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Ouch... sorry, not really funny for folks from BC. I couldn't help but think about the charges laid against Robert Pickton. A local farmer (including a few pigs) who is accused of killing several prostitutes from Vancouver. A reference for the interested.

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I don't think that's it. While we're still waiting for the investigation, it doesn't appear that this was a case of excessive use. After all, this summer has been much cooler than last, when no such problems occurred.

Rather, it appears that this was triggered by some sort of accident or anomolous event.

I empathize with those affected with the current power outage. The only problems WE had were putting on extra layers of clothing to keep warm and no hot meals for a few days. What do you do when there's no way to keep cool?

After all, it's not like baby killing hasn't had a long history of use in propaganda and literature.

Let's at least try to act like we are educated.

CBC Radio's "As It Happens" has a Real Audio interview with one of the team members. It's about 15 minutes into the first part of the show.

"On Saturday, an American team launched a model airplane from Cape Spear, Newfoundland. And today that plane landed successfully in Ireland. It marks the longest distance - 3020km - ever travelled by a model airplane - and over the Atlantic no less. Les Hamilton is part of the Maryland team behind the launch of the plane. We've reached him in St. John's, Newfoundland."

There is a good picture of Lobster which displays this caught in Nova Scotia there are also lobsters that are blue and red like a checkerboard (only four squares), but I couldn't find photos of them so easily

Interesting!

While I agree with the facts and the implications, I don't think that was the primary reason the US invaded Iraq. Or rather, the real reason was a broader one that includes that particular bit of action.

The people calling the shots--Cheney, Rumsfeld, et. al., have been planning this since before Iraq announced its intention of switching to the Euro. The "Project for a New American Century" stated in 1997(!), that one of their goals was regime change as a means of extending the US sphere of influence. They intended the US to be the global benevolent dictator, and started by selecting George W. Bush as the Republican presidential candidate.

Think this is conspiracy? Check out the PNAC website to find out just how proud they are of their plans and execution so far. Also read this CBC article on the PNAC.

Oil? Currency trading? These are all part of what the current administration really wants: Complete military and economic control over the planet. Unfortunately, the only people in any position to stop them now are the American people.

those inversions would lead to cross-breeding sterility.

It seems sometimes nature has a way of overcoming scientific certainties.

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That's 9 annoying gnats vs a Predator(tm) and Alien(tm). I think I'll trust my computer with the Linux 'exploits' today.

What it takes for MS to declare a security vulnerability and what it takes for the Linux community to declare a security vulnerability are two entirely different animals. Microsoft tries to argue against bugs being declared bugs, and then screams "blindsided!" when somebody combines two exploite that MS pooh-poohed months ago and manages to do combine them into abritrary remote command execution.

The Linux community, on the other hands, considers getting parts of random packets (that were probably sent across the internet for everybody in the middle to see anyways) to be a security problem requiring immediate closure.

To put this more firmly in context, one of the two Windows vulnerabilities is soo bad that Homeland Security almost declared it a Weapon of Mass Distraction. With 'security' like that, who needs enemies?

Fortunately or unfortunately, (and I believe fortunately) the US allows all people (over the age of 18), even those who aren't paying attention, to vote.

pros:
- accessibility
- low cost to operate
- who wants to work on the odd fast food crew for people too stupid to work anywhere else?

cons:
- stale food
- misunderstanding
- lack of choice
- quality monitoring is corruptible if someone doesn't care. In the year 2000 several people in Walkerton, Ontario, Canada died from drinking tap water contaminated with E. coli because of negligence at the water supply.

Given time technology will surely replace workers in well known jobs. People have to do things that are not so well known, even as machines can learn or be built to handle more types of work.

Should people look at this as competition? My feeling is "no". For one thing, we should all cooperate to reach common goals, whatever they are. Even the set of integers is infinite, though countable. No matter how much energy is expended on work, there is still something to do.

Due to some really shitty (and VERY late -- who the hell mods 3 day old discussions?) moderation:

Not when the corp. in question is Bell (or one of its subsidiaries), they can't.

