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2) There is also evidence to suggest that eating out can be cheaper than eating at home for many.

The linked article completely ignores quantity of food when comparing the supermarket price to the restaurant. The amount of groceries listed is sufficient for many dishes, compared to one for the restaurant.

If you are willing to eat leftovers for days, it really doesn't take much time or money to cook. Just make a big pot and eat it for a week. Sure, if you want to get all extravagant, it's gonna take time and money. But then it isn't fair to compare it with fast food.

No wonder so many people get trapped in a cycle of poverty.

You think eating out is what traps people in poverty? You might want to learn about poverty traps and their causes. There are lots of causes of poverty. Eating out is not a meaningful cause.

That's more than every other day! And the latest figure is still more than every other day.

If you look at the number of restaurants out there (and the obesity statistics) this should not surprise anyone. People like to look down their nose publicly at McDonalds and the like but the simple fact is that vast numbers of people eat at these places routinely regardless of what they actually say. You think they stay in business because people are eating at home? People LIKE to eat out, they like fast food, and honestly a lot of the food tastes better than what many people can cook themselves.

WTF people, the fastest way to save money is to not eat out; doesn't everyone know that??

Several points on that. Basically your thesis isn't necessarily supported by the facts.
1) There is plenty of evidence to suggest that eating healthy tends to be more expensive than eating badly, at least in the short term. Even if you do manage to save money (which can be done) it's going to come at the cost of an investment of time and energy.
2) There is also evidence to suggest that eating out can be cheaper than eating at home for many.
3) Eating at home requires having the time to prepare the food. Speaking as someone with a young child and a working wife this time can be hard to come by for many people even if you would prefer it.
4) Eating at home does not necessarily equal eating healthier nor does it necessarily equal costing less. It CAN but it often doesn't.
5) Many people don't know how to shop economically in grocery stores and grocery stores have no incentive to help.
6) Food culture is as subject to fads as anything else. One should expect to see variation over time in where and how people eat their food.

Half of the recipients probably will be Amazon employees.

In 2017 Amazon had a total of 566K employees. Various estimates claim, as many as 10% of them are on Food Stamps — or living with someone, who is. That makes for 56.6K people.

Dividing half of the $2 billion pledged by Bezos over the 56600 amounts to a rather generous $17+K per person...

OMG, a car caught fire - quick, get breathless overcoverage of it! Wait, you already did? Good!

There's one car fire in the US for every 20 million miles driven and one fatality per 85 million miles.

Teslas have been driven 9 billion miles. This should correspond to 450 fires and 106 deaths.

Where are they?

Concerning fires, here's a list of Tesla fires between 1 January 2013 and 11 March 2018, which is the vast majority of Tesla miles. The total count? 14. Vs. an expected 450.

Concerning fatalities, three months ago an anti-Tesla Twitter account added up the number of deaths in Teslas and arrived at 34. Note that many of these occurred in other countries like China that have a much higher road fatality rate than the US. It's still a third of the expected number for US-only driving of that many miles.

Let's look at the newest Teslas, shall we - the Model 3? So far there have been no fatalities and no reports of fires in customer cars (there was one Model 3 found up for scrap that had been gutted by fire, but it was "Location: Fremont" with 1 mile on the odometer, so clearly something that happened at the factory. Also, the fire damage was heaviest on the bumper, where it had melted the alumium - but hadn't managed to do so over the pack itself. So it's not clear that a battery fire was actually involved). But how many miles have been driven for this rate of "0/1 fires and 0 deaths"?

Lacking specific numbers, the best we can do is estimate. The average driver drives around 12k miles per year. Owners of new cars put significantly more miles on them during their first year, and particularly first few months because - obviously - it's a new car that they bought because they wanted to drive it. Bloomberg says there were around 25k made in the past month (0-1m ago), 19k in the previous month (1-2m ago), then 13,5k (2-3m ago), then 9k (3-4m ago), the 9k (4-5m ago), then 6,5k (5-6m ago), and 9k earlier than that. So around 19k*(30k/12)*0,5 + 13,5k*(30k/12)*1,5 + 9k*(26k/12)*2,5 + 9k*(23k/12)*3,5 + 6,5k*(21k/12)*4,5 + 9k*(18k/12)*6 = ~315M miles. Meaning if they were gasoline cars we should expect 16 fires and 3 1/2 deaths. Where are they?

