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Time for change?
Maybe people should consider some other options. Even when MS seems to be making an attempt to fix issues, they always seem to come up short. I think competition is healthy though, cause that means that all software will get better faster. The name Adam Smith comes to mind. I think he said something about how monopolies cause a decrease in the quality and an increase in price of products. With that in mind, the less that people use Windows, the more likely MS is to make an effort to increase the quality of their software.
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Free can mean Babes too - if you use BSD!
IMPORTANT UPDATE: Please show your support for Ceren in this poll of Geek Babes!
Is it any wonder people think Linux users are a bunch of flaming homosexuals when its fronted by obviously gay losers like these?! BSD has a mascot who leaves us in no doubt that this is the OS for real men! If Linux had more hot chicks and gorgeous babes then maybe it would be able to compete with BSD! Hell this girl should be a model!
Linux is a joke as long as it continues to lack sexy girls like her! I mean just look at this girl! Doesn't she excite you? I know this little hottie puts me in need of a cold shower! This guy looks like he is about to cream his pants standing next to such a fox. As you can see, no man can resist this sexy little minx. Don't you wish the guy in this pic was you? Are you telling me you wouldn't like to get your hands on this ass?! Wouldn't this just make your Christmas?! Yes doctor, this uber babe definitely gets my pulse racing! Oh how I envy the lucky girl in this shot! Linux has nothing that can possibly compete. Come on, you must admit she is better than an overweight penguin or a gay looking goat! Wouldn't this be more liklely to influence your choice of OS?
With sexy chicks like the lovely Ceren you could have people queuing up to buy open source products. Could you really refuse to buy a copy of BSD if she told you to? Personally I know I would give my right arm to get this close to such a divine beauty!
Don't be a fag! Join the campaign for more cute open source babes today!
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Re:And who is to blame???
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duDe!OMFG! LOL!!1!
uSe GeNTOo, foO!
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Re:The tagline says it all
So, why was the last tech not interested?
Guess what, the other 40 or so percent are already running Gentoo. -
Ceren causes BSD users to 'lift off'.
IMPORTANT UPDATE: Please show your support for Ceren in this poll of Geek Babes!
Is it any wonder people think Linux users are a bunch of flaming homosexuals when its fronted by obviously gay losers like these?! BSD has a mascot who leaves us in no doubt that this is the OS for real men! If Linux had more hot chicks and gorgeous babes then maybe it would be able to compete with BSD! Hell this girl should be a model!
Linux is a joke as long as it continues to lack sexy girls like her! I mean just look at this girl! Doesn't she excite you? I know this little hottie puts me in need of a cold shower! This guy looks like he is about to cream his pants standing next to such a fox. As you can see, no man can resist this sexy little minx. Don't you wish the guy in this pic was you? Are you telling me you wouldn't like to get your hands on this ass?! Wouldn't this just make your Christmas?! Yes doctor, this uber babe definitely gets my pulse racing! Oh how I envy the lucky girl in this shot! Linux has nothing that can possibly compete. Come on, you must admit she is better than an overweight penguin or a gay looking goat! Wouldn't this be more liklely to influence your choice of OS?
With sexy chicks like the lovely Ceren you could have people queuing up to buy open source products. Could you really refuse to buy a copy of BSD if she told you to? Personally I know I would give my right arm to get this close to such a divine beauty!
Don't be a fag! Join the campaign for more cute open source babes today!
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Re:download.com sucks...
You should try this: http://packages.gentoo.org/. It's almost all GPL'd freeware and it's only a matter of a command to install. It's much easier than download.com.
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Re:Impressions? Or bad reviews?
I'm not saying he's an idiot.. I'm saying his sysadmin skills are lacking. Any knowledgable admin will know what packages they're upgrading before actually doing it. (The same thing goes for Windows.. I don't install a service pack without knowing what changes are going to be made.) The handbook even tells you how to do that right below the update command:
Again, if you want to see what emerge wants to update, use the --pretend option together with the --update option: (Gentoo.org portage howto)
etc-update gives you an option to see the diff between the original and wanna-be merged config file. Check it out next time you need to etc-update.. -
That's nothing, BSD offers sexy girls!