Then again, it is a funny story, in a sad "we just want to ruin the industry for everyone, and don't care if we go down the shitter too" sort of way.

Never forget the guy's a freakin' moron. Americans need to offer a gift to all mankind in 2004 by kicking this pathetic braindead out of office.

And yes, you can consider this flamebait if you please ; I'd rather get modded down on /. than be a living flamebait myself like Bush is.

...I like to think we are on headed in the right direction.. see here and here I have frequently visited Bo Brodie's company, Computer Recyclers Inc., an Ottawa company that deals in electronic junk. Brodie's firm takes in about half a million pounds of electronic junk a year. Not only will they take your old junk off your hands but they sell the stuff people get rid of that is still good. Win win if you ask me.

Well I've seen this article and many other articles if you do proper research that'll give you a hint. "Under the USA Patriot Act, passed by the U.S. Congress after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, all Canadian citizens and landed immigrants will need ID with either a fingerprint or an eye scan to get into the U.S." And yet you come here and tell us it's not 9/11 that brought us here? How dumb do you think we are?

>Ahh, well you see, Canada is not like the US. In Canada, people can call shenanigans on corporations and actually get somewhere.

Not when the corp. in question is Bell (or one of its subsidiaries), they can't.

Then again, it is a funny story, in a sad "we just want to ruin the industry for everyone, and don't care if we go down the shitter too" sort of way.

Corel is being buried alive, and at breakneck speed, by Microsoft co-founder Paul Allen and a former MS executive who, incidentally, also worked for the McKinsey consultancy firm which validated the post-MS investment strategic U-turn. Under the deal all Corel products would be privatized for a measly $30M. Corel shareholders - who've also pushed for Linux support long and hard - hope to canvass enough NO VOTES to scrap the deal but the raiders are tilting the rules in their favour.

It all went horribly wrong after the Linux powerhouse merger agreement between Corel and Inprise/Borland was derailed three years ago. We understand that Borland (in which MS had a shareholding stake) had valid reasons for pulling out under the agreed terms, but the combination would still have made perfect sense. Corel founder and CEO Mike Cowpland was soon ousted and CTO Derek Burney was named interim CEO. Conveniently soon afterwards Burney's half-acquintance, Microserf Tom Button, gave him a call and invited Burney for a visit at the MS campus and before we knew it, he had signed a $135M investment deal with MS, accompanied by an incredibly one-sided Alliance deal in which Corel had all the commitments and Microsoft basically none. In his debt of gratitude, Burney even promised not to sue MS over any anti-competitive tactics that MS "may" have used in their MS-Office offensives. Next Burney drew up a new strategy based on those commitments - again incidentally killing all Linux efforts and reducing emphasis on anything competing with Microsoft - and submitted his ideas for "validation" by McKinsey & Company, a consulting firm with strong culture of alumni networking.

Naturally, McKinsey also happens to have a long-standing and very intimate business relationship with Microsoft as consultants to their strategic planning. It should therefore be noted that Robert Uhlaner, the McKinsey executive partner who had been working as a consultant to Microsoft and who had "led the West Coast Corporate Finance & Strategy practice, supporting the firm's technology clients on strategy, mergers and acquisitions (M&A), alliances, and premerger planning", was given a top executive position at Microsoft in February 2003, in which his aim is to "increase strategic alignment between the Microsoft's finance and business groups". That pretty well sums up what happened to Corel between the Microsoft investment and disinvestment, in just 2½ years! Questions arise as to what involvement Mr. Uhlaner had, officially or unofficially, with the Microsoft-supportive strategic advice given to Corel in late 2000 and early 2001, or with Vector's friendly and private purchasing of the Corel shares Microsoft held, which happened almost immediately after his arrival to Microsoft.

