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Now if only they would find Osama...Gee, what a big win for the US. Found an aging chess player who was on the run for an act of civil disobedience.
If he were Martha Stewart, he would have gotten a slap on the wrist (and would have still appealed). As it is, I bet he was on some FBI shit list.
By the way, this same sort of thing happened recently with the IEEE and other professional organizations with respect to embargoed axis of evil (TM) countries. They reasoned that if you edit a paper submitted from Iran, you are providing a service to that country. A couple professional societies gave the Treasury Department the finger. In April they finally recently fixed that part of the law so that the organizations are in the clear again.
Government shouldn't block chess or science... Or crypto while I'm at it.
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Re:Actually, you're completely wrong
You sound oh so very high minded about standards and integrity, but you reveal your trollish prejudices.
For the purposes of our discussion, the only Unix standard that matters is POSIX compliance. Hmmmm, can you think of any POSIX compliant OSes that don't have the Unix (TM) on them?
'POSIX' is also a registered trademark, and must also be certified by and licensed from IEEE/TOG. Moreover, the IEEE charge for the POSIX standards, where as TOG freely distributed the Single UNIX Specification. This is one reason the SUS has largely superceded POSIX, especially for open-source developers.
In any case, I doubt Mac OS X is certified as POSIX compliant either. Apple don't seem to be very keen on certifying their systems with TOG.
TOG's problem is that Apple is only one of many who might want to challenge the Unix trademark's viability in court. So the trademark might not fall this year, as you say, but there's always next time.
That isn't true. Apple call their system 'UNIX', but more ethical firms, e.g. Linux firms like Red Hat, SuSE/Novell, etc., don't make that claim, and the commercial UNIXes (e.g. Sun Solaris, IBM AIX, IBM Z/OS, HP Tru64, HP-UX) have been duly certified.
The only system besides OS X I know of that has used 'UNIX' without certification is FreeBSD. However, the FreeBSD website was changed recently, and no longer claims FreeBSD is 'an advanced UNIX operating system', but claims instead it is simply 'an advanced operating system'. Moreover, the FreeBSD organisation have been working with TOG to achieve verifiable compliance with POSIX (with UNIX certification a likely follow-on). Just last month, the FreeBSD organisation received approval from IEEE/TOG to use material from the IEEE/TOG POSIX/Base standards. This is the sort of thing Apple would be doing if they really cared about standards and UNIX.
I'm not sure why you paint me as being cynical just because I have an inkling of how things work.
It's very simple, really. Apple want to claim their OS is UNIX (even using a UNIX logo similar to the TOG UNIX logo), but won't run the tests and pay the small licensing fee (US$100k) to ensure it's compatible with UNIX. They clearly don't give a toss about standards, unlike, for example, IBM, Sun and HP.
The idea that destroying standards for trivial sums of money and minor convenience is just 'the way things work' is an attitude that I consider quite cynical. I still have hope that Apple will come round (by choice or by the force of the law) and submit OS X for certification. If Apple destroy UNIX, they will be despised by many (including me).
Or maybe you do know how things work, but you astroturf for SCO/MS.
This is actually one reason I'm carrying on with this thread. A lot of people who despise SCO (with good reason) seem to think TOG and the UNIX trademark have something to do with SCO.
The reality is the UNIX trademark and The Open Group have absolutely nothing to do with SCO or SCO's legal claims, and never have. SCO claim to own copyrights to a particular set of source code called UnixWare, which they purchased from Novell, who in turn purchased it from AT&T. (SCO also claim their code is in Linux, but comparisons have shown this is extremely unlikely.)
Like all systems that have been certified to comply with the UNIX standard, SCO UnixWare (originally called UNIX System V) can be called 'UNIX', but it has no special position with respect to the UNIX trademark, which is solely owned by The Open Group. Moreover, SCO's licensed use of the 'UNIX' name would be revoked if UnixWare ceased to comply with the standard (the same applies to any UNIX vendor).
