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Here ya go: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071... Here's another: https://www.cultofmac.com/4376...

couldn't care less. There's absolutely no penalties for getting caught and trademark/patent protection in these kinds of product categories is nonexistent due to the cost of prosecuting them.

Absolutely. I've complained multiple times about rose seeds being sold on Amazon. Roses are not grown from seeds! These ones are obvious frauds, yet nothing seems to convince Amazon to take them down.

Dude you just have to trivially search. Why, here's something that's OBVIOUSLY a Google chromecast dongle:

https://www.amazon.com/Miracas...

Oh. Wait.... Ah, I mean this one:

https://www.amazon.com/Display...

Oh, no. Hang on... AH THIS ONE!

https://www.amazon.com/Cymocho...

See the G? Clearly that's Google.

Dude you just have to trivially search. Why, here's something that's OBVIOUSLY a Google chromecast dongle:

https://www.amazon.com/Miracas...

Oh. Wait.... Ah, I mean this one:

https://www.amazon.com/Display...

Oh, no. Hang on... AH THIS ONE!

https://www.amazon.com/Cymocho...

See the G? Clearly that's Google.

Dude you just have to trivially search. Why, here's something that's OBVIOUSLY a Google chromecast dongle:

https://www.amazon.com/Miracas...

Oh. Wait.... Ah, I mean this one:

https://www.amazon.com/Display...

Oh, no. Hang on... AH THIS ONE!

https://www.amazon.com/Cymocho...

See the G? Clearly that's Google.

Amazonâ(TM)s behavior has been sleazy. Amazon canâ(TM)t claim to be a "Earth's Most Customer-Centric Company" like there slogan says.

What theyâ(TM)ve done with Chromecasts is likely illegal. Amazon banned their 3rd party resellers from listing legitimate Chromecasts on their and the let their search results get flooded with knock offs. https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/s...

I'm sure Ella Minnow Pea was consulted. https://www.amazon.com/Ella-Mi...

MPAA is a bunch of thugs just like the RIAA!

de-creimerified link (non-amazon affiliate):

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B015...

I have virtualbox installed on my hacked celes (Samsung chromebook 3). It is nothing to write home to mommy about, but it can run another OS fairly well, all things considered.

To be fair though, the Celes has a celeron CPU, instead of the more "atom like" cpus in most other intel chromebooks.

If you want one that is better suited to virtualization/daily driving, you want this guy (especially if you want to upgrade the internal storage to something more reliable than eMMC/microSD)

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B015...

Features an i3 processor, with NGFF SSD socket.

https://www.amazon.com/Element...

I wrote a book about it, for a very similar purpose as yours, and for good reason: focusing on fixing bugs really seems to clean up programming style faster than anything else.

A couple of years ago I took a MOOC called "systematic program design."
Even though I was a self tough programmer and had been programing for 25 years,
i still learned something new.

They used this book
https://www.amazon.com/How-Des...
I recommend you check it out and google the course name.

Sadly there's not exactly a good open source or otherwise no-cost solution but this would work very well for HOAs if only we could get more to use it.

Less than $10 from Amazon https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01A...

Yes, I do think this has gone too far. The cops and 911 operator should be EXECUTED for causing needless deaths.

If you don't understand how I derived my numbers by now, you never will...

I was being polite. It's clear you have no idea what you're talking about. I explained how I got my numbers, which you're unable to contracdict. You refused to explain yours.

I know *exactly* how your numbers are derived: you pulled them out of your arse.

How so?

I explained that, speaking hypothetically, if you had a 15" 2016/2017 MBP, which has 4 USB-C/TB3 Ports, and you plugged 1 of those OWC 13-Port TB3 Docks into EACH of the 4 Ports, you could have a MacBook Pro with FIFTY-TWO Simultaneous Legacy I/O Ports.

In reality, since 2 of the USB-C/TB3 Ports share the same 40 Gbps TB Controller in the Mac, I am not actually SURE you could realize ALL of the I/O provided by those 13 * 4 Ports Simultaneously (especially when it comes to the video fan-out, unless you are willing to restrict your external displays to 4K resolution each); but I saw nothing in the OWC Dock's admittedly sparse spec-sheet that had any relevant "asterisks" or limitations mentioned in that regard.

So, you already HAVE a Dongle. And who the HELL needs 4X HDMI on their Laptop, as standard Ports?!?

Odd type of 4k. 4k HDMI out of the box. It only has one port.

LOL! My bad!!! I must've misread "4K as 4X". That makes MUCH more sense!!!

Well, then there are like a ZILLION solutions for a single 4K HDMI out available on Amazon, clear down to around $13.

And you think that the MacBook Pro doesn't have WiFi? It has both WiFi and Bluetooth for "Wireless". So?

I said WWAN, not WLAN.

So you are saying that the ThinkPad has a built-in LTE MODEM?

Meh. The few times I would find myself out of reach of WiFi with my laptop, I would simply use my iPhone as a HotSpot. Not worth having to have a separate Cell data plan (or another user on a family-type plan) for the very few times I would need that.

Horses for courses. If I were a building contractor, out of a "job-site" a lot, built in LTE might be a handy feature. But I notice it is still relatively slow, compared to piggy-backing off of the 4G LTE MODEM in my iPhone.

https://support.lenovo.com/us/...

And so, for the equivalent of your Thinkpad's Ethernet Dongle (you're the one that admitted it!)

*if* you want wired ethernet. I never carry round a wired ethernet for my MBP, and my SO never carries around wired ethernet for the thinkpad.

you can carry a USB-C Dock that has 3 USB 3.0 Ports, an SD/microSD card slot, Gigabit Ethernet Port (RJ-45), an Audio I/O Jack, a USB-C "Charging Port" and 4K HDMI. For $60

So, I'd have to carry around a much much larger dongle than the one I'd never carry ronud and that gives me a bunch of stuff I don't need on the road. A USB-C dock is a fine and useful thing and after your sales pitch I'm considering one for my desk now. However, I don't want to carry around the extra stuff.

Take a look around on Amazon. There are ALL manner of Docks, from those that have just a few ports, like this one:

2 USB 3.0 Ports and a 4K HDMI Port. Looks to be about 2" square. $20:

https://www.amazon.com/USB-HDM...

This one has 2 USB 2.0 Ports, Gig E, 4k HDMI, and a USB-C Power-Passthrough Port. 2.7" x 3.1". $40

https://www.amazon.com/Cable-M...

This is even better! For the same $40, you can have 3 USB 3.0 Ports, 4K HDMI, a 60W Power Passthru, and an SD/MicroSD Card Reader. And it is STILL only 3.5" X 2.4" :

https://www.amazon.com/AUKEY-M... ..an

If you don't understand how I derived my numbers by now, you never will...

