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  1. Re:"Suborbital"? by similar_name · · Score: 2 · on Commercial Suborbital Balloon Flight Facility Takes Shape

    Orbiting isn't about elevation

    Elevation and velocity are inversely proportional

  2. Man Arrested for Uploading Movie to Internet by westlake · · Score: 2, Informative · on RIAA Says Accused Students Are Settling
    There is nothing "criminal" about copyright infringement. Someone can take you to court and sue you, but there is nothing criminal about that. It certainly isn't considered "theft" by the laws of this country: never was, never will be.

    Copyright infringement is a crime under American federal law and you can do hard time.

    Scream "Copyright infringement is not theft!" all the way to prison if you like, but it isn't going to change a damn thing. Man Arrested for Uploading Movie to Internet

    The movie was a watermarked Academy screener easily traced to Nunez's sister - exposing family to professional sanctions and criminal prosecution does not have the look of a victimless crime.

    The theft of intangible property is by no means an unknown concept in American statutory law. The Economic Espionage Act of 1996: The Theft of Trade Secrets is now a Federal Crime

  3. Re:Can .Net Provide a Vehicle for alternatives? by Ravatar · · Score: 2, Informative · on Making an Argument Against Using Visual-Basic?

    Wrong, you can use COM+ to call .NET com-visible(which you set) assemblies. An example of that can be found here.

    By the way, in terms of speed .NET has been found to run nearly on par with C++ in many cases, and memory use is sometimes better (although usually similar) thanks to automatic garbage collection.

  4. Re:Monkeys and middle-schoolers by orgelspieler · · Score: 1 · on The Primate Police

    Is that anything like "Praise the Lord, and Pass the Ammunition!"? http://my.execpc.com/~dschaaf/praise.html

  5. Re:method... by jlehtira · · Score: 1 · on The Mathematics of a Trip to Mars?

    Yeah, it's a complicated thing. However, it's not too complicated for a university student to figure out. Yeah, lots of work, but nothing incomprehensible.

    The natural division for the kind of solution we want is between analytic and numeric kinds. Analytic solution is generally not possible for many bodies although the other planets don't really contribute that much at all. I guess, at least when one's playing around with interesting physics and not actually sending humans to space, considering earth, moon, mars, jupiter and sun would be more than enough. Still, analytically, you'll have to break the problem up into pieces and use tricks to correct for some gravities.

    But really, for what I can tell, you'd want to switch to numerical simulation after getting a good guess from two-body analytical math. Basically, use a computer program to apply Newton's laws to predict where everything will be after delta-t seconds, repeat, done. This is a computationally intensive task but much easier mathematically. Or, it's as hard as you want to make it. You could simply use a very small delta-t, but I think practical solutions first calculate a trajectory considering only the sun, then calculate how much Jupiter and other bodies would have changed that trajectory for each timestep.

    I can't seem to find all the neat pages I've googled about it, but http://my.execpc.com/~culp/rockets/rckt_sim.html seems to be a good place to start (concentrating on the atmospheric flight tho).

  6. Re:Vulnerable by MrScience · · Score: 1 · on Falling Window Cover Damages Discovery

    Falling things are the only things the shuttle is vulnerable to in space... since, you know, everyting falls in space.

  7. Crysler turbine car, Tesla bladeless turbines by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0 · on Electric Cars as Fast as Ferraris

    The Chrysler Turbine car:

    http://www.turbinecar.com/turbine.htm

    http://www.fourforty.com/turbine/

    http://www.autospeed.com.au/A_0764/P_1/article.htm l

    Another way to use a gas turbine would be to use it to generate electricity, which would then drive an electric motor, like trains do.

    Also, simple Tesla bladeless turbines might be used in hybrid electric vehicles. See TEBA http://www.execpc.com/~teba/main.html, Phoenix Turbine Builders:

    http://phoenixnavigation.com/ptbc/home.htm

  8. Re:Statistical Lies... by tgrigsby · · Score: 2, Informative · on Newsy Numbers

    Oh, and here're some more:

    http://my.execpc.com/4A/B7/helberg/pitfalls/
    http://www.stat.berkeley.edu/users/stark/SticiGui/ Text/ch16.htm

    With information like this available about the misuse of statistics, I find the crap that comes out of the current Presidential administration amusing. Things like jiggling the numbers when reporting the number of wounded and dead from Iraq, employment numbers, Social Security liquidity, that sort of thing. Understanding how statistics are used as propoganda tools makes it easier to recognize a liar when you hear him give the State of the Union address.

  9. Re:Let me get this straight.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0 · on Think Secret's Nick dePlume Revealed

    Four Letters: USTA

  10. Re:Second Amendment by Teancum · · Score: 1 · on Neal Stephenson Responds With Wit and Humor

    Not a lot of civilians, but there were a few. Remember, it was a Sunday morning during "peacetime" activities, which included tours of ships (like they were some kind of museum), catering services, civilian dock workers, dependants of military personnel, visiting priests (during workship service... yes, I know there were chaplins as well). The same could be said about the air bases.

    Honolulu itself also recieved some collateral damage, and some ordinary citizens minding their own business and not being directly connected to or immediately at military installations also died. The exact number is not particularly high, but yes, some very ordinary civilians did die there.

    BTW, this is a listing of casualties at Pearl Harbor, including an official death toll of 54 civilians.

    Indeed, it was precisely because ordinary citizens could very easily extrapolate that if Pearl Harbor was attacked, what would be next? Los Angeles? Seattle? San Francisco? There were at least six senators and a couple dozen members of the House of Representatives that had constituents realizing that they were indeed the very next target. That makes congressmen very twitchy and wanting to "DO SOMETHING NOW!"(tm) And in terms of the Japanese plans, there were also specific plans to at least bomb San Francisco in a manner similar to Pearl Harbor. That it never happened is more a credit to the fact that the U.S. military was able to at least push Japan into a stalemate for a couple years, with the main battle front in the Western Pacific region.

    With all the complaining in Iraq about the deaths of ordinary civilians who are caught in the crossfire, as well as people complaining about civilian deaths in Gaza, why should Hawaii be any different in 1941? Japan certainly didn't have non-leathal combat weapony, nor even "smart bombs".

  11. Re:Don't hate it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0 · on Presenting APNG: Like MNG, Only Better
    GIF criticism #1: PNGs are smaller.
    Refutation #1: It's distressingly easy to find web pages using 24-bit PNGs which contain fewer than 256 (or even 16) colors. What good is better compression if you don't do color reduction?

    GIF criticism #2: I have to pay patent royalties to use GIFs.
    Refutation #2: Not any more. The Unisys patent expired. Some believe IBM has a patent on the exact same technology (LZW). Unisys was asking for royalties -- is IBM?

    GIF criticism #3: PNG supports alpha transparency, GIF does not.
    Refutation #3: As simple as it is, too many web authors can't get GIF transparency right. What makes you think adding an alpha channel is going to help?

    GIF criticism #4: PNG is a replacement for GIF
    Refutation #4: GIFs can be animated, PNGs can not.

    GIF is gunk. Can we step into the 21st century yet?

    24-bit alpha transparent images in web pages are junk. Can we get some CONTENT yet?

  12. Re:Actually... by j-beda · · Score: 5, Informative · on Batman Begins Trailer Online
    In the pre- Kindom Come mytho...

    That would actually be the pre-"Crisis on Infinite Earths" mythos.

