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It's your lucky day. The browser you're looking for can be found (link to IE).

Some of us aren't as lucky. IE doesn't run on every computer being made today, especially more powerful workstations. (Support for Alpha and other non-Mac RISC machines was dropped back in the NT4 days.) See my previous comment #192 to see the real cost of running IE.

While everyone continues to use software that is in it's 19th beta stage, buggy and unfinished, I can use a very stable commercial product (say, IE for example) that performs well

Not if your computer doesn't have an x86 processor. In that case, you'd need an emulator plus a copy of Windows (USD $320). Even if you are running on an x86, you need a virtualizer ($300) plus Windows. Isn't $600 a bit steep for a web browser? Might as well just pay for Opera.

What's that rule in software development? Something like, adding more members to a project team makes the project later. Or to put it another way, too many cooks in the kitchen...

Spoil the broth. See also The Mythical Man-Month.

I think that the user-based ad system is one of the most interesting ideas I've heard in a long time. It completly changes the dynamic of the advertising relationship.

I am one of those weirdos who actually goes out of his way to experience certain forms of advertising, while avoiding others. I frequently spend decent amounts of my time howling with laughter and amazement at ads I view on adcritic.com, while at the same time most of the TV I watch is taped, so I can skip over the same annoying ad that gets shown 6 times during a one hour prime time show.

How does this relate to banner ads this article and comment by Hemos? well, I like choice, be it what sort of products I am exposed to, or what sort of advertising I like...what if there was a way to give a hint of some fancy high end flash type ad through a little banner? I might click on it, if I think the art looks really cool...if I saw ads that categorized accordning to some preferences I had specified, or were geographically targeted (upcoming conserts,movie times...whatever) I would surely be more likely to click-through.

All in all, I have to say I was very impressed, and quite amused with the honest and interesting ideas proposed here.

Going on means going far
Going far means returning

Haven't you seen the advertisement for the nano-driven Playstation 9?!? It's got to be the coolest thing ever. And it's driven by nanites.
Check it out at:http://www.adcritic.com/content/sony-playstatio n2-the-beginning.html

a site like adcritic that has all of my favorite TV shows -- archived.

Yes, I know TV networks and studios won't initially go for this, but it sure beats begging your friends for the episode of "Survivor" that you missed and forgot to tape.

Solve the California power (for us anyway) - convince them to secede along with Quebec!

Solve the California power (for us anyway) - convince them to secede along with Quebec!

If you would like to see the ads again, go to

http://www.adcritic.com

And the truly lazy, here are some of the ads that stand out - links go to the QuickTime versions... sorry, it was either that or Windows Media Player format :(

E-Trade: Dot-Com Graveyard
Budweiser: What Are You Doing?
EDS: Running With The Squirrels

Enjoy.

If you would like to see the ads again, go to

http://www.adcritic.com

And the truly lazy, here are some of the ads that stand out - links go to the QuickTime versions... sorry, it was either that or Windows Media Player format :(

E-Trade: Dot-Com Graveyard
Budweiser: What Are You Doing?
EDS: Running With The Squirrels

Enjoy.

If you would like to see the ads again, go to

http://www.adcritic.com

And the truly lazy, here are some of the ads that stand out - links go to the QuickTime versions... sorry, it was either that or Windows Media Player format :(

E-Trade: Dot-Com Graveyard
Budweiser: What Are You Doing?
EDS: Running With The Squirrels

Enjoy.

If you would like to see the ads again, go to

http://www.adcritic.com

And the truly lazy, here are some of the ads that stand out - links go to the QuickTime versions... sorry, it was either that or Windows Media Player format :(

E-Trade: Dot-Com Graveyard
Budweiser: What Are You Doing?
EDS: Running With The Squirrels

Enjoy.

Goto Adcritic and look it up. Was it cat herders?

I caught the pamplona running with the bulls/squirrels ad about halfway through (gotta tape the 'bowl so you don't miss the commercials during potty-breaks) and thought it looked funny. Then I realized it was the sequel to the cattle/cat drive spot and wasn't as impressed once I realized it was EDS.

My all-time favorite still has to be the e-trade (or whatever) one last year with the guys in the garage with the monkey (we just wasted a million bucks!)