I was being polite. It's clear you have no idea what you're talking about. I explained how I got my numbers, which you're unable to contracdict. You refused to explain yours.

I know *exactly* how your numbers are derived: you pulled them out of your arse.

How so?

I explained that, speaking hypothetically, if you had a 15" 2016/2017 MBP, which has 4 USB-C/TB3 Ports, and you plugged 1 of those OWC 13-Port TB3 Docks into EACH of the 4 Ports, you could have a MacBook Pro with FIFTY-TWO Simultaneous Legacy I/O Ports.

In reality, since 2 of the USB-C/TB3 Ports share the same 40 Gbps TB Controller in the Mac, I am not actually SURE you could realize ALL of the I/O provided by those 13 * 4 Ports Simultaneously (especially when it comes to the video fan-out, unless you are willing to restrict your external displays to 4K resolution each); but I saw nothing in the OWC Dock's admittedly sparse spec-sheet that had any relevant "asterisks" or limitations mentioned in that regard.

So, you already HAVE a Dongle. And who the HELL needs 4X HDMI on their Laptop, as standard Ports?!?

Odd type of 4k. 4k HDMI out of the box. It only has one port.

LOL! My bad!!! I must've misread "4K as 4X". That makes MUCH more sense!!!

Well, then there are like a ZILLION solutions for a single 4K HDMI out available on Amazon, clear down to around $13.

And you think that the MacBook Pro doesn't have WiFi? It has both WiFi and Bluetooth for "Wireless". So?

I said WWAN, not WLAN.

So you are saying that the ThinkPad has a built-in LTE MODEM?

Meh. The few times I would find myself out of reach of WiFi with my laptop, I would simply use my iPhone as a HotSpot. Not worth having to have a separate Cell data plan (or another user on a family-type plan) for the very few times I would need that.

Horses for courses. If I were a building contractor, out of a "job-site" a lot, built in LTE might be a handy feature. But I notice it is still relatively slow, compared to piggy-backing off of the 4G LTE MODEM in my iPhone.

https://support.lenovo.com/us/...

And so, for the equivalent of your Thinkpad's Ethernet Dongle (you're the one that admitted it!)

*if* you want wired ethernet. I never carry round a wired ethernet for my MBP, and my SO never carries around wired ethernet for the thinkpad.

you can carry a USB-C Dock that has 3 USB 3.0 Ports, an SD/microSD card slot, Gigabit Ethernet Port (RJ-45), an Audio I/O Jack, a USB-C "Charging Port" and 4K HDMI. For $60

So, I'd have to carry around a much much larger dongle than the one I'd never carry ronud and that gives me a bunch of stuff I don't need on the road. A USB-C dock is a fine and useful thing and after your sales pitch I'm considering one for my desk now. However, I don't want to carry around the extra stuff.

Take a look around on Amazon. There are ALL manner of Docks, from those that have just a few ports, like this one:

2 USB 3.0 Ports and a 4K HDMI Port. Looks to be about 2" square. $20:

https://www.amazon.com/USB-HDM...

This one has 2 USB 2.0 Ports, Gig E, 4k HDMI, and a USB-C Power-Passthrough Port. 2.7" x 3.1". $40

https://www.amazon.com/Cable-M...

This is even better! For the same $40, you can have 3 USB 3.0 Ports, 4K HDMI, a 60W Power Passthru, and an SD/MicroSD Card Reader. And it is STILL only 3.5" X 2.4" :

https://www.amazon.com/AUKEY-M... ..an

If you don't understand how I derived my numbers by now, you never will...

I was being polite. It's clear you have no idea what you're talking about. I explained how I got my numbers, which you're unable to contracdict. You refused to explain yours.

I know *exactly* how your numbers are derived: you pulled them out of your arse.

How so?

I explained that, speaking hypothetically, if you had a 15" 2016/2017 MBP, which has 4 USB-C/TB3 Ports, and you plugged 1 of those OWC 13-Port TB3 Docks into EACH of the 4 Ports, you could have a MacBook Pro with FIFTY-TWO Simultaneous Legacy I/O Ports.

In reality, since 2 of the USB-C/TB3 Ports share the same 40 Gbps TB Controller in the Mac, I am not actually SURE you could realize ALL of the I/O provided by those 13 * 4 Ports Simultaneously (especially when it comes to the video fan-out, unless you are willing to restrict your external displays to 4K resolution each); but I saw nothing in the OWC Dock's admittedly sparse spec-sheet that had any relevant "asterisks" or limitations mentioned in that regard.

So, you already HAVE a Dongle. And who the HELL needs 4X HDMI on their Laptop, as standard Ports?!?

Odd type of 4k. 4k HDMI out of the box. It only has one port.

LOL! My bad!!! I must've misread "4K as 4X". That makes MUCH more sense!!!

Well, then there are like a ZILLION solutions for a single 4K HDMI out available on Amazon, clear down to around $13.

And you think that the MacBook Pro doesn't have WiFi? It has both WiFi and Bluetooth for "Wireless". So?

I said WWAN, not WLAN.

So you are saying that the ThinkPad has a built-in LTE MODEM?

Meh. The few times I would find myself out of reach of WiFi with my laptop, I would simply use my iPhone as a HotSpot. Not worth having to have a separate Cell data plan (or another user on a family-type plan) for the very few times I would need that.

Horses for courses. If I were a building contractor, out of a "job-site" a lot, built in LTE might be a handy feature. But I notice it is still relatively slow, compared to piggy-backing off of the 4G LTE MODEM in my iPhone.

https://support.lenovo.com/us/...

And so, for the equivalent of your Thinkpad's Ethernet Dongle (you're the one that admitted it!)

*if* you want wired ethernet. I never carry round a wired ethernet for my MBP, and my SO never carries around wired ethernet for the thinkpad.

you can carry a USB-C Dock that has 3 USB 3.0 Ports, an SD/microSD card slot, Gigabit Ethernet Port (RJ-45), an Audio I/O Jack, a USB-C "Charging Port" and 4K HDMI. For $60

So, I'd have to carry around a much much larger dongle than the one I'd never carry ronud and that gives me a bunch of stuff I don't need on the road. A USB-C dock is a fine and useful thing and after your sales pitch I'm considering one for my desk now. However, I don't want to carry around the extra stuff.

Take a look around on Amazon. There are ALL manner of Docks, from those that have just a few ports, like this one:

2 USB 3.0 Ports and a 4K HDMI Port. Looks to be about 2" square. $20:

https://www.amazon.com/USB-HDM...