    Back in the day (before 1985/86 - see http://www.sequart.com/crisis.htm) the "DC Universe" was bifrocated into to "main" universes so as to provide some "logical" reason for the fact that many characters had histories streatching from as early as WWII. The "Earth 1" universe had the "modern" superheroes who's careers started ten or twelve years ago, while the "Earth 2" universe had many older heroes who's careers started before WWII. On Earth 2, many of these heroes were retired and had kids or sidekicks who had taken over their hero-identities. Batman/Bruce Wayne had married (and died?) and had had a daughter (Helena Wayne - see http://my.execpc.com/~icicle/THEHUNTRESS.html. Superman had wed Lois Lane and was in semi-retirement, and many others of the "golden age" heroes/JSA were also "old and grey".

    There were many more "earths" to mine for material. Earth-3 had hero and villian roles reversed. Earth-S had the Captain Marvel heroes and others like Spy-Smasher from the Fawcett characters that DC had aquired. There was a world with talking animals that had Hoppy the Marvel Bunny and Captain Carrot and the Zoo crew. There was Earth-Prime that had no superheroes and was where comic books about super heroes were published (supposedly WE are on Earch-Prime). The "Crisis" smushed all of these universes together and re-wrote history to try to simplify it all, and it was stated that there was now only ONE universe.

    The idea of parallel universes is however just too useful to not use, and recent DC stories are revived it with "Hyper-Time" and of course the whole "ElseWorlds" storylines are also in some sense alternative universes. Many DC/Marvel or DC/Other crossovers use the ideas of multiple universes too.

    In the last issues of the Superman comics before the rewrite of Crisis, "Superman# 423 and Action Comics #583, was a story about the future of the non-Crisis Superman's world. http://theages.superman.ws/History/whatever.php. It opens with one of my favourite quotes " This is an imaginary story... Aren't they all? "

  13. Re:Market choice by yog · · Score: 1 · on Linuxmusician.com Interviews LilyPond Authors

    Yes, I'm a Finale-turned-abc user; most of the typesetting I do is simple lead sheets, and abc on Linux is just superb for this application. I create and modify tunes using Emacs and abc-mode, compile to PostScript using abc2ps (create a keyboard macro that puts abc2ps with desired parameters into the compile command, bind compile to F10 or something and you can quickly recompile your music with one keystroke), and view it with GhostView (set gv to auto redisplay). It is almost as fast and simple as a WYSIWYG music editor such as Finale, WinABC, etc., and in some ways it's better. With these tools I get almost instant visual feedback on my changes but retain the efficiency of simple text entry. The postscript output can easily be ps2pdf'ed for posting or emailing, printouts look superb, and it takes up miniscule amounts of disk space.

    After 12 years of Finale typesetting, I've finally found something better and more suitable to my needs. ABC's not for everyone, of course, but the price is right and it's a great fit for people who are comfortable with command lines and just need simple lead sheets.

  14. Re:Superstition by FreeForm+Response · · Score: 4, Interesting · on Can Counter-Strike Players Be Summed Up By Nation?

    And blacks are gifted in "worship and celebration," white people "know how to tap into money," Native Americans are "gifted spiritually" (and know "how to sneak up on people"), Asians are "gifted in creation, creativity and inventions," and Hispanics are "gifted in family structure."

    Remarks by Reggie White before the Wisconsin State Assembly, 3/25/98

    I'm not one to get overly uppity about racial or cultural pigeonholing. I believe that stereotypes are probably there for a reason. But there's a difference, a logical leap that bridges the gap between "many people who are good at X hail from country Z" and "all people in country Z are good at X," which is not to be taken lightly.

    Make all the jokes you want (I certainly do), but think hard about why you believe what you believe about other people before prejudging them.

  15. Re:Too Western language centric by Beowabbit · · Score: 1 · on MS Psychologist on How We Read
    The ideographs have to be learnt by rote, since they contain no phonetic information as an aid to pronunciation.
    Not quite true. Most Chinese characters contain two parts, a "radical", which communicates something about the meaning of the character -- does it refer to a person? an animal? a sound? something to do with wood or trees? -- and a "phonetic", which gives you some idea of the pronunciation of the character. Sometimes, two characters with the same phonetic will be pronounced identically, and the radical serves to disambiguate homophones. More typically, two characters with the same radical differ in their tone and/or have different but similar initial consonants. They almost always rhyme.

    So the short of this is that most Chinese characters can be reduced into smaller component parts (albeit fewer and more complex parts than a word written in an alphabetic script), and often one of those component parts says something about the pronunciation.

    Japanese is trickier, because Japanese generally adopted Chinese characters and character-combinations for Japanese words that mean the same thing, so the phonetic doesn't have any relationship to the pronunciation of the Japanese word. (A lot of Chinese words were also borrowed, and in those cases the phonetic still has a connection to the pronunciation. To make it more complicated, lots of Chinese characters occur in both native Japanese words and words borrowed from Chinese, and are pronounced differently in the two cases.)

    For more on the composition of Chinese characters (although not much about phonetics), see http://my.execpc.com/~mbosley/main.html . For an example of three common characters with the same phonetic but different radicals, see http://users.belgacom.net/chardic/writing.html and scroll about a quarter of the way down the page to "Another way to obtain a new meaning".

  16. I wonder by anethema · · Score: 4, Informative · on Pulse Detonation Engines: The Future of Aviation

    If any research is beeing done into the bladeless (Tesla) turbine?

    The bladeless turbine pump is hailed as the best thing to hit industrial pumps ever.

    All you need to reverse the intake and exaust and it is an engine (was orignally designed as an engine)

    Pulse detonation seems to be the best way to power these turbines. Tesla claims over 10 horsepower to the pound of engine weight.

    With this horsepower to weight ratio, I wonder what could be acomplished using this instead of a conventional turbine.

    More info on the tesla turbine here.

  17. Virgin Apache? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0 · on Virgin Apache is Hard to Find

    Enough is enough. This time Richard Branson has gone too far.

  18. Here's an idea... by Cyno01 · · Score: 3, Informative · on ACLU And Others Weigh In On CIPA Injunction

    We've all heard the arguments about breast cancer reports and what not, so i dont think software is good enough yet to not filter out useful stuff. Why not just have the computers in plain view of the librarians desk, esp in the kids section. My library only has about 10 net connected computers, and its in my experience, a huge library. It isn't unreasonable for one of the librarians to keep an eye on the 3 net computers in the kids section. As for schools, maybe schools should hire computer teachers as opposed to computer class teachers who just sit there reading their e-mail and playing solitaire while telling us to practice with typing tutor. At home its a no brainer, parents, keep an eye on your kids!

  19. Re:OS/2 on the 286 by iggymanz · · Score: 3, Interesting · on IBM's OS/2 Strategy for 2003

    Coherent (a Unix-like operating system) by Mark Williams Company also supported it. You do know how 286 switches from protected back to real for kernel services? The processor itself couldn't do it, so there was a fun trick with the help of the keyboard controller.

    I used to run Coherent on my 10 MHz Capital E 80286 from Elek-Tek. It had 1MB of RAM and a 40MB Seagate ST251-1. Both 1.2MB 5-1/4" and 720K 3-1/2" floppies. 2400 baud Zoom modem. And Super EGA.

  20. Re:Explorer == OS component by oliverthered · · Score: 2 · on Crush/BRiX: An Experimental Language/OS Pair

    That's because the task bar is explorer (they run in the same process).

    If it was part of the OS you wouldn't be able to get the file-browser or task bar up again, and everything else would probably crash.

