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We know that. It frustrates and confuses me why folks like yourself aren't as a group shouting down the crazy ones among you because I know you aren't alone.

I think Evangelicals are not shouting him down as a group because as a group, evangelicals overwhelmingly support Trump's policies and ignore who he is as a person. The exit polling was something like 80-16%. In particular, policies most important to most evangelicals are likely abortion, religious freedom, support for Israel, and same-sex marriage. And if you look at those issues, Trump has moved in the direction they desire pretty much completely across the board.

If you assume that Americans feel we're in the middle of a culture war (certainly seems like the left and right think so), basic human conflict instinct kicks in. There are only allies and enemies. And Trump's policies are beneficial, so he becomes an ally, and allies must be defended and rallied around, despite their flaws. Don't underestimate the power of human group think--it's insanely powerful. Trump is nowhere near Hitler, and yet Hitler had millions of people rallied around him and cheering him on. One of my favorite quotes to a college class was "You realize that if this was Germany in 1939, nearly all of you would be Nazis?"

Here's an article that I think reflects reality pretty well.
https://www.al.com/living/inde...

But there is a growing movement of liberal evangelicals as well:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/0...

The best course of action would be for us to all learn how to get along with each other. The left calling all Trump supporters racists, homophobes, and bigots isn't helping. The right's treatment of immigrants, immigrant children, homosexuals, and hispanics is infuriating. We need to stop declaring war on each other and learn to compromise and communicate. I personally refuse to "Foe" people on Slashdot to hide their comments, because I believe the Facebook isolation bubble effect is harmful. And while it's uncomfortable to read many posts declaring my faith as "fairy tale worship", it's important that I stay open and communicate with people of all backgrounds.

An evangelical apologist? Go figure...

https://newrepublic.com/minute...
https://www.rollingstone.com/p...
https://www.al.com/living/inde...

And next on evangelical docket? Getting rid of Sessions to protect Trump.

https://www.politico.com/story...

I suspect that many of the people who are going to stand there and beat the drum on this one will also oppose requirements for voter ID. This despite the fact that every US state offers non-driver license state issued ID cards for a nominal fee or free in the case of financial hardship. At least, I am not aware of a state where that isn't the case.

It's easy for "us" and too often, not so much for "them". I've found precious few cases where the states requiring photo ID also providing a mechanism or set of mechanisms for helping to make it possible. I specifically remember the Alabama story:

https://www.al.com/opinion/ind...

As a lapsed poll-worker (too busy working overtime these days to volunteer), and whose assignments were in mixed-to-majority-minority precincts, I have found that out of 250-400 people voting, all but 2-5 of them people have photo ID. The fraction of the population that doesn't have photo IDs is so tiny that the focus on such IDs is statistically bogus. However, it would make sense in the context of whipping up "concern" in a particular subset of our population.

Your examples are 404.
Doesn't matter anyway because your 3 anecdotal examples don't overrule years/decades of experience. Democrat supporting media entities (hint: 92% of journos) routinely leave out or don't mention the perp is a Democrat. They don't do it all the time of course because that's too blatant. However, they do it often enough that it's an obvious bias. Whenever it is a republican, it goes on the front page and the world is told all about it.

The media and the Democratic party are almost one and the same. At best, the media is a propaganda arm of the Democratic party.

Don't believe me? Guess who's back....why it's our old crooked friend Donna Brazile. If you had an ounce of integrity, you would recognize that the very fact Donna is still around after what she pulled is indicative of a deep level of corruption. She's just one example of many.

And to be fair, the republicans have some chumps too. They just don't have the media to cover them up like the Democrats do.

You mean like how Trent Lott, then Republican Senate leader declared his wish that Strom Thurmond had won the Presidency?

Yeah, I'll have to grant, that's not fighting for the right to own black people. Thurmond just wanted to fuck them illicitly. Disreputable, but not quite legally sanctioned property.

Sorry dude, you only exposed yourself.

