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That's a rather convenient argument. When regulation succeeds, you laud it. When regulation fails, you blame it on deregulation. Therefore regulation can never fail and is thus always good. Brilliant. Successful regulation requires proper implementation of regulations. Failure to implement those regulations properly is a regulatory failure, not a failure due to deregulation.

It should be noted that lots of other regulationors offload the work (and thus the cost) of implementing those regulations onto the companies being regulated. The EPA doesn't test the mileage of every car model that's made to come up with the official EPA mileage ratings. The leave it up to the car companies to do that themselves. The EPA only double-checks the mileage of a few random car model to keep the car companies honest. You may recall the scandal a few years back when Kia and Hyundai were caught cheating on these MPG ratings.

Likewise, Americans calculate their own tax returns. The IRS only does some basic cross-checking of your return (the W-2 from your employer), and does a few random in-depth audits to keep people honest. By your reasoning car fuel mileage and tax returns are deregulated, and thus the EPA mileage ratings and IRS tax returns are useless?

In cases like this where implementation of the regulation is mostly left up to the entity being regulated, it's done as a cost-saving measure. You accept that occasionally someone will cheat while self-regulating, because over time the cost of that occasional cheating is less than the cost of regulating with an iron fist and having regulators duplicate all the testing/calculating work that the company/individual did to comply with the regulation. If you insist that regulation be so ironclad that there is zero incidence of cheating, the cost of implementing the regulation balloons far in excess of the gain from eliminating occasional cheating. That is, the marginal decrease in cheating for each additional dollar spent enforcing regulation becomes smaller as the incident rate of cheating approaches 0%. So the most cost-effective regulatory point is not at zero cheating.

So while it's regrettable that lives were lost due to this cheating incident, overall, airliner travel remains the safest mode of transportation by far. So I'd say the FAA's approach of judiciously allowing self-regulation has on the balance been successful. Understand that if you opt for more stringent FAA regulation, that higher cost will show up both as higher taxes (to fund the FAA) and higher airfares (manufacturers, airlines, and airports having to do more work to comply with the more stringent enforcement). Sometimes this is worth it, sometimes it is not. In the case of air travel, IMHO the money would be much better spent on improving regulation of the most dangerous form of transportation - passenger cars and motorcycles.

A great example of the above was the attack series launched by UAW-tied organization "Reveal". First they alleged a high injury rate (with a bunch of BS about beeping forklifts and yellow caution tape being banned) - but Tesla rebutted it by pointing out that they're using old data, that they're around the industry average now, and that the plant used to be the highest injury-rate plant in the US before they bought it. So Reveal switched gears to arguing that they were "hiding" injuries off the books. They even got CAL-OSHA to investigate, and the latter's investigation concluded just recently: the biggest problem they found was an extension cord to a fan that could pose a trip hazard, and one injury whose date was wrong. Vs. its competitors which actually have been found to be hiding injuries off the books, and fined.

Each time the Reveal reports came out, the news was picked up widely. The actual facts? Crickets. Scandal sells. "Wait, there wasn't actually a scandal" doesn't.

I don't think any of those hydrogen car manufacturers pursue profit.
They only aim for government grants.

GM is expecting to sell equipment to the military. Automakers are often the makers of military vehicles. Chrysler makes the Abrams tank, for example. GM and Honda are collaborating on systems, and expect the systems to be profitable by the next (upcoming) generation.

Japan exported more than 1.6 million vehicles to America in 2015, while the U.S. sold less than 19,000 vehicles to Japan, accounted for about .03% of the five million cars and light trucks sold in Japan.

Japan taxes engine size and emissions. The annual tax on a vehicle with a 4-liter engine, an American pickup, is ¥76,500. Japan is the only developed country in the world with such a tax, so over a 10-year period, it would add up to the equivalent of a 12 percent import tariff.

I couldn't find the import limits, but remember seeing a limit on how many cars per maker was allowed. Not sure if thats still a trade issue.

Of course, the new theory is Americans gave up importing cars, because Japan has high tastes and want quality customer service and its too hard to serve them.

Obama even tried to fight for American imports into Japan.
https://www.detroitnews.com/st...

Another proud example of my state's race to the bottom!

Michigan has approximately this system in place. It worked well in 2016.

What didn't work well was Wayne County. The county where one finds Detroit is fabulously corrupt and incompetent. Poll workers messed up their job so badly that had Jill Stein's recount been completed in Michigan about half of Detroit votes would have been excluded from the result; state law governing recounts excludes ballots from precincts that fail to balance votes tallied by the machine with paper ballots found in the lock box and the count of voters recorded as having voted in the precinct.