    I normally take OS to be things that run at ring 0 + ring1
    Applications (like explorer) run in ring 3.
    (at least that's what i remember from my dos days!)
    Quick guide to protected mode

  21. Re:simple answer by some2 · · Score: 1 · on Does Drawing on Experience Infringe on Other's IP?
    Depending upon the state, this law may vary, however, this text as follows comes from section 23 of this article:
    As Mangren Research, 87 F.3d at 944 quotes from In res Innovation Constr. Sys., Inc., 793 F.2d 875, 887 (7th Cir. 1986): "The user of another's trade secret is liable if he uses it with modifications or improvements upon it effected by his own efforts, so long as the substance of the process is derived from the other's secret." Indeed, Motorola might face liability for misappropriation under the ITSA even if it used Nilssen's trade secrets " only to demonstrate what pitfalls to avoid" (Affiliated Home Products, 57 Ill. App. 3d at 807).
    In this case, prior experience, even if only used to avoid pitfalls in execution, would violate this specific law (Illinois Trade Secret Act) -- even without an implicit NDA preventing the use of that information. Keep in mind that people use their experience in this way all the time. This specific application of the law related to a person who thought out an electronic ballast business, brought it to Motorola, and got thrown out of the deal which Motorola later began business in.
  22. bland mush?? by mpweasel · · Score: 1 · on Spider-Man, Star Wars and the Power of Myth

    ...before the moralists turned comic books to bland mush.

    Well, they obviously haven't gotten hold of Johnny the Homicidal Maniac

  23. Interesting facts about official Sony Linux by Arker · · Score: 5, Interesting · on Sony's R&D- Linux and PS3

    Here's a good link if you're interested in this - http://www.execpc.com/~halkun/PS2/


    It sounds more like it emulates linux in a VM rather than actually loading it as the actual machine OS. This allows them to use all kinds of proprietary code without violating the GPL, and to build in all sorts of copy and "ip" "protection."


    Fair use quote:


    This is how the Runtime Environment (RTE) works. In order to get Linux running
    on your PS2, you must boot the system using the PS2 Linux DVD.
    During boot, after all the copy-protection stuff is taken care of, the system
    lays down the Runtime Environment. This is basically a layer that hides access
    to the SPU2 (Sound Processing Unit), the input/output processor, the hard drive,
    the CD/DVD-ROM system, the controllers, memory cards, USB, i.Link and other
    peripherals. The RTE does supply hardware looking hooks, an educated guess
    being faux-memory address and registers. Then the Linux kernel is loaded on top
    of this. There are Linux device drivers that accesses the Runtime Environment
    that are open source, but it's just a device driver calling in all actuality,
    another device driver that's closed.

    What you can and can't do with the system is limited.

    You have no ability to read a normal PSX or PS2 memory card directly. For
    example you can't open a Final Fantasy X save, edit how much cash you have,
    and save it again. Through the RTE you can format a whole memory card(!)
    and mount it like an 8 meg hard drive, but that card would be worthless
    for saving normal PS2 games. Once you put the Linux formatted card
    without Linux running (i.e. you are in the browser) it asks to reformat
    the card.

    The RTE also not allow audio CDs to be identified.
    It also can tell if you have put in a CD-R or not (it can see a wobble track,
    which all CD-Rs have ) and likewise not allow the disk to be seen. A PS2 can
    read CD-Rs fine, the RTE is just doing copy protection first to make sure you
    can't. You will also have no access to the CSS portion of the MPEG decoder,
    but you can decode raw MPEG-4. Direct access to the Dolby subsystem is also
    denied. Anything dealing with region locks are also restricted.

    The first DVD (The boot disk) has a Linux boot loader and the RTE on it.
    This disk is not allowed to be copied. It also has the manuals on it too,
    which I'm sure are also copyrighted and not allowed to be publicly distributed.
    The Linux kernel is on the second disk and also on the hard drive after it's
    installed.
    In order to use a monitor, you must one that is "Sync on Green". This means
    that the refresh rate is only in the green channel. The monitor must use that
    sync pulse to sync red and blue channels so they all get painted in the screen
    at the same time. The reason why you have to use that is because a PS2 can turn
    it's sync on green ability on and off. If you try and use the monitor
    adapter for playing PS2 games or watching DVDs, sync on green will be turned
    off and only the green channel will show up. Direct video output defeats Macrovision.
    Sony doesn't want you making copies of DVDs to tape. Keep in mind that your
    network adapter is going to have a MAC address that Sony, no doubt, knows.
    Also removing the PS2 hard drive and attempting to mount in a PC will also
    likely not work and possibly damage the drive.

  24. Re:Were they even secure yesterday? by broter · · Score: 4, Informative · on Factoring Breakthrough?

    I found a brief mention of it here in the Differential Cryptanalysis section. Also, in "Applied Cryptography, 2nd ed." (Schneier) on page 290, it quote IBM's Don Coppersmith as saying:

    • The design took advantage of certain cryptanalytic techniques, most prominently the technique of "differential cryptanalysis," which were not known in the published literature. After discussions with NSA, it was decided that disclosure of the design consideration would reveal the technique of differential cryptanalysis, a powerful technique that can be used against many ciphers. This in turn would weaken the competitive advantage the United States enjoyed over other countries in the field of cryptography.

    I've heard about it in other places, but I can't remember where at the moment.



  25. Trade secret law by yerricde · · Score: 3, Insightful · on 9th Circuit: Thumbnails Are Big Enough For Fair Use

    Umm, if there were no copyright law, there wouldn't be any proprietary products in the first place.

    Yes there would; they'd just be protected under trade secret + contract law rather than copyright law. Copyright infringement cases are generally civil cases, and damages usually don't top five figures per work infringed. Trade secret cases, on the other hand, carry even bigger damages, plus jail time for all involved.

    Being against this ruling and against copyright law is not hypocritical. Being for the ruling and against copyright law is.

    I agree with many of the general principles of copyright, and I agree with this ruling, but I don't agree with the specifics of the implementation of copyright in the United States. For instance, I don't agree with the anti-circumvention provisions of the DMCA as interpreted in recent cases (the courts have flatly ignored many of the exceptions), and I don't agree with life+70 copyright terms. I also don't like companies whose products teach a message of sharing but who do not themselves share (i.e. license to individual webmasters under reasonable terms) their own IP. Does that make me a hypocrite?

  26. Re:here's a mirror in case the site gets slashdott by Hes+Nikke · · Score: 2, Redundant · on Looking Closely at the Restrictions of Linux on the PS2
    hear is a readable version (actuly it's more readable then the orignal!):
    Linux for the PS2 and Sony's Intellectual Property

    In a few months Sony Computer Entertainment of America will be releasing a version of Linux for their terribly popular Playstation 2. I can't help but to feel a little worried about this. Is Sony's PS2 Version of Linux Free, as in Freedom? Sony's never been one to be very forthcoming when it comes to giving their intellectual property away for free. Anyone familiar with my Playstation Documentation Project know that I have a past with Sony. Thankfully only by proxy. Not to go into outrageous details, but my documentation came about from a bet that I had with a Sony representative. It was during the first volleys of Sony's litigation with "Bleem!", a small two-man company that set out to make a commercial Playstation 1 (PSX) emulator for PC. Sony, at the time, was claming that the creation of the "Bleem!" violated countless patents, copyrights, and trade secrets. I, for one, thought the trade secret argument was a bunch of hooey. I speak and read Japanese and seen all kinds of documents about how the PSX functioned from both sides of the pond. Also homebrew developers and professionals were swapping notes in a wildly open mailing list that I had subscribed to. With this wealth of information in hand, I bet my Sony rep that I could peg about 75% of the internal architecture of the PSX without signing a Non-Discourse Agreement (NDA) with Sony, or using any official Sony documentation.