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You may consider them naive for believing the tech companies are telling the truth about what it does and does not listen for. If so, I consider you naive for believing that the tech companies could get away with such a lie.

I don't believe my Android phone was designed to randomly pocket dial 911 but it does so anyway. What's the stats on Android pocket dialing nuisance calls to 911? How many MILLIONS per year?

Turns out there is no rational input filtering from the digitizer allowing absurdly stupid superhuman rates of button presses to register. Couple that with crummy unlock dance and you have low probability events happening thousands of times per day that don't need to due to lack of attention to detail.

It's not that they are secretly recording you for no reason it's that wake word detection is not fit for purpose. To be blunt it sucks ass. It's incapable of effectively mitigating against uncommanded activation. They simply don't care enough to take the issue seriously. Anyone whose around a smart speaker will see it activating for no reason now and again. Anyone wanting to collect data or collect cheap points will shout a command on the radio or TV and it will be picked up and processed.

https://www.zdnet.com/article/...

https://www.wired.com/2017/02/...

https://www.businessinsider.co...

It's pretty easy to monitor network traffic

No way. It's all encrypted. Google speaker has half a gig of RAM. Low bitrate codecs with silence detection can store weeks of conversations easily and batch it out under cover of an actual activation or updates or any such shit.

I'm not asserting this is happening but the claim it's easy to monitor especially when you don't trust the vendor to act underhandedly is totally bogus.

Since at least 2013, Apple DOES at least Assemble some of their Products in the USA, and are actively taking steps to increase those numbers:

https://www.statesman.com/busi...

https://www.apple.com/newsroom...

https://www.businessinsider.co...

https://www.apple.com/newsroom...

I'll take the bait. :) Here are some studies and information that you can review and see that the conclusion is that 8 hours is even too long. But that's for normal people, and normal people don't code in 20+ hour marathon sessions, nor do normal people focus on a single thing for multiple hours at a time. Normal people also wouldn't be able to accomplish what some can because they can do such feats. Much like not everyone can read a defense and frustrate it like Tom Brady or regularly score like Messi or Ronaldo.

Does Amazon pay taxes? Here's some links from left, right, and center-tending media:
https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2018/may/03/bernie-s/amazon-paid-0-federal-income-taxes-2017/
https://www.businessinsider.com/amazon-not-paying-taxes-trump-bezos-2018-4
https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/amazon-earned-5-6b-in-2017-but-paid-no-federal-taxes
https://itep.org/amazon-inc-paid-zero-in-federal-taxes-in-2017-gets-789-million-windfall-from-new-tax-law/
https://splinternews.com/amazon-made-5-6-billion-in-profits-last-year-and-repor-1823329221

The investors in Theranos were an example of people being extremely ignorant of technology. Someone who understood would ask a few questions and immediately determine something was wrong.

An example of someone who asked a few questions in 2013: Bill Maris: Here's why Google Ventures didn't invest in Theranos (Oct. 20, 2015 article)

Quote:

"We looked at it a couple times, but there was so much hand-waving -- like, Look over here! -- that we couldn't figure it out," Maris tells Business Insider. "So, we just had someone from our life-science investment team go into Walgreens and take the test. And it wasn't that difficult for anyone to determine that things may not be what they seem here."

No kidding. The real question was why anybody let it get as far as it did.

The answer is not one anybody that wants to hear. She was a young, pretty woman. She was perfect for magazine covers, men turned off their brains, and ... yes, she was a woman CEO! And a "woman in tech"! How many more boxes could she possibly check?

She couldn't possibly have had the deck stacked any more for her. The only thing she lacked was a working product ...

The investors in Theranos were an example of people being extremely ignorant of technology. Someone who understood would ask a few questions and immediately determine something was wrong.

