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Why stick with RedHat if you feel abandoned by them? If you "need a GOOD and STABLE OS for a REASONABLE price -- and updates, of course" there is Slackware which is noted for it's stability. For updates to Slack, there is swaret and slapt-get (check freshmeat.net to find them). Then of course you could always go with Debian and apt-get, or try a different distro. Take a look over at Distrowatch.com! and see all the choices out there! Just because one vendor is dropping out of a market, that does not mean there is are no replacements!

First of all, I think mouse gestures are wanky and stupid. Gamers, maybe, find them easy because they're used to gesturing crap with their mice. Mine sits and lights up my table more than anything else.

People constantly forget that in order to reach the largest audience possible for your site, you have to make it compatible with the largest audience out there. Far too many sites, attempting to be universally-accessible, have opted to include features that older browsers don't render correctly, can't disable, or generally make it impossible to navigate.

PEOPLE -- If I can't get to your site or can't read it properly using whatever I'm using, I won't be back.

My patience for tricked-out websites that require 99 different plugins to view is zero. My patience for websites that don't render nicely in Lynx or Links is higher, but still not absolute Side Note: I'd like to wring OSDN's neck for making FM and other sites damned near impossible to navigate in text because of their damned OSDN menus. My personal site is built in POH (Plain Old HTML) because it is most universal...I don't care who you are or what you run, you can see it.

First, JavaScript works on a Russian roulette basis...most of the time you'll get an empty chamber, sometimes it'll blow you up. The consistency in implementation leaves something to be desired, especially with more complicated scripts. Secondly, JS is a limiting technology -- if your browser doesn't do it or doesn't do it the way it was meant to do, it'll limit your audience.

If you're ok with the idea of having people not come to your site, fine. There's a lot of sites out there that wouldn't make sense to dumb them down too much (high media sites, etc. come to mind). But if you want a universal audience -- K.I.S.S. Even the trailers section of Apple's website renders nicely under Links, regardless of the fact that they don't have a text-only Quicktime plugin. :)

Dear Johnny,

You've been a bad boy, so I'll give you a Gopher instead...

Best regards,
Santa

LoRS Tools are on Freshmeat
The download link works ok - it seems the slashdotting has merely taken out dynamic HTML generation, not the bandwidth.

Apparently it's under a BSD License - IMHO quite suitable for a publicly funded project. (Flamewar ensues...)

LoRS Tools are on Freshmeat
The download link works ok - it seems the slashdotting has merely taken out dynamic HTML generation, not the bandwidth.

Apparently it's under a BSD License - IMHO quite suitable for a publicly funded project. (Flamewar ensues...)

What a HORRIBLE description this is to compare with BT!!
*shrug* The technologies have different end users in mind, but both are interesting to the same kind of geeks.

Most researchers are probably not interested in BitTorrent since their transfer rates will not be imporved by BitTorrent's model (There's likely only one or two downloads going simultaneously for research data, since the audience isn't large)

The LoRS tools give you read/write.... [full text truncated]

You highlighted a few phrases from the above, and seemed to make a big deal about them. But, basically, this project is like every other Grid project.

Resource owners define the conditions of use, such as when and how the resource can be used (in this case: how much space and for how long). Users can search and see if resources are available that meet their requirements. If a match is made, great. If not, oh well, you can always pay for service to ensure you have what you need.

Also, a Director for this stuff hints at it being a fee-based in the future

LoRS source code is available, see freshmeat.

The software is under the revised BSD license. When they refer to "free (for now)" they're likely refering to the actual storage service.

This is no different than developers of ftp software releasing the client and server for free, but restricting access to their ftp site.

I can certainly see a pay-per terrabyte service. If a researcher needs professional grade quality of service, massive data storage and high bandwidth, they will have the grant money to afford it.

For those that want something cheap, roll your own service, with your own terms.

Gnome-DB is another such application, but it is not as advanced: Gnome-DB

And then there is Aqua Data Studio too, which is also multiplatform and free.

-O3 probably won't help your performance in the first place, and will likely degrade it.

