Domain: coralcdn.org
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Re:That was a fast slashdotting
That was a fast slashdotting. Running on DSL? Isn't there a way for Slashdot to test these sites first?
Or, maybe Slashdot can post the CoralCDN link for the article instead of (or alongside) the regular link?
I know, there are plug-ins, GreaseMonkey and other ways of doing it, but on the user side.
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Re:No shit
Oh, yes... pennies for that simple stuff that any nerd can set up in minutes or less. Now get a cultural expert to determine whether the villain's taunt is close enough to cause outcry among war-torn villagers in rural Africa, and someone to check all countries to see if Initech is a real company that might sue for defamation, and get a linguistics expert to check every character's name for any unfortunate coincidences, and a small army of lawyers to make sure that joke about Chinese-made products will still be well-received in China... and see how many more truckloads of pennies that costs. Also don't forget the accountants to count those penny-carrying trucks.
Modern "distribution" means more than just putting a product in a customer's hands. It means putting a product in customers' hands knowing that it will be as likely to be suitable for that customer as much as it would for any other. Distributing to a global market means the product must be suitable for entire world, with all its quirks and cultures, not just the United States' free-expression orgy. Bandwidth isn't the problem.
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Re:Down
You would think that if you were linking to your own site that you'd use a Coral Cache (or similar) link and not use HTTPS unless truly necessary as a self-preservation measure?
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Re:Already down!?
*sigh* slashdot
And we had tried to use Coral to minimize the load. Silly Slashdotters who actually follow links
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Re:Funny link!
And what the hell kinda URL *is* net.princeton.edu.nyud.net anyway?
It's been around since, what, 2005 or so? Where have you been?
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Re:Funny link!
It's a free cdn http://www.coralcdn.org/
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Re:Hoax?
The link is Coral Cached, presumably in an attempt to prevent a slashdotting.
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Re:might be interesting to host it?
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Re:already slashdotted?
Coral Cache is what you're looking for, no custom work needed.
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Re:Needs a mirror?
We need a new instant mirror site for slashdot. Any suggestions?
Coral Cache fits the bill quite well, I have no idea why the editors don't use it. It'll create a mirror of any url you link to and navigate through, and they can take a slashdotting
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Follow this link to check out the CCed version of the article.
If you're on Firefox the TADSEE extension provides a handy shortcut to a Coral Cache mirror when you right click a link. -
Re:MY_NETWORK
This is why links doomed for a Slashdot article should go through CoralCDN, first.
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Re:Installation?
If you can't see the photos you probably crashed the guy's server, I think it is hosted on his home computer...
Solution: Coral cached link of photos and aerial photo.
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Re:Since it is already down...
Or you can use the Coral Content Network:
http://www.linux-magazine.com.nyud.net/Online/Blogs/Off-the-Beat-Bruce-Byfield-s-Blog/How-GNOME-and-KDE-spend-their-money -
Re:why use botnet
As an aside, if I had wanted to submit my page to Slashdot is there a way I could of done it that (assuming it got published) wouldn't result in my host wishing a painful death upon me?
C'mon, I'm sure that your host would love to be slashdotted! Seriously though, try the Coral CDN to take some of the load off. For me, it doesn't seem to be working right now (DNS error), but that could just be the DNS server at my work.
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Re:Why you gotta be like that?
You have no idea what is of use to other people.
Definitely. I think he could take advantage of coral cache to still provide this useful access without paying for it.
He already has a log in system set up. Let anyone create an account, with proper anti-bot measures. If you are logged in, you get normal access to the page. If you are not logged in, you transparently get sent through the Coral Content Distribution Network (via nyud.net), being careful to not redirect CCDN itself. That way they use none of the site's resources but still have full read access.
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Re:la le la
I've found that it is usually possible to read http://nytimes.com/ articles without the need for login via CoralCDN -- in the case of this article, the link would be http://www.nytimes.com.nyud.net/2008/09/05/science/05brain.html?_r=2&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss&oref=slogin&oref=slogin
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Coral Content Distribution Network
Why don't you just give a CoralCDN link to your video's URL?