Microsoft have nothing to do with The Open Group either, and in fact their UNIX subsystem (Interix) for the NT kernel was certified by Softway Systems in 1988, before it (Interix) was acquired by Microsoft. -
Nice ground-based telescope with adaptive optics
Not taking sides in the discussion whether we have good enough ground-based telescopes or not, an interesting telescope exists, having adaptive optics to compensate for air tremor. More in this article from IEEE spectrum.
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full text standards
Unfortunately 802.11i isn't listed here yet, but here is a link to the full text of the other 802.11 standards. (Free, no registration required)
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Re:awesome
bzzz
802.11a running at 5.7 GHz is not compatible with either b or g, as they run at 2.4 GHz.
802.11b runs at 11 megabits per second, whereas both 802.11a and 802.11g both run at 54 megabits per second. since 802.11b, and 802.11g both run at the same frequency, they are mostly compatible, but once you get an 802.11b node on a g network, everything slows down to (near) 802.11b speeds for all the g nodes.
802.11a never really took off because it didn't work with existing infrastructure, but since b and g can interoperate, 802.11g is the future as 802.11b quickly becomes an also-ran.
802.11i is the new security protocol that is implemented ontop of 802.11g and presumably a and b. sadly, i'm not familiar with 802.11x so i can't comment on it.
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Re:Key ManagementHere's links with some more info on 802.11i, also called WPA2.
This PDF http://www.wi-fi.org/opensection/pdf/whitepaper_w
i -fi_security4-29-03.pdf from the WIFI alliance talks about WPA2 near the very end of the document. According to this, WPA2 will use the same 802.1x authentication current used by WPA in enterprise deployments or the PSK mode currently used in home deployments of WPA.This PDF http://jcbserver.uwaterloo.ca/cs436/handouts/misc
e llaneous/Intel_Wireless_3.pdf has some interesting technical details about how the AES encryption in 802.11i works.Unfortunately, it looks like the actual 802.11i specification isn't publically available yet. According to this page http://standards.ieee.org/getieee802/ IEEE 802 drafts are publicly available 6 months after they are first published in PDF. I'm assuming this means that the 802.11i standard will be publicly available in 6 months?
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Re:Sue a Standard?
But it's really common for an industry standard to contain patented technologies. For example, many emerging communications standards are employing Turbo codes. Now these were invented quite recently, by some French researchers, and they perform incredibly well. But in order to implement these standards, you (or your supplier, or their supplier) have to pay royalties.
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Re:Why are they moving to Linux?
The POSIX environment is far better suited to the server market than Windows, and Linux seems to be the popular choice their.
I don't want to invalidate your point, but you have a complete misunderstanding of POSIX. Windows (from 2000 onwards) is in fact POSIX certified, whilst Linux is NOT. Check here: Microsoft compatibility. Linux is POSIX compatible yes, but AFAIK has not been POSIX certified except for a few small realtime Linuxes, like Linux-ft
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Sony is Covering All Bets
Sony is also developing ultra-flat screen TVs based on carbon nanotube technology that are supposed to be thinner (3/4 inch) and substantially cheaper than (3-inch thick) plasma flat screen TVs. These will be in the 50-inch range. I can't imagine wanting a bigger television in a house, let alone a projector hanging from the ceiling. But apparently Sony thinks there's a home market for humongous projector systems too.
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Re:End of moores law?
Is this the end of moores law, at least in the form of CPU speeds doubling every 18 months? There are essentially two CPUs, I doubt each of them will get 2x faster the next 1.5 years
:)There have been quite a few posts pointing out that Moore's law actually refers to exponential growth in transistor density rather than speed.
The posters are technically correct, but the term Moore's law has come to encompass any processor-related metric that changes at an exponential pace, including processor performance, clock rate, and power consumption. Of course, these metrics are directly related to transistor size and density, so it makes sense that they have changed exponentially.