IMPORTANT UPDATE: Please show your support for Ceren in this poll of Geek Babes!
Is it any wonder people think Linux users are a bunch of flaming homosexuals when its fronted by obviously gay losers like these?! BSD has a mascot who leaves us in no doubt that this is the OS for real men! If Linux had more hot chicks and gorgeous babes then maybe it would be able to compete with BSD! Hell this girl should be a model!
Linux is a joke as long as it continues to lack sexy girls like her! I mean just look at this girl! Doesn't she excite you? I know this little hottie puts me in need of a cold shower! This guy looks like he is about to cream his pants standing next to such a fox. As you can see, no man can resist this sexy little minx. Don't you wish the guy in this pic was you? Are you telling me you wouldn't like to get your hands on this ass?! Wouldn't this just make your Christmas?! Yes doctor, this uber babe definitely gets my pulse racing! Oh how I envy the lucky girl in this shot! Linux has nothing that can possibly compete. Come on, you must admit she is better than an overweight penguin or a gay looking goat! Wouldn't this be more liklely to influence your choice of OS?
With sexy chicks like the lovely Ceren you could have people queuing up to buy open source products. Could you really refuse to buy a copy of BSD if she told you to? Personally I know I would give my right arm to get this close to such a divine beauty!
Don't be a fag! Join the campaign for more cute open source babes today!
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Some Suggestions
Server software:- OpenBSD if you can handle it, (link with some info on how to install it here) hardened Gentoo if you can't. I'll probably get flamed for suggesting what seems like massive overkill there, but you mentioned wanting to keep the vermin out, and either of those two will definitely do it.
Client side, I'd probably go either Slackware or Gentoo again myself. Run X with either straight twm or maybe something like fluxbox if you really want, and set a dedicated account ("mozilla" or "guest") using Mozilla/Firefox as the actual login program/shell equivalent. Make sure that account also doesn't have anything other than read access outside that directory as well.
That may sound strange, but I figure the less you give people access to, the less resources you're giving them which they can then use to make mischief.
If you absolutely must, put Open Office on for them to do various other things, but doing that will blow the above plan out of the water almost completely. Personally I'd make it myself so that the only thing they have access to is a web browser. If they want to look up a book, do an HTML interface for the library DB, and they can do any other external surfing they want with that as well.
In terms of the surfing, have a deny-by-default firewall on the server...that way the only sites they can go to are those you specifically include. You won't have to worry about anyone using the system to download porn or other such nasty things, and it's a lot more robust at the firewall level than using some lame thing like Net Nanny that does hit-or-miss keyword screening. Also rather than locking the floppy drives on the clients, I'd actually disconnect the thing and pull it out. You most likely won't need it for anything yourself, and if you have it in there, any lock you've got on it will be pickable, which then opens up another avenue for trojans etc to be uploaded.
If you didn't care about security, you could probably get away with running the network with XP clients and a Linux server, but you mentioned wanting to keep deviants out, and that simply is not possible with anything from Microsloth, IMHO. I remember a few years ago on an NT box in a local library, Explorer was supposedly roped off, but Netscape had the option to change the default HTML source viewer from Notepad to something else, so on a whim I changed it to Explorer, went to view source, and lo and behold it worked, giving me complete access to the system. NT/XP's security quite simply isn't. ;-) -
who needs patents when we have hot geek girls?!
IMPORTANT UPDATE: Please show your support for Ceren in this poll of Geek Babes!
Is it any wonder people think Linux users are a bunch of flaming homosexuals when its fronted by obviously gay losers like these?! BSD has a mascot who leaves us in no doubt that this is the OS for real men! If Linux had more hot chicks and gorgeous babes then maybe it would be able to compete with BSD! Hell this girl should be a model!
Linux is a joke as long as it continues to lack sexy girls like her! I mean just look at this girl! Doesn't she excite you? I know this little hottie puts me in need of a cold shower! This guy looks like he is about to cream his pants standing next to such a fox. As you can see, no man can resist this sexy little minx. Don't you wish the guy in this pic was you? Are you telling me you wouldn't like to get your hands on this ass?! Wouldn't this just make your Christmas?! Yes doctor, this uber babe definitely gets my pulse racing! Oh how I envy the lucky girl in this shot! Linux has nothing that can possibly compete. Come on, you must admit she is better than an overweight penguin or a gay looking goat! Wouldn't this be more liklely to influence your choice of OS?