No other precincts in the state had such problems; the system is straightforward to operate and competent workers have no trouble dealing with it. The result was ideal; despite clear incompetence the final result in Michigan matched the intent of voters; had the Stein recount been completed according to the laws of the state the winner's margin (Trump) would only have gotten larger.

Michigan's voter ID law also helped in detecting a number of double votes by people sending in absentee ballots and also voting at polling stations. Absolutely no one anywhere was surprised to discover that the vast majority (29 of 31) of those cases were from (D) dominant Detroit as well.

I hope they noticed my car, in front of my home, on election day. Like millions of others I vote by mail. Furthermore, there is probably an identifiable class of people who do that. A clear understanding of that segment of voters would interest those who pay for such studies more than the results of this ridiculous experiment.

How the hell do you know you vote by mail? How the hell do you know your vote isn't changed?

"Vote by mail" seems designed for vote fraud.

"Oh, but there is no voter fraud!"

1 - Yes, there is. Michigan's recounts in the 2016 Presidential election had to be stopped because there were more votes than voters in some precincts. Records: Too many votes in 37% of Detroit’s precincts

2 - There's no verification of who votes - something that UN standards for free and fair elections REQUIRE positive identification of voters along with the fact that they are allowed to vote.

Voter ID is "raaaaacist"!!!!

Bullshit.

1 - Why can't black people be expected to get a picture ID? YOU are racist for thinking that "Blacks must be held to a lower standard".

2 - Again - voter ID is required by the UN standards for free and fair elections.

I live in Detroit. There is not a homeless problem.

Bullshit.

There are not needles in the street.

Bullshit.

I have a nice car and it has never been stolen or broken into,

Because it didn't happen to you, it's not happening? Oh, okay.

The "whole society is sick" is limited to where you live (and perhaps some other places).

Yeah, like you. Not just where you live, but you.

I live in Detroit. There is not a homeless problem.

Bullshit.

There are not needles in the street.

Bullshit.

I have a nice car and it has never been stolen or broken into,

Because it didn't happen to you, it's not happening? Oh, okay.

The "whole society is sick" is limited to where you live (and perhaps some other places).

Yeah, like you. Not just where you live, but you.

(districts with more D votes than registered voters discovered by Jill Stein)

Please do your homework before perpetuating partisan myths. There is no evidence of "more votes than registered voters" in any of those precincts. Not even close.

Thank you.

However, the fuel cell stack is very expensive. It would be much cheaper and simpler just to add some more batteries to the vehicle. Fuel cells really make no sense in a normal car.

Honda and GM have a fuel cell partnership and while GM is only doing research projects, Honda has actually brought a product to market so that they can get the experience and grow the fueling network. The primary product of this partnership is a reduced-cost fuel cell stack which Honda claims will make FCVs profitable to sell. This change is literally coming in the next generation of FCV, so expect it within a decade.

If you saw news stories like this or this, would you trust the government to run a redistribution plan?

No, it doesn't work that way. These are to be sold as actual product, and you can't equate this to R&D through funny logic.

Yes, it very much does work that way. It works exactly that way, especially in the auto industry. For example, right now Honda is selling (well, leasing) an unprofitable fuel cell vehicle in California (where the infrastructure is) and then going on to pay for customers' fuel . If you manage to use all the fuel they will give you, then you will be effectively paying something like $99/mo for the lease. Dealers will make a trivial amount of money, just enough to bother with getting the vehicle in the door, and Honda will actually lose money given the cost of supporting the venture and doing the R&D, but the R&D is what the project is actually about.

The next generation of Hydrogen Fuel Cell Vehicle is going to actually be profitable due to a joint venture between GM and Honda to pool their knowledge (and patents) and build a cost-effective fuel cell. GM took the tack of taking their HFCV technology to the military with the Colorado ZH2 technology demonstrator program. Instead of commuter sedans, they built a handful of million-dollar military test vehicles. They're taking the approach that you imagine automakers have to take, while Honda is taking the other approach that they can choose to take. But GM has [in?]famously gone the other way on that, as well. Perhaps they're just a little leery now, when it comes to advanced technology vehicles. Regardless, by the time it's actually profitable to sell a HFCV to the public, Honda will be the automaker with the most experience with them.

sure sure...
https://www.theguardian.com/us...
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/11...

