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Gentoo have a Gnome/KDE liveCD for PowerPC.

I agree with this. My most pleasant Linux experience so far has been gentoo. Although - the fact that it is CLI will scare off Joe Sixpack - or even mildly techy users. I know there are projects underway to make a GUI - mostly for things like etc-update (which can be a bit nasty). Adding a small(OPTIONAL!) gui front end to emerge,etcat and those essential tools could pull many more users.

Once agains hats off - I have not had to play wack-a-mole rpm style for a long time now.
Gentoo forums really are the friendliest linux forums. They are on par with Lugnet.

{insert gentoo zealotry post here}

Several open source projects are gaining steam: propolice for stack protection inserted by the compiler PaX for address space randomization, page executable protection, etc . It doesn't matter how sloppy the userspace code is - if the stack is comprimised, the process is killed before it can do damage. It won't catch every possible comprimise but it's a great start. Check out the Hardened Gentoo Project for a working implementation.

[snip]MEPIS Linux 2003 is desktop Linux the way you want it.[/snip]

Thats why I use Gentoo. Gentoo gives you total control, like no other linux distro.

gentoo e-build available here

A topic in the gentoo forums tells of how to make an ebuild that will get the cvs source, patch it, build it and install it in your gentoo box.

Hey, at least Red Hat has a built in packaging system now. I ran Red Hat 7 back when it was the shit to have, but I was always frustrated that there was no integrated packaging system. I changed over to gentoo about 2 years ago, and I have always had trouble getting my Wind0ze buddys to make the switch to linux, because I like to show them my setup, and they tend to like it, especially because of the portage packaging sytem. When I give them Red Hat CD's, and they install it on their system at home, however, I get basic questions like "So, how exactly do i update/install software." The problem is, gentoo and debian are too hard for most users to run/maintain, but Red Hat kinda sucks.

With Fedora, however, the packaging system is coherent and comprehensive (That "Red Hat Network" system just didn't cut it before). A transition to apt is definatly a step in the right direction for the Red Hat desktop. Fedora is brand new though, so of course it still has it's quirks. With a little bit of time, I think that Fedora can become a solid desktop distribution.

Make a Gentoo ebuild script - often trivially done by copying a file for an older one - and put it in /usr/local/portage.

Cricket doesn't work for Apple, his their bitch. My advice is to escape to a better place.

Emerge your way to freedom

None of the things you mentioned are going to be problems for John Q. Everyman for the following reasons:

1. Gateway is installing SuSE Linux on servers, not desktops and laptops.

2. Unless Grandma runs her own big-iron Web server or Folding@Home project, she'll never see SuSE Linux on a Gateway PC (at least not yet).

3. Linux IS fantastic for geeks. And it's fantastic for John Q. Everyman as well. Distros like Mandrake 9.2 make it easy for Linux newbies to get into the market; a Linux newbie does not start with Gentoo!

4. You don't need to recompile the kernel to watch DivX movies. You just need a new version of mplayer.

All in all, sir, this is a very articulate, well-written, yet very trollish post.

Just a few notes here:

1. Mozilla is actually quite fast, especially compared to the competition (in essence, Internet Explorer). The monolithic Internet suite approach definitely does introduce some unnecessary overhead, but as Mozilla moves towards a modular model based on Firebird and Thunderbird, you can expect this to be remedied. The only major desktop browser that's left to consider, really, is Safari. Well, as it happens, Safari is based on KHTML, and the advantages of the very lightweight and speedy Safari are all present on Linux with Konqueror (which, incidentally, doesn't have the additional CPU/GPU overhead associated with Apple's Quartz framework).

2. X is not a bad framework. Features like network-transparency and the like are, in fact, VERY important in environments where thin-clients/servers are common. XFree86, in particular, is being forked every which way at the moment which, while at first glance seems like trouble, will probably wind up introducing some very interesting innovations, both in terms of processing and memory-efficiency and eye-candy. In the meantime, XFree86 provides a compatible, stable base that is more than fast enough on modern desktop hardware.