This one has 2 USB 2.0 Ports, Gig E, 4k HDMI, and a USB-C Power-Passthrough Port. 2.7" x 3.1". $40

https://www.amazon.com/Cable-M...

This is even better! For the same $40, you can have 3 USB 3.0 Ports, 4K HDMI, a 60W Power Passthru, and an SD/MicroSD Card Reader. And it is STILL only 3.5" X 2.4" :

https://www.amazon.com/AUKEY-M... ..an

I didn't say 52 DEVICES (as in USB devices connected to a single USB bus); I said you can "break out" the 4 USB-C/TB3 Ports on a 2016/2017 MacBook Pro 15" laptop into a configuration that could encompass as many as 52 SIMULTANEOUS "Legacy" PORTS!!!

Apart from emboldening, shouting an dexclamation marks, what's the difference?

I can break out one USB bus to 127 USB ports from which I could hang off 127 RS-232 converters giving me 127 "legacy" ports.

So, I really really don't understand how you got your number, because I can get bigger numbers on the very same macbook.

If you don't understand how I derived my numbers by now, you never will...

I didn't say it was cheap; or even a configuration that most users would ever actually need; so don't even start that; but there are literally DOZENS of slightly less ambitious USB-C Docks on Amazon that have multiple USB 3.0 Ports, SD/MicroSD Card Slots, 4k HDMI (and sometimes VGA too), Gigabit Ethernet, sometimes Audio I/O, about the size of a dollar-Bill or smaller, and around $50-$80.

And yet you need to carry that crap around with you. compare to the thinkpad: 4x HDMI out of the box? Check. SD/uSD out of the box? Check. Gig-E (well it comes with a dongle, since RG-45 is too big), 4H HDMI with a full sized port? Check. Wireles WAN? Check.

So, you already HAVE a Dongle. And who the HELL needs 4X HDMI on their Laptop, as standard Ports?!?

And you think that the MacBook Pro doesn't have WiFi? It has both WiFi and Bluetooth for "Wireless". So?

And so, for the equivalent of your Thinkpad's Ethernet Dongle (you're the one that admitted it!), you can carry a USB-C Dock that has 3 USB 3.0 Ports, an SD/microSD card slot, Gigabit Ethernet Port (RJ-45), an Audio I/O Jack, a USB-C "Charging Port" and 4K HDMI. For $60.

What was your point, again?

It's not the expense that's the problem, since $80 is not much of a scratch on either of the two laptops when maxed out, it's the inconvenience and weight of all the extra little dongles.

ONE "Dongle" (Dock) that weighs a couple of ounces, max, is all most people would need on the road.

I can't find any one Dock that can support 4 x HDMI Displays (I swear I saw a Dell one that did that; but I can't find it again); but this one supports 3 simultaneous Displays (2 HDMI, 1 DVI/VGA). Of course, the DVI output can be easily adapted to HDMI (sans sound). So that's essentially THREE HDMI outputs:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01F...

I think this supports two simultaneous HDMI/DisplayPort 4K Displays, or one 5K.

https://www.amazon.com/Thinkma...

I think this one has dual HDMI 4K outputs, too:

https://www.amazon.com/SIIG-US...

And obviously, with any one of these Docks, you simply Don't need "multiple dongles"; you only have to pack ONE of these for day to day activities. These multi port USB-C Docks are small enough, and, other than the expensive OWC Thunderbolt Dock, cheap enough, so you can leave one at home, hooked up to your stuff, and throw one in your computer bag for on-the-go.

Or you can have a thinkpad and not have to worry about doing the dongledance every morning.

And you STILL have up to THREE UNUUSED USB-c/TB3 Ports to do whatever ELSE with!

Yeah, but I use the macbook pro on the road, so WTH am I going to use those ports for? If I'm at my desk, I'll generally use my much faster and more capable Linux workstation which knocks the MBP into a cocked hat in terms of aggregate I/O bandwidth, usability, speed, RAM and disk.

Honestly, what's not to like?

Needing adapters for HDMI, USB-A and SD cards.

(Also the reall

I didn't say 52 DEVICES (as in USB devices connected to a single USB bus); I said you can "break out" the 4 USB-C/TB3 Ports on a 2016/2017 MacBook Pro 15" laptop into a configuration that could encompass as many as 52 SIMULTANEOUS "Legacy" PORTS!!!

Apart from emboldening, shouting an dexclamation marks, what's the difference?

I can break out one USB bus to 127 USB ports from which I could hang off 127 RS-232 converters giving me 127 "legacy" ports.

So, I really really don't understand how you got your number, because I can get bigger numbers on the very same macbook.

If you don't understand how I derived my numbers by now, you never will...

I didn't say it was cheap; or even a configuration that most users would ever actually need; so don't even start that; but there are literally DOZENS of slightly less ambitious USB-C Docks on Amazon that have multiple USB 3.0 Ports, SD/MicroSD Card Slots, 4k HDMI (and sometimes VGA too), Gigabit Ethernet, sometimes Audio I/O, about the size of a dollar-Bill or smaller, and around $50-$80.

And yet you need to carry that crap around with you. compare to the thinkpad: 4x HDMI out of the box? Check. SD/uSD out of the box? Check. Gig-E (well it comes with a dongle, since RG-45 is too big), 4H HDMI with a full sized port? Check. Wireles WAN? Check.

So, you already HAVE a Dongle. And who the HELL needs 4X HDMI on their Laptop, as standard Ports?!?

And you think that the MacBook Pro doesn't have WiFi? It has both WiFi and Bluetooth for "Wireless". So?

And so, for the equivalent of your Thinkpad's Ethernet Dongle (you're the one that admitted it!), you can carry a USB-C Dock that has 3 USB 3.0 Ports, an SD/microSD card slot, Gigabit Ethernet Port (RJ-45), an Audio I/O Jack, a USB-C "Charging Port" and 4K HDMI. For $60.

What was your point, again?

It's not the expense that's the problem, since $80 is not much of a scratch on either of the two laptops when maxed out, it's the inconvenience and weight of all the extra little dongles.

ONE "Dongle" (Dock) that weighs a couple of ounces, max, is all most people would need on the road.

I can't find any one Dock that can support 4 x HDMI Displays (I swear I saw a Dell one that did that; but I can't find it again); but this one supports 3 simultaneous Displays (2 HDMI, 1 DVI/VGA). Of course, the DVI output can be easily adapted to HDMI (sans sound). So that's essentially THREE HDMI outputs:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01F...

I think this supports two simultaneous HDMI/DisplayPort 4K Displays, or one 5K.

https://www.amazon.com/Thinkma...

I think this one has dual HDMI 4K outputs, too:

https://www.amazon.com/SIIG-US...