An example of someone who asked a few questions in 2013: Bill Maris: Here's why Google Ventures didn't invest in Theranos (Oct. 20, 2015 article)

Quote:

"We looked at it a couple times, but there was so much hand-waving -- like, Look over here! -- that we couldn't figure it out," Maris tells Business Insider. "So, we just had someone from our life-science investment team go into Walgreens and take the test. And it wasn't that difficult for anyone to determine that things may not be what they seem here."

Long term, Tesla will face a serious issue with their build costs. That's where the majors will clean their clocks. They know how to run the supply chain, drive costs down on volume and build cars accurately and quickly. Tesla will struggle there too. Their margin for error is very small.

On the other hand, Tesla built their own battery factory, and they get all the batteries they need at the lowest possible cost. Battery cost is a huge chunk of the cost of an EV.

The Chevy Bolt is believed to sell at a $9000 loss per car; EV credits make up the difference. Chevy doesn't have a battery factory.

So will the new Mercedes EV be a low-volume car like the Bolt, profitable mainly due to EV credits? For it to really hurt Tesla, Mercedes would have to be able to undercut Tesla on cost while still being profitable. This seems unlikely to me.

Also, it appears that Tesla has smoothed out the problems with the Model 3 factory. I expect them now to build one, or even two, additional factories (first one in China, second one in Europe) to make batteries and cars. If Tesla gets three factories going, building 5000 cars per week at each factory, and making USD$10000 per car... that would be quite a revenue stream. And Tesla can get there faster than Mercedes or any other legacy car maker can.

Tesla could have been strangled in its crib when it was a baby. I think it's too late now and Tesla is going to be huge.

India, a nation of street shitters [planetcustodian.com].

Kinda like San Francisco is becoming?

Colonialism is an emergent property of power:

https://www.businessinsider.co...

What the Powers That Be don't like is gold. Keynes called it a "barbarous relic" and Warren Buffett derided it. But, central banks have bought a lot of it. Some countries have tried to limit its private ownership, now and in the past.

Currencies started out as mutually valued, divisible objects. Wampum, cowry shells, etc. For whatever reasons, everyone valued gold. It was divisible, didn't tarnish, didn't burn - essentially indestructible. It had all the qualities of an excellent means of exchange and a store of value, over the millennia.

Then people started putting gold into storage and using slips of paper which represented that gold. They could get gold for their slips of paper at any time. The system grew. Fractional-reserve banking was discovered (you can lend out more than you have in your vault because everyone is not going to try and withdraw at once). Emergent properties appeared. People stopped using gold to transact altogether. In 1971, the US "gold window" was closed - cash could not be redeemed for gold. The system continued to function (though the price of gold skyrocketed, and around that time is the mark is the stagnation of the wages of the lower wealth percentiles of society. Coincidence? Maybe, maybe not. Side note: it seems to me to be much easier to skim paper you're printing, and to distribute it to your favored partners than it is to skim gold. But that's another topic).

Fast forward to today, and people are moving away from even using the slips of paper, going to cashless systems where only the balances of an account are tracked. "Purchasing power" is now totally virtual. Some countries and economists are pushing "cashless societies" (Note: most economists missed the oncoming 2008 Financial Crisis).

The digital accounts represent cash. Cash used to represent gold. Now it just represents "purchasing power". What does bitcoin represent that is mutually valued?

Apple isn't doing well in China either.

Trump could not win a majority in economical brackets, except for 50-100K. In the end, trump won by having large numbers of uneducated vote for him, in the red states.
Hopefully, lessig's lawsuit on representation, to SCOTUS, will be seen and won.

Where are you getting your information. Waymo handles emergency vehicles and at least claims to handle rain and fog.

I hope they're deep enough to keep away from Paul Allen's yacht. In 2016 the anchor dragged through the Cayman Island's coral reef and destroyed it: https://www.businessinsider.co...