With sexy chicks like the lovely Ceren you could have people queuing up to buy open source products. Could you really refuse to buy a copy of BSD if she told you to? Personally I know I would give my right arm to get this close to such a divine beauty!
Don't be a fag! Join the campaign for more cute open source babes today!
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Hot Babe Office studies Ceren
IMPORTANT UPDATE: Please show your support for Ceren in this poll of Geek Babes!
Is it any wonder people think Linux users are a bunch of flaming homosexuals when its fronted by obviously gay losers like these?! BSD has a mascot who leaves us in no doubt that this is the OS for real men! If Linux had more hot chicks and gorgeous babes then maybe it would be able to compete with BSD! Hell this girl should be a model!
Linux is a joke as long as it continues to lack sexy girls like her! I mean just look at this girl! Doesn't she excite you? I know this little hottie puts me in need of a cold shower! This guy looks like he is about to cream his pants standing next to such a fox. As you can see, no man can resist this sexy little minx. Don't you wish the guy in this pic was you? Are you telling me you wouldn't like to get your hands on this ass?! Wouldn't this just make your Christmas?! Yes doctor, this uber babe definitely gets my pulse racing! Oh how I envy the lucky girl in this shot! Linux has nothing that can possibly compete. Come on, you must admit she is better than an overweight penguin or a gay looking goat! Wouldn't this be more liklely to influence your choice of OS?
With sexy chicks like the lovely Ceren you could have people queuing up to buy open source products. Could you really refuse to buy a copy of BSD if she told you to? Personally I know I would give my right arm to get this close to such a divine beauty!
Don't be a fag! Join the campaign for more cute open source babes today!
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Re:Linux != GNU
Allow me to toot my own horn for a sec. Gentoo portage on Solaris project It has slowed down a bit but now that OSX has portage I've been contacted by a gentoo developer that is interested in persuing this further.
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Moving programs from OSS to ALSA
Being a Gentoo user, I've been running ALSA for some time. While ALSA has an OSS compat API that you can load, it doesn't allow you to have the full control of more advance cards. (Like the EMU10k1/2 chipsets)
While oss-compat-api will give you basic sound, mixer controls, etc. sometimes you want to do more advanced things. For example, I use a tvtuner app and wanted to be able to control detailed mixer channels (Analog Capture Volume and Analog Playback Volume) that just couldn't be done with OSS. Looking at my app, tvtime, I found it only had OSS mixer controls. So I just took a weekend to learned/wrote the ALSA API version for it. Wasn't too bad and the app works great now. I can configure any control (mixer channel) on any card I want. Hopefully the dev will include the patch I sent it in the 1.0 release this month.
I know that this isn't an option for everyone. But I think as time goes on, more and more apps should have support for ALSA. Especially since it's in the 1.0.x range and the API has become more stable. -
Re: Good Thing there are "Non-Profit" distros
You can't just buy Gentoo Linux, debian or many other distributions for that matter. So even if you buy (out) RedHat, Novell and other (stock listed) companies you simply can not destroy those non-profit organisations.
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Isn't it time...
To go Gentoo?
I mean really? Why should you have to settle for "versions"? Tired of your binary packages demanding specific users and uids for your application? Gentoo increments, it doesn't panic when it can't use UID 500.
Gentoo's security group is more active with linux than debian.
Gentoo gives you a lot more flexibility with the packages you want that debian!
Gentoo has better managed kernel packages than debian.
Gentoo tracks it's dependencies using a state of the art package management, not a bandaided database!
Gentoo has bleading edge stuff! Literally, like 2.6.8_rc3, and it's built from source!
Gentoo has stable stuff, like 2.4.27, and apache 1.3!
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Re:Live CDs?
What I'm curious about is wether live cds for PPC are available. I had heard about a gentoo ppc livecd but I couldn't actually *find* it.
