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Agreed. A rooted Android phone with a decent mod on it is as close as you can get to a Unix box in your pocket. The lack of a physical keyboard is a drag, but with a decent stock keyboard replacement like SwiftKey, it is not the end of the world.

I recently put Cyanogenmod on my droid razr and actually got geeked out on my phone again. Everything just works like it should. The ROMs that come from the phone companies are bloated and inefficient. Do not make the mistake of judging the Android ecosystem by what you see in the stores.

There are even some useful utilities for Android. (http://ultimatepeter.com/freakin-cool-hacking-apps-for-android/)

Bluetooth Keyboard. http://www.logitech.com/en-us/... is what I use
Or you could get something much cheaper like this: http://www.amazon.com/Bluetoot...
There are also cell phone cases with integrated Bluetooth keyboards to turn many phones into "sliders".

Second of all, all you parents in the room, all this bitching about poor teachers is a pretty recent thing

No, it's not. It goes back at least as far as when I was a kid in the 70's - long before cell phones, widespread 'drugging up', or home video game systems.

It goes back to at least the 1950's. Why Johnny Can't Read was a national bestseller in 1955. When Sputnik was launched In 1957, teachers were blamed for letting the Russians beat us into space.

We look forward to your publication of the flaws you have discovered in Dr. Mann's math. Ah, but you can't publish them, because you're just making this stuff up. Or is it because every single reviewer for every scientific journal is a member of a deep conspiracy to undermine the fossil fuel industry because ... well if you have to ask you don't understand how these dark conspiracies work!

Here's Mann's new book on The Hockey Stick and the Climate Wars.

at a time when income disparity is at an all-time high in about the last 100 years. tom perkins is worried about some future backlash against the rich, while the political system has already sold out most of the public if anything does happen, when push comes to shove, he'll be able to take his money with him to singapore or hong kong like the russian oligarchs took theirs to london.

lol, he's written books
http://www.amazon.com/Sex-Sing...
how self-absorbed do you have to be to write this?

There's an alphabet book themed with "retro" items.

Japan gives a lot of aid and comfort to the other thug nations. It's like helping someone dump a body and cover their tracks.

Japan has long been one of the more generous nations for foreign aid and its military has been pretty much limited to almost purely national defense of Japan itself since WW2. Although they can be highly competitive in business, I think it is hard to build a good case that Japan is currently a "thug" nation. Taco Cowboy's comment I can understand as Chinese anti-Japanese sentiment that has existed since at least the 1930s. But yours?

China and Russia aren't especially friendly to Japan, whereas the US is. That leaves you portraying the US and UK as thugs, but not necessarily China or Russia. (The current Chinese regime is the same one that killed 60,000,000 of its own people and is trying to seize territory held by Japan even while it (China) is trying to claim the entire South China Sea as its territory, stepping on its neighbors.)

So you are basically condemning your own country again, seemingly above others, and it isn't clear why. The influence of school reading assignments, perhaps? It's a pity that contemporary American education tends to be unfavorable towards some views.

American History 101

National Review Online:So how different is your history of the United States from, say, Howard Zinn’s?

Larry Schweikart: They are as different as night and day. We assume that people usually mean what they say; that they don’t always have hidden motivations; and that ideas are more important than “class” or “race” or “gender.” Under more normal times, our book would simply be entitled, A History of the United States, because it is accurate.

NRO:So a “Patriot’s Guide” isn’t all good?

Schweikart: Absolutely not. As we say in the intro/jacket flap, we reject “My Country, Right or Wrong,” but we equally reject “My Country, Always Wrong.” I think you’ll find us quite critical of such aspects of our past-such as the Founders’ unwillingness to actually act on slavery on at least three separate occasions; or about Teddy Roosevelt’s paternalistic regulations and his anti-business policies. On the other hand, as conservatives, we nevertheless destroy the myth that FDR “knew” about the Pearl Harbor attack in advance. Instead, we try to always put the past in the context of the time–why did people act then as they did, and was that typical?

History Lies

Japan gives a lot of aid and comfort to the other thug nations. It's like helping someone dump a body and cover their tracks.