I get it though, you think IOKIYAR is the mantra to live by. That's why you swore undying devotion to the Birther-in-Chief. After all, once you've abdicated your very soul, what does it matter what destitution and depravity you espouse?

Americans totally fell for a completely obviously bullshit con-artist loony-toons crackpot nutjob. Frankly, I'm surprised he's not running for public orifice. He would fit right in with the majority that is actually in minority, but not welcoming to minorities by the majority of them.

What next, the return of Kent Hovind? Roy Moore's Spoken Word Album goes Platinum? Michelle Bachmann hears the call of God?

How is Roy Moore a criminal?

The SCOTUS ruled he broke the law TWICE and he was twice removed from office as a result. Criminal.

He also fraudulently took a million+ dollars in payment from a "charity" he operated, while filing false paperwork with the IRS to cover it up. Tax fraud.

http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2017/08/ad_attacks_roy_moores_pay_from.html

Cousin! It's bad enough that you fuck the neighbors' goats. But a horse is going too far! http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2018/01/irivington_man_appears_in_cour.html

Cousin! It's bad enough that you fuck the neighbors' goats. But a horse is going too far! http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2018/01/irivington_man_appears_in_cour.html

Cousin! It's bad enough that you fuck the neighbors' goats. But a horse is going too far! http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2018/01/irivington_man_appears_in_cour.html

Cousin! It's bad enough that you fuck the neighbors' goats. But a horse is going too far! http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2018/01/irivington_man_appears_in_cour.html

you go to DMV with something like a birth certificate or SS card and you get a voter ID free of charge.

What if they close the DMV offices around you? So you have to travel 40 miles to the nearest DMV office to get a Voter ID, what's the big deal? You don't have a car? Can't afford one? And there's no way to get there by bus or you'd have to take an entire day off from work to do it?

Link: http://www.al.com/news/index.s... If you trust the state government or is this 'fake news'?

Wendy Miller told The Post that she was 14 and working as Santa's helper at the Gadsden Mall in 1977 when Moore first spoke with her and told her she looked pretty. Two years later, when she was 16, he asked her out on dates, although her mother wouldn't let her go.

Usry, who was a teenager at the time, remembers seeing Moore at the mall often.

"He would go and flirt with all the young girls," he said. "It'd seem like every Friday or Saturday night (you'd see him) walking around the mall, like the kids did."

Jason Nelms, who now lives in Tennessee but grew up in nearby Southside, was a regular at the mall when he was a teenager.

He recalled being told by a mall employee that they kept watch for an older guy who was known to pick up younger girls.

Nelms said he was told later by a concession worker at the mall that it was Roy Moore.

citation provided for all the republicans who eagerly vote for child molesters by lying to discredit their victims in the most vile way possible.

You are disgusting.

Funny, we just ended an 11 streak of no hurricanes in the US. Tornado activity continues to trend down. Antarctica is accumulating snow and ice mass faster than it's losing it. Methane has been increasing steadily since the 50s and Russia, the source of that permafrost was massively down in the 2000s, and still not close to the peak back in 1990. So that's all four of four of your "checked" predictions that are actual failures, not successes.

Non-whites can't be expected to be able to get an ID, you RAAACIST prick!

You're the one who is arguing that it's their fault for not getting an ID, the rest of us are pointing out how you closed the DMVs andlied to them.

I get it though, you know you can't win by honestly admitting your problem.

Heaven forbid the US should actually follow the UN's standard for free and fair elections

The US's problem has been fair and open elections, where they didn't have hurdles put in front of voters that were disenfranchised.

Non-whites can't be expected to be able to get an ID, you RAAACIST prick!

You're the one who is arguing that it's their fault for not getting an ID, the rest of us are pointing out how you closed the DMVs andlied to them.

I get it though, you know you can't win by honestly admitting your problem.

Heaven forbid the US should actually follow the UN's standard for free and fair elections

The US's problem has been fair and open elections, where they didn't have hurdles put in front of voters that were disenfranchised.

And get fired as a judge. Twice!.

Oh wait, no, that's the latest crazy from Alabama.