And obviously, with any one of these Docks, you simply Don't need "multiple dongles"; you only have to pack ONE of these for day to day activities. These multi port USB-C Docks are small enough, and, other than the expensive OWC Thunderbolt Dock, cheap enough, so you can leave one at home, hooked up to your stuff, and throw one in your computer bag for on-the-go.

Or you can have a thinkpad and not have to worry about doing the dongledance every morning.

And you STILL have up to THREE UNUUSED USB-c/TB3 Ports to do whatever ELSE with!

Yeah, but I use the macbook pro on the road, so WTH am I going to use those ports for? If I'm at my desk, I'll generally use my much faster and more capable Linux workstation which knocks the MBP into a cocked hat in terms of aggregate I/O bandwidth, usability, speed, RAM and disk.

Honestly, what's not to like?

Needing adapters for HDMI, USB-A and SD cards.

(Also the reall

I didn't say 52 DEVICES (as in USB devices connected to a single USB bus); I said you can "break out" the 4 USB-C/TB3 Ports on a 2016/2017 MacBook Pro 15" laptop into a configuration that could encompass as many as 52 SIMULTANEOUS "Legacy" PORTS!!!

Apart from emboldening, shouting an dexclamation marks, what's the difference?

I can break out one USB bus to 127 USB ports from which I could hang off 127 RS-232 converters giving me 127 "legacy" ports.

So, I really really don't understand how you got your number, because I can get bigger numbers on the very same macbook.

If you don't understand how I derived my numbers by now, you never will...

I didn't say it was cheap; or even a configuration that most users would ever actually need; so don't even start that; but there are literally DOZENS of slightly less ambitious USB-C Docks on Amazon that have multiple USB 3.0 Ports, SD/MicroSD Card Slots, 4k HDMI (and sometimes VGA too), Gigabit Ethernet, sometimes Audio I/O, about the size of a dollar-Bill or smaller, and around $50-$80.

And yet you need to carry that crap around with you. compare to the thinkpad: 4x HDMI out of the box? Check. SD/uSD out of the box? Check. Gig-E (well it comes with a dongle, since RG-45 is too big), 4H HDMI with a full sized port? Check. Wireles WAN? Check.

So, you already HAVE a Dongle. And who the HELL needs 4X HDMI on their Laptop, as standard Ports?!?

And you think that the MacBook Pro doesn't have WiFi? It has both WiFi and Bluetooth for "Wireless". So?

And so, for the equivalent of your Thinkpad's Ethernet Dongle (you're the one that admitted it!), you can carry a USB-C Dock that has 3 USB 3.0 Ports, an SD/microSD card slot, Gigabit Ethernet Port (RJ-45), an Audio I/O Jack, a USB-C "Charging Port" and 4K HDMI. For $60.

What was your point, again?

It's not the expense that's the problem, since $80 is not much of a scratch on either of the two laptops when maxed out, it's the inconvenience and weight of all the extra little dongles.

ONE "Dongle" (Dock) that weighs a couple of ounces, max, is all most people would need on the road.

I can't find any one Dock that can support 4 x HDMI Displays (I swear I saw a Dell one that did that; but I can't find it again); but this one supports 3 simultaneous Displays (2 HDMI, 1 DVI/VGA). Of course, the DVI output can be easily adapted to HDMI (sans sound). So that's essentially THREE HDMI outputs:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01F...

I think this supports two simultaneous HDMI/DisplayPort 4K Displays, or one 5K.

https://www.amazon.com/Thinkma...

I think this one has dual HDMI 4K outputs, too:

https://www.amazon.com/SIIG-US...

And obviously, with any one of these Docks, you simply Don't need "multiple dongles"; you only have to pack ONE of these for day to day activities. These multi port USB-C Docks are small enough, and, other than the expensive OWC Thunderbolt Dock, cheap enough, so you can leave one at home, hooked up to your stuff, and throw one in your computer bag for on-the-go.

Or you can have a thinkpad and not have to worry about doing the dongledance every morning.

And you STILL have up to THREE UNUUSED USB-c/TB3 Ports to do whatever ELSE with!

Yeah, but I use the macbook pro on the road, so WTH am I going to use those ports for? If I'm at my desk, I'll generally use my much faster and more capable Linux workstation which knocks the MBP into a cocked hat in terms of aggregate I/O bandwidth, usability, speed, RAM and disk.

Honestly, what's not to like?

Needing adapters for HDMI, USB-A and SD cards.

(Also the reall

Hmm, 4 USB-C ports? I don't have the latest, it had that stupid OLED softkey stuff, and I have to wait to get a replacement one for work. My current one does not have 4 ports of standard USB 3, only 2 ports, Apple has consistently been removing more and more ports in order to shrink and overheat the thing. And USB-C would SUCK, that's like an extra $30 per port for an adapter to something sane.

Ok, the 13" MacBook Pro has 2 USB-C/TB3 Ports. The 15" has 4.

But those 2 USB-C/TB3 ports can STILL be broken-out into a myriad of configurations of up to 26 SIMULTANEOUS "Legacy" Ports. Name me ONE Laptop with 26 Ports...

And $30 for a USB-C to USB-A Adapter? Get real! More like THREE for $5!!!

https://www.amazon.com/Adapter...

Like FOUR USB-C Ports on a Laptop, for an aggregate 80 Gb/s I/O bandwidth, and which can be easily and inexpensively broken-out into a MYRIAD of different configurations, up to FIFTY-TWO SIMULTANEOUS "Legacy" Ports?

Only in theory. In practice the MBP has three USB-C ports and one charging port.

The probability of you requiring the bandwidth of four USB-C ports when away from power is negligible, and charging is one of the few things that can't be broken out.

Not only possible in theory. In practice, too.

One of the "selling-points" of USB-C is that charging and data transfer can take place over the same port simultaneously.

And actually, there are a number of USB-C Docks that DO have "USB-C Charging Ports" that DO attempt to break-out the USB-C Charging. In fact, I would say that a majority of the USB-C Docks I have seen on Amazon offer this.

A lot of them fall-short in their current-handling capabilities, unfortunately; but that's just a function of them not wanting to put in a high-enough-wattage resistor (sorry, don't know the exact details, but that's the gist of it); because some DO support pushing a full 85W (the rating of the 2016/2017 MBP Power Adapter) through their USB-C interface to the computer.

Most USB-C Docks seem to top-out at around 60W, which is enough to RUN a 15" MBP; but only charge it very slowly while in use. But, here's some that claim 85W charging ability through USB-C:

https://plugable.com/products/...

https://www.amazon.com/Promate...

https://www.amazon.com/Elgato-...

https://www.amazon.com/StarTec...

https://www.amazon.com/IOGEAR-...

https://www.amazon.com/Belkin-...

https://www.amazon.com/CalDigi...