From the other side we have things like
https://thinkprogress.org/voti...
http://www.detroitnews.com/sto...

So there is proof that voter-fraud was happening in favor of the democrats.. But investigating that is somehow bad?

I don't support Trump or Hillary, but i think Hillary would have caused bigger issues than Trump will do..

How hard can it be to eliminate the majority of voter-fraud forever? Require voter-ID's (just make them free of charge to get for each election.) and have automatic upload of each vote, at the time of voting, to a central system. No manual counting and full tracking of who has voted. Using a chip on the ID for signing the vote would remove some of the required security from the voting-machine and a second machine could be provided where people could verify that their vote was counted and correct.

"If you've done nothing wrong then you have nothing to fear"

- Words said before every dark chapter in history, ever.

Trump supporters are even dumber than we thought.

No, YOU are dumb. Hell, calling you dumb as a post is an insult to every acorn that dreams of sprouting, growing up, getting cut down, hauled to a sawmill, and getting hewn into a fucking post.

US elections don't even meet UN standards for free and fair elections:

(2) In addition, States should take the necessary policy and institutional steps to ensure the progressive achievement and consolidation of democratic goals, including through the establishment of a neutral, impartial or balanced mechanism for the management of elections. In so doing, they should, among other matters:

        - Ensure that those responsible for the various aspects of the election are trained and act impartially, and that coherent voting procedures are established and made known to the voting public;
        - Ensure the registration of voters, updating of electoral rolls and balloting procedures, with the assistance of national and international observers as appropriate;
        - Encourage parties, candidates and the media to accept and adopt a Code of Conduct to govern the election campaign and the polling period;
        - Ensure the integrity of the ballot through appropriate measures to prevent multiple voting or voting by those not entitled thereto;
        - Ensure the integrity of the process for counting votes.

(3) States shall respect and ensure the human rights of all individuals within their territory and subject to their jurisdiction. In time of elections, the State and its organs should therefore ensure:

        - That freedom of movement, assembly, association and expression are respected, particularly in the context of political rallies and meetings;
        - That parties and candidates are free to communicate their views to the electorate, and that they enjoy equality of access to State and public-service media;
        - That the necessary steps are taken to guarantee non-partisan coverage in State and public-service media.

The US in general doesn't require positive identification to vote. Try and utter fucking dumbasses like you cry, "YOU'RE A RAAAACIST", apparently because of their own racist beliefs that blacks are too dumb to get a photo id.

Try to even investigate if there is any voter fraud - even though there were precincts in Detroit in the last Presidential election that recorded more votes than registered voters - and you get DUMBASSES calling you names:

Records: Too many votes in 37% of Detroit’s precincts

Voting machines in more than one-third of all Detroit precincts registered more votes than they should have during last month’s presidential election, according to Wayne County records prepared at the request of The Detroit News.

Detailed reports from the office of Wayne County Clerk Cathy Garrett show optical scanners at 248 of the city’s 662 precincts, or 37 percent, tabulated more ballots than the number of voters tallied by workers in the poll books.

But utter dolts like you don't want any investigation into voter fraud?

False,They had recounts in all those states.

By your own claim, there was no valid recount in Michigan. And Pennsylvania's wasn't completed either.

In Detroit it was found there was enough significant voter fraud that they were unable to do the recount. The fraud in Detroit appeared to favor Hillary heavily. Michigan was unable to complete a recount that was demanded and paid for by the Jill Stein and the Green party because of how poorly the heavily democratic counties handled votes and counted some ballots 8 times election night. Parts of Michigan that there wasn't obvious voter fraud went strongly to Trump.

Your entire post is an outright lie.
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Actually, your post is leaving out something. Who was in charge. So let's see, we have Republicans all over, allegedly, yet they couldn't ensure a fair and honest election?

Oh wait, they're the ones who gerrymandered the state.

No wonder they couldn't ensure fair and honest elections statewide. No wonder we can't trust them. Maybe they didn't count 75,000 votes.

Also remember, the only outright evidence of election rigging was by the DNC, not Trump or Russia.

Oh really, and yet you provide none of this evidence.

Already, you're suspect with your own false claims.

False,
They had recounts in all those states. In Detroit it was found there was enough significant voter fraud that they were unable to do the recount. The fraud in Detroit appeared to favor Hillary heavily. Michigan was unable to complete a recount that was demanded and paid for by the Jill Stein and the Green party because of how poorly the heavily democratic counties handled votes and counted some ballots 8 times election night. Parts of Michigan that there wasn't obvious voter fraud went strongly to Trump.

