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its all ready is open sourced and that is what the soylent news guys did but the community didn't fallow.

Yes, SlashCode is open source, but the latest public release is 5 years old and not at all what's running on slashdot now.

It would be very nice, if Dice would release a newer version of the code, not only for SoylentNews, but also for the Japanese slashdot.jp and the Spanish barrapunto.com, both of them are still using the old version.

Neither owns Barrapunto (Spanish for "Slashdot") and it is also not thinking in updating to beta. At least for now...

let's just fork it and we'll all go somewhere else.

We should all learn spanish and move to barrapunto.com

At least the UI is better than beta... and no Javascript! Hell, is better than classic!

Todas nuestras bases ahora pertenecen a ellos!

In Spanish there is Barrapunto (English description).

For tens of years, it was never released to developers, users, etc the essential features considered inside of a normal practice of developing applications that were habitual during many years of the computer science history:

1. 1. No statement label <label>:
2. 2. No statement goto <label>;
3. 3. So, it could not be easily used the java language as the intermediate representation or target of the following higher-level compilers or interpreters for the coming developers or users.
4. 4. No ASM assembler for the java's bytecodes although it did have its disassembler
5. 5. Unoptimal generated-code by its non-evolutionated linear scan register allocator vs the another optimal approaches as the bins packing and others.
6. 6. Objetive-C from atleast GCC-4.6.2 that has also LTO (Link Time Optimization) and optimization-expensive register allocators is the direct competition against the deficiencies of java.
7. 7. No released Development Kit for ARM architectures, to know that there are many ARMs as PCs worldwide.
8. 8. Advanced editors (e.g. of workspace with 4 window-frames for OO similar to Smalltalk's), IDEs and RADs are horribily slowly booted during seconds if written in java (e.g. eclipse, jbuilder foundation, etc.) vs the milliseconds if written in Objective-C.
9. 9. For minimizing the memory leaks of graphical applications written in Objective-C, the library Boehm's GC could help it to minimize this impact (e.g. not raising the exception of Out of Memory after of many hours of running versus the weird exceptions of threads of the JVM of java).
10. 10. For developers, Objective-C could be much better than java when it's for programming graphical applications.
11. 11. We think that in many years, the company did little research for improving the compiler technologies, so that it's much better to donate the investment to e.g. GCC's foundation for accelerating the researchs of the compiler technologies, overall for Objective-C and how to improve the Garbage Collector to be specialized specifically for Objective-C that uses also extensively C-compiled libraries.
12. 12. Freedom or liberty is much more important than the another damned circle based in the businesses-related laws's moral-ethic-tortures.
13. 13. Many researchers knew that the hard problems of many years ago and their hard algorithmic methods cannot be blocked by enterprises's interests.
14. 14. Objective-C always is good for interactivity. Java is justly the opposed.
15. 15. It's good to bring the "NeXTStep environment" from the past (in the abandonware) to the present for the near future.
16. 16. And so the many variants of Xerox Smalltalk from '72, '74, ''76, '80, and so on to the present for the near future.
17. 17. Apple did well during many tens of years with the many applications written in Objective-C for their electronic mobile devices and computers.
18. 18. When you've read the Red Dragon book of the Construction of Compilers of Aho-Sethi-Ullman, you will know that the java Development Kit will lack the essential pieces (impossible to connect every textual Ts) for the construction of advanced compilers using little efforts developing it.

During many years, the java company did the ridiculous to the developers, users, clients, etc. appointing for suscribing to their Business circles.

My 1st post (in spanish): http://www.javahispano.org/portada/2011/12/15/tutorial-de-lenguajes-dinamicos-en-java-7-por-roberto-monter.html

My 2nd post (in spanish)http://barrapunto.com/comments.pl?threshold=-1&mode=nested&commentsort=0&op=Cambiar&sid=87964

JCPM

Hey jackass, way to respect the non-native speakers.