    I still have no Idea how close I got, but from the kudos and pats on the back I have received, I must of gotten pretty darn close. I was also asked to be a witness for the Sony vs. Connectix trial to show that Sony's claims of trade secrets was a pretty moot point. Before I was called to trial , Sony bought the Virtual GameStation division from Connectix. That in itself also proves to me that the doc is a little more than just a bunch a numbers I pulled out of my butt.

    After I published the doc, I kind of picked up intellectual property law as sort of a hobby. I figured that between Linux programming and studying Japanese linguistics, one more esoteric hobby couldn't hurt. I watched as intellectual property disputes raised issues that was supposedly solved over 100 years ago, but somehow it's different today simply because the media is digital now. I also watched as John Q. Public didn't care and continue not to do so. I also sit, bemused, as companies take advantage of this. In the future people won't care simply because "it was always like that"

    So imagine my shock when I learned that Sony was releasing a version of Linux for the PS2 in Japan. I was so used to seeing Sony fight tooth-and nail for their intellectual property, especially when it came to their game console. Now here they gave giving away the keys to the store, or were they?

    Allow me to segway for a bit;

    When I lived in Japan from 1992-1996, I saw the state of intellectual property there first hand. For example, normal broadcast radio does not play top 40 hits. Actually any transmission of copyrighted songs over the air, even a sample, must have a royalty paid to the publisher. If you want to listen to music on the radio, you find an American military station broadcasting on base. Japanese singers also do not commonly own the copyright to their own songs, they couldn't give them away even if the wanted to. Concert recordings are also illegal. There is also royalties you have to pay for the subtle music played in department stores, doctor's offices, and on the phone when you are on hold. Videos are divided into "rental" and "non-rental" versions. The "rental" version commonly cost more to the rental house, and the non-rental version must be sold at a particular price point set by the manufacturer for an allotted amount of time. As I'm writing this I have three Japanese items published by Sony that I purchased during a recent jaunt to the country. The first is a concert video, next is a CD, and lastly a PSX game. Along the spine the video, written in big bold Japanese letters are the words "Rental Prohibited". It's also set at a price of 6,700 yen (about $67 USD at the time) with a "Pull Price" of 6,505 yen ($65) This second price is when Sony gives the store permission to "clear the shelves" and can then sell at that price without getting penalized. These are prices set by Sony.

    The CD is set at 2,800 yen ($28) with a pull price of 2,718 yen (a buck cheaper) These prices were set until July 15, 1992. The CD was published in 1988. Lastly, my Japanese PSX game just set at a pull price of 5,800 ($58) It's up to the store to set something higher for profit

    So now you could understand why I was so amazed to see Sony selling a Linux kit! Linux and proprietary hardware do not go hand-in-hand. What about all the trade secrets that Sony waged a war in order to protect? It wasn't adding up. Their last PSX "hobby system", the Net Yaroze, game with some pretty steep intellectual property requirements. They required you to sign a Non-Disclosure agreement, relinquish all copyright control to the programs you made to Sony, and you had to use statically linked run-time libraries that not only bloated code, but kept you fingers out of the hardware. You also had no access to the CD-ROM. You have to upload your code (no more than 2 meg, including the library) via a slow serial connection and execute remotely.

    As more information came out about the PS2 Linux, I have found that even though they don't technically violate GPL, they are doing some pretty shifty things to make sure that their intellectual property is intact. From both the Japanese and English FAQs I have read, I have found out how they did it. Now I haven't played with the Japanese PS2 Linux system, but I've read Japanese reports. I'm also a Linux enthusiast, and though I can't claim I know every facet of the OS, I know how to roll my own distribution from scratch. What bothers me to no end, and the key to Sony's ability to keeping the PS2 locked out of even the most uber of superusers is the use of what called "The PlayStation 2 Runtime Environment"

    This is how the Runtime Environment (RTE) works. In order to get Linux running on your PS2, you must boot the system using the PS2 Linux DVD. During boot, after all the copy-protection stuff is taken care of, the system lays down the Runtime Environment. This is basically a layer that hides access to the SPU2 (Sound Processing Unit), the input/output processor, the hard drive, the CD/DVD-ROM system, the controllers, memory cards, USB, i.Link and other peripherals. The RTE does supply hardware looking hooks, an educated guess being faux-memory address and registers. Then the Linux kernel is loaded onto of this. There are Linux device drivers that accesses the Runtime Environment that are open source, but it's just a device driver calling in all actuality, another device driver that's closed.

    What you can and can't do with the system is limited. You have no ability to read a normal PSX or PS2 memory card directly. For example you can't open a Final Fantasy X save, edit how much cash you have, and save it again. Through the RTE you can format a whole memory card(!) and mount it like an 8 meg hard drive, but that card would be worthless for saving normal PS2 games. Once you put the Linux formatted card without Linux running (i.e. you are in the browser) it's ask to reformat the card.

    The RTE also not allow audio CDs to be identified. It also can tell if you have put in a CD-R or not (it can see a wobble track, which all CD-Rs have ) and likewise not allow the disk to be seen. A PS2 can read CD-Rs fine, the RTE is just doing copy protection first to make sure you can't. You will also have no access to the CSS portion of the MPEG decoder, but you can decode raw MPEG-4. Direct access to the Dolby subsystem is also denied. Anything dealing with region locks are also restricted.

    The first DVD (The boot disk) has a Linux boot loader and the RTE on it. This disk is not allowed to be copied. It also has the manuals on it too, which I'm sure are also copyrighted and not allowed to be publicly distributed. The Linux kernel is on the second disk and also on the hard drive after it's installed.

    In order to use a monitor, you must one that is "Sync on Green" . This means that the refresh rate is only in the green channel. The monitor must use that sync pulse to sync red and blue channels so they all get painted in the screen at the same time. The reason why you have to use that is because a PS2 can turn it's sync on green ability on and off. If you try and use the monitor adapter for playing PS2 games or watching DVDs, sync on green will be turned off and only the green channel will show up. Direct video output defeats Macrovision. Sony doesn't want you making copies of DVDs to tape.

    Keep in mind that your network adapter is going to have a MAC address that Sony, no doubt, knows. Also removing the PS2 hard drive and attempting to mount in a PC will also likely not work and possibly damage the drive.

    That's about it. Any questions or comments can be directed at me. I'm probably not going to pick up a Linux kit for my PS2 because I really can't afford it and I have a much more open version of Linux on my other PC. I'm not trying to dump on the system. I'm just trying to make people a little bit more aware. If I have anything wrong please correct me. Any negative comments must be processed through /dev/null before sending them me. ^_^

    Back to home

    halkun@execpc.com

  27. Re:here's a mirror in case the site gets slashdott by Hes+Nikke · · Score: 2, Redundant · on Looking Closely at the Restrictions of Linux on the PS2
    hear is a readable version (actuly it's more readable then the orignal!):
    Linux for the PS2 and Sony's Intellectual Property

    In a few months Sony Computer Entertainment of America will be releasing a version of Linux for their terribly popular Playstation 2. I can't help but to feel a little worried about this. Is Sony's PS2 Version of Linux Free, as in Freedom? Sony's never been one to be very forthcoming when it comes to giving their intellectual property away for free. Anyone familiar with my Playstation Documentation Project know that I have a past with Sony. Thankfully only by proxy. Not to go into outrageous details, but my documentation came about from a bet that I had with a Sony representative. It was during the first volleys of Sony's litigation with "Bleem!", a small two-man company that set out to make a commercial Playstation 1 (PSX) emulator for PC. Sony, at the time, was claming that the creation of the "Bleem!" violated countless patents, copyrights, and trade secrets. I, for one, thought the trade secret argument was a bunch of hooey. I speak and read Japanese and seen all kinds of documents about how the PSX functioned from both sides of the pond. Also homebrew developers and professionals were swapping notes in a wildly open mailing list that I had subscribed to. With this wealth of information in hand, I bet my Sony rep that I could peg about 75% of the internal architecture of the PSX without signing a Non-Discourse Agreement (NDA) with Sony, or using any official Sony documentation.