From 2001 onwards Corel milked the increasingly-abandoned WordPerfect Office for revenue while toiling away on its dotNET descendant. Staff was getting laid off as a three-year turnaround plan was revealed to be centered on a dotNET-based enterprise system for massaging corporate data and delivering it in realtime to any type of devices through extensive use of XML and SVG graphics. Corel even bought SoftQuad and Micrografx t

Corel is being buried alive, and at breakneck speed, by Microsoft co-founder Paul Allen and a former MS executive who, incidentally, also worked for the McKinsey consultancy firm which validated the post-MS investment strategic U-turn. Under the deal all Corel products would be privatized for a measly $30M. Corel shareholders - who've also pushed for Linux support long and hard - hope to canvass enough NO VOTES to scrap the deal but the raiders are tilting the rules in their favour.

It all went horribly wrong after the Linux powerhouse merger agreement between Corel and Inprise/Borland was derailed three years ago. We understand that Borland (in which MS had a shareholding stake) had valid reasons for pulling out under the agreed terms, but the combination would still have made perfect sense. Corel founder and CEO Mike Cowpland was soon ousted and CTO Derek Burney was named interim CEO. Conveniently soon afterwards Burney's half-acquintance, Microserf Tom Button, gave him a call and invited Burney for a visit at the MS campus and before we knew it, he had signed a $135M investment deal with MS, accompanied by an incredibly one-sided Alliance deal in which Corel had all the commitments and Microsoft basically none. In his debt of gratitude, Burney even promised not to sue MS over any anti-competitive tactics that MS "may" have used in their MS-Office offensives. Next Burney drew up a new strategy based on those commitments - again incidentally killing all Linux efforts and reducing emphasis on anything competing with Microsoft - and submitted his ideas for "validation" by McKinsey & Company, a consulting firm with strong culture of alumni networking.

Naturally, McKinsey also happens to have a long-standing and very intimate business relationship with Microsoft as consultants to their strategic planning. It should therefore be noted that Robert Uhlaner, the McKinsey executive partner who had been working as a consultant to Microsoft and who had "led the West Coast Corporate Finance & Strategy practice, supporting the firm's technology clients on strategy, mergers and acquisitions (M&A), alliances, and premerger planning", was given a top executive position at Microsoft in February 2003, in which his aim is to "increase strategic alignment between the Microsoft's finance and business groups". That pretty well sums up what happened to Corel between the Microsoft investment and disinvestment, in just 2½ years! Questions arise as to what involvement Mr. Uhlaner had, officially or unofficially, with the Microsoft-supportive strategic advice given to Corel in late 2000 and early 2001, or with Vector's friendly and private purchasing of the Corel shares Microsoft held, which happened almost immediately after his arrival to Microsoft.

From 2001 onwards Corel milked the increasingly-abandoned WordPerfect Office for revenue while toiling away on its dotNET descendant. Staff was getting laid off as a three-year turnaround plan was revealed to be centered on a dotNET-based enterprise system for massaging corporate data and delivering it in realtime to any type of devices through extensive use of XML and SVG graphics. Corel even bought SoftQuad and Micrografx t

If you don't like American Culture, then don't partake of it. Create your own. Enjoy your own.

Stop blaming America for your problems.

I can't see the US Govt getting up in a lather about the MSDOS license fee.

You seem pretty naieve in the ways of US protectionism - the US has a nasty history of screwing with businesses in other countries, even when it violates their own treaties..

The Canadian softwood lumber dispute is but one (recent) example.. a US business goes whining to the government that they can't compete on even terms, so the government steps in to "help" them - even when it's illegal... (In this example, the WTO court ruled that the tarriff was illegal, but the US hasn't budged... they're stalling for the ruling from the NAFTA panel, which will say the same thing the WTO did.)

There are some still some free large scale artist communities on the Net that really help facilitate this kind of ethic. ZeD, a production of the state run Canadian Broadcasting Corporation, is a *commercial free* hybrid of television and the web designed to showcase independant and underground artists.

Incidently, ZeD covered Broken Saints in a previous episode. Yay Zed (and the CBC and Canada) !

Disclaimer: I'm a Canadian, and I love Zed + the CBC.

There are some still some free large scale artist communities on the Net that really help facilitate this kind of ethic. ZeD, a production of the state run Canadian Broadcasting Corporation, is a *commercial free* hybrid of television and the web designed to showcase independant and underground artists.