Possibly 85W:

https://www.amazon.com/LeTouch...

Like FOUR USB-C Ports on a Laptop, for an aggregate 80 Gb/s I/O bandwidth, and which can be easily and inexpensively broken-out into a MYRIAD of different configurations, up to FIFTY-TWO SIMULTANEOUS "Legacy" Ports?

Only in theory. In practice the MBP has three USB-C ports and one charging port.

The probability of you requiring the bandwidth of four USB-C ports when away from power is negligible, and charging is one of the few things that can't be broken out.

Not only possible in theory. In practice, too.

One of the "selling-points" of USB-C is that charging and data transfer can take place over the same port simultaneously.

And actually, there are a number of USB-C Docks that DO have "USB-C Charging Ports" that DO attempt to break-out the USB-C Charging. In fact, I would say that a majority of the USB-C Docks I have seen on Amazon offer this.

A lot of them fall-short in their current-handling capabilities, unfortunately; but that's just a function of them not wanting to put in a high-enough-wattage resistor (sorry, don't know the exact details, but that's the gist of it); because some DO support pushing a full 85W (the rating of the 2016/2017 MBP Power Adapter) through their USB-C interface to the computer.

Most USB-C Docks seem to top-out at around 60W, which is enough to RUN a 15" MBP; but only charge it very slowly while in use. But, here's some that claim 85W charging ability through USB-C:

https://plugable.com/products/...

https://www.amazon.com/Promate...

https://www.amazon.com/Elgato-...

https://www.amazon.com/StarTec...

https://www.amazon.com/IOGEAR-...

https://www.amazon.com/Belkin-...

https://www.amazon.com/CalDigi...

Possibly 85W:

https://www.amazon.com/LeTouch...

Like FOUR USB-C Ports on a Laptop, for an aggregate 80 Gb/s I/O bandwidth, and which can be easily and inexpensively broken-out into a MYRIAD of different configurations, up to FIFTY-TWO SIMULTANEOUS "Legacy" Ports?

Only in theory. In practice the MBP has three USB-C ports and one charging port.

The probability of you requiring the bandwidth of four USB-C ports when away from power is negligible, and charging is one of the few things that can't be broken out.

Not only possible in theory. In practice, too.

One of the "selling-points" of USB-C is that charging and data transfer can take place over the same port simultaneously.

And actually, there are a number of USB-C Docks that DO have "USB-C Charging Ports" that DO attempt to break-out the USB-C Charging. In fact, I would say that a majority of the USB-C Docks I have seen on Amazon offer this.

A lot of them fall-short in their current-handling capabilities, unfortunately; but that's just a function of them not wanting to put in a high-enough-wattage resistor (sorry, don't know the exact details, but that's the gist of it); because some DO support pushing a full 85W (the rating of the 2016/2017 MBP Power Adapter) through their USB-C interface to the computer.

Most USB-C Docks seem to top-out at around 60W, which is enough to RUN a 15" MBP; but only charge it very slowly while in use. But, here's some that claim 85W charging ability through USB-C:

https://plugable.com/products/...

https://www.amazon.com/Promate...

https://www.amazon.com/Elgato-...

https://www.amazon.com/StarTec...

https://www.amazon.com/IOGEAR-...

https://www.amazon.com/Belkin-...

https://www.amazon.com/CalDigi...

Possibly 85W:

https://www.amazon.com/LeTouch...

Like FOUR USB-C Ports on a Laptop, for an aggregate 80 Gb/s I/O bandwidth, and which can be easily and inexpensively broken-out into a MYRIAD of different configurations, up to FIFTY-TWO SIMULTANEOUS "Legacy" Ports?

Only in theory. In practice the MBP has three USB-C ports and one charging port.

The probability of you requiring the bandwidth of four USB-C ports when away from power is negligible, and charging is one of the few things that can't be broken out.

Not only possible in theory. In practice, too.

One of the "selling-points" of USB-C is that charging and data transfer can take place over the same port simultaneously.

And actually, there are a number of USB-C Docks that DO have "USB-C Charging Ports" that DO attempt to break-out the USB-C Charging. In fact, I would say that a majority of the USB-C Docks I have seen on Amazon offer this.

A lot of them fall-short in their current-handling capabilities, unfortunately; but that's just a function of them not wanting to put in a high-enough-wattage resistor (sorry, don't know the exact details, but that's the gist of it); because some DO support pushing a full 85W (the rating of the 2016/2017 MBP Power Adapter) through their USB-C interface to the computer.

Most USB-C Docks seem to top-out at around 60W, which is enough to RUN a 15" MBP; but only charge it very slowly while in use. But, here's some that claim 85W charging ability through USB-C:

https://plugable.com/products/...

https://www.amazon.com/Promate...

https://www.amazon.com/Elgato-...

https://www.amazon.com/StarTec...

https://www.amazon.com/IOGEAR-...

https://www.amazon.com/Belkin-...

https://www.amazon.com/CalDigi...

Possibly 85W:

https://www.amazon.com/LeTouch...

Like FOUR USB-C Ports on a Laptop, for an aggregate 80 Gb/s I/O bandwidth, and which can be easily and inexpensively broken-out into a MYRIAD of different configurations, up to FIFTY-TWO SIMULTANEOUS "Legacy" Ports?

Only in theory. In practice the MBP has three USB-C ports and one charging port.

The probability of you requiring the bandwidth of four USB-C ports when away from power is negligible, and charging is one of the few things that can't be broken out.

Not only possible in theory. In practice, too.

One of the "selling-points" of USB-C is that charging and data transfer can take place over the same port simultaneously.

And actually, there are a number of USB-C Docks that DO have "USB-C Charging Ports" that DO attempt to break-out the USB-C Charging. In fact, I would say that a majority of the USB-C Docks I have seen on Amazon offer this.

A lot of them fall-short in their current-handling capabilities, unfortunately; but that's just a function of them not wanting to put in a high-enough-wattage resistor (sorry, don't know the exact details, but that's the gist of it); because some DO support pushing a full 85W (the rating of the 2016/2017 MBP Power Adapter) through their USB-C interface to the computer.

Most USB-C Docks seem to top-out at around 60W, which is enough to RUN a 15" MBP; but only charge it very slowly while in use. But, here's some that claim 85W charging ability through USB-C:

https://plugable.com/products/...

https://www.amazon.com/Promate...

https://www.amazon.com/Elgato-...

https://www.amazon.com/StarTec...

https://www.amazon.com/IOGEAR-...

https://www.amazon.com/Belkin-...

https://www.amazon.com/CalDigi...