Your entire post is an outright lie.
Story

Also remember, the only outright evidence of election rigging was by the DNC, not Trump or Russia.

To which all professors should respond with some variant of "You're welcome to your own self-image, but I am not required to participate in it."

Unfortunately, at some institutions the professors are are required to use the students' preferred pronouns. One example is the University Of Michigan.

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2016/09/28/um-gender-pronouns/91222056/

A conservative student, as an act of protest, chose the pronoun "His Majesty".

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/education/wp/2016/10/07/a-university-told-students-to-select-their-gender-pronouns-one-chose-his-majesty

LMOL, MARKET VALUATION not profits.

FTA: "Even if Tesla turns a profit, they will eventually have to make enough to justify this valuation."

GM posts $9.43B in net profits for 2016 http://www.detroitnews.com/sto...

Tesla NET Income for 2016, $674.9M https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/....

Yeah GM is real worried....

Really Detroit? More votes cast for HilLIARy! than registered voters in the precinct?

It said that there were explained voter tally problems in 34 precincts, ie. machines where they can see the fault, 236 precincts that balanced, 248 precincts that between them had 465 fewer paper ballots than the machines counted, and 144 precincts that between them had 264 more paper ballots than the machines had counted. Sounds to me like their voting machines are falling apart, like everything else in Detroit. It did not say who these votes (either missing or extra) were for, nor did it make any comment on how the turnout compared to the number of registered voters. However, given that the unexplained discrepancies average out at fewer than 2 votes per precinct, we can be reasonably sure that the discprepancies would be so dwarfed by the number of people who didn't bother to vote, that your claim is ludicrous.

Poll: Americans want Democrats to work with Trump

A strong majority of Americans say Democrats should look to cooperate with President Trump to strike deals, according to the inaugural Harvard-Harris poll provided exclusively by The Hill.

Most people want politicians to not fuck the country up fighting each other? Who'da thunk it? I will note, your quote says cooperate. I'm sure most reasonable politicians will cooperate to some degree, although I don't follow politics that side of the pond closely enough to know how much. However, what I've seen of Donald Trump so far would indicate a man who demands compliance rather than attempting to cooperate with anyone.

Really Detroit? More votes cast for HilLIARy! than registered voters in the precinct?

The article says nothing to back up your claim, and in fact the most likely explanation of what it does cover would be slack marking of the role and not voter fraud, but do continue your incoherent rambling. I'm sure someone gives a damn, somewhere, what you think.

On Thursday, a Ukrainian man who hatched a plan in 2013 to send heroin to my home and then call the cops when the drugs arrived was sentenced to 41 months in prison for unrelated cybercrime charges. Separately, a 19-year-old American who admitted to being part of a hacker group that sent a heavily-armed police force to my home in 2013 was sentenced to three years probation.

Sergey Vovnenko, a.k.a. "Fly," "Flycracker" and "MUXACC1," pleaded guilty last year to aggravated identity theft and conspiracy to commit wire fraud. Prosecutors said Vovnenko operated a network of more than 13,000 hacked computers, using them to harvest credit card numbers and other sensitive information... A judge in New Jersey sentenced Vovnenko to 41 months in prison, three years of supervised released and ordered him to pay restitution of $83,368.

And now people like this are in charge of our elections.

LOL at you, because they're SMARTER than the people you'd like to have in charge of elections.

Really Detroit? More votes cast for HilLIARy! than registered voters in the precinct?

B-b-b-but PopeRatzo says voter fraud doesn't exist! Of course, that's because he leaves out the fact that the sky isn't blue on his planet.

And how do you think obstructing Trump at every turn is going to play out in 2018? Can you say, "60-vote Republican super-majority in the Senate":

Poll: Americans want Democrats to work with Trump

A strong majority of Americans say Democrats should look to cooperate with President Trump to strike deals, according to the inaugural Harvard-Harris poll provided exclusively by The Hill.

The survey found that 73 percent of voters want to see Democrats work with the president, against only 27 percent who said Democrats should resist Trump’s every move.

You go! Keep digging!

I can't wait to see Justices Kennedy and Ginsburg replaced with two more Scalia clones. Your pain powers my laughter at the "progressive" failure to turn the US into Venezuela. :-D

I am going to strait out accuse democrats of hacking, ie ballot stuffing in detroit. Considering in 2003 Detroit said it was basically impossible to double count,but this year they magically double, triple,10x counted at times https://www.michigan.gov/docum...
I don't believe for one second what the Detroit city auditor says this year,suddenly in this election tons of machines broke and everyone forgot how to use the machines.
http://www.detroitnews.com/sto...