Several Gentoo mirrors have the LiveCD .iso files underexperimental/ppc/livecd/
experimental/ppc64/livecd/
For example Netherlands):http://ftp.easynet.nl/mirror/gentoo/experimental/
p pc/livecd/http://ftp.easynet.nl/mirror/gentoo/experimental/
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Re:Quick!
Well, I've found it pretty helpful just to go on over to the Gentoo 64-bit forums and just read random threads that seem interesting.
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewforum.php?f=46
Gives good insight to speed differences, experiences (they all seem to be pretty good), and technical stuff (cflags, etc). Also I would try asking in #gentoo on irc.freenode.net -- lots of people are running Gentoo on 64-bit processors and are happy to answer questions there. -
Re:The biggest problem Linux currently has
Of course Debian users will argue "well, just do an apt-get install foo", and Gentoo people will tell you to use emerge, but the point for Joe User is not to have to use the command line.
Debian: http://packages.debian.org/synaptic
Gentoo: http://packages.gentoo.org/ebuilds/?kentoo-0.3 or http://packages.gentoo.org/ebuilds/?porthole-0.3.1
SuSE: YaST ...
Most distros have user-friendly graphical package mangers and packages are ${HYPERBOLE} times easier than .msi's and .exe's. But, uh, you were saying...? -
Re:The biggest problem Linux currently has
Of course Debian users will argue "well, just do an apt-get install foo", and Gentoo people will tell you to use emerge, but the point for Joe User is not to have to use the command line.
Debian: http://packages.debian.org/synaptic
Gentoo: http://packages.gentoo.org/ebuilds/?kentoo-0.3 or http://packages.gentoo.org/ebuilds/?porthole-0.3.1
SuSE: YaST ...
Most distros have user-friendly graphical package mangers and packages are ${HYPERBOLE} times easier than .msi's and .exe's. But, uh, you were saying...? -
Re:Even Gentoo works
not debian... apt-get is the father of portage
That's debatable. I would say FreeBSD's ports is the father of portage. No real way to be sure, except that Gentoo's description of portage mentions *BSD's ports, and not apt:
"At first glance the idea behind Portage may seem similar to the traditional BSD ports system. They both compile packages from source and allow users to safely install and uninstall software from a system and both automatically handle dependencies. Many ideas for Portage are borrowed from the BSD ports system but Portage is definitely not just another "ports ripoff"." -
Re:Even Gentoo worksAhem, have you ever thought of the most obvious place to look for buying a Gentoo CD that you can put into your 'cupholder?' Sure the install is still the usual, though from Stage 3 with GRP, it's really not that terribly difficult. No more issues with burning the iso.
So... the Gentoo CD exists, why isn't emerge a viable popular alternative?
PS: It's possible to get portage working on non-gentoo distributions, and people are working on it for the easier to install distros, giving them the ease of OS install AND application install.
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Re:you mean like...
The trick to gentoo is to keep it up to date, so emerge sync and emerge -u world EVERYDAY. At the most you'll compile about 5 - 10 things, but usually you won't be compiling anything. Updating usually takes a tiny fraction of your computing time everyday, and with an x86-64 chip you won't even notice it. Also, for the games, i run the following very nicely in gentoo:
Wolfenstien Enemy Territory
America's Army (in all it's bullshit propagandizing glory)
If you've got an nvidia card, you should have no problem. The docs on the gentoo site will get that going for you. nvidia did release amd64 binary linux drivers, and they are in portage. Just be sure you load the 32-bit libGL.so.x (in /usr/lib32), otherwise the games will complain and die angrily. Hopefully that helps. -
Re:support droppedI believe you can run Gentoo still on the old ones?
Check out the link on this page a few lines down about the gentoo linux ppc faq...will show you all supported macs...
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Re:Gentoo
Yeah it's still not fixed, but when an updated package is available it will still most likely simply be versioned 1.2.5-r8. You can keep a watch on the package and see immediately when it's fixed here.
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Linux power managementI've just completed stripping the WinXP crud out of my laptop (HP Pavilion ze1250, 1.5GHz mobile Athlon) and replacing it with Gentoo.