Yes, you're right: -O3 is simply -O2 with -finline-functions and -frename-registers, neither of which are likely to make much difference and -finline-functions could actually slow things down.

There's a fantastic freshmeat editorial from a year or two ago on all this here

CNET does a good job with most of their sites. I use download.com almost as much as I use Freshmeat. I look forward to seeing how they handle this baby.

Hey, start coding.

One way: when you post something to Slashdot, reach the many, many faculty and graduate students who read it by including a URL. Two others:

1. I assume you're talking about higher ed. If so, submit a story about your announcement to Kairosnews and the sites linked from there.
2. Put your stuff in Freshmeat and/or Sourceforge.

I regularly read all of these sites looking for courseware news. I know other folks who do the same.

cbd.

rcsvi is a simple wrapper for vi that puts edited files under revision control. It does not support any vi flags. It only takes one file argument and an optional revision number for reverting to previous versions. A few examples:

# alias vi=rcsvi
# vi /etc/passwd
[ remove Agent Smith's account ]
:wq
/etc/passwd: 12 lines, 94 characters.
enter log message, terminated with single '.' or end of file:
>> Agent Smith's account removed.
.

# vi -r1.2 /etc/passwd
# rlog /etc/passwd
# rcsdiff -r1.2 -r1.3 /etc/passwd

# tar fc /tmp/RCS.tar $(find / -type d -name RCS)

Check it out here

Hmmm, technophobes won't use the command line no matter what. Many novices do not have geek friends to show them how to use the command line. So apt-get and emerge are out of the question for mainstream acceptance.

kpackage works fine most of the time but if you get into trouble, then you will definitely need to go to the command line.

I attempted to use kpackage to install the stable version of mono on debian. It failed and mozilla was thoroughly hosed after that. I had to use dpkg to fix it. It was easier than hacking the registry but harder than shopping on Amazon.

1. I'm trying to figure out if that is an observation or a conclusion.

   Especially considering that on any given week we have a report on slashdot about some large project forking. Hell we have more schisms than the Christianity.

Freshmeat shows ~30,000 projects, while SourceForge shows over 70,000. Obviously some overlap, and many aren't for Linux, though I'll guess that most can be run under Linux.

As for Windows, it comes with very little, and most of it is not very handy. To make it useful, you have to drag along extra tools typically including expensive basics like office software unless you know where to find the no $ cost ones. Linux distributions don't have the same attitude as Microsoft so you tend to get a lot of everything and most of it is good (some dreck -- hell I have 926 packages (not 1:1 for apps!) installed here).

If you take just the Windows text editors available at places like Tucows you're still talking about 50+ for that task alone. Now, look at the desktop modifiers and extentions. A lot of them, eh? There are even complete replacements (Litestep, Blackbox, Bluebox, Cloud9ine, Geoshell) and commercial products like Stardock's Object Desktop.

If there were one best way to do it, these tools wouldn't be available for Windows either.

This is both an observation and a conclusion. It's hard to disprove what exists, so I'll even dare to call it a fact.

1. The great thing about standards is there are so many to choose from.

(Which is also quite an old joke. You can even Google for it. :)

there are at least two of them: OpenCOBOL, TinyCOBOL

can anybody imagine all those COBOL proffesionals (all at twice my age) migrating to something new, just because it's new?

bullshit, it all works now, who needs changes?

there are at least two of them: OpenCOBOL, TinyCOBOL

can anybody imagine all those COBOL proffesionals (all at twice my age) migrating to something new, just because it's new?

bullshit, it all works now, who needs changes?

This makes me wonder, are there any Open Source projects working to provide for this eventual migration?

Just from browsing freshmeat: OpenCOBOL

Metaphors, Analogies and the REAL

a bit more (easy access)

There's plenty more... I've just begun drawing connections into that thread... Shall I introduce you to the woman in red ...training program?

open source project

if anyone else hates yahoogroups because of all their lame ads you *have* to click through, check out this nifty perl script: yahoo2mbox ... you can just let it download all the msgs you want to read and browse them offline in mutt or whatever.