The only evidence of significant voting machine abnormalities was in Detroit and surrounding suburbs, with > 90% voting Clinton , go figure. http://www.detroitnews.com/sto...
I don't believe for one second what the Detroit city auditor says this year,suddenly in this election tons of machines broke and everyone forgot how to use the machines. Considering in 2003 Detroit said it was basically impossible to double count,but this year they magically double, triple,10x counted at times https://www.michigan.gov/docum... BS.

Well, letsee... Trumo was soooo sure that the election was rigged by the DNC and the Obama administration that he started public preparing to not admit defeat....

-after election-

Totally impossible. Our system is sooo good...

I guess you missed the part of the Michigan recount where Democrat-controlled precincts in Detroit reported more votes than voters?

Voting machines in more than one-third of all Detroit precincts registered more votes than they should have during last month’s presidential election, according to Wayne County records prepared at the request of The Detroit News.

Detailed reports from the office of Wayne County Clerk Cathy Garrett show optical scanners at 248 of the city’s 662 precincts, or 37 percent, tabulated more ballots than the number of voters tallied by workers in the poll books. Voting irregularities in Detroit have spurred plans for an audit by Michigan Secretary of State Ruth Johnson’s office, Elections Director Chris Thomas said Monday.

Geee, all a poll worker has to do is run a ballot with a vote for Crooked Liar Hillary! through the machine a few extra times...

So, it wasn't as if Democrats DIDN'T try to fix the election.

Aaaaand, of course the moment those discrepancies came to light, the recount was ended. But too late! Michigan is probably going to pass a much stricter voter ID law - and what are you going to do, claim there was no voter fraud? WHEN THERE WAS - BY DEMOCRATS?

Detroit had 37% of the precincts had more votes than ballots.One precincts had 351 votes with 50 ballots.Hillary got 95% of the vote in Detroit. Detroit is now lying about voting machines being broken, stated in 2003 "cannot over vote with optical scan". pg 24 . Majority of Detroit is newer optical machines. https://www.michigan.gov/docum...
Detroit News press article. http://www.detroitnews.com/sto...
Here is a breakdown of the irregularities in Detroit’s 662 precincts:

236 precincts in balance — equal numbers of voters counted by workers and machines
248 precincts with too many votes and no explanation (77 were 1 over; 62 were 2 over, 37 were 3 over, 20 were 4 over, 52 were 5 or more over).
144 precincts with too few votes and no explanation (81 were 1 under, 29 were 2 under; 19 were 3 under; 7 were 4 under; 8 were 5 or more under)
34 precincts out of balance but with an explanation
Let us call it what really happened in Detroit , massive voter fraud by ballot stuffing. No national liberal press outlets are really reporting it at all.

The real kicker, Michigan law prevents a recount if the vote total doesn't match ballot count. The law basically allows sweeping voter fraud under the rug.

What don't they want us looking at?

The recount in Michigan found that 37% of Detroit precincts tabulated more ballots than there were even registered voters. Hillary Clinton's popular vote lead could prove to be very illusory.

and now that the competition has been won it doesn't matter how they did it or what they did about it.

Guess that's why WAPO was as the forefront of pushing the fake news bullshit right? Then even had to go as far as to claim well, no ... we really didn't mean they were fake news. Even though their article where they claimed all those sites were "fake news" weren't, and they had to scramble all over themselves along with the site they were pushing and started disavowing it. Notice how it's now suddenly started dropping off the radar?

But just to have some fun, you can now wait and see what happens in detroit. Since 37% of their voting machines had more votes then actual ballots in the box. Detroit if you remember went to Clinton, and now there is an investigation being launched into vote tampering.

and now that the competition has been won it doesn't matter how they did it or what they did about it.

Guess that's why WAPO was as the forefront of pushing the fake news bullshit right? Then even had to go as far as to claim well, no ... we really didn't mean they were fake news. Even though their article where they claimed all those sites were "fake news" weren't, and they had to scramble all over themselves along with the site they were pushing and started disavowing it. Notice how it's now suddenly started dropping off the radar?

But just to have some fun, you can now wait and see what happens in detroit. Since 37% of their voting machines had more votes then actual ballots in the box. Detroit if you remember went to Clinton, and now there is an investigation being launched into vote tampering.