Maybe I should have been a bit more specific... I was referring to this Matrix-like thing, not the one in the commercial. (Since I don't live in the U.S., I didn't see the E*Trade Matrix commercial. I'll have to check them out on AdCritic later)

... the wondrous internet brings us all the ads from the superbowl, delivered directly into our homes

If only superbowl.adcritic.com weren't superbowled... oh wait, posting this isn't going to help, is it?

If you want to look at those comercials, you can always go to adcritic.

(I just want to be helpful, if you think I am a karma whore, mod me down).

Fh

Many, many people here have stated many times over the various ways in which ads simply do not work.

One thing I almost never see used is sponsorship of a site. This is where a site could have a sponsor (or set of sponsors) that would be integrated into the page - something like "This page brought to you by CorpCo brand dish soap!".

This brings awareness of the brand to the consumer without the annoyance of ad banners. The site could have click-throughs that would take you to the sponsor site or show sponsor advertising (for instance, you might be sponsoered by Bud and the reader would be able to see the latest Bud TV ad through links on your site. If you think that will not help you, how does adcritic thrive?).

Even more importantly, a site seeking to gather sponsors could get many of the metrics they desired because the site itself could say "we're targeting 25 year old males that work at Burger King" and give some idea to the advertiser what kind of segment they would be looking at.

Not perfect, but better than it is now and within the range of feasability - there might never be a good way to determine who's actually using your site but you can say who you built it for, and revise that estimate as you go. Then it's just a matter of counting page views to get a rough idea of audience size.

The other means is using affiliate programs to help generate revenue, that seems like the easiest thing to do going forward - perhaps popular sites could even help companies the want to be affiliates with to start affiliate programs, in exchange for some extra compensation or limited percentage of the income.

It seems in the future that you won't just be able to put up a banner at the top of the screen and rake in income. On the other hand, the web will probably be a better place for it, even if sites have to work a little harder to get ad revenue.

Just go to Ad Critic.

Not plagarizing. Though I suppose if you want to be legalese about it he should've included credits.

Or he could've simply posted a link to here

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the trailer looks OK..Looks kinda similiar to Episode 1, but hey it's tough being creative. Check it out http://www.adcritic.com/content/star-wars-episode- 2.html

http://www.adcritic.com/content/movie-crouching-ti ger-hidden-dragon.html

My friends and I watched it last week and all we could say was "Oooh... play it again." This is on the top of our list of movies to see when/if we stop boycotting the MPAA.

They're trying to change your behavior to force you into the old model they're used to.

I would agree with this and I think the model they're use to is return on their dollar and that isn't holding true for web advertising : $1000 in advertising is not equalling $1001 in additional profits. As bizarre as it might seem, television commercials have been proven to work: Put a name in someone's head and they might give it a second chance at the super market. Namespace is a very confounding thing but it's so true : Put your name in people's minds and they're more likely to buy your product or services (it's like the old "any advertising is good advertising" motto). Remember that while the net started off as the realm of the intellectual elite, it is now the domain of every facet of society, so the advertising is going to evolve into the standard namespace advertising.

Having said that do you really think advertising in the way you mention would work? Remember that advertising is a science as much as it's an art : These people know what they're doing. They study and research and follow and test. They analyze the impace of every type of image, colour, sound, etc. If there was an ad saying "IBM Deskstar 9ms 7200RPM ATA100 - Fast!" I wouldn't even notice it...and that's the problem that advertisers are finding : People simply don't notice ads on the net. On TV the ad takes over the TV (they've been trying other things...during a F1 race last year they tried doing a thing where they had side screen ads with the race still running : I TOTALLY didn't notice the ad while trying to concentrate on the race, and I'm sure they found this to be universally the case as they never did it again) so you can't help but notice it. Hell advertisements are some of the best things on TV (see http://www.adcritic.com) but it's because we give them a chance in the first place. Banner ads don't get a chance on the web. Hell on Slashdot I scroll down so quickly I never have a clue what the ads are. I think once there was one about a penguin stepping on Redmond but that's the only one I've ever noticed.

I wish some people weren't so stingy with their tech and some other people weren't so eager to lock out chunks of their audience when open formats exist, then I could see it again awake.

And the commercial is not to be missed!