3. KDE and GNOME are not one-size-fits-all desktop environments. They are designed to be flexible and extensible and, as such, they tend to be more complex than, say, XP's Luna or the Mac's Aqua (incidentally, Luna absolutely sucks eggs as far as speed and bloat go, and while Aqua is admirably efficient given all that it does, one still must consider all that it does in terms of rendering iCandy). This flexibility is not necessarily a weekness, as it allows a desktop to be tuned for a particular user's needs, ranging from thin-client type apps to my dual-display K desktop littered with SuperKaramba themes. Anyway, what I'm getting at is that feature-set vs. performance is not a huge issue on modern desktops, and in places where it is (like embedded systems) Linux has very sleek, slim alternatives that still manage to be pretty and functional (like, for example, Opie). There are also desktop alternatives available for the KDE and GNOME-hating, thanks again to the modularity of X keeping the window manager and the display server seperate, ranging from GNUStep to Ratpoison.

4. You've got a point about OpenOffice, I must admit. It's not necessarily a bad system, but then again, it's not really anything more than an Office clone. A free and very portable Office clone, but an Office clone nonetheless. One of the good things about Linux desktop software that I mentioned above is that it doesn't try to recreate Windows or Mac with precision, but rather provide a very flexible framework that can be adapted to the user's needs. OpenOffice definitely doesn't fit in with this philosophy, but I'm sure that there are other projects going on out there working to redefine how we think of Office suites. And if not, somebody ought to get to work on that. ;)

5. Just a side note, Fedora isn't exactly the examplar of Linux's efficiency and performance. Go Gentoo!

What all the above boils down to is this: Does Linux have a way to go before becoming the perfect desktop OS? Certainly, and work is ongoing towards this goal. However, we must also ask another question: Is Linux, at this moment in time, a better choice than Windows or Mac for many users and businesses? Absolutely, and it's looking better every day.

I've used Mandrake for about 4 years. I was a member of Mandrake Club, and I really thought Mandrake was easy to use and a very complete distribution. I still would recommend it to anyone who wants to get started with Linux. However, after spending so much time with Mandrake and KDE, I found that I liked GNOME better. To me, KDE vs. GNOME is essentially quantity vs. quality, and I'll stick with quality. Most of the KDE apps are just plain inferior to their GNOME counterparts. Konqueror vs. Galeon? Puh-lease. (OK, so Galeon isn't really part of GNOME. Picky, picky.)

Mandrake is committed to KDE. They don't cripple GNOME, but I felt I'd be better off with a more pure GNOME desktop. (I was right. I'm much happier having switched.)

I thought about Ximian and Red Hat, but I went with Gentoo after reading about the distribution and the philosophy behind it (I would paraphrase it as "power and simplicity"). I had tried to install Gentoo before, but the compile time wore me out. Now, there is a Gentoo Reference Platform, which contains binaries for a fairly complete installation. I personally chose not to go that way, because my computer is a 2.2 GH P4, which is basically fast enough to bring the compile time down to something reasonable (GNOME compiles overnight - I didn't check exactly how long it took). But, the GRP seems like a very reasonable way to quickly get Gentoo on your system.

I've been very pleased to find that I'm learning much more about the system, by reading the excellent Gentoo docs, and by asking the occasional question at the #gentoo IRC channel. I am not a Linux guru, by any means, but I'm not a newbie either. Somewhere in the middle.

I'm amazed at the breadth of software available. Yeah, it's a bit of a hassle installing from source, rather than from binary packages, but I feel like I'm closer to the metal. And once I get all my favorite stuff installed, I can update them all to the latest, just by typing "emerge --update world". I can easily download and try the latest unstable kernel, if I want, or get the latest Mozilla Firebird, to see if a bug has been addressed. Or I can shoot back to an older version which is known to work. I guess I could have used Cooker with Mandrake, in order to experience the bleeding edge, but I never gave that a try. Somehow, I doubt it is as simple and easy to use as the Gentoo portage system.

In fact, I would compare Mandrake vs. Gentoo in the same way I compared KDE vs. GNOME. Mandrake is "quantity" of tools, but Gentoo is "quality" of tools. There seems to be a great deal of thought behind the Gentoo architecture and tools. They're typically command line - no GUI whiz bang stuff, but they just work.

The Mandrake GUI config stuff didn't always work properly anyway, and I'm finding that I enjoy editing the config files and learning how to make my system work the way I want it to.

If you're a newbie, stick with Mandrake, but if you're a little more advanced, and you can afford to initially spend some time learning and problem-solving, I highly recommend Gentoo.

The #Gentoo IRC channel almost always has tons of people on it, who are more than happy to help a new user figure out what's going on with their system. Try to find your answer in the user docs first, though, so you don't waste someone else's time.