If elected, he'd question Facebook, Google, and Twitter on why they allow "those gays" to even have posting rights, that just seems un-Jesus like to him.

Americans killed by guns in recorded history: 0

Is that like that philosopher who insisted that nobody was killed by a sword, they died from not avoiding the sword?

Here's a shock for you, guns do kill people.

On a side note, concealed carry warning and brandishing probably stops that many robberies, rapes and murders in a week...

Because...you must think that attempted robberies, rapes, and murders are so common that there are thousands a week! What kind of crime-ridden world of fear do you live in?

Americans killed by medical mistakes each year: about 250,000

And we've got a whole group of people arguing about that problem too!

Americans killed by antibiotic resistant bacteria each year: 23,000

Also discussed.

Clearly guns are not that big a threat unless you are an alt left fascist progressive looking to dominate and subjugate the American people.

Nope, guns are a big threat to the American people, what with deaths from toddlers with guns, whereas imaginary fears of alt-left fascist progressives looking to dominate and subjugate the American people aren't a threat at all, except so insofar as they lead right-wing pseudo-conservative trolls to instigate feigned outrage in America.

Every dictator in the last 100 years from Stalin to Mao on down the line disarmed their people first and then murdered millions of them.

Nope. In fact, many dictators armed their people, then told them to go forth and kill "not their people" because well, that's a great way for dictators to keep power.

You must not be familiar with history.

Guns are in fact inanimate objects controlled by their wielder, which is why every LEO in the country carries one.

Guns, are in fact, tools that ought to be regulated like many other tools, such as lawnmowers, chainsaws, pressure washers, and nail guns, and no, not every LEO in the country carries one. For example. And some shouldn't.

Any group that uses "gun deaths" are political shills with no interest in truth.

I wonder if you realize that group includes yourself.

Gun deaths usually include suicides (who just use different methods in gun free countries), criminals shot by police or citizens, and other justified shootings that are actually a good thing for society and end up saving lives.

Nope, actually, they're not using different methods, the suicide rates are often lower, self-defense and other justified shootings are excluded from the counts though actually...the number of such shootings is a problem, not even counting the various incidents.

Sorry, I know you don't want there to be any problem except not having enough bullets for all those dirty leftists who you hate with all you

Snopes is wrong. Trading EBT cards for drugs is a consistent problem.

  http://www.al.com/news/index.s...

  "Thirteen previously exempted Alabama counties saw an 85 percent drop in food stamp participation after work requirements were put in place on Jan. 1, according to the Alabama Department of Human Resources."

  About 80% of the people I know getting welfare don't need it and are scamming the system. Perhaps this is a distorted ratio since I'm middle class and thus know mostly people in that level as well.

Seriously, can you cite some examples of Google leaking private information, or someone being damaged by information stolen from Google?

Easy - here's one that got settled only yesterday. And here's EPIC's take on it (PDF), where they criticize Google for pushing for a settlement that doesn't block them from continuing their practices, as long as they dump a few extra lines in the privacy policy - which Google knows full well nobody reads.

I understand from another post that you work for Google, so I can see why you're motivated to spin things to make the company look better. However, your post is quite dishonest. The GP criticizes Google as an invader of everybody's privacy. Your reply tries to re-frame the question, by making it whether Google unintentionally gives the data they gather to others. This is not correct. Privacy is not about Google not leaking data to others (and I note you say nothing about selling the data intentionally). Privacy is Google not collecting and not storing all this data, especially from people who haven't even signed up with them. But Google is collecting it all, from Google Analytics, from Google Fonts, from your e-mail, from your phone location, from your credit card purchases and so on. Their whole business model is based on spying on you. And they're the ones who started this trend of tracking and monetizing internet users that is making the Internet worse and worse everyday. That's why Google is the worst company in what regards privacy.

No, this is more like a big-box hardware store finding a legal loophole and not paying 10 billion dollars in corporate property taxes.

It's criminal and its executives should spend a couple of years in prison for it.