Incidently, ZeD covered Broken Saints in a previous episode. Yay Zed (and the CBC and Canada) !

Disclaimer: I'm a Canadian, and I love Zed + the CBC.

>The fact is, the United States had moral, legal, and political justification for removing Saddam Hussein. The world is a safer place for both Americans and Iraqis today than it was a few months ago, and it cost fewer lives than anyone estimated.

Only USians think that way. You have completely lost touch with the rest of the world; yet you somehow feel justified in telling others how it should be run. That's crazy.

Get a grip and realise that your beligerent ways are scaring many first world countries, never mind the third world ones you add to belt. You are becoming the world's scary, evil superpower, just like the one you once "defeated" (converted is more like it). In fact, 45% of the world is scared of you, and 33% of your closest neighbours up North hold this opinion, so I'd say it's justified.

And yeah, I'm careful not to say "American" these days. I, like a lot of Canadians (and possibly others on this continent) want to distance myself from your country's insanity. You can't just walk into another country and take it over because it is easy, or because you disagree with what happens within their own borders. That's wrong. It always has been, and always will be. Period.

And, guess what... the overwhelming MAJORITY of the world agrees with me. 56% to be exact. And, to put the icing on the cake, 79% of the world feels the US will now make Iraq a permanent US colony.

>I'll never forget the images of those Iraqis beating that Saddam statue with the shoes off of their feet. It's a shame you have forgotten, or maybe you never opened your eyes up enough to see.

Neither will I forget. Those images stand for exactly what's wrong with the US's ways. Those people tore down that statue because they felt that the US was giving them freedom. Instead, the US is already divvying up the country to various corporations, and installing leaders with American ideals at heart, not Middle Eastern.

Because "dangerous" can mean a lot of different things.

To me, dangerous is leaving this sort of activity to the private sector, with no limitations on what they can look at, or who they can share the information with, or why they are looking, or any requirement for a decent audit trail. For me, dangerous is knowing that people who really want to find the dirt will do it anyways, but if the act of looking up information is itself tracked, then there is a chance of tracking the trackers. If we just put our heads in the sand and say that the goverment must not do this, then the private sector will supply the demand, with far fewer strings attached.

Second, you seem to think that the moment a pattern is detected, the SWAT teams will surround the house. I don't think any sane implementationof this sort of data mining would work that way. The "hit" would end up on somebody's desk, then they start looking for other corroborations, maybe they'll spy on the person for a while. Sound terrible? Well, what about how arabs are practically strip searched at the border now, and how visiting Canadians, living in Canada for many years, but of arab origin, are getting deported to lovely vacation spots like Syria. Case 1. Treatment of Arabs. I prefer targeted observation over blacklisting and harassment of entire groups.

It's impossible to do, without simply annihilating the Constitutionally-guaranteed rights of so many people that you end up giving up the very thing you're fighting to protect.

You say that if someone is listening, then that in itself chills speech. If no-one is listening, what point is there in speaking in the first place? The point of free speech is freedom from harassment having made "dangerous" declarations. George Washington did not rally the states' population without letting any pro-Empire folk know what he was onto. If powerful people want to take someone out, they can hire spies, gather dirt, and then generate evidence for prosecution for a non-crime, just look at the Monica fiasco. It is not what you know: "Clinton indulged in a petty peccadillo, then lied about it to Congress." That is normally a criminal offense, but common sense prevailed, and the consensus seems to have been: "Lying to Congress about your sex life, which is none of their business, is no big deal." So Clinton survived just fine.

Second, how do you differentiate between the one George Washington, and the dozens of Timothy Macveighs, or Bin Ladens, The problem is not what those people say, it is what they do. If George Washington were arrested (after all, he moved around in plain sight), many people would rush to his aide, and the Brits would not have been able to keep him, regardless of what they knew. When MacVeigh was exposed (too late!), the consensus was such that the government could punish the individual without undue objections being raised by the population. The difference between an authoritirian state and a democracy lies not in what the state knows about it's population, but what it is allowed to do about it. The same goes for government spooks. It is not what they know that is important, but what they can do with the knowledge. As soon as they make a move to accuse someone, the audit trail has to become available, along with any information gathered.