I've used Mandrake for about 4 years. I was a member of Mandrake Club, and I really thought Mandrake was easy to use and a very complete distribution. I still would recommend it to anyone who wants to get started with Linux. However, after spending so much time with Mandrake and KDE, I found that I liked GNOME better. To me, KDE vs. GNOME is essentially quantity vs. quality, and I'll stick with quality. Most of the KDE apps are just plain inferior to their GNOME counterparts. Konqueror vs. Galeon? Puh-lease. (OK, so Galeon isn't really part of GNOME. Picky, picky.)

Mandrake is committed to KDE. They don't cripple GNOME, but I felt I'd be better off with a more pure GNOME desktop. (I was right. I'm much happier having switched.)

I thought about Ximian and Red Hat, but I went with Gentoo after reading about the distribution and the philosophy behind it (I would paraphrase it as "power and simplicity"). I had tried to install Gentoo before, but the compile time wore me out. Now, there is a Gentoo Reference Platform, which contains binaries for a fairly complete installation. I personally chose not to go that way, because my computer is a 2.2 GH P4, which is basically fast enough to bring the compile time down to something reasonable (GNOME compiles overnight - I didn't check exactly how long it took). But, the GRP seems like a very reasonable way to quickly get Gentoo on your system.

I've been very pleased to find that I'm learning much more about the system, by reading the excellent Gentoo docs, and by asking the occasional question at the #gentoo IRC channel. I am not a Linux guru, by any means, but I'm not a newbie either. Somewhere in the middle.

I'm amazed at the breadth of software available. Yeah, it's a bit of a hassle installing from source, rather than from binary packages, but I feel like I'm closer to the metal. And once I get all my favorite stuff installed, I can update them all to the latest, just by typing "emerge --update world". I can easily download and try the latest unstable kernel, if I want, or get the latest Mozilla Firebird, to see if a bug has been addressed. Or I can shoot back to an older version which is known to work. I guess I could have used Cooker with Mandrake, in order to experience the bleeding edge, but I never gave that a try. Somehow, I doubt it is as simple and easy to use as the Gentoo portage system.

In fact, I would compare Mandrake vs. Gentoo in the same way I compared KDE vs. GNOME. Mandrake is "quantity" of tools, but Gentoo is "quality" of tools. There seems to be a great deal of thought behind the Gentoo architecture and tools. They're typically command line - no GUI whiz bang stuff, but they just work.

The Mandrake GUI config stuff didn't always work properly anyway, and I'm finding that I enjoy editing the config files and learning how to make my system work the way I want it to.

If you're a newbie, stick with Mandrake, but if you're a little more advanced, and you can afford to initially spend some time learning and problem-solving, I highly recommend Gentoo.

The #Gentoo IRC channel almost always has tons of people on it, who are more than happy to help a new user figure out what's going on with their system. Try to find your answer in the user docs first, though, so you don't waste someone else's time.

I've used Mandrake for about 4 years. I was a member of Mandrake Club, and I really thought Mandrake was easy to use and a very complete distribution. I still would recommend it to anyone who wants to get started with Linux. However, after spending so much time with Mandrake and KDE, I found that I liked GNOME better. To me, KDE vs. GNOME is essentially quantity vs. quality, and I'll stick with quality. Most of the KDE apps are just plain inferior to their GNOME counterparts. Konqueror vs. Galeon? Puh-lease. (OK, so Galeon isn't really part of GNOME. Picky, picky.)

Mandrake is committed to KDE. They don't cripple GNOME, but I felt I'd be better off with a more pure GNOME desktop. (I was right. I'm much happier having switched.)

I thought about Ximian and Red Hat, but I went with Gentoo after reading about the distribution and the philosophy behind it (I would paraphrase it as "power and simplicity"). I had tried to install Gentoo before, but the compile time wore me out. Now, there is a Gentoo Reference Platform, which contains binaries for a fairly complete installation. I personally chose not to go that way, because my computer is a 2.2 GH P4, which is basically fast enough to bring the compile time down to something reasonable (GNOME compiles overnight - I didn't check exactly how long it took). But, the GRP seems like a very reasonable way to quickly get Gentoo on your system.

I've been very pleased to find that I'm learning much more about the system, by reading the excellent Gentoo docs, and by asking the occasional question at the #gentoo IRC channel. I am not a Linux guru, by any means, but I'm not a newbie either. Somewhere in the middle.