You're full of shit.

https://www.businessinsider.com/miami-floods-sea-level-rise-solutions-2018-4

"Miami and Miami Beach already struggle with serious flooding related to sea-level rise — even when there is no rain"

The controversy involves a plan to move all of the Defense Department's data -- classified and unclassified -- on to the cloud.

That is an excellent idea! It should be rolled out as soon as possible.

Sincerely,

China.

There are already 200+ providers that are 800-37 compliant, or are in the process of getting products authorized. The DoD has 47 vendors on there. AWS has 184 authorizations, MS has 86; they are the top 2.

I suspect once Trump groks this, he will FREAK out. He seems to have a huge amount of hatred for Amazon, so I would expect him just ordering the DoD to not do this if AWS is going to be the provider...not sure if he will have any other solutions.

Personally, I think anything that falls under 800-53 should NOT be outsourced in any way; you can't properly lock down the underlying AWS; you don't have access to their actual infrastructure. How would you audit that all the switches that your data travels across have the proper DoD login banners, or restricting SNMP by IP address? Maybe they already do all this; but a "small breach" could become "keys to the kingdom" to a huge amount of information.

https://www.businessinsider.co...

Lol I saw this story today and I remembered this thread. I love the stupidity of gold fetishists.
[quote]
The precious metal is down 8% so far in 2018, and nearly 14% on an annualized basis — making it the worst-performing major asset class this year according to Bank of America Merrill Lynch.[/quote]

I especially love when they go into long detailed defenses of gold with lots of smart sounding words and references to historical crap...the smug, well read idiots.

Compare to the ratio of complaint to praise in other industries...usually when practically (if perhaps not literally?) everyone who has worked at a job says the job sucks, and undercover investigations by journalists confirm that the job sucks, we believe them.

WHAT election fraud? None has been shown, and President Obama stated such, emphatically, well after the election.

He said no voter fraud. That isn't the same as election tampering.

Seriously, the ONLY fraud going on here is the belief there is a Trump/Russia connection. NOTHING has been shown. There's been a few convictions and plea bargains related to tax issues from years ago - and nothing from the Trump campaign. Nothing.

You're right. There's absolutely no evidence out there that Trump colluded with the Russians except the Manafort thing, and the Flynn thing, and the Papadopoulos pleading guilty thing, and the Roger Stone thing, and the Cohen thing, and the Kushner thing, and the Carter Page thing, and the Jeff Sessions things, and the Wilbur Ross thing, and the JD Gordon thing, and the Erik Prince thing, and the James Comey firing thing, and the Russian hacking/Wikileaks thing, and the bro-love between TrumPutin thing, and the Russian propaganda machine favoring Trump thing, and the DJT "I have zero ties to Russia!" thing, and the Eric Trump "we get most of our financing from Russian banks thing", and the Donald Trump Jr. "Our portfolio is made up of a disproportionate amount of Russian money" thing, and the DJT "I sold a $60 million mansion to a Russian oligarch known for money laundering for $120 million that he never once lived in " thing, and the Trump business ties with Putin's favorite sports athlete Fedor Emilianenko thing, and the Trump International Corporation's mysterious private server connection to Alfa Bank, Russia's largest commercial bank thing, and Russians guaranteeing sales of Trump properties so he can get backing thing, and sales of Trump properties to LLCs (who can hide their identity) going from 4% to 70% in the two years leading up to the election thing, and the Special prosecutor being named thing, and the I won't release my tax returns thing, and the Ivanka Trump's vacationing with Putin's girlfriend thing, and the 2013 Miss Universe Pageant in Moscow thing, and the Trump companies business ties to Felix Sater, a criminal felon indicted for stock fraud scheme with the Russian mafia thing, and the FL Group Icelandic hedge fund with massive ties to Putin being heavily invested in Trump Soho thing, and the Rex Tillerson/Exxon ties to Russia thing, and the Russian ambassador at Trump Tower sneaking in and out thing, and part of the dossier being corroborated thing, the Trump tried to roll back Russian sanctions the minute he got elected thing. And the Cambridge Analytica thing. And the Trump advocating for Russia to be allowed into the G7 again thing, And Trump mentioning Russia hacking the DNCs emails the same day they did thing. And the Russians funneling money through the NRA thing, and Trump’s private meeting and subsequent fealty display thing, and the Trump being afraid to be interviewed by Mueller under oath thing, and the stripping people who might testify against Trump and people in his administration of their security clearance thing... Other than that, there's absolutely no reason to suspect anything. [Shamelessly stolen from teh intarwebz.]