I'd like to see you try posting 8 paragraphs on a Spanish website. How about barrapunto.com?

Hi guys, I just want to advice that this post is just a c&p/traslation from a troll coming from the spanish version of /.. It has been around from many years and it seems that finally the troll learned to writte in english.

You can take a look on the lots of versions of this same shit here lookig for the parents of the comments.

So, don't feed the troll!

Hi guys, I just want to advice that this post is just a c&p/traslation from a troll coming from the spanish version of /.. It has been around from many years and it seems that finally the troll learned to writte in english.

You can take a look on the lots of versions of this same shit here lookig for the parents of the comments.

So, don't feed the troll!

slashdot in spain

http://barrapunto.com/ I believe the title literally translates to "Slashdot"

The difference between the two Cells it is not "abysmal", let's do some comparisons:

a) PS3 "Classic Cell" 1 PPC64 w/ 2 threads and 7 SPEs (8, but one disabled, defective or not):

GFLOPS 32-bit (float): 3.2GHz * 8 FLOPS/Hz * 7 SPEs = 179.2 GFLOPS
GFLOPS 64-bit (double): 3.2GHz * 1 FLOPS/Hz * 7 SPEs = 22.4 GFLOPS (huge penalty, because of simulation via unoptimized simple precission operation)
GFLOPS 64-bit (double) a optimized 32-bit operation: 3.2GHz * 3.9 FLOPS/Hz * 7 SPEs = 87.36 GFLOPS

b) Roadrunner "New Cell" 1 PPC64 w/ 2 threads and 8 SPEs:

GFLOPS 32-bit (float): 4GHz * 8 FLOPS/Hz * 8 SPEs = 256 GFLOPS
GFLOPS 64-bit (double): 4GHz * 4 FLOPS/Hz * 8 SPEs = 128 GFLOPS

P.S. ad hoc rewrite, based on my own Journal at Barrapunto (spanish /.).

Click here to read the original in spanish (for completeness' sake).

Wonderful!! We spanish are exporting trolls!!! XD XD XD XD (This is a very old trolling comment from spanish slashdot, very well translated. In barrapunto it has become a traditional joke just like the CowboyNeal references here.

So, if someone were to create a Slashdot.us site, Slashdot would have to file against them. If they didn't, slashdot would become a generic term like aspirin that anyone could use.

How do you explain this then?

What you say has already happened.

There is also an Ad for banning OpenXML as ISO standard.
(I agree with its arguments)

In the end, most users at Barrapunto are also usual suspects^W./'ers (the spanish side it is interesting as it is focused on local events, politics, it's written in spanish -the english is still a handicap for many here in Spain- etc.; although, it has to be noted that Barrapunto is tiny in comparison to Slashdot, as the second has a huge community -receives worldwide contributions-).

A recurrent motto, as a joke, is "Barrapunto no es lo que era" ("Barrapunto is not what it was used to be").

Actually, we usually have our own "Candyman answer". We're soooooooooo original! :-)

Pfft, I hacked CowboyNeals account

Bizarro Slashdot, where I have a 5 digit ID!
http://barrapunto.com/~Ambiguous+Puzuma

The SPARCs run poorly for years, years, ...

http://barrapunto.com/article.pl?sid=07/08/08/1045 237&threshold=-1&mode=nested#942700

1st. SGI Altix (ia-64): 6.64 ptos/GHz-cores.
2nd. HP Integrity (ia-64): 7.48 ptos/GHz-cores.
3rd. Sun Fire (sparc64): 3.99 ptos/GHz-cores. qué malo!
4th. Fujitsu SPARC (sparc64): 3.61 ptos/GHz-cores. malísimo!
5th. IBM System (ppc64): 5.45 ptos/GHz-cores.
6th. Proliant (amd64): 4.00 ptos/GHz-cores.

http://barrapunto.com/article.pl?sid=07/07/21/1720 204&threshold=-1&mode=nested#936649

http://translate.google.com/

"I tried to address that myth -- the "Fedora is just a trial ground for RHEL" statement"

It's only it is *not* a myth.