A controversial summer reading list at Spanish Fort High School in Alabama, has become a focus of national media attention because of its right-wing bent.

Examples include:
"Liberalism is a Mental Disorder: Savage Solutions," by Michael Savage (plus 4 other Michael Savage books);
'"End the Fed," by Ron Paul;
"Guilty: Liberal "Victims" and their Assault on America," by Ann Coulter;
"Abortion and the Conscience of a Nation," by former President Ronald Reagan; and
"48 Liberal Lies About American History (That You Probably Learned in School)," by Larry Schweikart.

The list was part of a complaint has been filed with the Baldwin County School system alleging a culture of bias and discrimination.

Sure thing. This is from Alabama. This is a list of acceptable photo voter ID that is acceptable. Here is an article about the closure of 29 different county DMV offices. Here is proof that the "mobile ID centers" on make a single stop in each county, and only for two hours at a time. A federal lawsuit will start in September of 2017.

Now, one could claim that it's all due to budget cuts, or such. That it's not some type of voter disenfranchisement plan. Perhaps if this wasn't in Alabama, that might be believable. I'll let you find the numerous citations on Alabama's long history of racism, segregation, and so on...shouldn't take you too long. Hanlon's Razor should always be considered...but when it comes to Alabama and racism, so should Heinlein's Razor:"...but don't rule out malice."

But there is no doubt the overwhelming majority of terrorists are Christian - it is only logical, as the largest religion on earth by far, they must also have the largest number of radicals.

Oh, bullshit. The US is 70.6% Christian and 0.9% Muslim (ref), and yet - by your own numbers - Christian terrorists commit only twice as many attacks as Muslim terrorists, rather than the seventy time as many that we would expect if they were equally violent.

And that is, of course, if we trust your numbers. For such a political subject, I wouldn't trust the number of attacks: a partisan analyst can easily fudge the definition of "attack" a bit, or a lot, to suit their prejudices. Death toll makes a more reliable measure: it's difficult to argue with a dead body.

People still try to fudge these numbers by redefining exactly what constitutes a Christian/Muslim terrorist attack. You've tried to do this yourself, arguing that the Orlando nightclub shooting shouldn't count, despite the shooter saying "In the name of Allah the Merciful, the beneficent" as the very first thing he said upon picking up the phone (ref), with a total of three references to Allah in five lines of conversation. If we looked properly at the instances of purportedly Christian terrorism you're referencing, do you really think they would meet this same standard of religious motivation?

I like the idea of experimentation, but how often do states find that things work and the rest of the country does them? Usually, idiot states like Alabama wallow in poverty watching other states do smart things. The conservative Romney Care worked. So all states should do that right? But if you give states choice they'll reject the same thing by another name like it's going to kill them.

No you don't.

You had to fire your own damned judge!

You know, I remember the 60s and early 70s in the US, before the Clean Air Act was amended to empower the federal government to regulate emissions.

If you are under 50, you would not believe how bad things got. Look at pictures of Los Angeles, New York, or Chicago. Hell, even Salt Lake City was barely recognizable. It wasn't just big cities, either; small cities like Birmingham looked like this.

When you look at an old movie or TV show from the late 60s early 70s and everything in the distance looks hazy, that's not the film. That's what cities actually looked like on a good day.

I bring this up because the decision to to do something about air pollution was a sign of how healthy our democracy used to be. There was a problem that was costly and complex to tackle, but we did it. And as today there were people who profited by the status quo, that allowed them to externalize their waste management costs. The difference is that their hold on politicians was a lot less, and there was more independent media. Had we not done something about air pollution in 1970, we'd be where Beijing is now, and we'd be just as powerless to do anything about it today.

The baker is not at fault for standing up for their beliefs. The problem is an overreaching government. Don't blame the victim.

The baker is at fault for attempting to impose his beliefs on society at large. Society, however, has decided that bakers can't compel us to respect their refusal to bake cakes for people based on their relationship. If they don't want to bake cakes for such customers, they don't get to be in business, any more than they do if they don't want to wear hairnets or not racially discriminate.