When I refer to oversight, I do not mean a small number of insiders. I mean full FOIA access. I mean the right for accused to see who was gathering information on them, once they are accused of something. You presented 1984 as an argument that oversight is in-effective. In 1984, there was no free press, a single political party, and no right to free speech. That doesn't remind me of the Western world today.

A stable multi-party political system is critical, a free press is critical, a rational appreciation of modern technology is critical. It is be

Quirks & Quarks on CBC Radio One Join host Bob McDonald each week to find out the latest in science, technology, medicine and the environment. We cover the quirks of the expanding universe to the quarks within a single atom...and everything in between.

also, check out the websites of conference recording companies. That $300 seminar you missed at PC Expo is now probably a $10 tape or CD.

You are aware, I hope, that Canada is involved in NORAD? The North American Aerospace Defense Command. NORAD Quickfacts

I think this is what you are referring to.

'Grey market' satellite providers breaking the law: Supreme Court

Here's some more background info
Grey Market Satellite BackGrounder

I think this is what you are referring to.

'Grey market' satellite providers breaking the law: Supreme Court

Here's some more background info
Grey Market Satellite BackGrounder

Why, you are silly. Indirectly you pay for this with your taxes. You are supporting a huge corporation that truly has no need of government handouts.


No I'm not you're paying, I'm Canadian, my government won't even shell out to replace thirty year old helicopters.
Heck I remember watching a movie a few years ago showing the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan a couple decades ago and one shot showed the Afgans fighting a Soviet tank with some ancient gun, our teacher then explained that that gun was the official anti-tank gun for the Canadian military... Needless to say I'm proud to say that our government won't be giving M$ 1/2 Billion dollars anytime soon!

Corel shareholders fight suspicious takeover deal

Corel is being buried alive, and at breakneck speed, by Microsoft cofounder Paul Allen and a former MS executive who, incidentally, also worked for the McKinsey consultancy firm which validated the post-MS investment strategic U-turn. Under the deal all Corel products would be privatized for a measly $30M. Corel shareholders - who've also pushed for Linux support long and hard - hope to canvass enough NO VOTES to scrap the deal but the raiders are tilting the rules in their favour.

It all went horribly wrong after the Linux powerhouse merger agreement between Corel and Inprise/Borland was derailed three years ago. We understand that Borland (in which MS had a shareholding stake) had valid reasons for pulling out under the agreed terms, but the combination would still have made perfect sense. Corel founder and CEO Mike Cowpland was soon ousted and CTO Derek Burney was named interim CEO. Conveniently soon afterwards Burney's half-acquintance, Microserf Tom Button, gave him a call and invited Burney for a visit at the MS campus and before we knew it, he had signed a $135M investment deal with MS, accompanied by an incredibly one-sided Alliance deal in which Corel had all the commitments and Microsoft basically none. In his debt of gratitude, Burney even promised not to sue MS over any anti-competitive tactics that MS "may" have used in their MS-Office offensives. Next Burney drew up a new strategy based on those commitments - again incidentally killing all Linux efforts and reducing emphasis on anything competing with Microsoft - and submitted his ideas for "validation" by McKinsey & Company, a consulting firm with strong culture of alumni networking.

From 2001 onwards Corel milked the increasingly-abandoned WordPerfect Office for revenue while toiling away on its dotNET descendant. Staff was getting laid off as a three-year turnaround plan was revealed to be centered on a dotNET-based enterprise system for massaging corporate data and delivering it in realtime to any type of devices through extensive use of XML and SVG graphics. Corel even bought SoftQuad and Micrografx to merge their technologies into the project codenamed Deepwhite. Great idea but with somewhat misguided execution.