    I still have no Idea how close I got, but from the kudos and pats on the back I have received, I must of gotten pretty darn close. I was also asked to be a witness for the Sony vs. Connectix trial to show that Sony's claims of trade secrets was a pretty moot point. Before I was called to trial , Sony bought the Virtual GameStation division from Connectix. That in itself also proves to me that the doc is a little more than just a bunch a numbers I pulled out of my butt.

    After I published the doc, I kind of picked up intellectual property law as sort of a hobby. I figured that between Linux programming and studying Japanese linguistics, one more esoteric hobby couldn't hurt. I watched as intellectual property disputes raised issues that was supposedly solved over 100 years ago, but somehow it's different today simply because the media is digital now. I also watched as John Q. Public didn't care and continue not to do so. I also sit, bemused, as companies take advantage of this. In the future people won't care simply because "it was always like that"

    So imagine my shock when I learned that Sony was releasing a version of Linux for the PS2 in Japan. I was so used to seeing Sony fight tooth-and nail for their intellectual property, especially when it came to their game console. Now here they gave giving away the keys to the store, or were they?

    Allow me to segway for a bit;

    When I lived in Japan from 1992-1996, I saw the state of intellectual property there first hand. For example, normal broadcast radio does not play top 40 hits. Actually any transmission of copyrighted songs over the air, even a sample, must have a royalty paid to the publisher. If you want to listen to music on the radio, you find an American military station broadcasting on base. Japanese singers also do not commonly own the copyright to their own songs, they couldn't give them away even if the wanted to. Concert recordings are also illegal. There is also royalties you have to pay for the subtle music played in department stores, doctor's offices, and on the phone when you are on hold. Videos are divided into "rental" and "non-rental" versions. The "rental" version commonly cost more to the rental house, and the non-rental version must be sold at a particular price point set by the manufacturer for an allotted amount of time. As I'm writing this I have three Japanese items published by Sony that I purchased during a recent jaunt to the country. The first is a concert video, next is a CD, and lastly a PSX game. Along the spine the video, written in big bold Japanese letters are the words "Rental Prohibited". It's also set at a price of 6,700 yen (about $67 USD at the time) with a "Pull Price" of 6,505 yen ($65) This second price is when Sony gives the store permission to "clear the shelves" and can then sell at that price without getting penalized. These are prices set by Sony.

    The CD is set at 2,800 yen ($28) with a pull price of 2,718 yen (a buck cheaper) These prices were set until July 15, 1992. The CD was published in 1988. Lastly, my Japanese PSX game just set at a pull price of 5,800 ($58) It's up to the store to set something higher for profit

    So now you could understand why I was so amazed to see Sony selling a Linux kit! Linux and proprietary hardware do not go hand-in-hand. What about all the trade secrets that Sony waged a war in order to protect? It wasn't adding up. Their last PSX "hobby system", the Net Yaroze, game with some pretty steep intellectual property requirements. They required you to sign a Non-Disclosure agreement, relinquish all copyright control to the programs you made to Sony, and you had to use statically linked run-time libraries that not only bloated code, but kept you fingers out of the hardware. You also had no access to the CD-ROM. You have to upload your code (no more than 2 meg, including the library) via a slow serial connection and execute remotely.

    As more information came out about the PS2 Linux, I have found that even though they don't technically violate GPL, they are doing some pretty shifty things to make sure that their intellectual property is intact. From both the Japanese and English FAQs I have read, I have found out how they did it. Now I haven't played with the Japanese PS2 Linux system, but I've read Japanese reports. I'm also a Linux enthusiast, and though I can't claim I know every facet of the OS, I know how to roll my own distribution from scratch. What bothers me to no end, and the key to Sony's ability to keeping the PS2 locked out of even the most uber of superusers is the use of what called "The PlayStation 2 Runtime Environment"

    This is how the Runtime Environment (RTE) works. In order to get Linux running on your PS2, you must boot the system using the PS2 Linux DVD. During boot, after all the copy-protection stuff is taken care of, the system lays down the Runtime Environment. This is basically a layer that hides access to the SPU2 (Sound Processing Unit), the input/output processor, the hard drive, the CD/DVD-ROM system, the controllers, memory cards, USB, i.Link and other peripherals. The RTE does supply hardware looking hooks, an educated guess being faux-memory address and registers. Then the Linux kernel is loaded onto of this. There are Linux device drivers that accesses the Runtime Environment that are open source, but it's just a device driver calling in all actuality, another device driver that's closed.

    What you can and can't do with the system is limited. You have no ability to read a normal PSX or PS2 memory card directly. For example you can't open a Final Fantasy X save, edit how much cash you have, and save it again. Through the RTE you can format a whole memory card(!) and mount it like an 8 meg hard drive, but that card would be worthless for saving normal PS2 games. Once you put the Linux formatted card without Linux running (i.e. you are in the browser) it's ask to reformat the card.

    The RTE also not allow audio CDs to be identified. It also can tell if you have put in a CD-R or not (it can see a wobble track, which all CD-Rs have ) and likewise not allow the disk to be seen. A PS2 can read CD-Rs fine, the RTE is just doing copy protection first to make sure you can't. You will also have no access to the CSS portion of the MPEG decoder, but you can decode raw MPEG-4. Direct access to the Dolby subsystem is also denied. Anything dealing with region locks are also restricted.

    The first DVD (The boot disk) has a Linux boot loader and the RTE on it. This disk is not allowed to be copied. It also has the manuals on it too, which I'm sure are also copyrighted and not allowed to be publicly distributed. The Linux kernel is on the second disk and also on the hard drive after it's installed.

    In order to use a monitor, you must one that is "Sync on Green" . This means that the refresh rate is only in the green channel. The monitor must use that sync pulse to sync red and blue channels so they all get painted in the screen at the same time. The reason why you have to use that is because a PS2 can turn it's sync on green ability on and off. If you try and use the monitor adapter for playing PS2 games or watching DVDs, sync on green will be turned off and only the green channel will show up. Direct video output defeats Macrovision. Sony doesn't want you making copies of DVDs to tape.

    Keep in mind that your network adapter is going to have a MAC address that Sony, no doubt, knows. Also removing the PS2 hard drive and attempting to mount in a PC will also likely not work and possibly damage the drive.

    That's about it. Any questions or comments can be directed at me. I'm probably not going to pick up a Linux kit for my PS2 because I really can't afford it and I have a much more open version of Linux on my other PC. I'm not trying to dump on the system. I'm just trying to make people a little bit more aware. If I have anything wrong please correct me. Any negative comments must be processed through /dev/null before sending them me. ^_^

    Back to home

    halkun@execpc.com

  28. Something about this doesn't feel right. by Hal-kun · · Score: 5, Informative · on Sony Announces Version 1.0 Of Linux for Playstation 2

    After I wrote my Playstation Documentation Project I have had to dance with Sony playing the intellectual property game with me and Connectix. I've taken up a hobby of watching Sony pretty closely when it comes to them protecting thier I.P. and tend to become even more intrested when they start becoming "generous" like this. It's hard to think that there are no strings attached. Allow me to give you a little history.