Possibly 85W:

https://www.amazon.com/LeTouch...

Like FOUR USB-C Ports on a Laptop, for an aggregate 80 Gb/s I/O bandwidth, and which can be easily and inexpensively broken-out into a MYRIAD of different configurations, up to FIFTY-TWO SIMULTANEOUS "Legacy" Ports?

Only in theory. In practice the MBP has three USB-C ports and one charging port.

The probability of you requiring the bandwidth of four USB-C ports when away from power is negligible, and charging is one of the few things that can't be broken out.

Not only possible in theory. In practice, too.

One of the "selling-points" of USB-C is that charging and data transfer can take place over the same port simultaneously.

And actually, there are a number of USB-C Docks that DO have "USB-C Charging Ports" that DO attempt to break-out the USB-C Charging. In fact, I would say that a majority of the USB-C Docks I have seen on Amazon offer this.

A lot of them fall-short in their current-handling capabilities, unfortunately; but that's just a function of them not wanting to put in a high-enough-wattage resistor (sorry, don't know the exact details, but that's the gist of it); because some DO support pushing a full 85W (the rating of the 2016/2017 MBP Power Adapter) through their USB-C interface to the computer.

Most USB-C Docks seem to top-out at around 60W, which is enough to RUN a 15" MBP; but only charge it very slowly while in use. But, here's some that claim 85W charging ability through USB-C:

https://plugable.com/products/...

https://www.amazon.com/Promate...

https://www.amazon.com/Elgato-...

https://www.amazon.com/StarTec...

https://www.amazon.com/IOGEAR-...

https://www.amazon.com/Belkin-...

https://www.amazon.com/CalDigi...

Possibly 85W:

https://www.amazon.com/LeTouch...

Like FOUR USB-C Ports on a Laptop, for an aggregate 80 Gb/s I/O bandwidth, and which can be easily and inexpensively broken-out into a MYRIAD of different configurations, up to FIFTY-TWO SIMULTANEOUS "Legacy" Ports?

Only in theory. In practice the MBP has three USB-C ports and one charging port.

The probability of you requiring the bandwidth of four USB-C ports when away from power is negligible, and charging is one of the few things that can't be broken out.

Not only possible in theory. In practice, too.

One of the "selling-points" of USB-C is that charging and data transfer can take place over the same port simultaneously.

And actually, there are a number of USB-C Docks that DO have "USB-C Charging Ports" that DO attempt to break-out the USB-C Charging. In fact, I would say that a majority of the USB-C Docks I have seen on Amazon offer this.

A lot of them fall-short in their current-handling capabilities, unfortunately; but that's just a function of them not wanting to put in a high-enough-wattage resistor (sorry, don't know the exact details, but that's the gist of it); because some DO support pushing a full 85W (the rating of the 2016/2017 MBP Power Adapter) through their USB-C interface to the computer.

Most USB-C Docks seem to top-out at around 60W, which is enough to RUN a 15" MBP; but only charge it very slowly while in use. But, here's some that claim 85W charging ability through USB-C:

https://plugable.com/products/...

https://www.amazon.com/Promate...

https://www.amazon.com/Elgato-...

https://www.amazon.com/StarTec...

https://www.amazon.com/IOGEAR-...

https://www.amazon.com/Belkin-...

https://www.amazon.com/CalDigi...

Possibly 85W:

https://www.amazon.com/LeTouch...

Limited Features? Like FOUR USB-C Ports on a Laptop, for an aggregate 80 Gb/s I/O bandwidth, and which can be easily and inexpensively broken-out into a MYRIAD of different configurations, up to FIFTY-TWO SIMULTANEOUS "Legacy" Ports?

So that you can carry a dongle for everything that your device ought to do built-in, like the $70 dongle just to get HDMI output for watching movies in your hotel room.

For just an HDMI Adapter? More like less than $20.

Here's one for $14:

https://www.amazon.com/Adapter...

Here's one built into a 6 ft. Cable for $17.50; so you don.'t even have to carry a separate HDMI cable to do your fapping:

https://www.amazon.com/Cable-M...

In fact, For LESS than $70, you can get a USB-C DOCK, with 3 USB 3.0 Ports, GIGABIT Ethernet Port, SD/MicroSD slot, Audio I/O Jack, USB-C Charging Port, and, oh yes, a 4K HDMI Port.

https://www.amazon.com/Adapter...

Limited features.

Highly Controlling? Like for example, the fact that, since iOS 8, Apple has officially allowed "Sideloading" of Apps on iOS Devices, both through Open Source XCode Application-Building, and through the loading of precompiled .ipa files using Cydia Impactor, which runs on every desktop platform?

Like the fact that we had to scream for an entire decade to get that capability.

Who gives a shit? You still cited it as an example, over three years since it was no longer true. That makes you either a fool, or a liar. Pick one.

Abandoned Product Lines? Every OEM drops products and sometimes whole product-lines. So?

Every vendor doesn't build the only products compatible with their OS, or require that all iOS apps be compiled on Macs. Ever try to set up a build/test farm now that the XServe is discontinued? See also "Highly Controlling".

Xcode has had the ability to do multi-computer compile/build sharing BUILT-IN for several versions now. So again: fool or liar: Which is it?

There is a lot of Windows Development you can only do in a Windows environment. So what?

Erratic Decision-Making? As compared with, say, Microsoft? Yeahrightsure...

I'm not sure what the GP was thinking about here. Apple's decision-making is pretty self-consistent. As of late, it has resulted in some rather bizarre outcomes, but the logic resulting in those bizarre outcomes was self-consistent, and thus not erratic.

Finally! A few words of reason! Give the man a biscuit!

Limited Features? Like FOUR USB-C Ports on a Laptop, for an aggregate 80 Gb/s I/O bandwidth, and which can be easily and inexpensively broken-out into a MYRIAD of different configurations, up to FIFTY-TWO SIMULTANEOUS "Legacy" Ports?

So that you can carry a dongle for everything that your device ought to do built-in, like the $70 dongle just to get HDMI output for watching movies in your hotel room.

For just an HDMI Adapter? More like less than $20.

Here's one for $14:

https://www.amazon.com/Adapter...

Here's one built into a 6 ft. Cable for $17.50; so you don.'t even have to carry a separate HDMI cable to do your fapping:

https://www.amazon.com/Cable-M...

In fact, For LESS than $70, you can get a USB-C DOCK, with 3 USB 3.0 Ports, GIGABIT Ethernet Port, SD/MicroSD slot, Audio I/O Jack, USB-C Charging Port, and, oh yes, a 4K HDMI Port.

https://www.amazon.com/Adapter...