I really like Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier's assertion at http://os.newsforge.com/print.pl?sid=06/04/10/2156 233 : "Fedora founder Warren Togami's "Welcome to Fedora" talk dealt with the history of Fedora, and how Fedora operates. Togami spent a fair amount of time emphasizing how important Fedora is to Red Hat's business, and trying to dispel the notion that Fedora is only a "perpetual beta" for Red Hat's enterprise products. This was tricky, since Fedora _is_ a perpetual beta for Red Hat's enterprise products."

Indeed, the fact that you are trying to hide Red Hat's track on this it's fastly changing my mind about the project: I am one of those that time after time goes with the "Fedora is just a trial ground for RHEL" statement, well, not exactly, since I say "Fedora is THE trial ground for RHEL" (the difference albeit subtile is VERY important), trying to avoid bad temper derivated from the fact that Fedora badly fails at people that approach it under wrong assumptions (you just have to see the comments on this article) and expecting to help those looking at Fedora to take out most benefit from it, but now, I'm seeing you are trying to take advantage after the fact that so much people is using Fedora for the wrong reasons to enwiden your user-base, so expect me counter-acting by saying that Fedora is (partly, at least) a fraud. It still *IS* the trial ground for RHEL but now I have to add: beware, it is a lockin strategy from Red Hat Inc. so newcomers get used on a redhatish platform that will NEVER acomplish production-grade quality so, once you are tied to it you must move into RHEL products for whatever serious enterprises you attempt in the future.

Just a pill:
"In addition to the nine board members, there is also a chairman appointed by Red Hat, who has veto power over any decision." (from http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Board)

That's a *fact*, anything else (...but we will try not to use our veto-power, we are good guys, etc.) are just words.

Do you expect Fedora going in ANY MANNER against Red Hat Inc.'s best interests (like... making it lose the sell of any single RHEL license)?

Anyway, that's really an old thread. I can certainly be wrong, but we can go back to jun 2003 to say what my opinions were back then here http://barrapunto.com/comments.pl?sid=35398&cid=19 9047 or here http://barrapunto.com/comments.pl?sid=41775&cid=30 8108 . Both links are from the Spanish Slashdot "brother". Anyone can judge how wrong I were/am.

"I tried to address that myth -- the "Fedora is just a trial ground for RHEL" statement"

It's only it is *not* a myth.

I really like Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier's assertion at http://os.newsforge.com/print.pl?sid=06/04/10/2156 233 : "Fedora founder Warren Togami's "Welcome to Fedora" talk dealt with the history of Fedora, and how Fedora operates. Togami spent a fair amount of time emphasizing how important Fedora is to Red Hat's business, and trying to dispel the notion that Fedora is only a "perpetual beta" for Red Hat's enterprise products. This was tricky, since Fedora _is_ a perpetual beta for Red Hat's enterprise products."

Indeed, the fact that you are trying to hide Red Hat's track on this it's fastly changing my mind about the project: I am one of those that time after time goes with the "Fedora is just a trial ground for RHEL" statement, well, not exactly, since I say "Fedora is THE trial ground for RHEL" (the difference albeit subtile is VERY important), trying to avoid bad temper derivated from the fact that Fedora badly fails at people that approach it under wrong assumptions (you just have to see the comments on this article) and expecting to help those looking at Fedora to take out most benefit from it, but now, I'm seeing you are trying to take advantage after the fact that so much people is using Fedora for the wrong reasons to enwiden your user-base, so expect me counter-acting by saying that Fedora is (partly, at least) a fraud. It still *IS* the trial ground for RHEL but now I have to add: beware, it is a lockin strategy from Red Hat Inc. so newcomers get used on a redhatish platform that will NEVER acomplish production-grade quality so, once you are tied to it you must move into RHEL products for whatever serious enterprises you attempt in the future.

