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  1. Prior Art? by darqchild · · Score: 5, Interesting · on The Smiley Face Turns 25 :-)

    I believe there is prior art, found in an 18th century poem. I'd bet that typesetters had been mucking about with this stuff since the invention of movable type.

    http://maul.deepsky.com/~merovech/smiley.html

  2. Impact on January 19th 2038? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0 · on Asteroid 2004 MN4 May Hit Earth After All

    I'm impressed. Ken Thompson, Dennis Ritchie & Brian Kernighan thought of absolutely everything.

  3. 03:14:07 GMT, Tuesday, January 19, 2038 by slashusrslashbin · · Score: 1 · on Asteroid 2004 MN4 May Hit Earth After All

    Excellent! Now I won't have to fix all those Y2038 bugs in my UNIX code! Go asteroid!!!

  4. Re:Eh... by tomjen · · Score: 1 · on date +%s Turning 1111111111

    No it may be friday the 13 of December 1901.
    I am not conserned though this guy seems to be on the other hand

  5. also interesting - 2038 by Coneasfast · · Score: 4, Informative · on date +%s Turning 1111111111

    since we brought this up, it might be interesting for everyone to read and be aware of the year 2038 bug.

    (by that time, we will all have at least 64-bit systems, but still a cause for concern, read the link)

  6. But we WANT to be out of it... by Linker3000 · · Score: 4, Funny · on Do You Want to Live Forever?

    All us middle-aged geeks want to be well retired by 2038 so we don't have to deal with the *nix/Linux 32-bit date problem - or at least semi-retired so we can be called back on consultancy basis and hefty fee.

  7. Re:Your Skills would suffer though... by tim_mathews · · Score: 1 · on ESA To Study Human Hibernation

    If he hibernated for the next 33 years, he'd be just in time to cash in on the 2038 problem.

  8. Hey... by Neophytus · · Score: 5, Insightful · on Verisign Plans DNS Changes

    2038 anyone?

  9. Time stops for OS X by shking · · Score: 2, Interesting · on Time's Up: 2^30 Seconds Since 1970
    Don't know if the problem is OS X 10.2.8 or Perl 5.6, but time just stops at Jan 19 03:14:07 2038 on my mac

    http://maul.deepsky.com/~merovech/2038.html

    mikebabu% perl 2038.pl
    Tue Jan 19 03:14:01 2038
    Tue Jan 19 03:14:02 2038
    Tue Jan 19 03:14:03 2038
    Tue Jan 19 03:14:04 2038
    Tue Jan 19 03:14:05 2038
    Tue Jan 19 03:14:06 2038
    Tue Jan 19 03:14:07 2038
    Tue Jan 19 03:14:07 2038
    Tue Jan 19 03:14:07 2038
    Tue Jan 19 03:14:07 2038

  10. yup... by AntiTuX · · Score: 4, Informative · on Time's Up: 2^30 Seconds Since 1970

    http://maul.deepsky.com/%7Emerovech/2038.html

    antitux@TuX0r:~$ perl 2038.pl
    Tue Jan 19 03:14:01 2038
    Tue Jan 19 03:14:02 2038
    Tue Jan 19 03:14:03 2038
    Tue Jan 19 03:14:04 2038
    Tue Jan 19 03:14:05 2038
    Tue Jan 19 03:14:06 2038
    Tue Jan 19 03:14:07 2038
    Fri Dec 13 20:45:52 1901
    Fri Dec 13 20:45:52 1901
    Fri Dec 13 20:45:52 1901
    antitux@TuX0r:~$

    hrm..
    Looks like we're fucked too.

  11. Re:subject by after · · Score: 3, Informative · on Time's Up: 2^30 Seconds Since 1970

    If this is a problem, then developers should start making ``patches'' for the year 2038.

    Its interesting, how no one considered this would happen eventually and just started to use 64 bit ints to store this from the long run.

    Someday, we will hit a very high year, and these sort of problems will hit us as well ... all I hope is that my body gets frozen so I can see that year ;)

  12. Re:Steam powered engines? by Lars+T. · · Score: 1 · on Slashback: Unstranding, Xecurity, Spurning
    In case you missed it, the Wright plane replica didn't fly. So lighter engines is obviously not the panacea here, but good aerodynamics may well be.

