a joystick cord to connect the keyboard back to the PC. It held up for years like that and was a lot more convienient. It was not very complex but it had a lot of value.

    I subscribed to Make because I've been yearing to get back into trying out small hardware projects, and it has not dissapointed.

    --
    "There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
    1. Re:Well... by eno2001 · · Score: 1

      Cool. I remember dying to find a used Mega ST with the detachable KB. I considered doing the same as you, but I never got around to it. There is definitely something nice about having a separate KB from the rest of the computer. What I was always entertained by was the fact that the adults around me at the time thought I was "breaking" stuff. But when they saw what I managed to accomplish, they stopped complaining. :)

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      -"...bad old ideas look confusingly fresh when they are packaged as technology" - Jaron Lanier (Digital Maoism on Edge.o
  48. If you throw it out by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    is that a Make Clean?

  49. Not very fair... by SuperKendall · · Score: 4, Informative

    Actually #2 is an assignment - they don't give you the answer, just ask for people to submit solutions.

    What's arong with a cheap stabilizer? Let's you run along with video cameras just about as well as pro stabilizers, and is dead-simmple to build.

    But they have lots, and lots of other stuff as well. Other more interesting projetcs like a home-made mag-stripe reader to see what is on your cards. Or tips on proper soldiering/desoldiering (to prepare you for future projects no doubt). Or even the kite thing which was interesting.

    They also do a very good job with project descriptions, to the point where probably almost anyone could do any of the projects.

    It is 195 pages after all, and has a wide range of material. At only $8.75 and issue I think it's a pretty good deal.

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  50. Rather surprized no-one has mentioned the railgun by SuperKendall · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Another project tucked away somewhere in there is a super-simple railgun involving just a handful of steel balls, a few magnets, and a wodden ruler.

    A cheap way to arm your home-built patrol Death-Bot.

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  51. So basically... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    OSX

    ...ok, I'll stop now.

    :)

  52. Issue #2 will have an article . . . by StefanJ · · Score: 1

    . . . on how to walk on dirt.

    I know this sounds kind of scary, but it is pretty easy, and fairly safe once you have the right equipment.

    Stefan

  53. EXCLUSIVE! A peek at Issue #2's Table of Contents by StefanJ · · Score: 2, Funny

    * Grass-trimming Hybrid from Hell: Hacking together your Roomba and a riding mower.

    * SpaceShip Two plans.

    * Wood: Where does it come from?

    * Trap Doors 101

    * The wacky world of George Foreman Grill hacking.

    * The first article of a five part series on DIY genetic engineering, describing how to modify your colonic bacteria so that your farts smell like orange potpourri. (The issue with part five, "Catgirls," is predicted to be best-seller.)

  54. much better than ReadyMade by jaythree9 · · Score: 1

    I like that this mag spends more time telling you how to make these things instead of pimping pre-made products. Although Ready Made's layout design and diagrams are real pretty, they read more like a fashion mag when compared to this.

  55. Sounds good but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What I want to know, from somebody who has read the first issue, is... how much of the content can already be Googled?

  56. So 2 minutes ago... by sjs132 · · Score: 0, Troll

    When I got the invite to join, I looked at the article list, but it looked just like projects I'd seen mentioned on slashdot and the web... so they put it on paper and kill trees now..

    I'll pass, I'm so tired of pulp publishing everthing that you can get online with a little looking... Thats why I cancled my WIRED sub... and I HAVENT MISSED IT. Actually, I've taken the money from Wired and dropped it onto Lapidary Journal... At least it gets me outside looking for rocks and things to do with them... good exercise for the unhealthy geek I am.

    Just my .02 worth...

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  57. Subscribing does NOT save you 58% off cover price by SpeedyPenguin · · Score: 1
    The subscription information provided on their web site shows some bad math:
    Cover Price: $14.95
    Subscription: $34.95
    You Save: $24.85 (58%)
    Issues: 4/Quarterly
    I think they got that reversed. A subscription costs 58% of the cover price. You only save 42%.
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  58. Tux Magazine gone by ylikone · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I had purchased a subscription to the new Tux Magazine (first issue was supposed to come out this month) and got a letter in the mail last week saying they had not gotten enough subscriptions to make it viable, so it would be pdf only. Anyway, they refunded my money. But really, I don't care about reading pdf versions of magazines... there is a reason I like the dead-tree kind, you can lie back in bed while you read them.

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  59. MOD UP: FREE SUBSCRIPTION CODE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    one free year subscription when you use the offer code M5ZMNSA

    Oddly enough they still want your credit card information (one per person) but that code entitles you to one free year.

    1. Re:MOD UP: FREE SUBSCRIPTION CODE by mjc_w · · Score: 1

      I tried it, up to the point where I would actually have to subscribe, and the $34. was still there as the cost.

      I guess too many people used it and they stopped it.

      Too bad, too bad, too bad.

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  60. I think the value is clarity... by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    Well, props for actually seeing that before as I figured you had just googled for it! I apologize for that.