I'm amazed at the breadth of software available. Yeah, it's a bit of a hassle installing from source, rather than from binary packages, but I feel like I'm closer to the metal. And once I get all my favorite stuff installed, I can update them all to the latest, just by typing "emerge --update world". I can easily download and try the latest unstable kernel, if I want, or get the latest Mozilla Firebird, to see if a bug has been addressed. Or I can shoot back to an older version which is known to work. I guess I could have used Cooker with Mandrake, in order to experience the bleeding edge, but I never gave that a try. Somehow, I doubt it is as simple and easy to use as the Gentoo portage system.

In fact, I would compare Mandrake vs. Gentoo in the same way I compared KDE vs. GNOME. Mandrake is "quantity" of tools, but Gentoo is "quality" of tools. There seems to be a great deal of thought behind the Gentoo architecture and tools. They're typically command line - no GUI whiz bang stuff, but they just work.

The Mandrake GUI config stuff didn't always work properly anyway, and I'm finding that I enjoy editing the config files and learning how to make my system work the way I want it to.

If you're a newbie, stick with Mandrake, but if you're a little more advanced, and you can afford to initially spend some time learning and problem-solving, I highly recommend Gentoo.

The #Gentoo IRC channel almost always has tons of people on it, who are more than happy to help a new user figure out what's going on with their system. Try to find your answer in the user docs first, though, so you don't waste someone else's time.

Not everyone wants to update their ENTIRE OS all of the time. Why should people take a handful of hours to most of a day every 6 months or so in order to migrate to the latest release of their chosen Operating System? They shouldn't have to do that. They should be able to install it and update the pieces they need to and then when and IF, they have the time, then they can upgrade to the latest release. There should also be no major issues with doing so...

or still buy a Mac G5, make a new partition, and use it for Gentoo Linux for G5. I will do this, when I have some money *snif*

... I mean how many distributions are perfect, the first time around. RHN is available up until April, which gives them a bit of time to sot things out, if they're expecting a big migration from RH to fedora...

What?

Fedora is a rehash of RH9. Really, most people are equating Fedora with being RH10. That is hardly 'first time around'.

What is laughable is that Eugenia still had those old RPM dependency hell issues. You would have thought they would have been solved by now, or that somebody would have created a decent desktop based on a base distribution with decent package management tools.

However, for a long running system, LFS is way too time consuming. I switched to Gentoo after a while, with all the customization, at a fraction of the time cost.

I maintain several labs. We currently use Partimage off a gentoo live cd. This works great for windows 2000 machines in our labs. Previously I used ghost with no problems on windows NT, but 2000 might be different. I always used it from a "boot" disk not from a running system.

Andrew

http://www.gentoo.org

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The version on the live CD is a patched parted. Others have used it succesfully, I have not tried it, I can't until the new live CD is released, the 10.2.8 update broke the current live CD.

Thereare a few mentions of it on the forums

Here
here
and here

I know that's not what you wanted to hear (first hand experience), but it's better than a sharp stick in the eye ;-)

The version on the live CD is a patched parted. Others have used it succesfully, I have not tried it, I can't until the new live CD is released, the 10.2.8 update broke the current live CD.

Thereare a few mentions of it on the forums

Here
here
and here

I know that's not what you wanted to hear (first hand experience), but it's better than a sharp stick in the eye ;-)

The version on the live CD is a patched parted. Others have used it succesfully, I have not tried it, I can't until the new live CD is released, the 10.2.8 update broke the current live CD.

Thereare a few mentions of it on the forums

Here
here
and here

I know that's not what you wanted to hear (first hand experience), but it's better than a sharp stick in the eye ;-)

The version on the live CD is a patched parted. Others have used it succesfully, I have not tried it, I can't until the new live CD is released, the 10.2.8 update broke the current live CD.

Thereare a few mentions of it on the forums

Here
here
and here

I know that's not what you wanted to hear (first hand experience), but it's better than a sharp stick in the eye ;-)

What other distribution would tolerate this behavior?

You can use parted which is on the Gentoo Live CD and probably others..

From the FAQ: ...Before installing Gentoo, startup with the Mac OS X Install CD. Use the Disk Utility to partition the drive in your machine into two or three partitions. Alternatively use parted from the recent LiveCD, that can handle HFS and HFS+ partitions. Furthermore it is able to shrink a partition so you don't need to delete your whole disk...