I've installed PowerNowD . Again, I haven't run it long enough to definitively say what it does for battery life, but my laptop runs so much cooler!. When I'm not putting a load on it, the PowerNowD daemon clocks the cpu down to 500MHz. If I increase the load, it clocks right back up. Before adding the daemon, GKrellM was reporting the cpu temp at ~80C, now it's usually in the low 70s.
Anyone know of a GKrellM plugin that will monitor the cpu freq?
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Re:Not sure what the article author is talking abo
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Re:Debian...
I agree that there are a lot of cluebies that run Testing or, god forbid, Unstable. It's oft suggested, albeit jokingly, that Sid should be password protected, but then this would result in the distribution of crackz and the emergence of "Sid kiddies".
Fact is Unstable breaks. It breaks often and it sometimes breaks horribly. If you have no idea what to do when, for instance, pam breaks do not run Unstable. If you must use it install apt-listbugs.
Testing is...less broken but still not recommended if you don't know what you're doing at all. Tracking 'Sarge' since the freeze should be pretty safe, though.
The problem is, I think, that Woody does not support newer hardware. This is why you find many people tracking Testing/Unstable. Hopefully Sarge's release will fix this somewhat.
Having said all that however, I must say that DD's are some of the most pragmatic people I know, and I am very happy tracking Debian on my boxes.
I have great admiration of the Debian project and philosophy, but frankly I think it's a little too ambitious. They basically want to get a huge number of packages all stable across a huge number of platforms for release. The fact that so many users recommend Unstable or even Testing to end-users points out flaws in the development model IMO.
And so what? These are end-users and Stable does not make a great desktop, for much the same reason that OpenBSD doesn't make a great desktop. You can have new and shiny or you can have old and stable. It's a trade-off that comes up often on Slashdot: Easy of use versus security. -
Can Linux ever beat BSD?
IMPORTANT UPDATE: Please show your support for Ceren in this poll of Geek Babes!
Is it any wonder people think Linux users are a bunch of flaming homosexuals when its fronted by obviously gay losers like these?! BSD has a mascot who leaves us in no doubt that this is the OS for real men! If Linux had more hot chicks and gorgeous babes then maybe it would be able to compete with BSD! Hell this girl should be a model!
Linux is a joke as long as it continues to lack sexy girls like her! I mean just look at this girl! Doesn't she excite you? I know this little hottie puts me in need of a cold shower! This guy looks like he is about to cream his pants standing next to such a fox. As you can see, no man can resist this sexy little minx. Don't you wish the guy in this pic was you? Are you telling me you wouldn't like to get your hands on this ass?! Wouldn't this just make your Christmas?! Yes doctor, this uber babe definitely gets my pulse racing! Oh how I envy the lucky girl in this shot! Linux has nothing that can possibly compete. Come on, you must admit she is better than an overweight penguin or a gay looking goat! Wouldn't this be more liklely to influence your choice of OS?
With sexy chicks like the lovely Ceren you could have people queuing up to buy open source products. Could you really refuse to buy a copy of BSD if she told you to? Personally I know I would give my right arm to get this close to such a divine beauty!
Don't be a fag! Join the campaign for more cute open source babes today!
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BSD wins top babe award!
Is it any wonder people think Linux users are a bunch of flaming homosexuals when its fronted by obviously gay losers like these?! BSD has a mascot who leaves us in no doubt that this is the OS for real men! If Linux had more hot chicks and gorgeous babes then maybe it would be able to compete with BSD! Hell this girl should be a model!
Linux is a joke as long as it continues to lack sexy girls like her! I mean just look at this girl! Doesn't she excite you? I know this little hottie puts me in need of a cold shower! This guy looks like he is about to cream his pants standing next to such a fox. As you can see, no man can resist this sexy little minx. Don't you wish the guy in this pic was you? Are you telling me you wouldn't like to get your hands on this ass?! Wouldn't this just make your Christmas?! Yes doctor, this uber babe definitely gets my pulse racing! Oh how I envy the lucky girl in this shot! Linux has nothing that can possibly compete. Come on, you must admit she is better than an overweight penguin or a gay looking goat! Wouldn't this be more liklely to influence your choice of OS?