    However I think the added value you see is the clarity and editing of the instructions. There are alot of cool things on the web but many of them are sort of half complete, or lacking in detail you would wish for. The value Make supplies is editing and filling out an project to make sure it's complete and you can really do what they put forth without a ??? step somewhere in the middle that you have no idea how to do.

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  61. What's exciting about it?! by neutron2000 · · Score: 0, Troll

    I still don't get it--I mean, it's nice that there's a magazine, but didn't I read some pretty grandiose claims that it's the only magazine that has ever addressed this market segment? Doesn't anybody read Circuit Cellar? Remember Micro Cornucopia?! CC has been around since I was a wee lad (anybody remember the multiprocessor 8051 system for drawing Mandelbrots? Let's make a Beowulf outta 'em!)

    1. Re:What's exciting about it?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Circuit Cellar has consistently distanced themselves from "hacks" in recent years. The magazine is basically a soapbox for whatever Steve Ciarcia feels is currently "right" - maybe the poor media about "hackers" is too much for Steve to handle. Make seems to be a little more subversive and controversial. Hopefully it will stay that way!

  62. sounds like by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    sounds like a cross between FireFox (the 1970s one), Whole Earth Access, and 2600. cool!

  63. Up next: APT magazine by IdahoEv · · Score: 1

    APT magazine will teach the home technology geek how to quickly and easily order pre-assembled electronics via the internet with only a few clicks.

    Thus saving, of course, the endless time one would waste building it oneself: gone are the days of endless hours wasted and headaches endured trying to debug your rickety homemade photography kite or videocam image stabilizer.

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    1. Re:Up next: APT magazine by JabberWokky · · Score: 1
      Well, if that's the case, APT Magazine already exists: See?

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  64. The good old days weren't by John+Jorsett · · Score: 1

    Yeah, I built a crystal radio as a kid. Handbuilt amateur radio equipment. Wirewrapped my first CP/M computer on an S-100 board blank. I may have learned a lot, but by contrast to today, those days sucked the big one. I'd much rather be solving problems at the higher levels than spending a week's evenings wirewrapping a computer. Right now I'm combining a laser range finder with a computer and a GPS receiver to calculate the coordinates of what's being lased. Thank God I can just buy a microcontroller, a GPS receiver module (Trimble's Lassen SQ - postage stamp size. Very cool) and the laser range finder, and not have to build each of those items, even assuming I was capable of it. Integration of higher level components is where it's at, IMO. And Field Programmable Gate Arrays! Don't get me started on the blessings conferred by programmable hardware!

    1. Re:The good old days weren't by eno2001 · · Score: 1

      It's a toss up. These days you can do things that you couldn't easily do in the past. But you have a lot less fun getting there. So if you miss the fun had in actualy doing things the "hard way", today's aproaches leave a lot to be desired. But there building your own laser in the past was not something that just anyone could do. So having today's laser LEDs available at a low cost is also a benefit.

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  65. praise by hhawk · · Score: 1

    i've been a huge fan of BoingBoing since the late 80's and of John since he was an edtior at Wired and gave me my first break writing a cover story...

    Anyway, I wish them best of luck!

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  66. legal issues by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    lets hope they don't run out of publishable projects. what about gray-area projects such as reversing CSS of DVD to play a movie on Linux? It's a neat project and right for the target demographics, but not publishable.
    That may limit the magazine to vanilla projects like back-yard trains and airial photos.
    I'll forward to getting it if it comes to Ireland, though.

  67. In other news... by andrewweb · · Score: 1

    Today, a variety of lawsuits were filed against 'Make' magazine under the guise of the DMCA etc..

    Give it time people..... :PP

    Seriously though, looks like a good read.

  68. Wired?? Bah! by sczimme · · Score: 1


    At one point the mag was so thick that police officers in major cities were subscribing, just so they could use 'em as hillbilly personal armor. I used to use my back issues to reinforce deterioriating sections of the basement walls in my house.

    Wired was for pansies. Real men used the Computer Shopper. That was personal armor, and you coud have built your basement with back issues. Kids today...

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  69. 1970s Whole Earth Catalog by peter303 · · Score: 1

    Reminds me a bit of the Whole Earth Catalog with a strong do-it-yourself slant. Interestingly they both come out of the same [Marin] county and the WEC was a and early promoter of bboards and PCs.

  70. Re:Rather surprized no-one has mentioned the railg by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 1
    My son just did one of these for a science project. SciToys has a good description for one, and source for the neodymium-iron-boron magnets.
    BEWARE! These magnets are exceedingly strong and fragile. They WILL jump out of your hand and smack together, often cracking one. Due to this fragility, there is an upper limit on number of magnets and speed. Too many, and the ball bearings will go too fast and crack the magnets.

    To placate the handwringers, we called it a 'Linear Accelerator' instead of a railgun or Gauss Rifle. Can't have those dangerous 'weapons' in school.

  71. Make did warn about that... by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    Make did warn about the magnets being fragile, and there being a limit on how powerful a device you could build because of it.

    It sounds really cool though, I'll have to try building one.

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