Japan has long been one of the more generous nations for foreign aid and its military has been pretty much limited to almost purely national defense of Japan itself since WW2. Although they can be highly competitive in business, I think it is hard to build a good case that Japan is currently a "thug" nation. Taco Cowboy's comment I can understand as Chinese anti-Japanese sentiment that has existed since at least the 1930s. But yours?

China and Russia aren't especially friendly to Japan, whereas the US is. That leaves you portraying the US and UK as thugs, but not necessarily China or Russia. (The current Chinese regime is the same one that killed 60,000,000 of its own people and is trying to seize territory held by Japan even while it (China) is trying to claim the entire South China Sea as its territory, stepping on its neighbors.)

So you are basically condemning your own country again, seemingly above others, and it isn't clear why. The influence of school reading assignments, perhaps? It's a pity that contemporary American education tends to be unfavorable towards some views.

American History 101

National Review Online:So how different is your history of the United States from, say, Howard Zinn’s?

Larry Schweikart: They are as different as night and day. We assume that people usually mean what they say; that they don’t always have hidden motivations; and that ideas are more important than “class” or “race” or “gender.” Under more normal times, our book would simply be entitled, A History of the United States, because it is accurate.

NRO:So a “Patriot’s Guide” isn’t all good?

Schweikart: Absolutely not. As we say in the intro/jacket flap, we reject “My Country, Right or Wrong,” but we equally reject “My Country, Always Wrong.” I think you’ll find us quite critical of such aspects of our past-such as the Founders’ unwillingness to actually act on slavery on at least three separate occasions; or about Teddy Roosevelt’s paternalistic regulations and his anti-business policies. On the other hand, as conservatives, we nevertheless destroy the myth that FDR “knew” about the Pearl Harbor attack in advance. Instead, we try to always put the past in the context of the time–why did people act then as they did, and was that typical?

History Lies

32 gigabytes in kit form. You'll need four slots. Installation is trivial.

I like the idea of lending e-readers in *addition* to books. XO Tablet is $125. Comparable to the cost of 10-20 midrange books, but it does provide free access to the 40,000 books on Project Gutenberg. My thinking was mostly that WiFi deployment is cheaper than a) routing ethernet cables everywhere and b) making desktop space for everyone with a device. Books would also require grant money.

The trick in my opinion is to get access to a cheap device that is not locked to any particular content ecosystem.

There are much cheaper readers than that. For example, the low-end Nook units. And, unless they've removed functionality, it's quite easy to get content in a variety of formats into them. The standard Nook format is epub, which is available direct from Gutenberg.

I think that some may be assuming that a WiFi device wouldn't be appropriate for lending to homes without WiFi, but that's not really true. Assuming you do retain a physical library, as long as it has WiFi, it really doesn't take appreciably longer to download a book and carry it home than it does to check out a physical book. You don't need WiFi to read the book, only to transfer it.

Quote from http://www.amazon.com/kindle-f...:

All-New Fire OS "Mojito"

New Kindle Fire tablets are powered by the latest version of Fire OS—Fire OS 3.0 "Mojito", which starts with Android and adds cloud services

As far as I understood the restrictions, they could use the word Android, but they can't use the Google logo or Google Apps (Mail, Maps and others) without Googles permission. For Samsung, they might not be allowed to fork Android, but they do invest in Tizen. I'm looking forward to finally see the first devices.

Tizen is not an Android fork. Tizen is built on Linux and the project resides within Linux Foundation. So, Samsung building Tizen phones doesn't break their agreement to abide by Google's OHA requirements.

I have been meaning to research the point about depression, whether there is any real evidence for it and if biographers and others have shed any light on it.

I suggest reading this book, it addresses the topic. You should be able to get it at a library.

The contrasts in music may be simply devices, except the intensity of the "dark" passages do point to something experienced I think.

That's always a possibility, but then you run into the question, why did he name it "melancholy" if the music has nothing to do with "melancholy"? So many, if not all, of Beethoven's works incorporate emotions........