The downside to this is that the current Live CD may not work on your box due to a frimware issue, but a fixed iso should be available soon.

Apart from the non-GPL'd status, I'm not aware of big problems with ethernet drivers for nForce boards - as noted elsewhere in this thread they seem to be functionally supported out of the box.

But getting the sound components of the nForce board to work is altogether more challenging - the nVidia drivers are very basic and don't always work. Various patches exist (e.g. this entry from the Gentoo Discussion Forum) and some people report installing SBLive type cards to get around the problem.

Apparently one problem that is preventing GPL'd audio drivers is that nVidia won't release the technical specifications of the nForce audio components...

Apart from the non-GPL'd status, I'm not aware of big problems with ethernet drivers for nForce boards - as noted elsewhere in this thread they seem to be functionally supported out of the box.

But getting the sound components of the nForce board to work is altogether more challenging - the nVidia drivers are very basic and don't always work. Various patches exist (e.g. this entry from the Gentoo Discussion Forum) and some people report installing SBLive type cards to get around the problem.

Apparently one problem that is preventing GPL'd audio drivers is that nVidia won't release the technical specifications of the nForce audio components...

Note: A complete Gentoo Linux 2-CD set contains the Gentoo Reference Platform, which is a complete pre-built Gentoo Linux system including GNOME, KDE, Mozilla and OpenOffice. The Gentoo Reference Platform ("GRP") was created to allow rapid Gentoo Linux package installations for those who need this capability. The "compile from source" functionality, which is the cornerstone of Gentoo Linux, will always be a fully-supported installation option as well. The purpose of the GRP is to make Gentoo Linux more convenient for some users, without impacting Gentoo's powerful "compile from source" installation process in any way.

Sick of gentoo zealots throwing plugs in completely unrelated topics? Me too!

Yes, but have you seen the system requirements for the Matrix?

Do I even need to say anything? Gentoo.

Bye, bye Red Hat the distro - thanks for the memories. I guess your time had to come as a conventional, any one will want to use, let's me borrow the CDs from a friend, find it available at any hosting ISP distro.

P.S. I picked up a copy of Slackware back in '95 and used it until I was able to get our PHBs to look at Linux in '99, which was Red Hat. I am now using Gentoo at home, yet I am slowly moving my systems at work and on the net to Gentoo - thanks Gentoo!

I guess a lot of people will be sad to say the least that RedHat is pulling support for RH8.0 already. Stopping support for 9.0 seems fast, but then again so was the release.

As this (AFAIK) also means that RH will no longer maintain the updates/errata RPMs that kept my system up-to-date, I guess a lot of of people will start looking for alternatives. I guess I will be changing my system over to Gentoo ;)
All things aside, changing strategies might be a necessity to keep business up, but stopping support on a distribution so soon is just ridiculous. Even Win98 still lasted years and years:)

...it's not like there aren't any other Linux distros.

Can anyone recommend a good non-symantec antivirus and software firewall?

There you go.

This move will really help to advance the speed with which debian can move forward, insofar as its "licensing"( if you can call it that ) goals are concerned.

What's really interesting here is that this moves them a little closer to the way the Gentoo people operate. Take a look at Their Social Contract for comparison purposes.

I did some DOA (that's Dept. of Agriculture - a rather fitting acronym given the state of their IT affairs) work on a similar project. The only difference was we used Gentoo's emerge system instead. The result? User's could tailor a document to their liking (Word document vs. PDF, style sheet prference, english or spanish, etc) by using the appropriate USE flags. Need that new report? Just do emerge myreport. Easy enough even for Windows users :)

While I have used Knoppix, where I needed to recover data I've used SystemRescueCD, and as my main drive has just died (the second one this month!) I'll be using it again shortly. It's based on the Gentoo LiveCD, is less than half the size of Knoppix, and contains all the utilities you need for rescuing and repartitioning (Partimage, parted/QtParted, fdisk, sfdisk, dd_rescue, plus all the usual stuff). Granted, it's not as friendly as Knoppix for the uninitiated as it just dumps you at a prompt after auto-detecting everything, but in any case you really have to know what you're doing to recover a system in this way so I don't think that's an issue.

I've written a small article in the Gentoo Docs forum about recovering my system using the CD.

And for the really paranoid, one could encrypt everything on the hard drive, including swap. This thread tells you how.