...

Don't worry though, because Orange Hitler makes all his shitty products in China ...

And you wonder why Hillary! lost?!?!

People are wising up to the incessant dehumanization that Democrats do in the US to their political opponents.

And guess what? Guess where the voter fraud is in Michigan?

Half of Detroit votes may be ineligible for recount

One-third of precincts in Wayne County could be disqualified from an unprecedented statewide recount of presidential election results because of problems with ballots.

Michigan’s largest county voted overwhelmingly for Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton, but officials couldn’t reconcile vote totals for 610 of 1,680 precincts during a countywide canvass of vote results late last month.

Most of those are in heavily Democratic Detroit, where the number of ballots in precinct poll books did not match those of voting machine printout reports in 59 percent of precincts, 392 of 662.

Imagine that - more votes counted than ballots cast in DEMOCRAT-controlled areas of Michigan.

Death threats to the electors is probably not the way to go in any civilized society. Publishing the personal information of the electorates to the public is probably not the way to go. Intimidation never works, it just enrages the person on the other end.

Applying pressure to electors is not going to work. It will just cause more rage in others in an already out of control situation.

What you are asking for is getting pretty close to being called a rebellion. It this what you really want?

First and foremost, On the Florida crash had a fatality.
However, it is still thought that Pennsylvania's crash did NOT involve AP, and Montana is still un-verified (though, I would expect this one to have AP since it had been running for some time). IOW, at this time, it is 1 crash using AP, and only 1 fatality.

So, this brings up the question of why did an AC submit this story which has multiple false statements, and why is /. not checking validity? In addition, why has the header NOT been updated with correct information?
Shades of the Koch bros here.

Even military language is standard operating procedure for police.

Police do not patrol neighborhoods, they patrol sectors. Even in small towns it is broken into sectors.

When I think of sectors, I think of militarized zones with fences and lines that need monitoring.

In order for this cycle to end there needs to be respect on both sides. #Blacklivesmatter need to call out people who are being idiots and inciting, #Police need to call out over aggressive idiots on their ranks that are abusive with force instead of condoning it silently as a bystander.

According to reports, this was one man with an AR-15 and a bunch of ammo and look at the damage.

It has to stop on both sides and it has to stop today. It is not cool when someone mows white people down with an assault rifle and it is not cool when police harass Americans for "DWB", driving while black. It is not cool that black people have to teach their children to comply with police or risk getting shot. It is not cool that so many people have nonviolent felonies that they can't get a job. It is a giant cluster mess.

This will take action from society as a whole to fix. I saw an encouraging first step in Detroit recently.
Jobseekers get nonviolent records expunged.

It is not cool that Hilary Clinton gets a get out of jail free card.
It is not cool that General Patraeous gets probation.
It is not cool when teens like Ethan Couch with affluenza walk away with probation or little jail time.
It is not cool that cities like Flint and poisoned with lead just because they are poor.
It is not cool that America rebuilds New Orleans but lets Detroit rot even though it suffered an economic Sunami of Free-Trade Agreements.
It is not cool that some kids can get a decent public education and others can not based on their zip code.
It is not cool that Jails are now a "For Profit" business further preying on people on the margins of society.
It is not cool that America incarcerates more people per capita than any other modern country in history.

American is not perfect, but Trump was right when he said the "system was rigged". While we might not be perfect, we believe in a union of people working together for the common good, freedom, and the hope of liberty and pursuing happiness. The hope to live a good life that doesn't have a violent end because you walked down the wrong street or drove in the wrong neighborhood.

I would encourage everyone looking at these events today not to take a sides, but ask,
"What can we do to fix this, before it gets worse?",
"How can we heal the racial divide?"
"How can we love our neighbor?"

The natural tendency is to be tribal, pick your tribe and then prepare to war with the other tribe. It's human, it is how we survived long ago. If we go down that path, more will die. America is awash with guns and ammo and the killing of whites, blacks, gays, muslims, seeks, mexicans NEEDS TO STOP.

Reflect and ask yourself, "how can I be the change I want to see in the world?"

"An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind."

This is just sloppy reporting. A Tesla crashed, must be another autopilot case, don't bother to actually check the facts. Even make up nonexisting statements from police reports, why not.

The actual police report does not mention autopilot, contrary to what some news reports are claiming. Tesla has not been able to review the logs yet because the antenna got damaged in the accident. They have been trying to contact the owner in order to get access to the logs but so far have not been able to reach them.