All-New Fire OS "Mojito"

New Kindle Fire tablets are powered by the latest version of Fire OS—Fire OS 3.0 "Mojito", which starts with Android and adds cloud services

As far as I understood the restrictions, they could use the word Android, but they can't use the Google logo or Google Apps (Mail, Maps and others) without Googles permission. For Samsung, they might not be allowed to fork Android, but they do invest in Tizen. I'm looking forward to finally see the first devices.

I like the idea of lending e-readers in *addition* to books. XO Tablet is $125. Comparable to the cost of 10-20 midrange books, but it does provide free access to the 40,000 books on Project Gutenberg. My thinking was mostly that WiFi deployment is cheaper than a) routing ethernet cables everywhere and b) making desktop space for everyone with a device. Books would also require grant money.

The trick in my opinion is to get access to a cheap device that is not locked to any particular content ecosystem.

an Anonymous Coward plaintively asked:

Will there ever be a President that I can respect?

Yes.

This may surprise a lot of people in Germany, but in the US the general rule is, you don't have any vacation days and can't afford to take time off of work to see a doctor.

And if you do take time off of work to get well and figure out how to pay a doctor and any treatment they might suggest, it's entirely possible that, upon attempting to return to work, you find yourself jobless.

Therefore, again generally, we tend to take as many over-the-counter drugs as we can to begin feeling half-way human so we can keep working every day even if it kills us and those around us (which, according to TFA, it does).

I wish I had mod points for you. Too bad there is no +5 Insightful/Sad Truth.

This may surprise a lot of people in Germany, but in the US the general rule is, you don't have any vacation days and can't afford to take time off of work to see a doctor.

And if you do take time off of work to get well and figure out how to pay a doctor and any treatment they might suggest, it's entirely possible that, upon attempting to return to work, you find yourself jobless.

Therefore, again generally, we tend to take as many over-the-counter drugs as we can to begin feeling half-way human so we can keep working every day even if it kills us and those around us (which, according to TFA, it does).

Lest you think I was kidding about shielded fiber cable with gold plated connectors: http://www.amazon.com/Cable-Ma...

But it's only $8.99, so it's kind of difficult to mock it mercilessly.

> is going to seem like voodoo no matter how elegantly it is coded.

Mostly true, however, beautiful and simple code makes it a helluva lot easier to understand ! Quicksort isn't _that_ difficult to write from the ground up if you understand the i) the theory, and ii) can apply it.

* Three Beautiful Quicksorts -- The most beautiful code I never wrote.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...

From

* Beautiful Code: Leading Programmers Explain How They Think (Theory in Practice (O'Reilly)) [Kindle Edition]
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0026...

Dude, they're tablets. You're supposed to carry them around in your pocket and use them when you're not at a desk.

I'll thank you not to tell me what I'm *SUPPOSED* to do with my computers. But on that note, you must be HUGE if 7" tablets fit in your pockets.

Why would anyone in their right mind want a USB port and RJ45 port on a 7" tablet?

Same reason someone would want them on a laptop... And why are we talking about 7" tablets? How about 10 and 13" tablets?

Why this insane desire to build 'one size fits all', when it just results in a horrible kludge that no-one wants?

There is no kludge here. Phones and tablets already have USB ports, but they're of the "micro" variety, which requires carrying around an adapter cable. Phones and tablets already have networking, but it's of the wireless kind, eliminating numerous options to hook-up to it. Adding these ports would neither make the hardware nor software any more complicated. I can't imagine how you can call that a kludge, other than your having no clue what the term means.

And looky here! Here's at least 700+ people who wanted a full USB-A port on their tablets, but had to settle for carrying an adapter cable instead:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B005F...

In fact the number of buyers is surely at least in the tens of thousands.

How about this guy?

http://www.amazon.com/Endless-Design-Lighting-System-Freezers/dp/B008BC50CC/ref=sr_1_1?m=ATVPDKIKX0DER

Shipping weight is over a ton, shipping is free(!) but it cannot be gift-wrapped.