    When Sony released the "Net Yaroze" (A grey PSX painted black for hobbiests), there was a very restrictive licence in the contract you had to sign. This included a "all programs created with the Yaroze are property of Sony" clause. They also popped in an NDA for good mesure too. It was a little too resticting for me.

    When I was halfway though my Doc, I let my e-mail show up on a PSXDev mailing list informing them of the Doc I was working on. I almost immidiatly got an e-mail from Sony of Japan(!) asking if I spoke Japanese. When I answered that I did, I got a real nastygram in Japanese basicly saying that if I even think about publising any of the libary commands to the PSX I'd be up the proverbial estuary without means of locomotion. A few months later I published, had a little tussle about the BIOS hooks, and now I'm here.

    I haven't played with the Japanese Linux for PS2, but it still stinks. I used to live in Japan and know first hand that they have very restrictive intellectual property laws. (Like music CDs that are made for rental and others that you can buy, but they have to be at a sold at a particular price set by the company.) I can tell you right away, If you are thinking of doing anything that reqires accessing the CD/DVD-ROM, such as DVD Playback, reading files files from a disk, or even finding something in /dev you are going to be sorely disappointed. If you can access the CD-ROM, color me suprised.

    Be aware that were will probably going to be proprietary drives/libs that you will not be able to reverse without Sony calling the lawyers. I know you will have *ZERO* access to the bootloader. Once again, if this isn't the case, I'll be pleasently suprised again.

    Finally, I doubt that you will be able to play PS2 games/DVDs out of the moniter adapter. If you do, if I remeber, you will only get the green channel to show up.

    I'm also sure that if you make a copy of the Linux disk for some sap with a hacked harddrive and a modchip, Sony will be knocking.

    Just a heads up.

    -Joshua Walker

  29. Where is the active cooling? by Bob_Robertson · · Score: 2, Interesting · on Wriggling Heat Sinks

    Fans, fans fans. Might as well use a Tesla Turbine to move ungodly volumes of air with very little noise. No fan blades, no resonance with the heat sink blades to make loud whine or buzz. Just the hiss of moving air over the heat sink blades.

    However, solid state heat transfer has been around for ages. I would love to find an advert for a 12-volt refridgerator for camping that I saw back in the 1970's. It used a pezo film between two heat sinks, one on the inside and one on the outside. Apply the voltage, and heat was moved actively into the outside heat sink, enough to chill your beer and keep the fish fresh on the trip home.

    Put such a film between the chip and a heat sink. Gosh wow, a cool CPU.

    Bob-

  30. You underestimate the following of groups by YorkshireONE · · Score: 1 · on Napster Going Legit

    "The truth is, it has already started happening. Concert attendance has been plumetting over the last 10 years, because nobody seriously thinks any band really matters anymore. The biggest draws are leftover bands from the era when people actually cared (like U2). It seems to me that most people no longer consider their favorite music to be an integral part of their identity the way they did in the past. While the latest release from Weezer might be mildly entertaining, nobody is going to worship them the way throngs of stoners once went apeshit over Led Zeppelin; nobody is going to follow them from city to city the way caravans followed the Grateful Dead. Rock n Roll has become a dead religion. "

    LimpBizkit, Marilyn Manson, Linkin park, Blink182 T-shirt sales and merchandise are higher than ever, even beating sales of Iron Maiden and Ozzy T-shirts in the 80's.
    There are still groups like Ozric Tentacles who have a certain type of fan who will live the deadhead lifestyle.
    Marilyn Manson could command kids to do whatever he wanted. Just plant a meme in each song, sprinkle on a little LedZep occultism. Make the parents hate it.
    Oops he has already.

  31. more rocket pages here by gnalle · · Score: 5 · on Rockets of Doom From Carmack And Friends

    Have a look at the water rocket page and a very nice page about the rocket equations. There is also a good page on howstuffworks

  32. intro question about cryptography. by plcurechax · · Score: 1 · on Are Open Standards Bad for Encryption?
    Kerchkhoff's Principle: The security of the crypto-system must not depend on keeping secret the crypto-algorithm. The security depends only on keeping secret the key. (written in 1883)

    Why did Kerchkhoff made such a radical statement? Because over the last, oh roughly 500 years, history has told the sad tale of bold cryptographers who sold their systems as unbreakable, and grossly underestimated the inventiveness of their enemies.

    Ciphers (encryption algorithms) need to be designed to withstand the most cunning of oppositions. Who's main method is thinking "out of the box" to come up with diffierental cryptanalysis, timing attacks -- timing how long an encryption takes, differential power analysis -- measuring the power consumption, impossible cryptanalysis -- figuring which differentials aren't possible).

    Bruce Schneier at Counterpane Labs and Ross Anderson at Security Group at Cambridge University have several essays about how security systems fail because the enemy "breaks the rules". (Why Cryptosystems Fail, Why Cryptography Is Harder Than It Looks, etc.)

    To understand more about how "security through obsurity" does more harm than good, read any one of the dozen accounts about the Engima used during World War II, and the Anglo-American (and Polish) effort which successfully analysed this "unbreakable" system. Like Code Breaking, The Code Breakers, or The Code Book.

  33. This Goes to Show by jjr · · Score: 2 · on Sony And Connectix Settle Out Of Court

    If someone has a the will they can figure out how something works. If you are wondering what I am talking about look at these docs. Some took apart thier playstation and figured out how it works.

  34. Re:Pretty vague.. by ConsumedByTV · · Score: 3 · on Sony And Connectix Settle Out Of Court

    There has been precedent.
    What argument is even left on sonys side? Read this if you want to know about every thing connectix has been able to emulate.

    After all as long as they continute to use hardware that can be easily put into a computer (eg: standard cdrom or dvd) they will get this type of problem. I personaly dont understand why anyone would even want to play a playstation anymore, I would rather use a computer with emulation because they can enhance every aspect.

    The best part of emulation I have encountered is that I can use cheap controlers and have cheap game saving storage. I wont even get into the blockbuster rent thing...


    Fight censors!

  35. Re:This weapon is probably more for domestic uses by kahuna720 · · Score: 1 · on Marine Corps Testing Maser for Anti-Personnel Use

    heh. Perhaps they weren't really "our more radical elements"...it is common for agents provocateur, "strike breakers", and fun disinfo stuff like the Black Panther Coloring Book to be utilized in discrediting any dissent of the status quo. Many believe that the violence during the WTO event falls along similar lines.

    As the Prophet spoke: "Go back to bed America, your government is in control."

  36. Re:And lo, the mechanic speaks. by devin · · Score: 1 · on Air-Powered Cars

    Not just any turbine, but how about a Tesla Turbine? There is a Tesla Engine Builders Association involved in building these, but I think their focus is on steam rather than compressed air.