In 2002 Corel managed to strike a few high-profile albeit limited OEM preload deals with the likes of Dell, HP and Sony. While Corel received little in terms of revenue from those deals, even that limited success must have come as a shock for Microsoft. "How dare those ingrate nobodies invade our holy turf!" could have been the likely reaction at Redmond. With the anti-trust spotlight under a friendly operator it was time for the final strike, and how better add insult to injury than by not just taking Corel out but actually keeping the corpse within the family!

In December 2002 the Paul Allen financed Vector Group, managed by a fo

Corel shareholders fight suspicious takeover deal

Corel is being buried alive, and at breakneck speed, by Microsoft cofounder Paul Allen and a former MS executive who, incidentally, also worked for the McKinsey consultancy firm which validated the post-MS investment strategic U-turn. Under the deal all Corel products would be privatized for a measly $30M. Corel shareholders - who've also pushed for Linux support long and hard - hope to canvass enough NO VOTES to scrap the deal but the raiders are tilting the rules in their favour.

It all went horribly wrong after the Linux powerhouse merger agreement between Corel and Inprise/Borland was derailed three years ago. We understand that Borland (in which MS had a shareholding stake) had valid reasons for pulling out under the agreed terms, but the combination would still have made perfect sense. Corel founder and CEO Mike Cowpland was soon ousted and CTO Derek Burney was named interim CEO. Conveniently soon afterwards Burney's half-acquintance, Microserf Tom Button, gave him a call and invited Burney for a visit at the MS campus and before we knew it, he had signed a $135M investment deal with MS, accompanied by an incredibly one-sided Alliance deal in which Corel had all the commitments and Microsoft basically none. In his debt of gratitude, Burney even promised not to sue MS over any anti-competitive tactics that MS "may" have used in their MS-Office offensives. Next Burney drew up a new strategy based on those commitments - again incidentally killing all Linux efforts and reducing emphasis on anything competing with Microsoft - and submitted his ideas for "validation" by McKinsey & Company, a consulting firm with strong culture of alumni networking.

From 2001 onwards Corel milked the increasingly-abandoned WordPerfect Office for revenue while toiling away on its dotNET descendant. Staff was getting laid off as a three-year turnaround plan was revealed to be centered on a dotNET-based enterprise system for massaging corporate data and delivering it in realtime to any type of devices through extensive use of XML and SVG graphics. Corel even bought SoftQuad and Micrografx to merge their technologies into the project codenamed Deepwhite. Great idea but with somewhat misguided execution.

In 2002 Corel managed to strike a few high-profile albeit limited OEM preload deals with the likes of Dell, HP and Sony. While Corel received little in terms of revenue from those deals, even that limited success must have come as a shock for Microsoft. "How dare those ingrate nobodies invade our holy turf!" could have been the likely reaction at Redmond. With the anti-trust spotlight under a friendly operator it was time for the final strike, and how better add insult to injury than by not just taking Corel out but actually keeping the corpse within the family!

In December 2002 the Paul Allen financed Vector Group, managed by a fo

Yes, it was indeed librarians who opposed the law here's the link...

"Good one, isolated cases without proof."

You want proof? You can't handle the proof!

Far from them being an advocate of free trade other than in speeches, this is only one example of increasing protectionism in the current Bush Administration. Taking the largest single trading partner to the US as an example, a wide range of recent tariffs and duties counter to the NAFTA and GATT agreements has done real harm the Canadian economy. Some economists estimate that the cost of such trade policies costs Canada approximately 1% of annual Canadian economic growth (2002 at 3.4%) The only answer, since this protectionsim seems only to be increasing despite numerous WTO rulings against them, would seem to be long-term diversification of export customers for US trade partners such as Canada, the EU, Australia, Japan & China, resulting in less dependance on access to US markets.

Licenses are more powerful than any other known force in existence in the whole wide world ...

... as long as you base your lawsuits in the United States...

the whole wide world ???

of the 190 billion in subsidies the American Government will be passing out to farmers over the next ten years.

However don't be so naive as to think that egos aren't a huge factor as companies pursue profit.