If that's his point he's not looking very hard.

While there are a few others listed here, such as this little one, many applications do require customization though typically they aren't bare generic web services like Apache.

PeopleSoft don't sell pre-made applications that require no configuration changes, and document creators don't write your content, so expecting that open source project should is highly unrealistic.

I actually read your second post earlier, and agree about the time sink part of figuring out all these desktop environments... which is why I use Windowmaker. It's super fast to install, replace, configure, and theme (this took not too much time).

Linux on the desktop exists as an entity, because it's marketed as one
Only by C/NET, Gartner, ziff davis, and the other sheep of the IT press and analysts. When Linux people talk about "Linux on the desktop" I've always understood it to mean the state of the desktop environments/window managers I mentioned before. If someone said "Mac on the desktop" they'd get called on the distinctions - it's not a semantics argument - the facts do matter here.


If you ask Red Hat or SuSE if there is Linux on the desktop, they'll say it's what they sell.
As for SuSE- they bundle many "desktop" options in the X section of the distro. If you want to buy a ready made solution they have the SuSE Desktop, but if you don't buy that, they certainly are not pushing any one "Linux desktop" on you.. RedHat chose Gnome, but neither company is forcing the desktop down your throat. You don't have to install the default distro, at least on SuSE it's easy to make your own install.

DRM as it presently works does not prevent you from playing MP3 files
Maybe you were thinking of another thread, I didn't say that. The DRM stuff in the resale of music and other content as implemented by MS and Apple, is something to remain watchful of, because it is crossing the line of fair use without a full disclosure to the consumer. The situation is just about to get out of hand and being watched by eff fair_use_and_drm.

I can't sneak Macs into my company because they are so expensive, ... This is true even though I experience the PC's crummy TCO every day. ... the Mac will always be a minority because it's more expensive than the cheapest PCs. Cheap PCs may not be the best ones, but they're the ones that sell.

The Mac "sell" on the part of its advocates in the corporate/office environment has always failed. In the past, I've supported Mac groups at Citibank New York, 25 G4 based developers in a New York dot com, while simultaneously supporting and deploying Windows*. The windows platform always turns out to be /extremely/ expensive to maintain - dollars, time, loss of productivity, and wasted emotional energy. We'd see more Macs around if Mac proponents were able to use these facts to good effect.

*(I don't do this anymore, just unix).

well you know, I get all of my information from video games.
Don't penguins kill themselves too?

- a new MS Shell..... integrated with .net and the what ever you call it standard (to be) GUI package
so you take the sum of programming concepts and datatypes and boil them down into a non-conflicting package (Programming issues). In this you also create a GUI system to provide standard GUI functionality (2nd primary UI). Interface these to a Command Line Interface (1st primary UI) and considering the 3rd UI is IPC (inter process communication abilities and somewht inherent in .net ) ------ you have the three primary UIs together and with them you you can create an autocoding environment. add to that voice to text translation .....

From what I have seen of the comments being made on /. regarding the article..... there is an enormus depth of blind ignorance regarding what MS is up to.

Or maybe its just arrogance?



The project

Many are not going to realize they cannot see any further than following MS....when it becomes to late.

Has anyone tried the open-source collaborative editing/annotation tool called AnnotateIT?

Now you know why I use cocoon. Gives me more control, rather than hoping for the best when dealing with browsers. BTW Browser discovery is old hat, and is "unfortunatly" necessary.

to communicate

I could foresee this happening sometime.

Apparently, it already has. I was searching FreshMeat for accounting software today when I stumbled upon this project. Their website says

CC-Manager is an open-source project which is released under GPL.

It's written for insurance and/or investment brokers. The program will help you to manage customers, contracts, claims, dates etc....

I could foresee this happening sometime.

Apparently, it already has. I was searching FreshMeat for accounting software today when I stumbled upon this project. Their website says

CC-Manager is an open-source project which is released under GPL.

It's written for insurance and/or investment brokers. The program will help you to manage customers, contracts, claims, dates etc....