At this point, it looks like this accident has nothing to do with autopilot.

Beginning in 2018, Detroit automakers will be on the hook for the so-called Cadillac tax, a 40 percent excise tax on company-sponsored health plans as part of the Affordable Care Act. Employers will be taxed on health coverage that costs more than $10,200 for individuals or $27,500 for a family.

Source: http://www.detroitnews.com/sto...

Informing the Detroit city government what the problems are has never been the problem. Getting them to do something about it is the problem. The telephone worked just fine, it's that the city government either just doesn't care or is blatantly incompetent. Detroit, ruled by Democrats since 1962. A city whose Golden Age included the Purple Gang. Yeah, I think an app wasn't why their streets were full of potholes and the sidewalks were full of litter. Giving it credit for cleaning things up is typical journalistic thinking.

Citation needed.

citation. How do you think all these automakers got in this sort of trouble? VW was just the only one with the audacity to totally disable certain emissions equipment any time the test isn't running.

Pfffft! Michigan had a 4.2 yesterday. http://www.detroitnews.com/sto...

well to be fair, i had one of those GM cars with the ignition switch issue. the only thing is to me it was not a bug but a feature. I could start my car, lock it back up with it running and keep the key on me. this is great on days like today that are -20 with the wind. (not as nice as a remote start obviously but still)

  If you cant drive and focus on driving simply because they key pops out of the ignition, well you got bigger problems in life anyway

Whether it's a bug or feature is certainly a fair argument.

To my mind, if you can't predict when the key will pop out then it's a bug.

Also, it appears to have killed 38 people.

Here, this one's free.

I think you're really a special kind of stupid.

I think we'll let others decide that.

First of all, a company doing business in a country must respect and obey the laws of said country. That goes without even saying, moron. Apple has registered subsidiaries in China, nevermind their huge manufacturing sourcing business in mainland.

Show me where there is a law saying that Apple must store its encryption keys on-shore. Guess what? There isn't one. See, Apple isn't breaking the law because it isn't IN China, it just does business there. But there's more to this... very much more.

As for "gradually been bringing its manufacturing back home" this means you are too stupid to cross the street. No consumer IT / electronics company in the US, Apple included, can bring manufacturing back to the US

Yeah? How about this? And this? And this? And this?

And many, many more. Hmmm. It seems just maybe I knew a bit more about it than you, eh?

The can sniff out $41,000 in grandma's bra but they can't find pallets of cash going across the border.

NHTSA: Economic costs of car crashes $277 billion

I've provided two links now. Where are yours?

You do realize we can do both these things. They are both worth doing if they save money and lives. But we do not have driverless cars yet - and their are different obstacles to their implementation. If we can build a wall and go "yep, that'll save us 3 times it's cost" then we absolutely should do that.

We do not need to tear down one in favor of the other. My point was solely that there are very sensible reasons to think tornado prevention with giga-engineering would be economically viable.

NHTSA: Economic costs of car crashes $277 billion

I've provided two links now. Where are yours?

It's interesting that this comes on the same day that low-information journalists are panicked because "the melt that has started could eventually add 4 to 12 feet to current sea levels."

Apparently they're not aware that this is trivial compared to what nature dishes out. During the Last Glacial Maximum (only ~23,000 years ago), sea level was 400 feet lower than it is today.

Every species that's alive today, including polar bears, managed to survive that massive 400-ft increase in sea level.

In fact, every species that's alive today has managed to survive dozens of glacial advances and glacial retreats -- each one of which caused massive fluctuations in sea level.

The low-information voters and low-information journalists also seem unaware that the natural and normal state of the earth is to not have any polar ice caps whatsoever. The only reason Earth currently has polar ice caps is because the Quaternary glaciation (i.e., the most recent ice age) is not completely over; we are still emerging from it.

You know, until that happened, you'd just be a tin-foil hat wearer, without a shred of credibility to you. Actually, you still are. But thanks to the colossal mistake of a couple of people in the IRS and Obama's total and complete inability to deal with a scandal, that singular act has managed to make the tinfoil hat crowd look more credible than the government.

Well, you know what, okay. Out of the thousands of times Obama and the "rabid liberals" have gotten it right, after six years of constant, sustained, unending attempts by the Republicans to find something, anything, to sink Obama even if it means repeatedly punching themselves in the face (Comeon guys, with all the major issues out there, your party platform for the previous four years has been trying to ensure Obama didn't get re-elected. Petty much?)... I suppose yes, with that much scrutiny eventually something had to pan out.