In Canada, there were two huge chains of bookstores: Chapters and Indigo. Indigo's large stores carried large amounts of music and movies as well as books (the average sized mall music store in Canada was smaller than their Montreal store's music section). Chapters was all about books.

The two competed fairly well, one must say, in that they both had stores and both had sales. But that wasn't enough. The two CEOs of the companies had it in for each other. They hated each other, make no mistake, and the feud was so well known that CBC News even did an in-depth backgrounder about it.

Recently, Indigo managed to take over Chapters, and now we have one company. In the interests of not doubling efforts, the Indigo CEO decided to close some stores - some Chapters stores. That would be reasonable, except that every one of the Chapters stores was making a profit - and none of the Indigo stores were.

So when dealing with corporations, yes, profit is a motive, but sometimes, personal vendettas are even more of a motive. One upside though is that if I ever need to pull an Ocean's Eleven on Indigo, I know who to go to.

--Dan

The Canadian Broadcorping Castration's Radio 2 network has a 2-hour jazz program called After Hours . Ross Porter, the host, plays a mix of old and new jazz, with occasional features and interviews. Listen for what you like. Porter has also selected tracks for about 4 different compilations, so you can sample from there and shape your collection according to taste.

Air Canada is sure going to "get it". They're pretty much insolvent with their stock price plummeting from $20.00 Cdn in mid-2000 to a close of $0.69 Cdn on Friday.

Of course, their woes are more than just because of cheap seat prices, although that's part of it. It's also greedy, clueless unions, SARS and focusing too hard on the competition instead of the customers.

Air Canada is sure going to "get it". They're pretty much insolvent with their stock price plummeting from $20.00 Cdn in mid-2000 to a close of $0.69 Cdn on Friday.

Of course, their woes are more than just because of cheap seat prices, although that's part of it. It's also greedy, clueless unions, SARS and focusing too hard on the competition instead of the customers.

Air Canada is sure going to "get it". They're pretty much insolvent with their stock price plummeting from $20.00 Cdn in mid-2000 to a close of $0.69 Cdn on Friday.

Of course, their woes are more than just because of cheap seat prices, although that's part of it. It's also greedy, clueless unions, SARS and focusing too hard on the competition instead of the customers.

Air Canada is sure going to "get it". They're pretty much insolvent with their stock price plummeting from $20.00 Cdn in mid-2000 to a close of $0.69 Cdn on Friday.

Of course, their woes are more than just because of cheap seat prices, although that's part of it. It's also greedy, clueless unions, SARS and focusing too hard on the competition instead of the customers.

Air Canada is sure going to "get it". They're pretty much insolvent with their stock price plummeting from $20.00 Cdn in mid-2000 to a close of $0.69 Cdn on Friday.

Of course, their woes are more than just because of cheap seat prices, although that's part of it. It's also greedy, clueless unions, SARS and focusing too hard on the competition instead of the customers.

Air Canada is sure going to "get it". They're pretty much insolvent with their stock price plummeting from $20.00 Cdn in mid-2000 to a close of $0.69 Cdn on Friday.

Of course, their woes are more than just because of cheap seat prices, although that's part of it. It's also greedy, clueless unions, SARS and focusing too hard on the competition instead of the customers.

Air Canada is sure going to "get it". They're pretty much insolvent with their stock price plummeting from $20.00 Cdn in mid-2000 to a close of $0.69 Cdn on Friday.

Of course, their woes are more than just because of cheap seat prices, although that's part of it. It's also greedy, clueless unions, SARS and focusing too hard on the competition instead of the customers.

Air Canada is sure going to "get it". They're pretty much insolvent with their stock price plummeting from $20.00 Cdn in mid-2000 to a close of $0.69 Cdn on Friday.

Of course, their woes are more than just because of cheap seat prices, although that's part of it. It's also greedy, clueless unions, SARS and focusing too hard on the competition instead of the customers.

I don't think it's just those "consumed by the environmental movement" that exhibit such stupidity; such ignorance seems to be widespread

On the other hand, it was good to see The CBC won 3 Webbies with CBC Radio Three.