But then they can't be honest as judges either.

So plainly the notion that money is the absolute determinant in politics is false.

Oh no, the Republican gerrymandering is also a significant factor.

North Carolina, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Virginia, Texas, Alabama, Florida, and Georgia all demonstrate the effectiveness of that manipulation.

Of course, they already lost in Arizona, so it won't be long before the people start taking back the power. Then what will they do?

Sessions? The same Sessions who got an award from the NAACP for breaking up the KKK? Racist? I'm getting cognitive dissonance here.

No, I'm sensing some fantasy delusions here, Sessions never got an award from the NAACP for breaking up the KKK, which would be pretty hard, since it never had any singular organization while he was alive anyway, and the organization remains much as it has been for the past few decades, but the only claim of Sessions getting an award from the NAACP in 2009 is so recent, and is specious, with no particular association or claim to it.

Maybe Sessions didn't go down to the plaque shop himself, but there's no evidence to show who did, the NAACP isn't supporting it or him.

Isn't it suspicious that there's been no press release or media brief from when he got it?

Huh. The only question is...why?

What does Sessions have to hide, that he needed a fake award to give him credibility?

Sorry, but there is no established provenance to that "award" which Sessions received.

Now I'm not saying that Sessions went down to the local plaque making shop himself, but is it possible he knows who did? Why is it only a Republican who claims to remember it? Why hasn't anybody dug up any press releases? Maybe it was just some random group of people at the convention who rented a room, bought a plaque, and that's all there is to it.

At least with Obama's Nobel Prize, you know they were mocking George W, but legit.

BTW, Check this out

Sorry, but there is no established provenance to that "award" which Sessions received.

Now I'm not saying that Sessions went down to the local plaque making shop himself, but is it possible he knows who did? Why is it only a Republican who claims to remember it? Why hasn't anybody dug up any press releases? Maybe it was just some random group of people at the convention who rented a room, bought a plaque, and that's all there is to it.

At least with Obama's Nobel Prize, you know they were mocking George W, but legit.

BTW, Check this out

I can confirm that customers in Alabama did not pay sales tax. Although that changes on November 1.
Yay sales tax!
I suppose we will be getting a store somewhere in the state as well.

So you feel that your states vote should NOT represent the majority of the voters? You'd rather it reflect the opinions of a spread out minority?

My state doesn't have a vote, the people in it do, and for various reasons said people are often unrepresented in the actual vote in the Electoral college, in the US House, in the US Senate, and in the state's own legislature. This is even aside from the abysmal turnout.

Side note, I just saw a story about Alabama's courts. Lawsuit against Alabama Courts.

There were at least a couple lawsuits against Boeing for just that:
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/09...
http://blog.al.com/wire/2013/0...

Gun manufacturers actually have a law limiting their liability though:
Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act

At the time of the election Alabama had an unemployment rate of just under 3%, a small but consistently shrinking deficit and manageable debt.

I note that in 2011, unemployment in Alabama was near 10% not near 3%; that the education fund (which makes up a large portion of the Alabama budget) had been cut back by 20% over the previous three years prior to the 2010-2011 budget (which means it might be a "conservative economics" action, but not one by the present governor); and it's state debt per capita is really low, going from $1,738 in 2011 to $1,867 in 2015 (which I think we can all agree is not a significant enough difference to go from .

Alabama's deficite is now larger than the total state revenue.

Every link I look at says something like Alabama's budget is around $5-6 billion per year while it's deficits vary a great deal from year to year, but haven't gone over a billion dollars per year.

You know, this looks a lot like your claim that 45% of all carbon emissions come from whips-and-chains slave labor, that is, it is complete bullshit.

A mountain of bricks huh: that did not happen on this occasion Issues that would result in outrage elsewhere in the world are so common here that they don't even result in charges. You've been duped about the "shared peace", the issue is not so much a violent clash between gun bullies and the authorities, though those do happen, it is the daily slaughter by accident and casual gun use.