You can build a Gentoo system completely optimized for AMD64 with help from this page:

http://dev.gentoo.org/~brad_mssw/amd64-tech-notes. html

T-Minus 10 second and counting til someone starts bashing Gentoo and recommending Debian.

I'd like to ask Mandrake users: does it hurt to hit the street? And does the street hit back?

Jokes aside, but if all those release bumps still hurt you by pushing for re-installation, please consider the distro with which you will be always up to date without any hitting the street.

If you want optimized, install gentoo instead. Contrary to popular belief, you don't actually have to compile everything. If you download the CDs for your architecture, you'll find that the included binary packages are compiled for your architecture alerady.

I remember around 1995 I went to a Melbourne Computer Expo. Every stall I went to had a pair of these JUSTer Active 75 80W speakers. They sounded awesome, and at just AU$80, I got myself a pair.

Nowdays, my system consists of:
Gentoo GNU/Linux 1.4
AMD Athlon XP 2100+
CoolerMaster Aero 7+ HSF
ASUS A7N8XDeluxe (nVidia nForce 2 based)
Kingston ValueRAM 1GB (2x256MB & 1x512MB DDR-333 dual-channeled)
PowerColor Evil Master II Multi-Display Edition (ATi Radeon 8500)
Maxtor 60GB 2MB 7400RPM IDE
Seagate 120GB 8MB 7400RPM SATA (x2 in RAID)
Hitachi CML175SXW B 17" Multimedia TFT LCD
Pioneer 12X DVD
ASUS 52x24x52x
Enermax expensive as all hell PSU
Enermax FS-710 Aluminum case
Netgear WG311 802.11g network card
Logitech Cordless iTouch keyboard
Logitech TrackMan Marble Wheel
JUSTer Active 75 80W

As you can see, my speakers and mouse are the odd ones out - both aren't made anymore but I'll never give them up (unless I get a bigger apartment which allows for a 5.1 speaker setup).

Why dont you check out php PHPgroupware

I used it a year ago and was pretty happy with it. You will need an apache web server (or similar) with php and mysql to use it.

Good thing for you that all those things are free. If you are looking for a system to host it on, why not try gentoo

There is a lot of FUD going on about linux, and some of it is NOT TRUE ANYMORE! Don't believe it! If you use a "31337" distro like Debian or Slackware, then of course youre going to see the problems, but civilised ditrobutions don't!

There is NO NEED to edit raw text files! All major distros have decent configuation utillities these days!
There is NO DEPEDANCY hell! That only happens if you try to install a broken package using the raw rpm utillity! If you install it the proper way, EG with yast, Rpmdrake, Synaptic, redcarpet then no problems!

Hardware dectection works flawlessly. If your having a problem your hardware is either broken or your using an out of date kernel (ie debian). Many major hardware manufacturers are working with kernel development team to get support for their hardware in linux, and the ones that don't are getting reverse engineered pretty quickly!

X, OpenOffice, Nautilus are no longer SLOW! They have been optimized and they work at high speeds!

The RTFM culture is dying, most distrobutions come with printed easy to understand documentation, and there are lots of quality forums and howtos out there! The Gentoo ones are a good example, as wellls as gnome-support, KDE forum, and others!

The fact that ists hard to use isn't true either! Gnome and KDE are both freindly, you want hard? try Ratpoison or TWM! Linux is ready for joe, and all thats left now is to debunk the fud and get joe to try it! So get a knoppix iso, and start showing HOW easy linux is to all the joes and grandmas you know!

Linux is i386 only. It is not portable to other platforms, like MIPS, Alpha, PPC, etc. Windows NT is a modern, portable 32 bit operating system.

Linux does not support SMP. The Linux hackers are just kids with too much time on their hands, and they will never be able to afford serious hardware.

Linux is obsolete. The monolithic kernel is a joke, and will never scale past the level of a play-thing. In a couple of years, most people will run the GNU Hurd on 64 bit Sparc CPUs.

I can probably come up with some that are still true, but right now I'm too tired. Oh yes: The Gentoo Linux Installation Manual is sure to create some Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt among those who want to look into Linux as a replacement for their pre-installed Windows.

I think that the "make menuconfig" system should better explain about kernel modules. I had a deuce of a time figuring out what key to press to get the LNE100TX ethernet card enabled, but once I found out, it was just one key.