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Incase it gets slashdoted the commercial is also available at adcritic.com

• 3dfx: All White Meat
• 3dfx: Modern Medicine
• 3dfx: Proud Engineer

• 3dfx: All White Meat
• 3dfx: Modern Medicine
• 3dfx: Proud Engineer

• 3dfx: All White Meat
• 3dfx: Modern Medicine
• 3dfx: Proud Engineer

Absolutely. Great ad. It's not on TV here, but I caught it at Adcritic.com. You can Slashdot them by clicking here. You will need QuickTime to view it; sadly, Apple apparently hasn't seen fit to release it for Linux yet.

Further, Windows Media Player intercepts it though it can't play it, so you might have to take all *.mov filetypes away from Windows Media Player. (Hey, I run Linux on all my servers, but I need Winbloze for my main machine.)

Yeah, I know. I knew that there was a grain of truth to it, but I thought it was just a quote taken out of context. Which it basically is, if he helped to get funding for ARPANET. (Ahhh... memories. I got my first Internet account back in '88, when it was still called ARPANET, and all you got was a line to dial into a shell account with your terminal program. I started out with surplus equipment: a 300 baud acoustic modem on a real DEC VT-100 terminal, both of which I still have, for historical reasons.)

Gore may be uninspiring, but he's the clear choice.

Forgot to mention... a better resolution version was posted to AdCritic. (Note: Requires Quicktime plugin.)

Some day I hope to have a .plan.

Forgot to mention... a better resolution version was posted to AdCritic. (Note: Requires Quicktime plugin.)

Some day I hope to have a .plan.

Adcritic& lt;/A> has a GREAT spoof ad for the Sony Playstation and Tekken. (unfortunately requires quicktime...)

Adcritic has a GREAT spoof ad for the Sony Playstation and Tekken. (unfortunately requires quicktime...)

• Softer, smoother ride and increased comfort to passengers
• Increased ability to easily roll vehicle
• Simple and inexpensive source of material to re-sole your Birkenstock Sandals or brand-named Tennis Shoes

[1] Firestone AT Wilderness

Well, if you're watching Ally McBeal or Friends, the actresses have dieted to the point where even a second dimension adds no information.

FX, on the other hand, would be greatly enhanced -- Son of the Beach, the X-Show, Married With Children reruns...

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Roll up with more stereotypes:
http://www .ad critic.com/content/molson-canadian-no-doot-aboot-i t.html and the follow-up http://www.adcri tic .com/content/molson-canadian-no-doot-eh.html

But to clarify things a bit: http://www.adcritic.co m/c ontent/molson-canadian-i-am.html

Roll up with more stereotypes:
http://www .ad critic.com/content/molson-canadian-no-doot-aboot-i t.html and the follow-up http://www.adcri tic .com/content/molson-canadian-no-doot-eh.html

But to clarify things a bit: http://www.adcritic.co m/c ontent/molson-canadian-i-am.html

Roll up with more stereotypes:
http://www .ad critic.com/content/molson-canadian-no-doot-aboot-i t.html and the follow-up http://www.adcri tic .com/content/molson-canadian-no-doot-eh.html

But to clarify things a bit: http://www.adcritic.co m/c ontent/molson-canadian-i-am.html

DSL availability and quality totally depends on where you live. Being in British Columbia Canada we're blessed with some very fast and cheap ADSL. (Telus.net DSL) I've heard my fair share of horror stories about Pac Bell DSL in particular. For now unfortunately there aren't too many options, Cable or DSL, it just depends which is better in your location. I am also of the opinion that you get what you pay for. You want connection powaz the Telco's are going to make you pay through the nose. (Ala $1600/mo for a T1 here). The cable companies and Telco's don't compete, they're in bed together! It's amazing how much bandwidth/backbones they share when it boils down to it. They have similar pricing schemes and put on a show for the consumer. (PacBell DSL Cops Commercial Spoof) What it basically comes down to is, if you're a nerd, and you need a phat connect, chances are you'll pay far more than the average joe. It just depends on how far you're willing to go for that connection. The more you pay the more you'll get in my experience, it's as simple as that. GX-Deltan deltan@gamers.com

Okay links first then comments: Fake trailer for Episode II

Well for those die hards out there, this is something I found a few weeks ago. If you have seen it before, watch it again, its cool. If not then grab quicktime and get some popcorn.

Fake .sig

I think we can come to this conclusion ourself, if need be, thanks.

Petrely writes:

"The fact is our current system entitles us to some free information, and it requires us to purchase or license other information. You may not like the fact that some information must be licensed, but that's how it is. Those who want information to be free as a matter of principle should create some information and make it free. But what they shouldn't do is license or buy existing information that is not free and then cut it loose without permission. That's just plain wrong,..."