NCAA found all but 20 lose money:

http://www.al.com/sports/index...

This article considers the viewpoint that sports may help drive enrollment, but finds overall most schools don't make any money on football or basketball:

http://www.acenet.edu/news-roo...

Huntsville is actually a perfect example of why this trend is independent of education level and has more to do with specialization. Here's an article about why Curse gaming moved a large portion of it's workforce from Huntsville to Irvine, CA.

http://www.al.com/business/ind...

Curse wanted to be closer to their customers and have access to more employment candidates. Huntsville is a great place for government related technology but there are numerous places in CA that are better for consumer technology. Putting more money into education doesn't fix this, it's just the nature of specialized industries.

Thus, when laws said "firing a gun within a city limit is illegal," it does not always mean it is illegal in all cases because there could be other factors that are higher priority than firing a gun. One needs to consider the totality of the circumstance as well.

I think, in general, you'll find the legal system much less willing to do this then you idealize. For instance, Alabama prosecutors use an anti-abortion law to prosecute new moms for taking a Valium during pregnancy. All the time, the letter of the law is used to prosecution people beyond the intended scope and spirit of the original bill. Juries are instructed to blindly apply it, machine-like, without taking the "totality of circumstances" and reasonable common sense into account.

Regardless of how you think the law should work (and what rights people should or should not have against intruding drones), this guy would have been screwed in 99.9% of courtrooms because of the statute. (Unless there was some state-level preemption kicking in here... I'd love to read thru the case if I had time to see if there's any chance this won't be overturned in a future case.)

My point is, you might think it reasonable to shirk the law in this or that circumstance. However, prosecutors and judges have the ability to strip away reasonableness.

But even that doesn't always work all that well.

The Asiana 214 crash in San Francisco in 2013 has been blamed to a large extent on an over-reliance on automation.

Having grown up near O'Hare airport, taxi's to me are cars, with the word TAXI on it, that drive around waiting to be flagged down or that wait in a queue for the next passenger at the airport.

If they invent a way for me to "call" a taxi using an electronic device with a dial, that's connected by wires to a network using an area code and seven numbers, does that mean it's not a taxi company?

To me Uber seems to be a bunch of junior limo's without the booze or livery license plates.

You can get booze in an Uber taxi if you know where to look.

http://www.al.com/news/tuscalo...

I mean, look -- there were a bunch of recent stories with suspects getting killed or beate...n

Well, I think ONE thing is pretty clear.

Don't RUN from the cops. The one common denominator from most of the recently publicized cop shootings of citizens, is that the citizen generally ran from the officer.

But one thing to do for sure...don't act like an ass, if you are (and you should) exerting your rights, do so in a calm, non-threatening fashion. Don't shout. Don't curse, use clear concise language. The "Am I free to go" statement is a very simple and very powerful thing to say and get an answer to.

If you don't give them a reason to beat you...99.999% of the time they are not..

Tell that to poor Mr. Sureshbhai Patel: http://www.al.com/news/index.s...

Bad example. He actually resisted arrest and comes from a country where the police are far more corrupt than they are in the U.S. so he had some fear. Although, he did not speak English (how I don't know since English has been taught in India schools for over a century), he also did not submit and tried to get away from the cops. Now, the cop reaction was excessive--throwing the man down hard to a concrete slab and breaking a vertebrae or two--the man did resist arrest. It could have been handled a lot better.

On the contrary, this is a good example. That the LEO got fired and arrested is inconsequential to the argument at hand (the probability of a LEO beating the crap out of you for no valid reason.) The LEO's arrest is a consequence of the event whose probability is into question, so this is irrelevant.

As for the old grandpa resisting arrest, well that is still not a reason. For starters he wasn't resisting, he was simply in a state of not knowing what to do in the face of having uniformed strangers "touching" him during a patdown, not understanding WTF was going on.

That is not resisting. No judge in any goddamned court in this country (nor most LEOS) will ever find that as an example of resisting arrest. Let's be real.