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Re:The future - same as today ...
Error: 500 Internal Server Error
Server CoralWebPrx/0.1.19 (See http://coralcdn.org/) at 129.74.74.16:8080
Well, at least the cached copy is kinda up to date
:PCoral Cache has never worked for me. I really don't know what all the fuss is about.
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It's called proxy server.In the early days of the WWW the idea with popular pages was that they could be cached all over the internet. Your server checks with their server and if it has the page in cache already then that is what gets served up. This is called "proxy server". Ask your ISP whether they have one. By taking this a bit further where multiple proxies can exchange data directly we have a distributed Web cache. See www.coralcdn.org for an example of that. It works on Wikipedia pages too.
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Re:Distributed computing?
The problem is that there's not much to compute at Wikipedia. The limiting factor is bandwidth. A distributed web cache like Coral Cache might work, but this generally isn't called distributed computing, just like P2P networks aren't. The main problem would be that web caches have high update latency, but probably it wouldn't matter too much on Wikipedia.
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Re:I think I speak for everyone...
I must admit to never having really used Dijjer, but what you're describing ain't peer-to-peer. Prepending http://dijjer.net/ to any url will make your browser send an HTTP request to the server at dijjer.net (client-server, here we go) causing it to retrieve the file (by whatever means, peer-to-peer or direct download) and transmit it over to you.
As oppossed to directly downloading, this will cause at least twice, probably more traffic. The dijjer server needs to retrieve it, file's transmitted once; you need to receive it - file's transmitted twice. Even if it's free now, it won't be when Dijjer's VC runs out. They need to monetize double the traffic by showing you double the ads the original provider would have (and still will; he'll probably be chosing his site for ad delivery, Dijjer will have to come up with a way to get you to see even more ads).
The coral cache does something similar, but seems more like a research project (non-profit, easier to get funds, easier to get inexpensive (universities) participation and bandwidth). -
Re:HTTP lives on port 80
Have you never heard of Coral Cache?
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Re:Sorry Server Down - Link To Article
Free ones - both only require that you change your URL slightly and the both work
Coral Web Cache:
http://www.coralcdn.org/
Cobliz Web Cache:
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RTFA here, not slashdotted
Page 1 and 2 respectively
http://www.linux-mag.com.nyud.net:8080/id/4641/
http://www.linux-mag.com.nyud.net:8080/id/4641/2/
Thanks to The Coral Content Distribution Network
http://www.coralcdn.org/
I'm a Ubuntu GNU/Linux user and love it. Freedom is my main argument. -
Wordpress is the problem
Wordpress is notorious for killing servers with heavy loads when there are many incoming connections. You could try making a temporary static page and disable Wordpress for a day or two; then in the comments section make a notice along the lines of "Sorry, due to server issues, commenting has been disabled until 2007-12-06".
You could also see if CoralCache can help you out a smidgeon. Check this page for further details.
Also, a piece of advice: don't sink money into an upgrade because you've been on /. frontpage once. If the load continues to be high, then yeah, go for it, but slashdotters have a short attention span. See a tale about slashdottings here -
Wordpress is the problem
Wordpress is notorious for killing servers with heavy loads when there are many incoming connections. You could try making a temporary static page and disable Wordpress for a day or two; then in the comments section make a notice along the lines of "Sorry, due to server issues, commenting has been disabled until 2007-12-06".
You could also see if CoralCache can help you out a smidgeon. Check this page for further details.
Also, a piece of advice: don't sink money into an upgrade because you've been on /. frontpage once. If the load continues to be high, then yeah, go for it, but slashdotters have a short attention span. See a tale about slashdottings here -
Re:really?
SmallNonprofitOrganization discovers bandwidth costs have soared due to extra bandwidth required to support downloading of modified code.
Then SmallNonprofitOrganization uses any of the hundreds of services out there to help them, like:
...and so on. Barring that, they just ask a member of the FLOSS community to host it for them, gratis, in exchange for some mention on their website or other non-financial gratification.