For those with access to IEEE articles, Gordon Moore (Intel founder, who Moore's law is named after) wrote an interesting paper called No exponential is forever: but "Forever" can be delayed!.
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Nigeria has a GINORMOUS internet link going unused
Check out this article from the Feb 2004 IEEE Spectrum.
Sadly, Nigeria has had a direct link to a huge amount of bandwidth since 2001 that is pretty much completely unused, thanks to the rampant corruption in the area.
And here is direct link to the pretty map of the optical cable ringing Africa. -
Nigeria has a GINORMOUS internet link going unused
Check out this article from the Feb 2004 IEEE Spectrum.
Sadly, Nigeria has had a direct link to a huge amount of bandwidth since 2001 that is pretty much completely unused, thanks to the rampant corruption in the area.
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Re:I am all for this
See previous slashdot discussions of "Open Source Biology And Its Impact on Industry" (slashdot discussion) from 2001, and for how fast costs are falling and skills are spreading "The Pace and Proliferation of Biological Technologies" (slashdot discussion) from 2003.
I am, by the way, posting this from the Synthetic Biology 1.0 Meeting at MIT. Open source is under discussion, as are the risks. -
One of the past participants is described asStraight from the article:
Whittaker has a charismatic, take-no-prisoners style
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IEEE Spectrum article
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Re:A necessary function, very badly run at present
Remember, the only reason the public Internet exists is because the FCC, over the *strenuous* objections of the Bell System, overrode restrictions on "sharing" of leased lines.
This is absurd, trying to justify the FCC's existence by pointing out that at one point it did not yield to industry pressure and rolled back some of its own regulations. Hooray, we're all glad they did the right thing in that case, but who do you think made those absurd rules restricting "sharing" of leased lines in the first place? Who do you think enforced the Bells' monopoly? According to this website, up until 1968:
Backed by Federal Communications Commission (FCC) regulations, AT&T did not allow users to attach devices to connect their telephones to two-way radios or computers and it did its best to block competition into the long-distance telephone market.
So the FCC regulations, and the FCC being "in bed" with AT&T, were the root causes of the problem in the first place! It was absurd that those regulations existed in the first place, and without them the Bells would have had no say and no one would have needed to wait for the FCC to repeal its rules to start building the internet.
This is like saying, after the mob halves the amount that it extorts from you for "protection" money: "well without the mob, we'd still be paying *twice* as much for 'protection'!"
And to all those people who think we just need to "clean house" at the FCC and put good people in charge, please wake up: the FCC has been in bed with industry for years and will continue to do so for as long as it exists, because joe cell phone or internet user doesn't hire lobbyists.
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Re:Is a PHD so great?
The Phd: an exercise in self-aggrandizing behavior with little application to the real world.
That's such a sweeping generalization that it's awfully easy to take a few potshots at it. Since this is Slashdot, I assume that computers and the internet play a big role in your life. Well, the packet switching technology and ARPAnet that made it all possible owes a lot to a bunch of PhDs at UCLA led by Leonard Kleinrock. Like being able to chat with your friends on your cell phone? Ever heard of Andy Viterbi, who went off to found Qualcomm by hiring many of the top researchers (yes, lots of them were PhDs) and developing the CDMA technology now used in North America? And of course, there's Claude Shannon, the so-called "father of modern communications". Just a few of the more "practical" PhD guys you may have heard of.In the event you actually research or do something worthwhile your expertise is basically a very tiny narrow slice of the pie in your discipline in which you possess astonishing depth, and you are likely no more knowledgeable about the rest of your field than a masters candidate.