    Of course, that steam engine was used (or not) in the flight that supposedly took place 4 years before the Wright's first flight. The much better documented flights 2 years later "were made by Whitehead in a monoplane powered with a kerosene burning engine.", using something like this three-cylinder, 18 horsepower, four-cycle motor constructed by Whitehead, approximately 1901. But actually "(Number 22) is run by a 40-horsepower kerosene motor of my own design, especially constructed for strength, power and lightness, weighing but 120 pounds complete... Ignition is accomplished by its own heat and compression; it runs about 800 revolutions per minute, has five cylinders and no fly-wheel is used. It requires a space 16 inches wide, 4 feet long and 16 inches high...".

    All in all, this story shows how some things change (the way the patent office hands out patents), and soma things don't (like how theWrights use the same tactics as Microsoft when dealing with "partners"). Wait, strike that - what better way to show that an invention doesn't "contravene the known laws of science" than to have prior art? So nothing really changed.

  13. Re:Steam powered engines? by Lars+T. · · Score: 1 · on Slashback: Unstranding, Xecurity, Spurning
    In case you missed it, the Wright plane replica didn't fly. So lighter engines is obviously not the panacea here, but good aerodynamics may well be.

    Of course, that steam engine was used (or not) in the flight that supposedly took place 4 years before the Wright's first flight. The much better documented flights 2 years later "were made by Whitehead in a monoplane powered with a kerosene burning engine.", using something like this three-cylinder, 18 horsepower, four-cycle motor constructed by Whitehead, approximately 1901. But actually "(Number 22) is run by a 40-horsepower kerosene motor of my own design, especially constructed for strength, power and lightness, weighing but 120 pounds complete... Ignition is accomplished by its own heat and compression; it runs about 800 revolutions per minute, has five cylinders and no fly-wheel is used. It requires a space 16 inches wide, 4 feet long and 16 inches high...".

    All in all, this story shows how some things change (the way the patent office hands out patents), and soma things don't (like how theWrights use the same tactics as Microsoft when dealing with "partners"). Wait, strike that - what better way to show that an invention doesn't "contravene the known laws of science" than to have prior art? So nothing really changed.

  14. Re:Steam powered engines? by Lars+T. · · Score: 1 · on Slashback: Unstranding, Xecurity, Spurning
    In case you missed it, the Wright plane replica didn't fly. So lighter engines is obviously not the panacea here, but good aerodynamics may well be.

    Of course, that steam engine was used (or not) in the flight that supposedly took place 4 years before the Wright's first flight. The much better documented flights 2 years later "were made by Whitehead in a monoplane powered with a kerosene burning engine.", using something like this three-cylinder, 18 horsepower, four-cycle motor constructed by Whitehead, approximately 1901. But actually "(Number 22) is run by a 40-horsepower kerosene motor of my own design, especially constructed for strength, power and lightness, weighing but 120 pounds complete... Ignition is accomplished by its own heat and compression; it runs about 800 revolutions per minute, has five cylinders and no fly-wheel is used. It requires a space 16 inches wide, 4 feet long and 16 inches high...".

    All in all, this story shows how some things change (the way the patent office hands out patents), and soma things don't (like how theWrights use the same tactics as Microsoft when dealing with "partners"). Wait, strike that - what better way to show that an invention doesn't "contravene the known laws of science" than to have prior art? So nothing really changed.

  15. Better hurry up.... by LnxAddct · · Score: 1 · on 64-bit Laptops Reviewed

    I better hurry up and get this before its too late.

  16. Re:04 by babyrat · · Score: 2, Informative · on Dispelling the IPv4 Address Shortage Myth

    actually it's in 2038 and we've already started the conversion, and it seems like it will last us for a bit, of course perhaps I'm being shortsighted...

    from

    64-bit UNIX time would be safe for the indefinite future, as this variable won't overflow until 2**63 or 9,223,372,036,854,775,808 (over nine quintillion) seconds after the beginning of the UNIX epoch - corresponding to GMT 15:30:08, Sunday, December 4, 292,277,026,596 C.E. This is a rather artificial and arbitrary date, considering that it is several times the average lifespan of a sun like our solar system's, the very same celestial body by which we measure time. The sun is estimated at present to be about four and a half billion years old, and it may last another five billion years before running out of hydrogen and turning into a white dwarf star.

  17. Re:Gustave Whitehead flew before all of them anywa by Graff · · Score: 2 · on Kiwi Flight Before the Wright Brothers?
    An American inventor named Gustave Whitehead allegedly flew in Aug 1901.