What is with /. these days.. Do you gusy check ebay and take your first price?? Click though to
http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B001RTSQBS/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&condition=new

And you will find options for $7 + $6 postage or even less

A significant portion of the group "Christians" can't read well enough to read their holy book, even if they wanted to, let alone comprehend it.

Most, if not all, holy books cannot be comprehended even if you know the language and can read the words. The books are just too illogical, and they are never written in a plain, simple language. Quite contrary to that ideal, they are written from multiple, conflicting viewpoints, and they depict the same events differently, and they use archaic phrases. Translation further destroyed some of the original content. This is why every priest has to "explain" what this or that passage means; his explanation, of course, is subjective.

If you are looking for a holy book that is consistent, you may pick this one up.

Ah yeah, the SEO-style Web 3.0 URLs, where you guess which part is actually significant. :) On Amazon, the /dp/00000000 part is the real URL, and the /Seo-Friendly-Title-Inserted-Here/ part is SEO-bait garbage that's completely ignored from a technical perspective. So you can leave it out if you want, and http://www.amazon.com/dp/1782167021/ works. But including only the SEO-bait part of the URL doesn't work, because it doesn't successfully locate resources.

Working URL of the book.
Sorry about that.

you could buy the feet alone from apple support for $25. link
a bunch on amazon prime for under $10. link

You might have a look at that too :)
It's still fairly basic though, but it does not contain any of the old opengl cruft.

OpenGL's documentation is poorly written where it's needed most and most of the examples you find online are really old, targeted at hardware that was successfully phased out several years ago.

Huge problem with books, too. Most OpenGL books are still about the old fixed-function, immediate-mode pipeline, and if they introduce "modern OpenGL" at all, it's somewhere later in the book as an advanced feature. Partly this is because many of them serve sort of double-duty, as intro-to-graphics and intro-to-OpenGL textbooks, and immediate mode with fixed-function pipeline actually is easier to use pedagogically if your goal is to introduce people to graphics and the OpenGL code is just an example, not intended for production. But retained mode and shaders is not an "advanced feature" anymore from a coding perspective, just the way things are done.

This is even true in new editions of textbooks, because publishers are lazy and often don't really update the textbook. Therefore a (c) 2012 book might still be >85% full of early-2000s content, depending on the book. The only two OpenGL books I know of, besides giant reference tomes, that take a "modern OpenGL" approach through-and-through, are the sixth edition of Interactive Computer Graphics (which is actually revised), and Learning Modern 3D Graphics Programming , a work-in-progress textbook that's been slowly appearing online over the past two years (sections I-IV are now complete, V and VI still being written).

Many people, including me, would argue that Carla Bley & Paul Haines' Escalator Over the Hill is a work of genius.

My definition of genius in a work is that it must contain aspects that can't be learned or explained. You're listening, watching, or reading along and thinking "yes, I understand how that follows now that it's been shown to me" -- this is merely brilliant levels of skill -- and then there comes a passage that sets you back thinking "woah, what just happened there?"

Claude Debussy's music is full of these moments, even when you understand its predecessors and influences like Chausson. Most of Hector Berlioz's compositions are tedious at best, but the 2/4 bars in his Roman Carnival Overture take a logical sequence of developing intensity beyond what can be sensibly explained by any textbook in a way that astonishes me every time I hear it.

Pablo Picasso is reported to have said "I never know when the spark of genius will strike me, but I make sure that I'm in front of an easel with a brush in my hand when it does."

All the practice in the world can't buy these kinds of moments, but it can give you the confidence to take them when they appear, and the skill to execute them with precision. You don't have to be a genius to produce genius works, but it helps.

Question...why would you want to? I have run Win 7 on a 2003 Sempron with 1Gb of RAM, it ran just fine. I'm typing this on a 2007 1.8Ghz C2D with 3Gb of RAM and Win 7, again runs just fine. If your machine is sooooo old it can't run Win 7? Then its most likely so old its not worth having.