Again, I'd have to disagree here. A bachelors is great for giving you a good grounding in the background material you'll need in your field. A masters degree is primarily about teaching you how to do independent thinking, which is going to be important once you start moving beyond the basics and into new innovation. At this point, you'll have started developing the skill set, but won't have the experience. A PhD is where you really get to know your field well (much better than a masters student, by the time you're done), and understand what's been done and what's left to do. It's also about learning to develop relationships with other top people in the field, both in industry and academia, and learning about more than just the technical aspects of your area.I've worked with a number of Phd candidates in computer science, chemical engineering, history, and life sciences, and then EXPECT (yes, I said expect) one of two things to happen when they graduate:
What's wrong with aiming high? I'd hate to think anyone would start any endeavor expecting not to do well.1. A company offers them quite a bit of money to do the research that *they* love
2. *poof* Tenure track faculty positionin reality now, its usually
You're generalizing again. Just like in every other line of work, whether you get a "good" job or not when you enter the real world depends largely on the individual. I've certainly known people who ended up in exactly the situations you describe. On the other hand, there are also many others who are doing very well. Our lab's also got a graduate this year who's starting tenure-track at USC, and another who's tenure-track at Stanford. One of my officemates just turned down a 100K EE job (a 2-body problem), and another had several offers in the 90-100k range as well.1. Teach as an adjunct
2. Try to convince private industry that you're okay taking that 60k a year position as a chemical engineer.. I'm not overqualified, HONEST!If you're good at what you do, there'll be good jobs for you no matter what path in life you choose. If you're a lazy slackabout, then you're screwed no matter what. There's no "right" or "wrong" answer about whether a PhD is a good choice -- it's about whether it's a good choice for YOU. This is the real reason why people tell you to do something you love -- chances are, you'll be enthusiastic about it and do it well, and success will follow naturally.
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Re:Mobile-Fi vs. WiMax citywide POP's
The IEEE hasn't even started writing the 802.20 spec, so Nextel can't be using 802.20.
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Re:Patents.. UCK
RSA, DH and SHA-1 are not patented (anymore).
For RSA the US patent has expired (Sep 2000). The expiration of the patent was one of the drivers which made RSA appear in more products than ever.
For DH the US patent has expired (Apr 1997).
SHA-1 is not patent-encumbered.
Of course, those were US patents. If anything is not patented in your country, a US patent doesn't really touch you.
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Re:Oh my sweet Jesus...
Wrong. Good programmers understand how their environment treats numerical values. In Perl(and several other languages) 3 and 3.0 are treated identically. There is nothing wrong with comparing them. Also, based on your comments in this thread it seems clear that you don't know what you are talking about. Go read this, and the other reading material referenced here. If you don't want to, or can't, read and understand that material then please quit spouting off and spreading your misconceptions to others.
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Re:Why you probably won't see it in laptopsJust to back up your argument, according to Benini et al. in "Policy Optimization for Dynamic Power Management," the breakdown of power consumption by subsystem is:
- 36% display
- 21% digital circuitry (CPU, RAM, etc.)
- 18% Hard disks
- 18% Networking
- 7% Non-critical components
For those exceptionally motivated with IEEE membership, search IEEE Xplore for "predictive shutdown," "dynamic voltage scaling," or "dynamic power management."
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nice document on OLED displays
Doing a quick search on google I found this
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Re:Attempting to model the real world on this scal
may be this would help...
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Neat!
I find that this technology actually makes a lot of sense in a business environment, specially if coupled with some sort of retina light beam scanning technology. I can envision a meeting where businessmen, while negotiating, could access relevant information about the person they were talking to on the fly, including important corporate information.
There are, however, two major showstoppers. One is the matter of privacy. I may not be interested that everyone I gaze at gets an instant picture of me without my authorization, specially because I'm not all that pretty
;). Second, in societies and cultures where eye contact is just not important or is considered as intrusive an menacing, such as in Japan, the system would just not be functionalBut still... great for nerds who can't really tell if a woman is giving them the eye... perhaps with a computer telling them so they'll be more confident
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Looks like it may be fraught with patents
Look at the Task Group's web page and note the security submissions from Certicom. In case you don't know, these are the mob who have extensive patents on elliptic-curve crypto. Guess what they are trying to push into the standard? Yet another standards body corrupted. Hopefully sanity will prevail and someone will force them to include RSA as another option.