Limited features.

Highly Controlling? Like for example, the fact that, since iOS 8, Apple has officially allowed "Sideloading" of Apps on iOS Devices, both through Open Source XCode Application-Building, and through the loading of precompiled .ipa files using Cydia Impactor, which runs on every desktop platform?

Like the fact that we had to scream for an entire decade to get that capability.

Who gives a shit? You still cited it as an example, over three years since it was no longer true. That makes you either a fool, or a liar. Pick one.

Abandoned Product Lines? Every OEM drops products and sometimes whole product-lines. So?

Every vendor doesn't build the only products compatible with their OS, or require that all iOS apps be compiled on Macs. Ever try to set up a build/test farm now that the XServe is discontinued? See also "Highly Controlling".

Xcode has had the ability to do multi-computer compile/build sharing BUILT-IN for several versions now. So again: fool or liar: Which is it?

There is a lot of Windows Development you can only do in a Windows environment. So what?

Erratic Decision-Making? As compared with, say, Microsoft? Yeahrightsure...

I'm not sure what the GP was thinking about here. Apple's decision-making is pretty self-consistent. As of late, it has resulted in some rather bizarre outcomes, but the logic resulting in those bizarre outcomes was self-consistent, and thus not erratic.

Finally! A few words of reason! Give the man a biscuit!

Limited Features? Like FOUR USB-C Ports on a Laptop, for an aggregate 80 Gb/s I/O bandwidth, and which can be easily and inexpensively broken-out into a MYRIAD of different configurations, up to FIFTY-TWO SIMULTANEOUS "Legacy" Ports?

So that you can carry a dongle for everything that your device ought to do built-in, like the $70 dongle just to get HDMI output for watching movies in your hotel room.

For just an HDMI Adapter? More like less than $20.

Here's one for $14:

https://www.amazon.com/Adapter...

Here's one built into a 6 ft. Cable for $17.50; so you don.'t even have to carry a separate HDMI cable to do your fapping:

https://www.amazon.com/Cable-M...

In fact, For LESS than $70, you can get a USB-C DOCK, with 3 USB 3.0 Ports, GIGABIT Ethernet Port, SD/MicroSD slot, Audio I/O Jack, USB-C Charging Port, and, oh yes, a 4K HDMI Port.

https://www.amazon.com/Adapter...

Limited features.

Highly Controlling? Like for example, the fact that, since iOS 8, Apple has officially allowed "Sideloading" of Apps on iOS Devices, both through Open Source XCode Application-Building, and through the loading of precompiled .ipa files using Cydia Impactor, which runs on every desktop platform?

Like the fact that we had to scream for an entire decade to get that capability.

Who gives a shit? You still cited it as an example, over three years since it was no longer true. That makes you either a fool, or a liar. Pick one.

Abandoned Product Lines? Every OEM drops products and sometimes whole product-lines. So?

Every vendor doesn't build the only products compatible with their OS, or require that all iOS apps be compiled on Macs. Ever try to set up a build/test farm now that the XServe is discontinued? See also "Highly Controlling".

Xcode has had the ability to do multi-computer compile/build sharing BUILT-IN for several versions now. So again: fool or liar: Which is it?

There is a lot of Windows Development you can only do in a Windows environment. So what?

Erratic Decision-Making? As compared with, say, Microsoft? Yeahrightsure...

I'm not sure what the GP was thinking about here. Apple's decision-making is pretty self-consistent. As of late, it has resulted in some rather bizarre outcomes, but the logic resulting in those bizarre outcomes was self-consistent, and thus not erratic.

Finally! A few words of reason! Give the man a biscuit!

The AI book that everyone should get is available for pre-order. "Artificial Intelligence For Dummies" by John Paul Mueller and Luca Massaron.

The AI book that everyone should get is available for pre-order. "Artificial Intelligence For Dummies" by John Paul Mueller and Luca Massaron.

The AI book that everyone should get is available for pre-order. "Artificial Intelligence For Dummies" by John Paul Mueller and Luca Massaron.

The AI book that everyone should get is available for pre-order. "Artificial Intelligence For Dummies" by John Paul Mueller and Luca Massaron.

The Clock is already illuminating with stark clarity the further decline of Slashdot into a realm of howling luddite monkeys.

Ironically prooabiy many of the same people complaining about the clock are the same ones that complain modern electronics are no longer durable.

If anyone wants to know the deeper reasoning behind why the clock exists, read the book "The Clock Of The Long Now: Time and Responsibility".

Ah, yes, blame Fox News - and misspell the name, too! Tell me, do you refer to M$ as well, little boy?
Around 1900, "yellow journalism" was a thing. You might have heard of it - it was false, biased, and politicized "news" that makes today's stuff look sane. Yes, even InfoWars and HuffPo are sane compared to the garbage published back then.

The myth of journalistic impartiality was basically the brand of Walter Cronkite - and he was secretly a corrupt and biased asshole. He took bribes from companies to mention their products... or to not report on stories negative to them. He blackmailed politicians to appear as guests, modified or made up statements, mixed quotes, edited film and audio... he had a strong political agenda, and exercised it constantly.

But because CBS covered up for him, including threatening other reporters that wanted to report about Cronkite, he was able to keep his brand up there, and deceive the US into thinking there was honest and impartial news out there.

Try reading "Cronkite" by David Brinkley. It sheds a lot of light on the guy, and his deceptive legacy.

Get one of those steering wheel trays for your book so you can watch the road.

20 years ago. Buy a book:
https://www.amazon.com/Structu...
Learn to program.

Today. Believe it or not it is still possible to: Buy a book and learn to program!
https://www.amazon.com/Structu...

Contrary to popular opinion, people did learn things in the days before web-enabled-group-assignments. Now we have teachers ready give you the answers to any hard questions so that your sense remains at permanently elevated levels.

20 years ago. Buy a book:
https://www.amazon.com/Structu...
Learn to program.

Today. Believe it or not it is still possible to: Buy a book and learn to program!
https://www.amazon.com/Structu...

Contrary to popular opinion, people did learn things in the days before web-enabled-group-assignments. Now we have teachers ready give you the answers to any hard questions so that your sense remains at permanently elevated levels.

One possible scenario.

Stuart Brand wrote a book, published back in 1994, about just this kind of thing, How Buildings Learn. (also here)

This, from the Wikipedia summary of the accompanying BBC TV series, is relevant to the Apple UFO:

Brand is highly critical of the entire modernist approach to architecture. He fully rejects the "center out" approach of design, where a single person or group designs a building for others to use, in favor of an evolutionary approach where owners can change a building over time to meet their needs.