With sexy chicks like the lovely Ceren you could have people queuing up to buy open source products. Could you really refuse to buy a copy of BSD if she told you to? Personally I know I would give my right arm to get this close to such a divine beauty!
Don't be a fag! Join the campaign for more cute open source babes today!
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Project GoneME
Read people's opinion about the GoneME project:
Gentoo Forum
Hallendal bLog
Hurst bLog
If you want a chance to change something then take the chance to participate to the GoneME project. This could be the only offer for a fork and change that you might be getting. Every help is welcome.
Project GoneME
Mailinglist
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POSIX Compliance issues.
There's been an interesting little problem caused for people like Gentoo with the updates in bash 3.0.
http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=58703
Just a simple move towards compliance breaks most of their scripts, so they've had to patch it out.
Lovely. -
...one of THESE free linux versions!
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Re:It does matter...
Never, ever, ever, unless you like broken boxes use ACCEPT_KEYWORDS.
Instead, man portage and read about
/etc/portage/package.keywordsOr read this.
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USE-Flag defaults and GRP / bug 48195
Sorry for carrying this offtopic, but are the USE-Flag defaults and GRP USE-Flags in sync on 2004.2? This is a real showstopper - emerge --depclean on a fresh install kills coreutils and others, rendering the system pretty useless and requiring booting from a liveCD and some work to get it up and functional again
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Re:False elitism
Don't validate as HTML 4.01 Transitional in many cases
Doing a quick check I cant find even one of your many cases ...
Aren't accessible to blind or colorblind readers
Why not? The page renders very well even in lynx ...
Are changing font sizes with hard-size values, making the page unreadible for sight-disabled visitors
Where?
False elitism. [...] Please, to all the Gentoo folks still learning HTML in their second-level grade school class, learn to do things right.
You are getting a bit into flame-mode here, arent you? BTW its been taken care of.
These pages aren't generated by an XSLT transformation from XML to HTML (and if they were, they certainly wouldn't be using a .xml handler in the doctype or URI handling).
And gentoo uses GuideXML for most of its Docs ... and even with the glitches described by you thats still far better than for example /. ... -
Re:False elitism
Don't validate as HTML 4.01 Transitional in many cases
Doing a quick check I cant find even one of your many cases ...
Aren't accessible to blind or colorblind readers
Why not? The page renders very well even in lynx ...
Are changing font sizes with hard-size values, making the page unreadible for sight-disabled visitors
Where?
False elitism. [...] Please, to all the Gentoo folks still learning HTML in their second-level grade school class, learn to do things right.
You are getting a bit into flame-mode here, arent you? BTW its been taken care of.
These pages aren't generated by an XSLT transformation from XML to HTML (and if they were, they certainly wouldn't be using a .xml handler in the doctype or URI handling).
And gentoo uses GuideXML for most of its Docs ... and even with the glitches described by you thats still far better than for example /. ... -
Re:It does matter...Um.. Why the
echo "x11-base/xorg-x11 ~x86" >>
Which would mean you always want to use the testing version of x11-base/xorg-x11 /etc/portage/package.keywords"
It appears to me (and I've used it) that x11-base/xorg-x11 has a stable version (which you would want to use unless you have a compelling reason to use the testing version).
http://packages.gentoo.org/search/?sstring=xorg-x1 1 -
gentoo installers
but IMHO Gentoo could really use a decent installer.
gentoo installer project
GLIS
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False elitismWhat I find interesting, and ironic, is that the Gentoo.org website is using openly-visible ".xml" files for each of its pages.. except that they:
- Don't validate as a well-formed XML document
- Are sending an HTML 4.01 Transitional DocType
- Don't validate as HTML 4.01 Transitional in many cases
- Aren't accessible to blind or colorblind readers
- Are changing font sizes with hard-size values, making the page unreadible for sight-disabled visitors
So I have to wonder... why even have them as
.xml pages in the URI request, when they aren't XML and they aren't even valid HTML.False elitism.