  37. Re:Not yet... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3 · on More Threats From The MPAA
    1. http://xgov.net/dvd/DeCSS.zip and http://xgov.net/dvd/decss.tar.gz

    2. http://www.2600.com/news/1999/11 12-files/DeCSS.zip/ and http://www.2600.com/news/1 999/1112-files/css-auth.tar.gz
    3. http://douglas.min.net/~drw/css-auth/
    4. http://www.devzero.org/freecss.html
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    6. http://www.geociti es.com/ResearchTriangle/Campus/8877/index.html
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    8. http://www.vexed.net/CSS
    9. http://members.brabant.chello.nl/~j.vr eeken/
    10. http://www.dvd.eavy.de/css-auth.tar.gz and http://www.dvd.eavy.de/DeCSS.zip
    11. http://www.eavy.net/stuff/dvd/css-aut h.tar.gz and http://www.eavy.net/stuff/dvd/DeCSS.zip
    12. http://frozenlinux.com/local/decss/in dex.html
    13. http://www.unitycode.org/
    14. http://dirtass.beyatch.net/decss.zip
    15. http://decss.tripod.com/index.html
    16. http://www.free-dvd.org.lu/
    17. http://www.angelfire.com/in2/mirror/
    18. http://batman.jytol.fi/~vuori/dvd/
    19. http://www.zpok.demon.co.uk/deCSS/CSS.ht ml
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    28. http://www.lemuria.org/DeCSS/
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    55. http://www.crosswinds.net/~valo/DeCSS/
    56. http://members.home.com/christopherlee/ dvd/
    57. http://members.xoom.com/freedecss/
    58. http://63.225.181.97/decss/
    59. ftp://alma.dhs.org/pub/DVD/
    60. http://www.dynamsol.com/satanix/DeCSS.zip and http://www.dynamsol.com/satanix/css -auth.tar.gz
    61. http://mun itions.cifs.org/software/algorithms/streamciphers/ decss.tar.gz
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    63. http://www.cgocable.net/~jdionne/css/
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    76. http://www.bard.org.il/~marc/dvd
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    79. http://www.itouch.net/~jm/dvd.html
    80. http://ils.unc.edu/inls183/resources .shtml#DVD
    81. http://avdira.cc.duth.gr/~kkonstan/css/
    82. http://www.multimania.com/sxpert/decss/
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    92. http://www.isn.net/~dsimeone/DeCSS.zip
    93. http://logical-solutions.com.au/DeCSS.zip
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    95. http://www.fsp.com/
    96. http://www.warren-wilson.edu/~echerry/dvd
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    98. http://dB.org/dvd/
    99. http://dcwi.com/~wench/decss
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    105. http://www.asleep.net/dvd
    106. http://members.xoom.com/NiKeX
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    117. ftp://ftp.foon.net/pub/decss
    118. http://osiris.978.org/~brianr/css/
    119. http://earnestdesigns.com/dvd
    120. http://www.satl.com/~satlpop6/
    121. http://xempt.darpa.org:81/decss/
    122. ftp://cm-d0415.resnet.ucsc.edu/p ub/css-auth.tar.gz
    123. http://www.mit.edu/afs/sipb/user /mycroft/css-auth/
    124. http://www.eyrie.demon.co.uk/derek/dvd/c ss
    125. http://ananke.hack.pl
    126. http://budice.ancients.net/www.free -dvd.org.lu/
    127. http://defiance.darktech.org/decss/
    128. http://kesagatame.tripod.com
    129. http://www.angelfire.com/pokemon/decss
    130. http://www.gnosis.cx/download/DeCSS.zip
    131. http://bone.powersurfr.com/DeCSS/
    132. http://wakeupthe.net/dvd/
    133. http://everest.yooniks.org/dvd
    134. http://cubicmetercrystal.com/decss/
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    136. http://homepages.together.net/~ib nzahid/DeCSS.zip
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    138. http://people.ne.mediaone.net/dantepsn/
    139. http://members.xoom.com/mxpxguy/dvd/
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    154. http://www.projectgamma.com/deccs/
    155. http://members.xoom.com/mogreen/decss/
    156. http://thrash.webjump.com/decss.zip
    157. http://www.angelfire.com/de2/decss/dec ss.htm
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    159. http://www.ithink.org/dvd/
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    161. http://chaz.fsgs.com/misc/DvD/
    162. http://www.linuxstart.com/~kv ance/projects/decss.html
    163. http://www.darkkingz.com/DeCSS.zip
    164. http://come.to/intelex
    165. http://ebmedia.net/dvd/
    166. http://www.geocities.com/decss_forever/
    167. http://revolution.3-cities.com/~spack/dv d/
    168. http://www.geocities.com/Sili conValley/Software/8762/
    169. http://members.xoom.com/s_o_sam/help.html
    170. http://smokering.org
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    172. http://dlsf.org
    173. http://home.rmci.net/bert/dvd
    174. http://thrash.webjump.com/decss.zip
    175. http://linux.uci.agh.edu.pl/~outlaw/ decss.html
    176. http://debian.mps.krakow.pl/mirror/css/
    177. http://www.fission.org/~mangino
    178. http://212.187.12.197/decss/
    179. http://www.clarkson.edu/~andrixjr /decss/DeCSS.zip
    180. http://www.geocities.com/Capitol Hill/1583/dvd.html
    181. http://members.xoom.com/freedecss/
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    207. http://decss.globalservice.hu/
  38. Liar Liar, Pants on Fire or (-1, Clueless FUD) by Carnage4Life · · Score: 4 · on GNOME Foundation, UI And Linux

    Simply because Open Source projects do not use it does not make CORBA a failure. This is the same as saying Java/COM/iMacs/Oracle databases etc. are failures because you haven't seen an Open Source project that uses them.

    There are a large number of closed source, large scale (millions of lines of code) products that use CORBA that the average sysadmin/linux hacker/whatever will never see or get to use. As an example, the company I worked at this summer (i2 technologies ITWO) has a been generating millions of dollars in revenue with a CORBA based Supply Chain Management application for the past couple of years.

    You see Corba is broken. but only a little. In order to use it you must build something else on top that actually talks to your apps.

    Isn't that what the CORBA Component Model was designed to fix?

    PS: I am a distributed computing junkie and am currently doing research into RMI/CORBA/DCOM and have found a bunch of interesting articles that break down these technologies for people who are wondering what exactly they are...here's an article that compares all three.


    (-1 Troll)

  39. i dont get it by anethema · · Score: 1 · on Are Nitrogen Powered Cars The Future?

    I havent read the 400 posts before me yet.
    but.
    i dont get what the big deal is. no one is looking for less polution. they want cheaper gas, and to not put the polution right over the citys and everything where all the people are.
    if nitrogen is kept in a sturdy tank, it can be kept liquid at any temperature (within reason.)
    Look at nuclear power plants. they have very high temp liquid water runing thru pipes.
    nitrogen will expand to turn a turbine (a tesla tubine (highly efficent, and relatively maintenance free)if people are smart) and it will expand because its boiling point is low. its also warm so will have some of the energy it needs to expand.

  40. Answering the Question by richardbowers · · Score: 2 · on What's Apple's Legal Basis For Blocking Cube Previews?
    Here's what I found (at http://execpc.com/~mhallign/crime.html):
    On October 11, 1996, President Clinton signed "The Economic Espionage Act of 1996" into law. The theft of trade secrets is now a federal criminal offense.

    This is a major development in the law of trade secrets in the United States and internationally. The Department of Justice now has sweeping authority to prosecute trade secret theft whether it is in the United States, via the Internet, or outside the United States.

    Section 1832 of the Act makes it a federal criminal act for any person to convert a trade secret to his own benefit or the benefit of others intending or knowing that the offense will injure any owner of the trade secret. The conversion of a trade secret is defined broadly to cover every conceivable act of trade secret misappropriation including theft, appropriation without authorization, concealment, fraud artifice, deception, copying without authorization, duplication, sketches, drawings, photographs, downloads, uploads, alterations, destruction, photocopies, transmissions, deliveries, mail, communications, or other transfers or conveyances of such trade secrets without authorization.

    The Act also makes it a federal criminal offense to receive, buy or possess the trade secret information of another person knowing the same to have been stolen, appropriated, obtained or converted without the trade secret owner's authorization.The definition of a "trade secret" in the Act generally tracks the definition of a trade secret in the Uniform Trade Secrets Act but expands the definition of a trade secret to include the new technological ways that trade secrets are created and stored. There's a ton of other useful information out there as well, including various state laws and supreme court decisions.