WHAT election fraud? None has been shown, and President Obama stated such, emphatically, well after the election. Seriously, the ONLY fraud going on here is the belief there is a Trump/Russia connection. NOTHING has been shown. There's been a few convictions and plea bargains related to tax issues from years ago - and nothing from the Trump campaign. Nothing.

Intel is AMAZINGLY self-destructive, IMO!

Intel says this: Intel's Brian Krzanich is forced out as CEO after 'consensual relationship' with employee. Another story: New details emerge on the office affair that led to Intel CEO Brian Krzanich's surprising resignation on Thursday.

Do you believe this quote? "The office affair which sparked Intel CEO Brian Krzanich's surprise resignation on Thursday started a decade ago and ended before he became CEO in 2013, The Wall Street Journal reported."

I'm guessing that Intel is trying to hide the real reasons that CEO Brian Krzanich is no longer CEO: 1) The Sceptre and Meltdown vulnerabilities in nearly all Intel CPUs, problems that began with former CEO Paul S. Otellini. 2) He used inside information to profit: Intel was aware of the chip vulnerability when its CEO sold off $24 million in company stock.

The new Intel CEO is Robert Swan. He joined Intel in September 2016 as CFO.

One of the most self-destructive acts is to appear to lie. Then everything else is examined as also possibly a lie.

Intel is AMAZINGLY self-destructive, IMO!

Intel says this: Intel's Brian Krzanich is forced out as CEO after 'consensual relationship' with employee. Another story: New details emerge on the office affair that led to Intel CEO Brian Krzanich's surprising resignation on Thursday.

Do you believe this quote? "The office affair which sparked Intel CEO Brian Krzanich's surprise resignation on Thursday started a decade ago and ended before he became CEO in 2013, The Wall Street Journal reported."

I'm guessing that Intel is trying to hide the real reasons that CEO Brian Krzanich is no longer CEO: 1) The Sceptre and Meltdown vulnerabilities in nearly all Intel CPUs, problems that began with former CEO Paul S. Otellini. 2) He used inside information to profit: Intel was aware of the chip vulnerability when its CEO sold off $24 million in company stock.

The new Intel CEO is Robert Swan. He joined Intel in September 2016 as CFO.

One of the most self-destructive acts is to appear to lie. Then everything else is examined as also possibly a lie.

You mean like Bitcoin conferences?

This from a guy whose party has sanitized the killing of tens of millions of its own people, is now ruler for life, has a social credit score to force people to behave according to the CCP's wishes, could care less about the 300 million people in abject poverty without regular access to clean water, and won't acknowledge the Tiananmen Square massacre to the point of banning the term "63+1", or 6/4.

Yeah, you can go fuck yourself Xi Jinping. We'll keep trying to show your people how the rest of the world works and hopefully they'll finish what was started in 1989.

Wow, full on delusion! We do not have better benefits, more time off, or more job security today than we had in the '70s, we have less of each.

I didn't say they were "better", I said we force employers to spend more money on it. Usually, things that people are forced to spend money on end up being worse.

But we do, in fact, work fewer hours.

Now how about answering my question. You implied that Reagan's supply-side economics was responsible for the stagnation of the middle class. Reagan's supply side economics delivered what he promised: more tax revenues from high income earners. So, you still haven't explained how getting more tax revenue from high income earners is responsible for the stagnation of the middle class over subsequent decades.

TigerPlish has this right - plus streaming services DO use the fact that you stopped after 15 minutes.

For instance, check out this article about why "Everything Sucks" was cancelled by Netflix: https://www.businessinsider.co...