So take this one, singular victory. Have it, it's yours. You can feel righteous for a bit now -- you have a right to be upset

Well, that's mighty white of you. You are indeed a generous spirit.

True Scandal - A tea-party group ... gets attention from the IRS—and the FBI, OSHA, and the ATF.
The IRS Fiasco Is Only The Tip Of The Iceberg
A Frequent Visitor to the White House

...Douglas Shulman, Commissioner from 2008 to 2012, during the Obama administration, visited the White House 118 times just in 2010 and 2011. His successor, Steven Miller, also visited “numerous” times.

Lawmakers say IRS targeted dozens more conservative groups than initially believed

The IRS targeting of conservative groups is far broader than first reported, with nearly 500 organizations singled out for additional scrutiny, according to two lawmakers briefed by the agency

IRS Admits Targeting “Tea Party” Groups
The New Nixon This time, the press cheered as the IRS investigated the president's opponents.
Tea party groups call IRS process 'nightmare'
IRS approved liberal groups while Tea Party in limbo
Curious IRS Timing - Did the tax agency also target groups that support Israel?
Obamacare + IRS = gangster government
7 Questions That The IRS Inappropriately Asked Of Tea Party Groups
The IRS’s Tea-Party Targeting - An apology, but no explanation
Did The IRS Try To Swing Election To Obama?

Jon Stewart and Steven Colbert

They both exist to keep deranged Wingnuts angry and stupid so they don't wise up and turn back into Conservatives..

Apparently they succeeded. ;D

But, just for fun, here are some more links.

A Timeline Of The IRS's Scrutiny Of The Right

2011

Dec. 16: Despite being briefed about the matter six months earlier, Lerner does not divulge the flagging of conservative groups when she and others from the IRS meet staff members of the House Ways and Means Committee to discuss the issue, according to the staff's timeline of events.

Tea party groups call IRS process 'nightmare'
Higher-Ups Knew of IRS Case
Reality Check Exclusive: Cincinnati agent giving orders in IRS scandal?
It Didn’t End - The IRS is still stringing conservative groups along

Now I'm curious though, when were you last conservative?

My point is that tax rates and tax revenue are not directly coupled. The government sets tax rates and with the tax code, and then people adjust accordingly in response. There are certainly instances in which an increase in tax rates will result in a decrease in revenue and vice versa. If you would like an example, here is an article on property taxes in Detroit: http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20130221/METRO01/302210375

The new spectrum allocation for unlicensed use around 5.9 GHz would conflict with previously-planned allocation for connected vehicle (aka "V2V") technology. The extent of potential interference between these differing uses is not yet understood. I hope this WiFi plan does not blow it for the auto and traffic safety industries.

See http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20130221/AUTO01/302210334/1148/auto01/Auto-industry-worried-FCC-decision-open-Wi-Fi-spectrum-could-hinder-technology for more.

that guy on Fox who talked about how sunny Germany is compared to the US and how that's why solar power makes sense for them...

Research this. Make sure you understand what actually happened vs. what you are accusing.

What actually happened was a reasonable news story and one person, a woman named Shibani Joshi, made one throwaway comment that wasn't part of the story. It was a mistake for her to make a comment like that about an area she hadn't researched well. But if you watch the clip on YouTube you can hear her say "In California, it's a great solution; here on the east coast, it's not gonna work." Lots of articles are mocking her and amplifying her claim to say that the whole USA gets less sun than Germany. It turns out that even the east coast gets more sun than Germany, so she was wrong, but not as stupidly wrong as people are saying.

Here is an article by Shibani Joshi, a follow-up. She publicly retracts her mistaken comment.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/02/08/germany-isnt-all-that-sunny-and-case-for-diversified-energy-world/

The other big mistake Shibani Joshi made was to agree that solar power was "working out great" for Germany. The price of electricity is brutally high there. Here's an article, not by Fox news, but by a respected German news magazine.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/consumers-bear-brunt-of-german-switch-to-renewable-energies-a-861415.html

Now that you have gone on record as opposed to false statements by the news media, can I get you to complain about the stuff Piers Morgan has been saying about guns, or the false reporting about how the economy is not that bad, or the savage attacks on Mitt Romney for claiming that Jeeps were going to be built in China (claims that were correct), or the false reporting about the dangers of fracking, or any of a dozen other things I could mention?

It wouldn't be wise to get all your news from Fox. It also wouldn't be wise to get all your news from the Huffington Post, or CNN, or any other single source.