So right there is a counter-example of the claim that if you do nothing (code for "act reasonable") will not get you taken like a piñata by a LEO.

Secondly, this "resisting arrest" mantra is very troublesome and common in forums.

What if instead of an old grandpa from India with zero English skills, we have an adult that is clearly suffering from mental retardation, and he walks back/away from LEOs during a patdown.

Is that resisting? And if so, does that warrant a beat down?

What about a deaf person who cannot hear you, who cannot comply with your orders? Is that person resisting arrest? Fuck no.

kfor.com/2014/02/26/dash-cam-video-deaf-man-charged-with-resisting-arrest-officers-cleared/ At some point, LEOs (and people in general) are bound to exercise common sense, decency, and compassion. In Mr. Patel's case, the LEO clearly understood the old man didn't speak English. Logic would dictate that the officer (a college degree holder and thus, supposedly, sufficiently educated to know better) would know that this person was not capable of understanding instructions, nor following them.

That right there blows up the argument that he was resisting arrest. You can't allege resistance to arrest when you (or should know) the person is incapacitated to comply (be them by obvious language barriers or physical/mental incapacity.) I mean, you can argue that it is so, just in the same way we can argue the world was created in 7 days and that the world is flat with the sun orbiting it.

It happens all the time, all the fucking time, for no reasons, for no valid reasons, not even for quasi-reasons that could be stretched into something barely resembling a reason. It just that nowadays, this type of shit gets move visible because the ubiquitous presence of cameras.

I mean, look -- there were a bunch of recent stories with suspects getting killed or beate...n

Well, I think ONE thing is pretty clear.

Don't RUN from the cops. The one common denominator from most of the recently publicized cop shootings of citizens, is that the citizen generally ran from the officer.

But one thing to do for sure...don't act like an ass, if you are (and you should) exerting your rights, do so in a calm, non-threatening fashion. Don't shout. Don't curse, use clear concise language. The "Am I free to go" statement is a very simple and very powerful thing to say and get an answer to.

If you don't give them a reason to beat you...99.999% of the time they are not..

Tell that to poor Mr. Sureshbhai Patel: http://www.al.com/news/index.s...

Bad example. He actually resisted arrest and comes from a country where the police are far more corrupt than they are in the U.S. so he had some fear. Although, he did not speak English (how I don't know since English has been taught in India schools for over a century), he also did not submit and tried to get away from the cops. Now, the cop reaction was excessive--throwing the man down hard to a concrete slab and breaking a vertebrae or two--the man did resist arrest. It could have been handled a lot better.

I mean, look -- there were a bunch of recent stories with suspects getting killed or beate...n

Well, I think ONE thing is pretty clear.

Don't RUN from the cops. The one common denominator from most of the recently publicized cop shootings of citizens, is that the citizen generally ran from the officer.

But one thing to do for sure...don't act like an ass, if you are (and you should) exerting your rights, do so in a calm, non-threatening fashion. Don't shout. Don't curse, use clear concise language. The "Am I free to go" statement is a very simple and very powerful thing to say and get an answer to.

If you don't give them a reason to beat you...99.999% of the time they are not..

Tell that to poor Mr. Sureshbhai Patel: http://www.al.com/news/index.s...

In other news, strictly black-only frats and sororities have all also been disbanded for being racially exclusive.

Probably; one opinion piece and a news article indicate that such organizations don't exist.

Gotta luv those red state inbred cops. Alabama, Texas it's all the same...yeehawwww! http://www.al.com/news/index.s...

If you create an anonymity network, those of us who have worked in forensics know the depravity and criminality that it will attract

If you create a law enforcement framework which hoards power jealously and does its best to prevent openness, those of us who are thoughtful citizens know the depravity and criminality that it will attract.

If you want to run an anonymity network - dont be so naive as to say it's for the greater good.

If you want to run an organized crime network, don't be so disingenuous as to say it's for the greater good.

I note that you're hiding behind anonymity, and that you're a depraved criminal, so I guess that there's something to what you say...