I've read several articles about how Spotify uses a track's "skip rate" (how many people skip it after listening to just a small amount of it) to judge whether to move it from smaller playlists up to bigger playlists - and whether or not to recommend more songs like that to you.

Another crazy example is that Netflix pays attention to the type of _artwork_ (icon) you like to stop on or click. For any given show there are dozens of possible icons... and Netflix serves up the one it thinks will be most enticing to you: https://medium.com/netflix-tec...

This is true "big data" - these services collect every single thing you do so they can tailor the service to you.

post A: "women ... are ... gullible idiots who can be readily manipulated by modern marketing methods.
strongly implied in post A: *only* women are gullible idiots.
post B: men are gullible idiots too. Here are some cases where that happened.

The problem is that because of US market realities, it is *mostly* women who *actually* get manipulated by modern marketing methods. Men would be too, if they were interesting to marketers...but they mostly aren't. So they don't.

What malice? It's a fact of life that women, accounting for the majority of spending in the US, are the primary target for most marketing efforts. So is the fact that they will continue to be influenced by marketing efforts until they consciously decide not to be.

Here's the history of the product

https://www.businessinsider.co...

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Distribution is a service.

When economists talk about "distribution", then mean the distribution and allocation of goods and services. Economists don't care what logo is on the truck making shipments. They care about how many trucks are going to what places.

Capitalists see subsidies as Lemon Socialism. Liberals see subsides as a form of capitalism. The capitalists have a better claim: The TARP bank bailout, and the auto industry bailout were both passed by Democrats, and opposed by Republicans.

Partisanship somehow changes the merits of an argument? That's an... interesting... approach to debate. Politics aside, it's worth noting that the auto bailout ended up costing the US government about $14 billion, while TARP as a whole (including the auto bailout) actually ended up turning a $86 billion profit overall. All together, the program seems to have done exactly what it was intended to do: reduce the shock of the financial crisis, stabilizing the economy to protect against further snowball effects.

Your partisan analysis of subsidies also doesn't mesh with a socialist perspective. To a socialist, subsidies are a governmental decision that something risky is of such benefit to society that the risk (financial or otherwise) should be offset. In a totalitarian state like the USSR or DPRK, the state-run company in that area would just go order work on that project... and open the door to corruption because the state will ensure the project's success, no matter how poorly it's managed or how wasteful it may be. With private industry, however, the subsidies have to be financial offsets, either ensuring a minimum income or covering some expenses outright.

What's offensive to a socialist is the use of subsidies and financial incentives to support projects that aren't directly in the public interest. For example, I know of a particular company that promised to upgrade their factory in a small town, but only if they got a nice tax cut for a few decades (similar to a more-publicized event). While that made for nice headlines about "creating jobs", it hurt the town in the long run. Since the company's normal taxes were a significant percentage of the town's budget, local projects actually lost funding in order to keep the town's budget balanced. Sure, some folks got a new shiny office building, but the high school roof started collapsing.

Unfortunately, that's been a recurring theme with American government policies lately. A notable example is the coal industry, which is subsidized by about $850 million annually, yet only employs about 77,000 people. That's about an $11,000 cost per person per year, ostensibly to keep those 77,000 jobs. The question is, of course, whether we need those jobs as a society. To a socialist, that $11,000 would likely be better spent funding career education and training to support other industries (or even bringing new skills to the coal industry), with the key benefit being that even if the coal industry collapsed, the society would still have a larger wealth of skills to continue progress.

Again, it's a matter of philosophy. The socialists want societal improvement to be the primary goal of government, with industries benefiting indirectly. Who actually owns the company is relatively insignificant at this point.

Softbank was not trying to buy Tesla, not last year, not last month.

Hate to break it to you...

There is not even speculation of indication of interest from Apple.

Yeah, keep telling yourself that.

Google did not buy Tesla when it was allegedly offered to them for $5G, it ain't paying 10x that today.

It was precisely the other way around. Musk terminated the deal when Tesla had its first profitable quarter and no longer needed the cash. And it was for $6B at an $11B valuation, and that was when Tesla was a far smaller company.