My advice in that case, which usually applies to socket 478 P4s (which are insane power pigs as is all the P4 line from Prescott through Pentium D) would be to change out the board for an AMD E350 which can be had anywhere from $70-$85 depending on which features you want, gives you a dual core with HD6310 that runs rings around the Pentium 4/D and even does 1080P over HDMI, supports up to 8Gb of RAM and best of all the board uses less under full loads than a socket 478 does idling. You can even keep your old drives by simply getting one with a PCI slot and using a PCI to IDE adapter. I have done this conversion for several customers and its easy, fast,lowers the hell out of the power bill, and turns a big noisy P4 office box into a whisper quiet system. Its really a crazy good deal and even has VM support and XP drivers if you want to keep XP as a VM or dual boot for some older software.

As for TFA? We've been complaining about this bug for years! Better late than never but it would have been nice if this would have came out half a decade ago instead of right before EOL. BTW for those saying it was only "recently introduced" might want to look up "SVCHOSTS eats 100% CPU" as you'll find that bug showing up off and on since 2005.

And unless you're one of those borderline obsessed people who have to collect every single video or photo of their favorite porn star, sending them gifts and whatnot...
Paying for it is simply not the path of least resistance.

FFS... whenever I use someone else's computer, without all the add blockers I have on my own, I can't seem to open a torrent search engine without being recommended at least a window or two of porn.
It has come down to it that the path of lesser resistance for NO porn practically does not exist any more.

if you read your link carefully, you'd see GE is phasing those out, they have problems and are replacing them with http://www.amazon.com/GE-Lighting-97659-replacement-825-Lumen/dp/B001RTSQBS/ref=dp_ob_title_hi

which are on sale now but note the list price is $35 for that 8 pack

Also, the President is not allowed to know everything about what the secret agencies do. There have been many examples of that.

The U.S. government has engaged in violence each year for more than 100 years, to make a profit for a few. Anyone desiring more information about that can, for example, read these highly rated books:

Overthrow: America's century of regime change from Hawaii to Iraq by Stephen Kinzer

The brothers: John Foster Dulles, Allen Dulles, and their secret world war by Stephen Kinzer

Also, the President is not allowed to know everything about what the secret agencies do. There have been many examples of that.

The U.S. government has engaged in violence each year for more than 100 years, to make a profit for a few. Anyone desiring more information about that can, for example, read these highly rated books:

Overthrow: America's century of regime change from Hawaii to Iraq by Stephen Kinzer

The brothers: John Foster Dulles, Allen Dulles, and their secret world war by Stephen Kinzer

... I don't see this covered in any of the mainstream media reports, but the 'drone' involved was a pink 'barbie' knockoff with no video capability. It's a $25 dollar think-geek type mini gyro. I'm amazed it made it to the 2nd floor window of a home outside. No wonder it crashed, those things have the stability of a paper airplane thrown into a fan.

Example of it:
http://www.amazon.com/33013-Concept-Alloy-Helicopter-Light/dp/B009VCHVJQ/ref=sr_1_3?s=toys-and-games&ie=UTF8&qid=1389974986&sr=1-3&keywords=pink+gyro

"Obviously the pilot of the drone had some surprise..."

Obviously the pilot couldn't see you because there's no cameras on it, so I doubt she was surprised you looked out the window....

...because the drone wheeled around and crashed ..."

They do that a lot.

The irony here is Feinstein over dramatization of this event given what she authorizes on the SIC. Using this incident to call for stricter drone laws is like being hit by a paper airplane and calling for the FAA to investigate.

Simple reason... http://www.amazon.com/Haribo-Gummy-Candy-Sugarless-5-Pound/dp/B000EVQWKC (check the reviews)

This whole affair of what platforms to use puzzles me greatly. I am of the opinion that the selection process has everything to do with politics and little to do with substance.

I feel a lot of it has to do with a corporate mentality of holding everything blameless with contracts which have to be signed off on before the business will do anything. "Hold Harmless" seems the byword of the day.

I have tried to use Micrium's uC/OS products, based mostly on their certifications for mission critical affairs such as aircraft and life support . For me, this thing is like a "Super Arduino" for embedded applications.