Just a pill:
"In addition to the nine board members, there is also a chairman appointed by Red Hat, who has veto power over any decision." (from http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Board)

That's a *fact*, anything else (...but we will try not to use our veto-power, we are good guys, etc.) are just words.

Do you expect Fedora going in ANY MANNER against Red Hat Inc.'s best interests (like... making it lose the sell of any single RHEL license)?

Anyway, that's really an old thread. I can certainly be wrong, but we can go back to jun 2003 to say what my opinions were back then here http://barrapunto.com/comments.pl?sid=35398&cid=19 9047 or here http://barrapunto.com/comments.pl?sid=41775&cid=30 8108 . Both links are from the Spanish Slashdot "brother". Anyone can judge how wrong I were/am.

I guess so... The same value jump is there in May for the "spanish slashdot" website, http://barrapunto.com/ http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details? &range=1y&size=medium&compare_sites=&y=r&url=www.b arrapunto.com#top

There is: Barrapunto.com

In the Spanish version of Slashdot (Barrapunto) there is a history about Cómo convertir Barcelona en un Silicon Valley (How convert Barcelona in other Silicon Valley). There are some interesting ideas about technology business and Spain economy.

This was covered in Barrapunto, the Spanish /. clon, last week. The Miró family is notorious for doing things like this; contributing very little to his memory, while filling their pockets with the fruit of the work they didn't do. The morons want to take credit for someone doing something resembling something someone else did decades ago. There are so many levels of indirection that it's hard to follow, but that's the truth.

Google is such an event that some people use it to make competition to know who can make number one for the search Microsano (spanish).

Barrapunto, slashdot's spanish-speaking sister, has something like this. Basically, it's a decent frontend to journals. They have search-by-user, and most-active-journals as links on the left-hand nav bar.

A hybrid of the moderation system and the journal system, given its own pseudo-section or something, would not only rock beyond words, it would probably crush the digg exodus (and beat barrapunto too, if you consider the digg rivalry irrelevant). Most of the code for this is already in place in other parts of the site.

Hmmm...

Quien modera? (Puntos:-1, Fuera de Tema) por pobrecito hablador el Jueves, 22 de Diciembre 2005, a las 15:29h (n664129)

Quien se ha quedado moderando? Para el caso mejor que cerreis la página hasta despues de las fiestas. Devolved a Richelieu al psiquiatrico, que despues se transforma en Menguele, etc.

Agreed. You can look at all the books you want but all you ever end up doing is translating. It is really about immersion and repitition. One class at a community college won't do it. You'll get the basics and then forget everything quickly. I have also found that having a good english background helps in learning a language as well. You have to know what you're saying and how you're saying it before you can try to say it in another language. I've learned a lot about the english language by studying spanish. There are web sites that can hook you up with a pen pal whose native language is the one you are trying to learn that is trying to learn your language also. There is also the spanish equivalent to /. over at barrapunto.

This directive had been previously discussed in Spain in barrapunto, and we got to the conclusion that it's a head-on collision against three important articles of our Constitution (by important I mean they're essential rights and won't be easily changed).

Back in April a bill was passed that was supposed to crack on "express kidnappings" by making telcos hold more data on cellphone calls (often used in this kind of crime), but it was extended to internet traffic and suddenly ISPs would have to keep records of users email, sites visited, etc. for 10 years. When the news broke what the government wanted to do, the negative response was so big that the president vetoed the law and proposed a rewriting almost immediately. Barrapunto (Spanish Slashdot) story on the veto

Let's go to barrapunto and say that to me on my face, if you have balls. Rojo!. Etarra!. Enemigo de la libertad!.

A litle of please...

http://barrapunto.com/journal.pl?op=display&uid=46 86&id=13459

My regional government (Junta de Andalucia) has just announced they will free all the software developed for them (Andalucia, Spain).