The Saudis already indicated that they're not interested in holding more than what they already bought

Ref?

The rest of your rant is not even a speculation

For the record, what about "the rest" (written below) do you find "deranged"?

    * The Norwegian sovereign wealth fund (companies like Tesla are right up their alley, and Norway has the highest per-capita ownership of Teslas in the world)
    * China (various) (lately seems to throw money at pretty much anything that moves, particularly if it has a plug, and it was already announced that Tesla was working with local Chinese investors concerning Gigafactory 3)

>"Given the ambiguous data, $289M seems excessive"

That is a huge understatement. There is no proof Roundup caused his cancer at all, or any human cancer for that matter. Just remember where this circus is- California.... where EVERYONE is a victim and EVERYTHING causes cancer, including coffee and, somehow, Christmas tree lights.

https://www.popsci.com/califor...
https://www.businessinsider.co...

I'm sensing quite a bit of angst amongst the short troll crowd here. Good. Really the $420 price is a little bit of a gift. If Musk hadn't set a price, the stock could have gone up to $500 to $600 based on price speculation. That would have hurt! As it is, if you are leveraged, well then OUCH! Serves you right for peddling disinformation in a effort to destroy an innovative American company. Really I think trolls have a touch of psychopathy...you know, the same condition that in extreme cases afflicts serial killers. Well, if Tesla goes private, at least the trolls will mostly go away, as there won't be any profit in what they do.

This story goes way deeper. The parent company, Helios and Matheson Analytics, is a spin-off of Helios and Matheson Information Technology, an Indian ponzi scheme that defrauded between five and seven thousand investors, including the elderly and banks. The Indian principals' accounts in India are still frozen and the fraud investigation is still pending. Some of them were involved in the US H&M board or got hired as "consultants" to the US board for over $18K/month.

https://www.businessinsider.com/moviepass-has-deep-ties-to-indian-company-accused-of-fraud-2018-6

The newer US board and C-levels are serial penny-stock entrepreneurs in fields like psychic phone networks and marijuana vending machines.

The whole thing was always a blend of ponzi and pump and dump. They use hype to lure in investors, and they were wildly successful, running the stock up to 8000 less than a year ago and crashing it to less than a dollar.

Everyone who ever touched either Helios and Matheson needs to be investigated and held as a flight risk, especially the Indians who already fled India. This company needs to be prosecuted as an example and deterrent.

a bulldozer driver was killed, when his vehicle overturned. Couldn't they drive the bulldozer remotely?

There's no reason to use a remotely operated dozer to fight fires which doesn't also apply to every other use of a dozer. But doing that would be massively expensive, so we don't do that with any of them. Sadly, it is cheaper to hire another dozer driver. The most common causes of deaths of dozer operators are 1) rolling the dozer with them in it (or just sliding down a hill so far and fast that they are killed) or 2) parking the dozer and then walking around below it, and the soil shifting and the dozer falling on them.

There are remote-controlled robots that can climb stairs. Let's put a camera, mike and speaker on one of them, and send it into a burning building. The robot would search for people, and for a safe exit path for the people.

We do this already, though not so much in fires and more in structures in danger of collapse. In fires, we also want someone who can swing an ax, or carry an unconscious human. So we risk humans. Eventually when we have robots capable of doing all those jobs, we may switch to robots.

I'd love to see a team of chemists and experienced firefighters get together, and figure out a new, better way to put out fires. I don't mean to be sarcastic, but if it takes several days to put out a wildfire, then we need to figure out a better way to put it out.

Fire has becoming even more unpredictable than it always has been. Back in the Valley Fire seasoned firefighters were literally saying that the fires were exhibiting behaviors they've never seen before. Lately the big problem has been the increased incidence of fire tornadoes. They are created by winds which are created by fire, and filled with burning fuel of varying granularity all the way up to chunks of flaming wood the size of charcoal briquettes, which can be distributed across sizable areas by the tornadoes in question. This enables the fires to jump breaks that they would otherwise be unlikely to cross.