Business will pay for people to play down everything the "leadership" type does not understand, and personal experience tells me that if I do not recommend Microsoft, I will not get the job. Regardless of my belief and experiences to the contrary. Its been my observation that once one gets high enough in corporate hierarchy, one is forced to play CYA, and the only way to play is find someone else to pin the blame on if things go sour - better yet be able to blame someone big - so the guy who hired them does not take the fall for it.

There seems to be a trivial amount of effort expended to mitigate the probability of a breach in the first place.

I am not trying to shill for Micrium - I just like their product and their philosophies of supporting an OS. It is all quite well documented ( link to the book I use all the time ).

NetBurners run this code. This had been the most robust system I have ever studied, yet I find few people who are willing to let me implement it - and for now it runs on a machine I have for my own edification.

My own feeling if anyone wants to hack a bank ATM, go for it. No one's responsible, its just another ledger entry to the bank. If the thing gets too out of hand, the government will make it up to them.

http://www.amazon.com/secret-under-sea-gordon-dickson/dp/0590085883/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1389883679&sr=8-1&keywords=secret+under+the+sea

Secret Under The Sea, a sci-fi children's book from the early 60's predicted a scuba mask that extracted O2 from ocean water so that people could work for extended periods underwater -- of course in the book, the protagonist lives in a dome-shaped facility at the bottom of the ocean, something we definitely don't have and won't for another 100 years at least.

Yes. Also, when they manage to completely ban incandescent bulbs in the EU (or they just stop making them, even the inefficient long life ones) I am buying a few boxes or them and connecting a resistor in series to drop the voltage to make the bulb last longer. With 1.7kW base load (computers and bitcoin miners, another ~600W for AC in the summer) I won't notice the difference in used electricity.

Why would you want to do that? Have you looked at new high quality LED lights? If you dim your 100W incandescent down to where it's only putting out 75W or so of light, you could replace that with a 13W LED and get equivalent light. At 3 hours/day, that 13W LED is saving you about 100KWh/year, or $12 if you're paying 12 cents/KWh, or over $20 in some EU countries.

So you may not notice $12 per lamp in your already high electric bill, but you're still paying for it whether you notice it or not.

You'd need a pretty high wattage resistor and maybe a heatsink to drop the voltage - if you want to drop the voltage by 10%, then you need a 10W resistor. They used to sell little "buttons" that fit in light sockets to increase live span that was just a diode that acted as a half-wave rectifier to reduce the effective voltage at the bulb. Since it's a diode and not a resistor, it doesn't dissipate significant amounts of power. Looks like someone still sells them: http://www.amazon.com/Button-Makes-Bulbs-Longer-Candelabra/dp/B000HMBLAO

If you're going down that path you have some reading to do.

how about a 10W LED flood light for $18? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004DDQK0O/

I may stand corrected on that point. These look good and at a much lower price than Ive seen. Clearly LED solutions are coming down in price for many specialty applications. LED floods do have generally poorer dispersion patterns but I did say 'floods' rather than 'spots'. But I'll buy a few of these and try them out. Thanks for the link.

which are known for excessively strong anti-conservative leanings

I'm always amused when conservatives appeal to the "they're just biased" defense when defending their own constructed world of spin. Saying that the CBC has an obvious liberal bias flies in the face of academic media analysis, but I'm sure you think the universities are "just biased" too. And you have the truth.

It seems that Idiot America has come to Canada.

http://www.amazon.com/GE-13-Watt-Energy-SmartTM-replacement/dp/B000NISDNU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1389741214&sr=8-1&keywords=CFL

LED floodlights are crazy-stupid expensive.

Just because your local home center feels like ripping you off, does not make the technology any more or less expensive...

You didn't say what power you use, but how about a 10W LED flood light for $18?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004DDQK0O/

A bit less? LEDs use 1/20th as much power as incandescents.