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Looks like it may be fraught with patents
Look at the Task Group's web page and note the security submissions from Certicom. In case you don't know, these are the mob who have extensive patents on elliptic-curve crypto. Guess what they are trying to push into the standard? Yet another standards body corrupted. Hopefully sanity will prevail and someone will force them to include RSA as another option.
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Re:Nanotech is already here...
erm, don't you mean "microtechnology" - i.e. electromechanical devices on the scale of microns? Not sure where nanotechnology is used in a hard drive... correct me if I'm wrong.
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Re:IEEE position
I am disgusted by the IEEE position, by the way, and am considering renouncing membership of that organization whose vision I have been aligned with for years.
When you start drawing protective borders you risk much. Where do you draw the border? around a country? Around a state? Around a county? City? -
Re:Submarine patents?
Nope, that's incorrect. A patent, if granted, is valid from the date it is first applied for. This date is called the filing date
He's not incorrect, man. That's how it is now, but until recently the approval date was when they started counting. Read here about previous exploits of this now closed loophole.
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Re:Interference?
If anyone cares and has access to back issues, this appears to be the issue (Sep 1996) I was thinking about.
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Interference?
There was an article in IEEE Spectrum about this a few years ago. I would post the results, but (1) I forget what the article said, and (b) I am lazy.
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Re:Port to MIDI interface
With d-midi
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Spectrum
I found another article in this months IEEE Spectrum to be of more interest. It sounds like science fiction stuff to me, not all what I am used to reading in Spectrum. Anyone ever heard of "electric rainmaking" before?
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Maybe it's the Sake
but what does Gilbert Godfrey have to do with wooden speakers?
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Re:Running distributed.net?Wow, you told us your cell's IMEI and your laptop's MAC. How about your car's numberplate?
He spent so much money on the car that he couldn't afford a laptop with a real NIC:
Here are the results of your search through the public section of the IEEE Standards OUI database report for 0030BD:
00-30-BD (hex) BELKIN COMPONENTS
0030BD (base 16) BELKIN COMPONENTS
501 WEST WALNUT STREET
COMPTON CA 90220
UNITED STATESNow, my fellow geeks, I ask you: Does this man really deserve our help? I mean seriously -- if he spends more money on his car then his laptop what does that say of his priorities? And what kind of Geek would leave his poor laptop in the car to be stolen?
A real geek would have been driving a Dodge Neon with a laptop that cost so much the value of the car increased by a factor of five when the laptop was being transported. Somehow I doubt his laptop with the cheap Belkin NIC or chipset cost anywhere near this much. Real geeks have Cisco chipsets soldered onto the motherboard of their laptops!
He deserves what he gets!
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MAC adress lookup-howto
If you've got ethereal installed, look at file
/usr/share/ethereal/manuf and search for the first three bytes of the MAC address:
00:30:BD BelkinComp # BELKIN COMPONENTS
This file is a merging of two sources:
The IEEE public OUI listing:
http://standards.ieee.org/regauth/oui/index.shtml
http://standards.ieee.org/regauth/oui/oui.txt ...and...
Michael Patton's "Ethernet Codes Master Page":
http://www.cavebear.com/CaveBear/Ethernet/
ftp://ftp.cavebear.com/pub/Ethernet.txt
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The MAC address...
shows up as a Belkin device using this search.00-30-BD (hex) BELKIN COMPONENTS
0030BD (base 16) BELKIN COMPONENTS
501 WEST WALNUT STREET
COMPTON CA 90220
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Re:why we need space-explorationThere are also economic arguments toward going into space. One which could have a significant effect is mining in space. Although best done by automation due to long travel times, having heavy metals available in free space would allow more activities in space by humans. Even simple iron or steel would have many uses. The large amount of fissionables available from asteroid mining would certainly be a useful power source. Although just having water would also be necessary.
Humans need to get into space simply because Earth is not a closed system. We can't keep all our eggs in this basket at the bottom of a gravity well. The solar system affects us and has more resources than are available on Earth.