    Not only did he fly several years before the Wright Brothers, he did so for a longer distance and with far more control. He made several flights that were not only witnessed by many people, but which were also written about and published in Scientific American in 1901. You can read that article and several others on this web page.

    Gustave Whitehead was an engineer who built engines for a living. His engine design was far superior to the Wright Brother's. The Wright engine leaked badly, had poor power, and was extremely inefficient. Whitehead's engine was much lighter and built to stricter tolerances. It, and others designed like it, went on to be used by several other aircraft manufacturers.

    While the Wright brothers received fame for their flights, mostly through good press and savvy public relations, Gustave Whitehead concentrated on his engine business. He was fairly successful with his business until a prototype helicopter which used several of his engines crashed. He was blamed for the failure and was sued. He lost most of his money and died penniless.
  18. Re:Gustave Whitehead flew before all of them anywa by Graff · · Score: 2 · on Kiwi Flight Before the Wright Brothers?
    An American inventor named Gustave Whitehead allegedly flew in Aug 1901.

    Not only did he fly several years before the Wright Brothers, he did so for a longer distance and with far more control. He made several flights that were not only witnessed by many people, but which were also written about and published in Scientific American in 1901. You can read that article and several others on this web page.

    Gustave Whitehead was an engineer who built engines for a living. His engine design was far superior to the Wright Brother's. The Wright engine leaked badly, had poor power, and was extremely inefficient. Whitehead's engine was much lighter and built to stricter tolerances. It, and others designed like it, went on to be used by several other aircraft manufacturers.

    While the Wright brothers received fame for their flights, mostly through good press and savvy public relations, Gustave Whitehead concentrated on his engine business. He was fairly successful with his business until a prototype helicopter which used several of his engines crashed. He was blamed for the failure and was sued. He lost most of his money and died penniless.
  19. Not Bridgeport? by ctar · · Score: 2 · on Kiwi Flight Before the Wright Brothers?

    I thought that this guy, Gustave Whitehead, made a test run 2 years before the Wright Brothers, in Bridgeport, Connecticut (where I was born)...

  20. Gustave Whitehead flew before all of them anyway by Caractacus+Potts · · Score: 5, Funny · on Kiwi Flight Before the Wright Brothers?

    An American inventor named Gustave Whitehead allegedly flew in Aug 1901. Here's a site that explains more of his story. BTW, my ex-girlfriend's parents own the land where the Wright Brothers had their shop (now a hotel), so I'm practically an expert on the matter.

  21. A decade after 2029? by BluBrick · · Score: 5, Funny · on Downloading The Mind

    But the world ends at GMT 03:14:07, Tuesday, January 19, 2038!

    Uhh, pencil me in for the 18th... just in case.

  22. Publish it where no-one will read it by fastdecade · · Score: 1 · on Delivering an Earth-Shattering Discovery?
    This is easy.
    1. Write a book on solving the 2038 problem.
    2. Put your secret on page 1.
    3. We can confidently predict no-one will see it until 2036.

    BTW Are your going to tell us your secret after receiving all this useful advice?
  23. Come party with me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll · on George Lucas May Be Completely Evil

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  24. Re:64-bit on the desktop? by iangoldby · · Score: 1 · on It's (Almost) Hammer Time

    We'll all need 64-bit before Tue Jan 19 03:14:07 2038.

    That's when the 32-bit integer number of seconds since epoch 1970 used for time-processing on almost all UNIX-like systems hits the limit. Still, no-one will still be using 32-bit systems by then, will they? Er, right.

  25. Re:Were the Wrights first? by mamahuhu · · Score: 1 · on Re-Building the Wright Flyer

    1902 was the year that Pearse began his flight experiments: - His first aircraft was built over a number of years and flight-tested from 1902

    The letter you refer to is one in which he said that the Wright Brothers will get the credit for flying first.....

    On this page referrence to the two letters is made. But there is a large amount of ambiguity about what he acheived in 1902.

    Pearse's definition of 'flight' was far more rigorous than the Wright brothers'.

    By that same definition the Wright brothers never 'flew' in 1903. They never got out of ground effect, and never for more than few seconds. People have long argued that Pearse's definition of flight is more complete than the Wrights' and so when he said that he never flew in 1902 - he meant it.... but by the same definition the Wrights didn't either.