These pages aren't generated by an XSLT transformation from XML to HTML (and if they were, they certainly wouldn't be using a
.xml handler in the doctype or URI handling).Please, to all the Gentoo folks still learning HTML in their second-level grade school class, learn to do things right. Make your pages accessible, validate them, and don't try to fake your elitism, without the proper skills to back it up.
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Torrent
http://torrents.gentoo.org/torrents/misc/x86/2004
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sparc32 live CDs not there yet.
I tried downloading and building 2004.1 last week. There is [was?] a silly bug in coreutils preventing a simple
# emerge system
yes, there are work arounds but I want MORE!
my guess is this is the lag in the sparc32 LiveCD.
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DISTCC with Portage (and boostrapping)
wouldn't it be great if we could have some open-network DISTCC farms to use in completing Gentoo builds?
There are no publicized farms that I know of yet, but setting up a host list among friends and office PCs is quite easy under Gentoo. The Gentoo DISTCC Documnetation is a good place to start. This will even work at the bootstrapping stage. -
Re:Torrents
The link is there one news down from the release one
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Re:How to upgrade
rm
The parent is quite right, and unlike 2004.1, which used the 2004.0 profile for x86, 2004.2 comes with a new set of profiles. Here's some documentation covering the subject of profiles. The document hasn't yet been updated to reference 2004.2; however, it is still very useful. Anyways, if you want to update to the 2004.2 profile you can follow the parent's suggestions, or you might want to use the "new-style locations": /etc/make.profile
ln -s /usr/portage/profiles/default-x86-2004.2 /etc/make.profile
Thats it. The profile tells portage which packages to use. The only difference between gentoo releases are the new profile, and the GRP binary packages are rebuilt. Simple huh?
# rm /etc/make.profile
# ln -s /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/2004.2 /etc/make.profile
where x86 should be replaced with your current architecture: alpha, amd64, arm, ppc, sparc, or x86, although not all of those architectures have 2004.2 profiles
Of added interest appears to be the /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/2004.2/gcc 34 profile, which automatically updates gcc to 3.4.1 on the next emerge -aDvu world. -
Re:Torrents
They still haven't linked to the torrents yet in the announcement.
The tlm-project torrents only appear to include the stock livecd's and the generic (x86 and i686) package GRP/package CDs, NOT the P4 and athlon-xp package CDs. Since the announcement specifically states that the platform specific CDs are not available from the normal mirrors, only bittorrent, you need the following
torrent mirror
Which has all the arch-specific livecds, and all the arch package CD's, include P3,P4,athlon-xp, amd64, ppc etc etc. If you don't trust the md5's on the torrent mirror, there are most of them in here, while the release notes give the details of the PGP signing.
HTH! -
Re:Torrents
They still haven't linked to the torrents yet in the announcement.
The tlm-project torrents only appear to include the stock livecd's and the generic (x86 and i686) package GRP/package CDs, NOT the P4 and athlon-xp package CDs. Since the announcement specifically states that the platform specific CDs are not available from the normal mirrors, only bittorrent, you need the following
torrent mirror
Which has all the arch-specific livecds, and all the arch package CD's, include P3,P4,athlon-xp, amd64, ppc etc etc. If you don't trust the md5's on the torrent mirror, there are most of them in here, while the release notes give the details of the PGP signing.
HTH! -
Re:Girls?? Where!?
Probably shouldn't feed, but here's one:
Brandy's forum account and homepage: She was one of the forum administrators, but I'm not sure if that's still the case...
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Re:It does matter...
There are some configuration-type things that don't get updated by an 'emerge -uD world'. Sure, all of your packages are kept up to date, but for instance, Gentoo has moved from XFree86 to X.org. That change won't be made until you move from 1.4 to 2004.x. I once saw directions on how to make the switch, but lost track before I could do anything about it.
I believe you are referring to the Gentoo Upgrading Guide. It tells you how to point your
/etc/make.profile to the 2004.2 version, which indeed uses X.org instead of XFree86 by default. -
Re:It does matter...
Take at look at the instructions on the Gentoo forums, here:
They were originally crafted when Xfree was deprecated on AMD64, but they apply to all architectures, and they're designed to give you a minimum of downtime. (And provide a just in case backup as well.)