So when Apple employees attempt to, as Brand would say, "change a building.. to meet their needs," by sticking Post-its to the glass partitions, management undid that. Apple is all in on center out.

You can get one of these portable stove tops and that should solve your heating problems at least. I'm going through a similar situation right now............

https://www.amazon.com/StarTec...

Honestly making suggestions.

Get a griddle and then make tablespoon pancakes (3-4 inches), they freeze well and heat well in the microwave.

Then there is this little miracle that we discovered last year, a breakfast sandwich maker:
https://www.amazon.com/Hamilto...

And it can make many things other than breakfast. And those pancakes I described, they can be the bread (which is awesome).

You are correct though, if we are having proper dinner (grilling some steak/burgers/chicken) and fresh vegetables, an hour is the minimum (with 2 kids it's close to 90 minutes not including cleanup).

it is. I mean that. Especially if you live in a cheap apartment with a crappy kitchen. I do, and I cook most of my meals and it sucks. Your stove takes forever to heat up. Your burners don't heat evenly so you have to set them and let the pans hit for 10-15 minutes or your food cooks unevenly. The stove never stays level either. Your microwave is cheap and your fridge small. Your freezer smaller

If I make a meal of eggs, potatoes & some pancakes from scratch (minus the pancake mix, which is pre made) I need to plan on a little over an hour. 10-15 minutes to heat the pans. 5 minutes to mix the pancake batter (you can't mix it until just before you use it or it screws up the pancake texture). 15 minutes to cook the pancakes (one at a time, since I only have 1 full sized burner) 5 to cook the eggs (I'm not a good cook, so if I try to juggle the eggs and pancakes I burn one or the other) meanwhile the potatoes are cooking for about 30 minutes while being flipped periodically. Then I need to sit down and eat (15-20 minutes) and then clean up (10 minutes). Of course, I have to wait at least 30 minutes to an hour to clean since the pans need to cool or they'll warp. And you can't leave the pans sitting around, especially in an apartment. You'll get roaches. Lots of them. And ants.

Then there's the cost of fresh food. If it's not on sale it's expensive. If it is on sale it's about to go bad. You can freeze meat, but vegetables & fruits don't freeze well (fruit it tolerable in smoothies but nothing else). Packaged dinners are a great buy because they keep for months. I can buy them when they're on sale, stock up and save. I can't do that with Bananas. They're worm food in 5 days tops.

There's a reason why women used to be home bound. Food preparation was a full time job. As pay decreases they moved into the workforce largely to make up the difference. Processed foods made that possible. But wages keep going down. So we need foods that need less and less prep time and cost less and less. There are consequences.

So to summarize then, there may be an element of regression going on in society. Yes? Even though we have Facebook and the like...

Perhaps a plethora of crappy food options and crappy food culture will soon change now that Amazon has arrived.

it is. I mean that. Especially if you live in a cheap apartment with a crappy kitchen. I do, and I cook most of my meals and it sucks. Your stove takes forever to heat up. Your burners don't heat evenly so you have to set them and let the pans hit for 10-15 minutes or your food cooks unevenly. The stove never stays level either. Your microwave is cheap and your fridge small. Your freezer smaller If I make a meal of eggs, potatoes & some pancakes from scratch (minus the pancake mix, which is pre made) I need to plan on a little over an hour. 10-15 minutes to heat the pans. 5 minutes to mix the pancake batter (you can't mix it until just before you use it or it screws up the pancake texture). 15 minutes to cook the pancakes (one at a time, since I only have 1 full sized burner) 5 to cook the eggs (I'm not a good cook, so if I try to juggle the eggs and pancakes I burn one or the other) meanwhile the potatoes are cooking for about 30 minutes while being flipped periodically. Then I need to sit down and eat (15-20 minutes) and then clean up (10 minutes). Of course, I have to wait at least 30 minutes to an hour to clean since the pans need to cool or they'll warp. And you can't leave the pans sitting around, especially in an apartment. You'll get roaches. Lots of them. And ants. Then there's the cost of fresh food. If it's not on sale it's expensive. If it is on sale it's about to go bad. You can freeze meat, but vegetables & fruits don't freeze well (fruit it tolerable in smoothies but nothing else). Packaged dinners are a great buy because they keep for months. I can buy them when they're on sale, stock up and save. I can't do that with Bananas. They're worm food in 5 days tops. There's a reason why women used to be home bound. Food preparation was a full time job. As pay decreases they moved into the workforce largely to make up the difference. Processed foods made that possible. But wages keep going down. So we need foods that need less and less prep time and cost less and less. There are consequences.

You can get induction countertop stoves. They work really well and it heats up so fast that it actually throws off the rhythms of some quite experienced cooks.

I now try to batch cook and make meals that will last a few days. So I don't have to cook everyday or don't have to grab something unhealthy. Huge dutch ovens or the large pressure cookers are great for that.

Rest, exercise and cooked food are something that should never be skipped. Without your health, everything else is meaningless.

it is. I mean that. Especially if you live in a cheap apartment with a crappy kitchen. I do, and I cook most of my meals and it sucks. Your stove takes forever to heat up. Your burners don't heat evenly so you have to set them and let the pans hit for 10-15 minutes or your food cooks unevenly. The stove never stays level either. Your microwave is cheap and your fridge small. Your freezer smaller

If I make a meal of eggs, potatoes & some pancakes from scratch (minus the pancake mix, which is pre made) I need to plan on a little over an hour. 10-15 minutes to heat the pans. 5 minutes to mix the pancake batter (you can't mix it until just before you use it or it screws up the pancake texture). 15 minutes to cook the pancakes (one at a time, since I only have 1 full sized burner) 5 to cook the eggs (I'm not a good cook, so if I try to juggle the eggs and pancakes I burn one or the other) meanwhile the potatoes are cooking for about 30 minutes while being flipped periodically. Then I need to sit down and eat (15-20 minutes) and then clean up (10 minutes). Of course, I have to wait at least 30 minutes to an hour to clean since the pans need to cool or they'll warp. And you can't leave the pans sitting around, especially in an apartment. You'll get roaches. Lots of them. And ants.

Then there's the cost of fresh food. If it's not on sale it's expensive. If it is on sale it's about to go bad. You can freeze meat, but vegetables & fruits don't freeze well (fruit it tolerable in smoothies but nothing else). Packaged dinners are a great buy because they keep for months. I can buy them when they're on sale, stock up and save. I can't do that with Bananas. They're worm food in 5 days tops.

There's a reason why women used to be home bound. Food preparation was a full time job. As pay decreases they moved into the workforce largely to make up the difference. Processed foods made that possible. But wages keep going down. So we need foods that need less and less prep time and cost less and less. There are consequences.

right here