Incandescents don't matter when you're comparing LED and CFL.
A common "100W" equivalent CFL produces 1750 lumens for 26 watts.
A "100W" equivalent LED produces 1675 lumens for 20 watts.
A true 100W incandescent is 1710

First: LEDs are approximately 5 times as efficient as Incandescent, CFL approximately 4 times as efficient. It wasn't that long ago that when I did the calcs at a store that they came out even, or even a little worse for the LEDs. There have been some inovations that increased LED efficiency since then.

Still:
Run a 100W bulb for 10k hours@$.15 per kwh and it'll run $150
Run a 26W CFL for the same time and it'll be $39.
Run a 20W LED and it'll be $30

When you look at the power savings - $110 when switching to a CFL, $9 if you upgrade from a CFL to LED. At over an OOM less power saved counts as 'a bit' to me in comparison. When you're looking at $2.27 per bulb for the CFL and $48 for the LED, consider that you're looking at saving $22.50 over the 25k hour life of the LED. You'll also need 3 CFLs(8k hour life vs 25k), amounting to about $30 saved, meaning you're still $18 in the hole for buying the LED(at least for now).
I like some LED advantages - generally stronger, better cold performance, etc... But I'll be honest - I still have 2 CFLs from the last multipack I bought, I'm going to use those up before I go buying LED lights. Hopefully they'll have some nice fixtures I can install that are designed for LEDs by then.

A bit less? LEDs use 1/20th as much power as incandescents.

Incandescents don't matter when you're comparing LED and CFL.
A common "100W" equivalent CFL produces 1750 lumens for 26 watts.
A "100W" equivalent LED produces 1675 lumens for 20 watts.
A true 100W incandescent is 1710

First: LEDs are approximately 5 times as efficient as Incandescent, CFL approximately 4 times as efficient. It wasn't that long ago that when I did the calcs at a store that they came out even, or even a little worse for the LEDs. There have been some inovations that increased LED efficiency since then.

Still:
Run a 100W bulb for 10k hours@$.15 per kwh and it'll run $150
Run a 26W CFL for the same time and it'll be $39.
Run a 20W LED and it'll be $30

When you look at the power savings - $110 when switching to a CFL, $9 if you upgrade from a CFL to LED. At over an OOM less power saved counts as 'a bit' to me in comparison. When you're looking at $2.27 per bulb for the CFL and $48 for the LED, consider that you're looking at saving $22.50 over the 25k hour life of the LED. You'll also need 3 CFLs(8k hour life vs 25k), amounting to about $30 saved, meaning you're still $18 in the hole for buying the LED(at least for now).
I like some LED advantages - generally stronger, better cold performance, etc... But I'll be honest - I still have 2 CFLs from the last multipack I bought, I'm going to use those up before I go buying LED lights. Hopefully they'll have some nice fixtures I can install that are designed for LEDs by then.

A bit less? LEDs use 1/20th as much power as incandescents.

Incandescents don't matter when you're comparing LED and CFL.
A common "100W" equivalent CFL produces 1750 lumens for 26 watts.
A "100W" equivalent LED produces 1675 lumens for 20 watts.
A true 100W incandescent is 1710

First: LEDs are approximately 5 times as efficient as Incandescent, CFL approximately 4 times as efficient. It wasn't that long ago that when I did the calcs at a store that they came out even, or even a little worse for the LEDs. There have been some inovations that increased LED efficiency since then.

Still:
Run a 100W bulb for 10k hours@$.15 per kwh and it'll run $150
Run a 26W CFL for the same time and it'll be $39.
Run a 20W LED and it'll be $30

When you look at the power savings - $110 when switching to a CFL, $9 if you upgrade from a CFL to LED. At over an OOM less power saved counts as 'a bit' to me in comparison. When you're looking at $2.27 per bulb for the CFL and $48 for the LED, consider that you're looking at saving $22.50 over the 25k hour life of the LED. You'll also need 3 CFLs(8k hour life vs 25k), amounting to about $30 saved, meaning you're still $18 in the hole for buying the LED(at least for now).
I like some LED advantages - generally stronger, better cold performance, etc... But I'll be honest - I still have 2 CFLs from the last multipack I bought, I'm going to use those up before I go buying LED lights. Hopefully they'll have some nice fixtures I can install that are designed for LEDs by then.