I have no idea how the url got changed to include "slashdot.org" so I'll try again. maybe it was a firebird problem...as preview gave me a slashdot page empty of a preview.

anyway

an autocoding tool project

and as an extra, since I had to correct the link..

more information on autocoding and a link to an excuse to ignore the research and links

Some things you cannot patent or otherwise claim rights to.

Recently I've had 3 enteries in my guestbook that are blatant adverts for rather-dodgy commercial websites. I've deleted them, but wondered if anyone has had similair problems? One was an advert for 'bingo cards' and another for one of those dodgy 'casino' types. Now, what's interesting is that I log the user_agent that was used for all enteries, and all of these adverts stated the user_agent as Snoopy 0.95. If you follow the link you'll see that Snoopy is, infact, a PHP class that emulates a web browser.

Obviously someone has been using it to automate the task of spidering the web and looking for guestbooks and then filling them in with this blatant spam. What suprises me, though, is that I custom wrote my own guestbook, so I'm a little suprised that what appears to be an automated process can work out how to fill in all the fields correctly. I guess my field names are fairly common, but it still managed to work out which was the 'sign' page and fill in the form, including checking radio boxes etc.

I have feeling that the reasoning behind this spam is that it automatically creates a link from my website to the spammer's website (since I have a field for guests to fill in their own website). My guess is that this is a way to generate lots of links back to the spammers' site and increase their Google page ranking. It just amazes me the lengths these people will go!

So they offered Quick Backups as an option rather than as default and you didn't think there must be some compromise? Don't you think that if quick backups were available without compromise, it would happen as standard?

Veritas would crash after restoring only a few gigabytes, requiring us to restart where we left off, only for it to crash again after a few gigabytes. This resulted in a few gaps in the restore.

Given the number of enterprise organisations using Veritas, this sounds a lot like a problem with your setup. Have you spoken to their technical support team? Someone's probably had similar problems before. They can probably identify the problem and help you fix it.

Veritas uses some proprietary format on tape, making it impossible for us to get at the data some other way so that we could write scripts to check what was restored and what was not.

You bought proprietary software, and it uses a proporietary format. Are you surprised? Of course you could always download your enterprise class backup solution from freshmeat. You buy enterprise software because of the support, so call up tech support, explain your problem. Ask them if they have a way of identifying what was backed up and what wasn't.

Veritas support is prohibitively expensive.

Yes, qualified technical experts tend to be. This is enterprise support, not a droid that can get by telling you to reinstall Win9x.

We were down for a week because of this horrible software.

No, you were down for a week because your SysAdmin clearly hadn't tested the company's disaster recovery plan before disaster finally hit. If you don't test your backup solution before you need it you can be 99% sure it'll fail when you do.

Don't worry, Linux is in safe hands. A thousand themers are ripping off the Longhorn look, pixel by pixel, even as we speak!!

• Also, i2c and the lm sensors interface is built right in as well. So now I don't have to compile i2c and lm sensors to know how hot my mobo and cpu are running.

• Asdex

I just took a look at freshemeat.net and it looks like there are at least 9 images on the front page. I would guess that means 9 HTTP requests where the database connection was not used and 1 where it was used.

http://freshmeat.net/projects/knoppixmame/

Can't you use SANE?

CMYK basic support

Yes, this is a commen problem with this type of polls.

That is why I have made eigenpoll
which try to solve this.

Hmmm, interesting..

Considering what is found here and here? and also here.

The idea of having zoomable overviews of desktops really isn't all that new. Some X11 window managers have had them in one form or another. The 3dDesktop project gives you that capability and more (Expose! is a special case in which you map all the windows onto a flat surface).

Expose! sounds like it's nice engineering, but it's not a ground-breaking new insight.

Hell, I could have almost exactly what they want using dchub in a week or two.

Would you be so kind to explain to me exactly how many technologies that .net has that makes it a superset of Java? Maybe you haven't investigated J2EE, J2ME and all the other technologies that are part of the Java platform. Besides, Java has a much larger free software community. Freshmeat, for example, lists 2382 Java projects (that's less than 100 frewer than C++). To be compared to the 46 C# projects.