There are two types of objects - tangible and intangible. Tangible objects (food, your car, a minidisc player) can only have one owner at any given moment. Intangible objects (music, inventions, words) can have any number of owners. Physical objects have a single owner out of nessesity - it cannot exist in two places at the same time. But what about an idea? Clearly I can make a copy of your poem without depriving you of that poem.

So what is the point of giving exclusive ownership of an idea when it can be shared by all without depriving the creator of that idea? It is power, clearly enough. I have, you don't, let's negotiate. It is easy to use Napster as a sort of strawman to attack, but it's another issue entirely when you look at intellectual property in the light of the AIDS epedemic where millions have died and continue to die because pharmecuticals own the right to the knowledge. "Give us a half billion for the rights to create our vaccine. OH, you don't have that kind of cash? Oh, your entire country's GDP isn't even half that? Sorry." How about irrigation technologies? I could go on but I think my point is made.

I'll grant that there needs to be an impetus for the company to create the vaccine in the first place, but once it's created that knowledge should be in the public domain.

"...and it demonstrates that what they are interested in is not free speech at all but getting stuff without paying for it."

This is akin to saying electronic hobbyists are only interested in descrambling their cable feed. Can it be a side result? Yes. Is it the point? No.

Are you not aware of what a 21st century, western idea ownership of knowledge is? Is it beyond your ability to comprehend - not even nessesarily to understand but to just acknowledge - that ownship of an idea is repugnent, almost humorous?

As an aside, I enjoy the fact that I can get a song and erase it if I don't like it. No blood no foul. I appreciate the fact that I haven't heard a single radio ad in 2 years. I can't name a single radio station and I live in metro Boston. I haven't seen a single TV ad that I haven't gone out of my way to see.

Free speech, Nick, isn't only about the right to speak myself but the right of others to speak so I might hear them. You've got this idea that free speech means "me me me" but what it really does (and should) stand for is "them them them". And what does a company that control information fear more than anything? Loss of market share, loss of mindshare, loss of control.

And what is intellectual property about if not control?

My .02
Quux26

After seeing their commercial, I assumed GlobalPC was selling refurbished Macs.

You can see an excellent spoof of Episode II (as a trailer) at AdCritic: click here

Okay -- here's my only question -- how long do you guys think it'll be before somebody bothers to come up with an 'adcritic.com' like network for those of us with TiVo/RePlay boxen? (I personally have become something of an addict of adcritic and watching great ones like the 'wasabi' bud ad and the 'lebatts food fight' .. (the last days of clinton was really good too) ... maybe I'm just a freak this way .. but judging from the hits that adcritic claims it gets i'm forced to assume not ... this could be a moneymaker for someone ... (and I'd sure appreciate to just hop onto by tube and say "hey guys... you seen this ad yet?!? it's funnier than hell!") ... just a thought ...
bemis

It would be valid to say that advertising exists on the internet because of its increased use. Not the other way around.

Internet advertising doesn't really work. People aren't clicking on those banners, and they plain don't like them. A text sponsorship link is going to get more click-thru's than the annoying animated banner that's pissing me off now.

Site that MUST survive off of advertising aren't going to make a profit. If you launch a site and expect advertising to pay the bills, think again. The site must be established before it can even come close to being supported by advertising.

Right now the majority of advertising on the 'net is being done by morons that have no clue what they're doing, like this ShareZilla thing. Advertising is an art, and it can't be successful unless it's well planned and executed.

Think about it, when you get a spam mail, see a banner, or download a dummy file, you're annoyed. Rarely do you want to annoy your customers. When you're watching TV and you see a good commercial, you aren't going to be annoyed. Hell, there's even sites like AdCritic that have commercials you can watch anytime, and people DO. You don't see anything (and you won't) with banner ads or spam mail.

Basically what I'm saying is there is not any real advertising being done on the internet. Right now it's just hacks spamming people, and saying that this made the internet big is just insulting. If anything it is hindering it's evolution.

If Napster's damage can be measured in the trillions in a lawsuit, just imagine what you've opened yourself up to.

"Exadollars, and soon, petadollars. One thousand billion trillion dollars. How many lawsuits per second can your software handle?" with apologies to IBM

please forgive duplication if it occurs, I'm having trouble getting through