    So if flying in ground effect counts as first flight - Pearse's hops and short flights perhaps count too - from 1902.

    When people look at the Wright flyer - it looks archaic..... but at the same time Pearse's aircraft was more sophistocated... his first aircraft was a remarkable invention embodying several far-sighted concepts: a monoplane configuration, wing flaps and rear elevator, tricycle undercarriage with steerable nosewheel, and a propeller with variable-pitch blades driven by a unique double-acting horizontally opposed petrol engine.

    At the same time that the Wright Brother's were 'flying' in an oversized box kite Pearse was flying a machine that bears a remarkable similarity to modern day ultra-lights.

    Whether or not the Wrights or Pearse flew first there is another who was flying around the same time Gustave Whitehead

    "In the early morning hours of 14 August 1901, near Bridgeport, Connecticut, a small graceful monoplane took to the air with its inventor and builder, Gustave Whitehead at the controls,carrying him for half a mile before landing undamaged."

    So probably the only thing you can claim about the Wright brothers is that they were masters of publicity well before their time.

  26. Who flew first? - some links discussing this by mamahuhu · · Score: 1 · on Re-Building the Wright Flyer

    1902 was the year that Pearse began his flight experiments: - His first aircraft was built over a number of years and flight-tested from 1902

    On this page referrence to two letters is made. And there is a large amount of ambiguity about what he acheived in 1902. The letters reveal that he said that the Wright Brothers will get the credit for flying first..... but whether they did or not is another matter. It's a all in the definition.

    Pearse's definition of 'flight' was far more rigorous than the Wright brothers'.

    By that same definition the Wright brothers never 'flew' in 1903. They never got out of ground effect, and never for more than few seconds. People have long argued that Pearse's definition of flight is more complete than the Wrights' and so when he said that he never flew in 1902 - he meant it.... but by the same definition the Wrights didn't either.

    So if flying in ground effect counts as first flight - Pearse's hops and short flights perhaps count too - from 1902.

    When people look at the Wright flyer - it looks archaic..... but at the same time Pearse's aircraft was more sophistocated... his first aircraft was a remarkable invention embodying several far-sighted concepts: a monoplane configuration, wing flaps and rear elevator, tricycle undercarriage with steerable nosewheel, and a propeller with variable-pitch blades driven by a unique double-acting horizontally opposed petrol engine.

    At the same time that the Wright Brother's were 'flying' in an oversized box kite Pearse was flying a machine that bears a remarkable similarity to modern day ultra-lights.

    Whether or not the Wrights or Pearse flew first there is another who was flying around the same time Gustave Whitehead

    "In the early morning hours of 14 August 1901, near Bridgeport, Connecticut, a small graceful monoplane took to the air with its inventor and builder, Gustave Whitehead at the controls,carrying him for half a mile before landing undamaged."

    So probably the only thing you can claim about the Wright brothers is that they were masters of publicity well before their time let's celebrate that!

  27. Re:Wright Brothers did not fly first by lifebouy · · Score: 1 · on Re-Building the Wright Flyer

    www.deepsky.com
    No. In fact it wasn't. That's yet another myth propigated by the Smithsonian Institute of Lies.

  28. Re:Marconi invented the radio? by Graff · · Score: 2, Informative · on 100 Years Since The First Transatlantic Broadcast

    You are exactly right. Here is an article which explains the case in detail.

    One of the links in the Slashdot article has this quote:

    By trial and error, relying on his own intuition and audacity, Marconi conducted a series of experiments indicating that long-distance wireless communication was possible.

    As you can see in the Tesla link I provided above, this statement is patently false. Marconi used the patents, research, and technical drawings of Tesla and faithfully duplicated Tesla's ideas. About the only thing Marconi stumbled into was the radio-reflecting layer in the atmosphere. This was not something he had planned, but instead discovered quite by accident. Marconi should not be credited at all in connection with radio, other than the fact that he managed to popularize it through his sensationalism.

    This is similar to the case of the Wright Brothers. Their "first flight ever" was completed several years after another inventor, Gustav Whitehead, flew in Bridgeport, Connecticut in 1901. There is a web page here with information on Whitehead and his flights. Basically, the Wright brothers managed to get better press and grabbed the title of first to fly from Gustav Whitehead, even though Whitehead was documented by several sources as having done it first.