Incidentally: " 03/26/04 - SpaceDev Seeks Top Spacecraft Program Managers and Engineers"
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Re:Oh this is silly
Hm. Apple PowerMac G5:
* HyperTransport
* PCI-X / AGP
* DDR SDRAM
* S-ATA
* Gigabit Ethernet
* IEEE 1394b a.k.a. Firewire 800
* USB 2.0
So, tell me, which of these, which will be the only interfaces that you can sanely use, is proprietary?
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Re:...internet access is highest among females 35-
quote from "American Pie 2"
milf milf milf milf milf milf.....
In Chile(in developement country) things are picking up as well. in a survey published in Spectrum they rated world internet access and Chile was rated 43(number of computers, broadband acces to the home, education amongst population to acctually use it etc) in the world and the closest i could remember was like 66.
We can get very cheap brodaband from cable, adsl and Wireless, from many companies. Sweeden was number 1 in the world and the US was like 11 or 12. -
Interesting article
I RTFLA and the attached pdf . First, let me say that the PDF sums it up, you can avoid the article. Second, I would like to know, according to this pdf, how did the system rate a +8 on a scale of -7 to +7?
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Lucky guys!
Clever AND good looking !
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Re:But will it run Linux
And a Beowulf Cluster?not as stupid either, since Spectrum Magazine Had a report also where some guys put 73 PS2's together and using their graphics processor chip achieved supercomputing proccessor power.
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Space rods?
Plans include firing hypervelocity rods from space to targets on the ground
Fuhk 'em rods! Let's throw the entire ISS down!
Just load up Canadarm with Eric Gagne software and WhAm!
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Re:Does software count?
The rendering software for ROTK is Pixar's Renderman. Ed Catmull, Rob Cook, and Lauren Carpenter received an oscar for it in 2001. According to the site, "Pixar's RenderMan(R) was used in 35 of the last 39 films nominated for a Best Visual Effects Oscar(R) by the Academy of Motion Pictures Arts & Sciences (2004)." An interesting feature article is in the IEEE Spectrum
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Re:Article Biased against CRTs
In the final table, the author chose not to highlight the winning cells if they happened to be for CRT solutions. CRT is a winner in 5 of the 12 catagories: Contrast Ratio, Brightness, Longevity, Burn-In, and Viewing Angle. More than any other solution.
I know that Direct View (and Rear Projection) CRT's days are numbered, but as of today, no other solution provides the same picture quality, at any cost. It will be at least 3 more years before videophiles start making the switch to something better. I'm guessing the winners will be DLP and Carbon Nanotube Field Emission Displays.
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Astronaut is both part of the Worst and Best!
Those lists are very suggestive and really depend on the point of view and interest of the writer. Just take a look and you will see that astronaut is both part of the Worst and Best!
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Article Index - 10 Jobs
The linked article is actually a story about 9 different people with 9 different jobs, each leading to a separate article.
Actually, like the article says, they really do talk about 10 jobs. They just don't link to the last one in that summary page. Here's the index page:
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Re:i call bullshit
IEEE's the Institute had an article that is definite cotrast to the messages provided b the editors. Salaries for EEs on the Rise, Unemployment Too states that the salary has increased though there are fewer jobs around. The linkd article also states that salary increased for tech types.
The other articles specifically address other aspects of the economy. According to the first article, the increase in salaries has slowed, but is still increasing (keep in mind the charts reflect growth after inflation is removed). The second article talk about low-income earners. People with a college degree or significant technical skills usually are not in that category. The median income in the US for 2002 is $42,409. Notice that of the computer fields, "Information Science" isthe only one with a STARTING salary below the national median (and then it is less than 1% lower).
Not much here... just a troll... move along...
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U.S. Companies are helping
Here is an article about how the Chinese have been blocking content from their citizens. What's interesting is how some American companies, like Yahoo, are cooperating to do business with them.