The chemists would be the experts in removing heat, fuel and oxygen from the fire. The firefighters would share their experience of what the environment is, when fighting a fire. They would say that a solution sounds good, but it won't work because in a real fire, the environment is too crowded, too windy, whatever.

Yeah, that's exactly what they say. When you have a big fire, you can reasonably do three things. You can concentrate on not letting it spread, you can smother it, or you can cool it. Consuming its oxygen doesn't usually work, especially once it's large, for the aforementioned reason that they create their own weather. They create heat updrafts which draw in more air, and if you consume the air that the fire is using, it's largely irrelevant because more air will rush in. Consuming the air before it got to the fire would essentially require another massive fire. You can try to consume the air by bombing, which does sometimes work, but note that the only reason that the Swedes were able to bomb their fire is that the fire was actually on a bombing range and there were no repercussions to bombing it some more.

This doesn't mean the problem can't be solved, but it does help explain why even though a lot of effort is spent on researching fire suppression, it doesn't often produce a lot of results. In the end, the best approach to fighting fires is to stop fighting fires. The natives of California deliberately set fires every year. These fires kept down both undergrowth that permits fire to spread r

I don't think Sarbanes Oxley law has been repealed. This type of stuff of counting pre-sales and shifted inventory doesn't fly anymore. They may count if they are sold to Best Buy for resell. But not the Apple Store.

The lower sales of phones, is in part that Apple Released two phones at the same time the iPhone 8 and the iPhone X. The iPhone X didn't sell as much as expected because the 8 was in "competition" with it. So they sold a little more 8 then expected and less of the X. Being the 8 and the X have been sold over the a few quarters. The This initial sales number and stories of lagging sales from early on are not so much valid anymore, as the excess inventory is sold off and production is adjusted to meet current demand.

OMG! Can it be? And actual, considered, erudite response on Slashdot?!?

Mods: Please Mod Parent WAY up!!!

Ok, assuming that this article from 2013 is still accurate, it appears that Apple counts retail sales (like from Best Buy) when the customer actually buys the phone; but sales to Carriers are counted when they are sold to the Carrier. But, as that article also points out, Apple does NOT actually deliberately "channel stuff" to artificially inflate sales figures.

https://www.businessinsider.co...

Apple hasn't achieved market saturation until Windows is at 10% and macOS at 90%, and not until Android is at 7% and iOS is at 95%.

You live on a different planet than the rest of us. On the planet we live on, Apple's smartphone market share peaked in 2009 at 48% and has declined steadily ever since, to less than 17% today. There is no reason to suppose that that trend will stop. Maybe it will eventually stabilize around 5% like the MacOS share of the PC market.

Well, how would we notice if the trend gasn't stopped already when that chart ends 4 years ago? All we know that the quarter we are currently talking about, Apple's marketshare grew. And the only one they could have taking it from is Android. Why don`t you predict doom for Android?

Apple hasn't achieved market saturation until Windows is at 10% and macOS at 90%, and not until Android is at 7% and iOS is at 95%.

You live on a different planet than the rest of us. On the planet we live on, Apple's smartphone market share peaked in 2009 at 48% and has declined steadily ever since, to less than 17% today. There is no reason to suppose that that trend will stop. Maybe it will eventually stabilize around 5% like the MacOS share of the PC market.

Hardly fair.

In 2009, there really wasn't any real competition for the iPhone.

And Mac share of the "Desktop" market is over 10%, twice what you claim.

But neither of those matter to the "point of saturation" figures I was stating.

After all, can Apple realistically convince its diehard cultists to fork over $2000 of their retirement savings each upgrade instead of just $1000?

Probably some very small percentage. Just like they found out with the iPhone X. It will certainly sell in lower volumes, but there may be enough of a market.

IPad is shrinking

The problem with the iPad is that people don't need to replace them frequently enough. Apple is a victim of their own success there.

Macs are the walking dead

Now there's some hyperbole for you. I'd be happy to take that "walking dead" off their hands (3.7M units).

and the smartwatch market isn't meeting expectations

Who's expectations? It's the best selling watch brand in the world.