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Re:Damn...
If your school is as clever as my old employer, just use Coral Cache. Wonderful stuff.
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Re:Posted notice?Especially in the day of publishing on the web, where when you decide to stop pulishing, it's gone. If you publish a book and sell it, whoever bought the book can come back to it over and over. If you remove your webpage it's gone -- unless some asshat corporation (non-profit or otherwise) comes along and decides to republish your content without your permission. So if I write something like a web cache such as Coral, I'm violating your copyright if the information on your site dissappears? I have the feeling that you just don't understand the way the internet works. People who "publish" content make it available, and people who "surf" the content pull down copies. Those copies are transmitted through several network systems on the way to their destination, and any network in the middle could copy the data for purposes of caching or otherwise.
It's just the way the internet and web work. Your little opinions don't really matter. If the web didn't work this way, it would not be reliable, and it would not be useful. Search engines and archives and caches are services without which we would get significantly less benefit from the information put out on the web.
If you don't want to make information publicly available, don't put it on the internet, and don't advertise its presence by linking your content. Sue people who violate your copyright if they put it on the internet. If you want to make information publicly available to a private community, then use appropriate technologies like Bulletin Board software with accounts and passwords.
Copyright is not violated by computers. Copyright is violated by people. You can't sue computers. Large organizations with lots of money (big targets for lawsuits) will in general try not to violate copyright, but they aren't in general responsible for the copyright violations that the masses do through their services, just like how the FSF isn't responsible if you use their software to violate copyright or Microsoft isn't responsible if you use their software to violate copyright. Wouldn't it suck if Microsoft Word didn't let you "Copy and Paste", because "God forbid you might be copying/pasting something that was copyrighted by someone else, and Word can't make the distinction". Being indexed should be opt-in. Just like being spammed. Robots.txt can be used to advertise where a crawler should index as well as where a crawler should not. It is both opt-in and opt-out at the same time. Before you write another uninformed word about it, you should read more about it. You should also read this google blog post, this google blog post, The main robots.txt site, and the RFC.
There are crawlers which "violate robots.txt" (usually those crawlers are just poor implementations by people learning to write a crawler or unfinished programs - people who write real crawlers in general understand that you probably have good reasons for not wanting them crawling those pages of your site, and they don't want to waste their bandwidth on them). -
Re:A big strike against Net Neutrality
There are a decent number of companies (and non-profit orgs) that do exactly this sort of thing. Most of the big content distributors (iTunes, MySpace, CNN, etc) use at least one of them. The problem is that these companies work for the content distributor, not the ISP - the CDN "takes the bullet" for the content provider's main servers to offload demand, not offload capacity to the ISP. Unless the ISP sites one or more of the CDN's proxies at the customer edge of their network (which is not uncommon, but hardly ubiquitous), the ISP still has to pay to move the traffic to their customers from the proxy, and if they did have one it would be in their POP, not next to every DSLAM and cable head-end, which mean the path between the CDN proxy and the customer still has the same bandwidth requirements.
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Re:Heard of Youtube?
I know the parent is a troll, but this gets better:
Error: 403 Forbidden
Error when attempting to use the Coral Content Distribution Network (http://www.coralcdn.org/).
The hostname specified in the Coralized URL has been blacklisted from the system.
Server CoralWebPrx/0.1.18 (See http://coralcdn.org/) at 128.208.4.199:8080
Blacklisted??? How the heck do you get blacklisted from Coral Cache? -
It's slashdotted already!
Try the Coral: http://www.attrition.org.nyud.net:8090/postal/z/0
3 3/0871.html
For those interested in making your own Corals sometime when an article has already been slashdotted, head over to http://www.coralcdn.org/ and follow the instructions or just put the URL in the textbox. :) -
Re:Are you using Konqueror 1.x?