One thing to realize about 'rough service' type bulbs is that they're even LESS efficient at creating light than regular bulbs since part of making them last that long is to make the filament thicker. Therefore it produces more infrared light.

Consider that the Newcandescent produces 1094 lumens while the 26 Watt CFLs produce 1750. Regular 100 watts are 1690

Rough Service: .22 cents per lumen - .22 cents per lumen per 10k hours. 10.94 lumens per watt - 15M 'lumen-hours'*, 1.4k kwh, $140 over life of bulb@$.1per kwh
CFL: .13 cents - 16 cents per 10k, 67.3 lumens per watt - 223 kwh, $22.30
Traditional: .07 cents per lumen (but only last ~750 hours). .93 per 10k hours. 16.9 lumens per watt - 888 kwh, $88.80

Roughly speaking, what you're saving in bulb replacement for the 'rough service' bulb you're more than paying for in electricity, which is why you normally used the 750 hour life ones - The $10.65 you save per 1500 lumens going with the rough service bulb cost you $51.20 in extra electricity costs.

I'm not so much green as cheap.

*10k hours times 1.5k lumens, or roughly 1 of these bulbs, brightness adjusted to average.

One thing to realize about 'rough service' type bulbs is that they're even LESS efficient at creating light than regular bulbs since part of making them last that long is to make the filament thicker. Therefore it produces more infrared light.

Consider that the Newcandescent produces 1094 lumens while the 26 Watt CFLs produce 1750. Regular 100 watts are 1690

Rough Service: .22 cents per lumen - .22 cents per lumen per 10k hours. 10.94 lumens per watt - 15M 'lumen-hours'*, 1.4k kwh, $140 over life of bulb@$.1per kwh
CFL: .13 cents - 16 cents per 10k, 67.3 lumens per watt - 223 kwh, $22.30
Traditional: .07 cents per lumen (but only last ~750 hours). .93 per 10k hours. 16.9 lumens per watt - 888 kwh, $88.80

Roughly speaking, what you're saving in bulb replacement for the 'rough service' bulb you're more than paying for in electricity, which is why you normally used the 750 hour life ones - The $10.65 you save per 1500 lumens going with the rough service bulb cost you $51.20 in extra electricity costs.

I'm not so much green as cheap.

*10k hours times 1.5k lumens, or roughly 1 of these bulbs, brightness adjusted to average.

One thing to realize about 'rough service' type bulbs is that they're even LESS efficient at creating light than regular bulbs since part of making them last that long is to make the filament thicker. Therefore it produces more infrared light.

Consider that the Newcandescent produces 1094 lumens while the 26 Watt CFLs produce 1750. Regular 100 watts are 1690

Rough Service: .22 cents per lumen - .22 cents per lumen per 10k hours. 10.94 lumens per watt - 15M 'lumen-hours'*, 1.4k kwh, $140 over life of bulb@$.1per kwh
CFL: .13 cents - 16 cents per 10k, 67.3 lumens per watt - 223 kwh, $22.30
Traditional: .07 cents per lumen (but only last ~750 hours). .93 per 10k hours. 16.9 lumens per watt - 888 kwh, $88.80

Roughly speaking, what you're saving in bulb replacement for the 'rough service' bulb you're more than paying for in electricity, which is why you normally used the 750 hour life ones - The $10.65 you save per 1500 lumens going with the rough service bulb cost you $51.20 in extra electricity costs.

I'm not so much green as cheap.

*10k hours times 1.5k lumens, or roughly 1 of these bulbs, brightness adjusted to average.

Please don't avoid the overall issue. There are people who control the U.S. government who make huge amounts of easy money by encouraging and causing and engaging in violence.

The U.S. government has engaged in violence each year for more than 100 years, to make a profit for a few. Anyone desiring more information about that can, for example, read these highly rated books:

Overthrow: America's century of regime change from Hawaii to Iraq
by Stephen Kinzer

The brothers: John Foster Dulles, Allen Dulles, and their secret world war
by Stephen Kinzer