    End of Quote

    I had done research on trade secret law about five years ago, and even then there was a lot of case law supporting trade secret protection. Many states have laws that are applicable, in addition to the federal laws. To find other good sites, just search: I typed in "Trade Secret Law" in my browser, and its search returned dozens of good hits, including the above.

  41. Re:Trade Secret Law by richardbowers · · Score: 5 · on What's Apple's Legal Basis For Blocking Cube Previews?

    Um...no. Try searching on "Trade Secret Law" :)
    Here's what I found (at http://execpc.com/~mhallign/crime.html): On October 11, 1996, President Clinton signed "The Economic Espionage Act of 1996" into law. The theft of trade secrets is now a federal criminal offense. This is a major development in the law of trade secrets in the United States and internationally. The Department of Justice now has sweeping authority to prosecute trade secret theft whether it is in the United States, via the Internet, or outside the United States. Section 1832 of the Act makes it a federal criminal act for any person to convert a trade secret to his own benefit or the benefit of others intending or knowing that the offense will injure any owner of the trade secret. The conversion of a trade secret is defined broadly to cover every conceivable act of trade secret misappropriation including theft, appropriation without authorization, concealment, fraud artifice, deception, copying without authorization, duplication, sketches, drawings, photographs, downloads, uploads, alterations, destruction, photocopies, transmissions, deliveries, mail, communications, or other transfers or conveyances of such trade secrets without authorization. The Act also makes it a federal criminal offense to receive, buy or possess the trade secret information of another person knowing the same to have been stolen, appropriated, obtained or converted without the trade secret owner's authorization.The definition of a "trade secret" in the Act generally tracks the definition of a trade secret in the Uniform Trade Secrets Act but expands the definition of a trade secret to include the new technological ways that trade secrets are created and stored. There's a ton of other useful information out there as well, including various state laws and supreme court decisions.

  42. Re:Trade Secret Law by Xenu · · Score: 3 · on What's Apple's Legal Basis For Blocking Cube Previews?
    From THIRD-PARTY LIABILITY FOR TRADE SECRET MISAPPROPRIATION, R. MARK HALLIGAN, ESQ.

    Liability for trade secret misappropriation is not limited to actual trade secret violators. A variety of third parties can get caught in the "web" of trade secret misappropriation if such persons knew or had reason to know that they are the recipients of unauthorized trade secret information. Third-party liability for trade secret misappropriation is a critical component of trade secret law because often third parties are the only ones with "deep pockets'" for the recovery of damages for trade secret violations.
  43. Playstation games by mrogers · · Score: 2 · on Ideas for High School Computer Projects?
    Get them to write a Playstation game as a class project.

    Dev tools and information are available online here, here and here.

    The hardware's inexpensive (very cheap compared to PCs).

    You can introduce abstract concepts like pointers and pipelining without boring them, because they can see where it's leading.

    MIPS assembly language is quite sane, and there's an excellent text book which teaches architecture and assembly programming using MIPS.

    Splitting up a large project like a game into managable chunks, then sitting down and writing one of them in C/assembler and seeing how your decisions affect the game as a whole will be a much better introduction to OO analysis and design than cramming Java down their throats.

    The amount of performance you can get out of 2 Mb of RAM and a 33 MHz processor should make them think a bit about OS bloat.

    Last but not least, when they finish their project they'll have something to play with.

    (You'll need to fit the Playstations with mod chips if you want to test CDR copies of your game. For simpler/earlier testing a MIPS simulator is available here.)

  44. Hydrogen is the way to go by Cassomundus · · Score: 1 · on Why Do We Still Use Gasoline?

    Switching from once fossil fuel to another is just... well stupid. And I don't know the industrial method for extracting Ethenol, but I expect it involves the purchase of an organic coumpound, and lots of time.

    Hydrogen however is the most available substance in the universe. Hydrogen as fuel could be used in ICEs (Internal Conbustion Engines) such as what you might term the classical gas engine, though I was more referring to Tesla's Disc pump, which can be fueled by anything that creates a pressure differental of matter (79 years ago that was steam). But also Fuel cells whose exhaust is pure H2O.

    Hydrogen is extensivly used in modern society, so the industry for its creation is already there. Beyond that, you could just make your own. I would expect that if cars actually used Hydrogen, it would be fesable to buy a device for about $400-$1000 U.S. that would simply be plugged into an outlet or run off of solar power, and be refreshed with water as needed, producing hydrogen and oxygen through electrolisis at as much as 85% efficency. Hydrogen fuel cells are around 80-90% efficent. Standard ICEs are 10-20% efficent, Tesla's disc pump is about 60% efficent.

    There is a lot of reasearch into hydrogen and hydrogen fuel cells, so learn away.

    At any rate water is cheap as hell, and contains alot of Hydrogen. Electricity is cheap as hell too (compared to gasoline & fossil fuels). So if I remember avigodro's number correctly (and I'm sure I don't) 20 kg of watter = 4 kg of Hydrogen and 16 kg of Oxygen. Now one of you chemists out there can tell us how much energy that is, but I suspect that much fuel would last you at least a weeks worth of commutes.

  45. We found them! by envelopush · · Score: 1 · on Yahoo Will Use Google Instead Of Inktomi
    They are at a baseball stadium where Felipe Alou manages.

    But be careful, because you will be attacked by a bunch of monkeys when you try to climb the stairs.

    When you find them, you will see Jimmy Hoffa coding viruses!!

    And when you finally open the car door, a bunch of fast food bags will come flying out at you!

    WTF? This sounds a lot like an Easter Egg.

  46. We found them! by envelopush · · Score: 1 · on Yahoo Will Use Google Instead Of Inktomi
    They are at a baseball stadium where Felipe Alou manages.

    But be careful, because you will be attacked by a bunch of monkeys when you try to climb the stairs.

    When you find them, you will see Jimmy Hoffa coding viruses!!

    And when you finally open the car door, a bunch of fast food bags will come flying out at you!

    WTF? This sounds a lot like an Easter Egg.

  47. We found them! by envelopush · · Score: 1 · on Yahoo Will Use Google Instead Of Inktomi
    They are at a baseball stadium where Felipe Alou manages.

    But be careful, because you will be attacked by a bunch of monkeys when you try to climb the stairs.

    When you find them, you will see Jimmy Hoffa coding viruses!!

    And when you finally open the car door, a bunch of fast food bags will come flying out at you!

    WTF? This sounds a lot like an Easter Egg.

  48. We found them! by envelopush · · Score: 1 · on Yahoo Will Use Google Instead Of Inktomi
    They are at a baseball stadium where Felipe Alou manages.

    But be careful, because you will be attacked by a bunch of monkeys when you try to climb the stairs.

    When you find them, you will see Jimmy Hoffa coding viruses!!

    And when you finally open the car door, a bunch of fast food bags will come flying out at you!

    WTF? This sounds a lot like an Easter Egg.

  49. New islands, new countries.. by RobSweeney · · Score: 1 · on Researchers Witness Birth Of Volcanic Island

    Claiming (or) building islands to start new countries has been done a bunch of times in the past - famous examples include the Republic of Minerva, which I think is detailed in the Loompanics book someone mentioned. I was looking at this stuff for fun recently - some entertaining links about independence and micronation movements include: Footnotes to History, this Micronations Page, and Homelands - many more exist (sites and pages, not successful micronations unfortunately); it's a popular libertarian topic.

  50. Finally... a story where this is *not* offtopic... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5 · on Oxford Yanks Student Page Over Spoof DeCSS
    and I'm asleep at the keyboard. Doh!

    Oh well... here it is.
    Add your own, and spread this far and wide:

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