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Re:Swamped
I wonder if there's some kind of law/rule against campaign websites using a free mirroring service like Coral CDN
I only ask because:
A. It would solve some of their bandwidth problems
B. There are lots of rules against valuable freebies when it comes to politiking -
Network neutrality simplified
I wrote a quickie article in an attempt to simplify network neutrality for the lay person.
(I linked to the Google cache 'cuz my server won't take the load and Coral Cache seems to be down) -
Re:String urls
see
http://www.coralcdn.org/
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Re:Link dead already
Mirrordot should die if they don't get serious about caching articles. They don't cache images, and only cache the first page of an article, which is useless on the case of this article, and many others.
You would do better to recommend Coral Cache
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Re:The problem is it relies on a central server.Anyone want to state the obvious answer?
Coral cache (http://coralcdn.org/) with mod_expires to tweak the cache time and adjust length for high traffic times and mod_rewrite to drive everyone but Coral servers to the Coral cache. Not perfect but it could keep an otherwise dead site to appear alive for an extra day or so. Add in it's completely free, doesn't alter your pages and the only limits are a max single file size is ~35M and a daily bandwidth cap at 250G it's not a bad way to go.
The question is would this take enough heat off of Blue Security to keep going?
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Re:Netgear did the same thing a few years ago
Now when will Slashdot use MirrorDot or Coral Cache for links from articles, instead of bringing down small sites?
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Even easier...
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Re: Coral and very large files
Alas, downloading the AVI from CoralCache doesn't really help you. When you grab the AVI via the cache, it sends you to the original site
From their FAQ:Because of bandwidth overuse, we temporarily capped off Coral to disallow transfers of files greater than 50 MB. [...] instead of just returned some type of error message (like 403: Forbidden), we are transparently redirecting clients back to the origin site, where they at least have a possibility of downloading the file, and the server is not in worse shape than pre-Coral.
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Re:Google video is not available in many countries
I'm in Germany and I use Coral Cache to bypass these restrictions. It's not perfect, but a workaround.
YouTube just works. -
Re:CORAL CACHE WORKS BEAUTIFULLY
That should be http://willlangford.com.nyud.net:8080/geekpages/f
i refox/. Port 8080 works better behind firewalls and is now also the offical port on http://coralcdn.org/. -
Coral extension too!
With that, use Coral extension! It works well in my Mozilla v1.7.12 installations in Windows XP, Mac OS X 10.2.8, and Linux (Debian).
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Coral Cache for every links...
I still prefer stand alone Coral Cache extension for all Web sites links, not just
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Re:A little fishy to me
Any random donations from slashdotters will be FAR outweighed by his bandwidth bill this month. For Chrissakes, he posted *movies!*
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great, we slashdotted IBM and Coral Cache :-PIBM (http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/power/libr
a ry/pa-spec13/?ca=dgr-lnxw01UnixStandard):Our apologies The IBM developerWorks Web site is currently under maintenance. Please try again later. Thank you.
Coral Cache (http://www.ibm.com.nyud.net:8090/developerworks/p ower/library/pa-spec13/?ca=dgr-lnxw01UnixStandard) :Error: 500 Internal Server Error Server CoralWebPrx/0.1.16 (See http://coralcdn.org/) at 216.165.109.81:8090
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Re:The Solution:
Personally I think that links in slashdot articles should be automatically coralized (or something similar to that, maybe using a different system) in order to avoid taking down all these sites.
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Re:Coral Cache Improvement
Here's an idea for the Coral team: what about converting to Coral all links in a coralized web page?
They have a FAQ entry about that. Basically, in order to eventually move to a 'anyone can run a Coral Cache server' model, they need a digest method to ensure a malicious Coral server doesn't insert adverts (or anything else). This means they can't edit the page at all.
For now, I guess we can all use Greasemonkey. I suspect there's a script to do it already available, but even if not, it wouldn't be hard to create one.
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Re:avoid slashdot effect?
Speaking of the
/. effect, I can't get to the Allpeers link in the story but the Coral link is definitely working! The Coral FireFox extension rocks!