Want to implement a SOAP web service? Check out GLUE. It allows you to distribute any java object as a SOAP service using only 2 lines of code (one to start the server and one to register the object).

And if you don't want to listen to me, why not read this list. It contains some good stuff.

Why people spend their precious time on a project like Mono with such an unstable (legally) base is beyond me. Why the Linux community seem to embrace .net more than java is even more boggling.

Would you be so kind to explain to me exactly how many technologies that .net has that makes it a superset of Java? Maybe you haven't investigated J2EE, J2ME and all the other technologies that are part of the Java platform. Besides, Java has a much larger free software community. Freshmeat, for example, lists 2382 Java projects (that's less than 100 frewer than C++). To be compared to the 46 C# projects.

Want to implement a SOAP web service? Check out GLUE. It allows you to distribute any java object as a SOAP service using only 2 lines of code (one to start the server and one to register the object).

And if you don't want to listen to me, why not read this list. It contains some good stuff.

Why people spend their precious time on a project like Mono with such an unstable (legally) base is beyond me. Why the Linux community seem to embrace .net more than java is even more boggling.

KDE's Kollab Server may make the "large" enterprise project management task become a little easier.

Combine that with PHPGroupWare or OPT and a Wiki (Twiki, ZWiki, etc) and you'll likely be all set to go

You will need to do a bit of scripting though to integrate all that, but that should be more convenient than going with a commercial solution (eg MS Project Server) and moulding yourselves into that

TCM (Toolkit for Conceptual Modeling)

I found it on freshmeat.net a few months back. I've done ER diagrams, UML, and even some network diagrams using the Generic Diagram editor.

1. start reclaping their Office-suite out with an open one;like OpenOffice (still running on windows)
2. Add Mozilla on their desktop, with the link "Internet Browser" (or other win32 open source allternative. and no, not Opera it is pay-for-app, so unless you want to run WAREZ, leave it be..)
3. (the biggest of them all) under the course of time *slowly* install (and replace only the still paying softwares installed) with alternative win32 open source apps. Here are a few links worth knowing of:
   • List of available open source/software for win32, with urls
   • Complete list of sourceforge.net projects for win32
   • Complete list of freshmeat.net project's for win32
   • Yet another list, though more structured :-)
   • A link to an old related slashdot post
   • ... and if that's not enough for you, just ask slashdot for more links =)
4. and everytime "they/you ask" for a soulution, dig deeper (than an M$/proprietary solution) and give/tell them an open source (still on their win32 platform) solution. (ps, maybe by this time it's time to, a) either send your available "only M$ & windows drones for admins" on open source/software coureses/lectures/conferences.. etc, b) xor if they protest, fire them =) *it's in your right as 'THE BIG HOUNCHO'=)*, and bring in new admins with knowledge deeper in open source/software than M$ *plenty out there...*)
5. ..one year lator *or so*; have available, in a "in-your-face"-kind of place, customized uptodate burned KNOPPIX Cd's somewhere your cooworkers can see them, take one and give it a spin; (HENCE, with all the availible software you are useing on the win32, for the linux platfrom, +plus additional. PS, also good if ${YOU the}/your admin customize more than what apps are on it, and configure it be just as/more like the win32 install you are useing/running....*and such stuff*)

The minigui thingy really isn't new .

If you take a look at FRESHMEAT's minigui page you will see that it was dated way back in 2001.

Hmmm ....

Could it be that minigui is from China, and /. usually has no clue of what's going on in China ?

Because this project is painfully insightful.

Where is freshmeat?

Freshmeat has to be the most addicted, most refreshed site that I know of.

It's like crack knowing that you can go and get new, exciting, cutting-edge software... and hell, it's updated all day long.

I love slashdot... but I think freshmeat deserved a mention as well.

Davak

*cough*

Let me give you a hand here in understanding some of the differences between your list and his:

This is what Dev-C++ looks like.

And this is what gcc looks like.