You can read about it here the Spanish version of slashdot http://barrapunto.com/article.pl?sid=05/03/02/0921 215

No me lo creo http://barrapunto.com/articles/05/02/13/091250.sht ml Esta vez hemos llegado antes

http://barrapunto.com/

A Linux/tech news and discussion site in Spanish built on Slashcode. Like /. but not as active. Has contributors and posters from both Spain and Latin America.

According to http://barrapunto.com/article.pl?sid=03/01/11/0729 244/ "bluyins" will be added to a dictionary.

Dentro de poco, podremos decir 'me he comprado unos bluyins' para expresar 'unos blue jeans (pantalones vaqueros)'. Esto es lo que se desprende de esta noticia de un periódico vasco. La Real Academia de la Lengua está preparando un Diccionario Panhispánico de Dudas con nuevas acepciones ortográficas de varios términos habituales en el idioma español.

At the spanish version of Slashdot there is some other information in the article Código Abierto y Libre en Swahili.
Some Swahili:
# Safari - Travel
# Bwana - Mister
# Simba - Lion
# Hakuna matata - No problem
# Rafiki - Friend

I have to use a proxy to browse Slashdot from my home connection (and had to do the same from my office connection for a while).

For some reason, Slashdot has decided to ban whole ranges from the biggest providers in Spain.

Right now, more than half of the Spanish internet population is banned from Slashdot. This was virtually the whole Spain for some time.


I've written several emails to Rob "CmdrTaco" Malda, only to receive a "hey, I'm sorry about that" and I still have to use a proxy.

You can read more about this here (Spanish)

One of the ranges cut off was Telefónica's Proxy-cache. This alone leaves out the majority of the Spanish internet population when it's incidentally turned on.

/me es "Gringo Desconocido" en Barrapunto. Lástima que yo no hable catalán.

Okay after a massive night of trolling the international Slashdots: slashdot.jp and barrapunto.com, I received a few responses. One of the posts is here. Could somebody translate that? I can see the word "the dinosaur", but I don't know what the rest of the gibberish is. Perhaps the dude is saying "You are a mother fucker, Megalozilla. The dinosaur something"? Babelfish is no help.

Okay after a massive night of trolling the international Slashdots: slashdot.jp and barrapunto.com, I received a few responses. One of the posts is here. Could somebody translate that? I can see the word "the dinosaur", but I don't know what the rest of the gibberish is. Perhaps the dude is saying "You are a mother fucker, Megalozilla. The dinosaur something"? Babelfish is no help.

in a recent post i saw a link posted to slashdot.jp. i'd also like to inform everyone that there is also a slashdot for the spanish speaking world at barrapunto.org

We asked the same question in the spanish sister site, Barrapunto, and the winner was the aforementioned TFT screen.
Interestingly, very few voted for a slashdot subscription. Many wanted a barrapunto tee.
It's not too late. You can still vote.

We asked the same question in the spanish sister site, Barrapunto, and the winner was the aforementioned TFT screen.
Interestingly, very few voted for a slashdot subscription. Many wanted a barrapunto tee.
It's not too late. You can still vote.

No kidding, Ian would be pretty happy. Or maybe Ian should learn when is right to use something and when it isn't. He missed Public Relations 101, sadly.

Originally, Slashcode (on Slashdot) would accept any international character. It would even accept HTML entities so you could easily enter these characters in a way that even if the database could only store 7-bit ASCII, they would still come out to the user. And I know Slashcode is capable of international characters.

Only recently has this ability been removed. It always used to be capable of international characters. I don't know why, but I would guess they decided to remove accents "due to trolls" or something. But there's no reason why Slashcode can't display or accept international characters, because it used to accept international characters.

So calling Slashdot arrogant for their removal of characters is completely warrented. They are aware of international issues, but they actually took action to remove accents and foreign characters.

(And may calling them "internation characters" is a real example of American arrogance :).)

vayase a barrapunto, por favor