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it's not the rape thats funny. it's samir's unfounded fear of it, and his delivery that's so funny.

It's not like he got off scott free. He's still got the conviction on his record, and is looking at a $250,000 fine. Oh, and two years' probation, in case he's ever in a position to perjure himself in a Federal investigation again.

I speak this in the same ironic voice that Verbal Kint used in The Usual Suspects : "Well, I do have the weapons charge; I'm looking at six whole months' hard time."

According to the President's statement, the 30-month sentence was too harsh for a first-time offender with a long history of public service. So, instead of reducing it to something he felt more reasonable, he commuted it altogether. The President didn't contest the conviction; he 'respect[ed] the jury's verdict"; he even commended prosecutor Fitzgerald for carrying out his duties professionally. He simply felt that, ah well, Scooter doesn't really need to be punished for covering-up a breach of national security. He's rewarding the fall-guy.

But, you know what, in the long run, I'm OK with this. Sure, it's a miscarriage of Justice. Such things happen often enough. Unlike most miscarriages of justice, however, this one won't be forgotten so quickly. It is an extremely revealing demonstration for everyone but the most die-hard Bush fan that this administration feels it is above the law. The deeper that message can be driven into the American People, the better. If the President believes that this will go over well with the populace, or even within the leadership of his own party, he has seriously miscalculated.

In the grim darkness of the far future, there is only war...

After all, stupid people breed LESS, right?

Actually I reckon they breed more. But the kids probably dont do very well with DNA from both a brother and sister combined.

I agree with you, too, that they (stupid people) breed more. The thing is, even children of extreme cases (you chose the example of brother and sister having children) with severe mental and/or physical problems, do not have trouble procreating (given they have the occasion to :)

Everyone knows that alien motherships run Mac OS. The fact that it's almost Independence Day should have reminded you of that fact.

A bit off topic perhaps, but Code 46 is a very good science fiction movie from 2003 that deals with (among other things) a society where the government has computer simulation software advanced enough to predict many things about the future, and the effects that has on its citizens' freedom and attitudes.

I highly recommend it.

We already have, pre 9/11 even:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0103639/

Missing tag: thirteenthfloor (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0139809/)

http://imdb.com/title/tt0387808/

So it begins. I think we already know how this will end.

When he made Harsh Realm?

Maybe instead of finishing their presentation at the last minute, they went to white castle.

It has one serious side effect, it temporarily turns you into a rabbi.

We need MEGAMAID!

Didn't they do something like this in MadMax Beyond Thunderdome?
 
  http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0089530/ But with pigs?

Ooo... mindwarp was correct, then!

Leave the rock alone! Haven't they seen Quatermass and the Pit?

Agreed! I have a co-worker that believes that prisons should not exist....because all forms of punishment should be death penalties. He acted like no one innocent every gets convicted...

and we are in Houston where The Thin Blue Line documentary was filmed. The wiki of the film basically describes how the police just wanted a conviction to make it look like they were being tough on the crime. The film is one of the reasons Randall Adams got out of death row....

The question is how many other people are in jail innocent...who didn't have any dna involved in the crime and don't have a documentary helping them....

I know of one....my dad. He was convicted for molesting a 3 year old girl. There was no physical proof. No DNA. My dad was supposedly alone with the child for 5 minutes. It doesn't matter that the girl's 12 year old brother was a sex offender or that her gay divorced dad came over every Wednesday to his ex's to give the girl a bath.

My dad got 30 years....

We've exhausted all the appeals...because appeals have to be errors in law....so now we have to wait for the kids to grow up and hope that an 18 year old will be able to know what did or did not happen when they were 3. Even then we have to hope the court agrees...you don't get out of jail just because a witness changes her story. So we are waiting...until 2013...the first chance to get my dad out...he'll be 72.

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that's the spirit! for maximum irony we need a fairly anti-science group who opposes the idea that temperatures change, then have the opposition group change tactics in order to be considered more scientific. hillarity ensues when someone comes forward and says the laws of thermodynamics "are more like guidelines than actual laws." :-) :-)

DVD-A can never be successful, and the reason is quite simple - the acronym has been used already, and many of us can never forgethow.

The Great Race [1965] I know, I know. It dates you a little to remember quotes from old movies. But what a cast: Jack Lemmon, Tony Curtis, Natalie Wood, Peter Falk...

The 1908 New York To Paris race was grand adventure in its own right:

SOMETHING HAD changed during the running: Timid people had come to realize that a car itself was a road, in dreams, and that it might lead anywhere at all. The Longest Race

Does - anyone - here find it surprising that it was a Take-Two trailer that got the AO rating?

If you can answer that question - truthfully - with a "Yes," congratulations. There is a place for you at Rockstar. For how long is another question.

The Internet isn't owned by the ESRB. But neither is it owned by the gamer-geek.

If YouTube wants no part in distributing AO rated adds for console gaming, tough luck. They are not obliged to let you post anything.

Remember Snakes On A Plane? Cost $32 million to produce. Grossed $62 million world-wide. The Geek got the movie produced. But the Geek couldn't deliver the audience to make it profitable.

The same equation works in gaming.

Where is this evidence? I haven't seen any evidence of any supreme diety. Nor for any soul or spirit.

How about "life"?

I don't see "life" as any evidence of a supreme diety, I see it as evidence of evolution.

Going back before we were complex creatures with billions of cells, it had to start somewhere.

Chaos or chance. Given there's billions of billions of stars, I find it hard to believe that only Earth has life. Darn, I wish I could recall how Jodie Foster put it in "Contact".

Simply I have yet to see any evidence of a supreme diety, soul, or spirit. I used to believe but an accident that I almost died from ended my beliefs. Now I have a hard tyme believing anything other than that if there is a supreme diety it must be sadistic.

I was recently watching The Ascent of Man (BBC, 1973). When discussing evolution, Dr. Bronowski says something to the effect of, "Of course, today, almost nobody denies evolution." All I could think was, "How far backwards have we gone that in 1973 the issue was pretty much considered a fact by the general population and now..." It's scary, really.

Actually, from what I understand, Johnny Mnemonic was floated as a test balloon for eventually doing Neuromancer, but when that bombed, so did the plans for Neuromancer. Recently, they've been talking about it again with a tentative 2009 release date. Somehow, I doubt it'll actually get made. And if it is made, I bet they'll screw up the feel. It should make Blade Runner feel like a Pixar film if done correctly. And I guess they won't be able to call it the matrix anymore. I would actually prefer they not do this movie at all unless they find the perfect director for it. I suspect they'll end up doing it on the cheap if at all.

That makes that little kid from Temple of Doom... 36?!?

Blade Runner is such a pale shadow of the book that I can't stand the movie. It really seems more an excuse to just make a movie with a big star and not actually hire a writer to develop a story or adapt the book well.

And it does it poorly enough that it isn't even campy like Starship Troopers (not Dick I know) or Screamers. PK Dick seems to just attract crap interpretations, as evidenced by his IMDB page.

'd go so far as to say that the original Star Wars series (4-6) will stand up better than the newer series because the limitations of the day forced them to use more "real" models, rather than quickly dated CG.

John Carpenter's "The Thing" holds up surprisingly well today, too, because it used models and makeup for nearly everything. The few short bits of stop-motion or reverse-motion stand out very clearly, especially to modern eyes used to CG stuff, but the rest looks much more realistic.

there is no more perfect science fiction movie to me

the problem with most science fiction movies is that the sampling of the philosophical implications of their subject matter is too shallow (or they are outright fantasy riffs without any attempt at philosophisizing). you don't get that with a good sci fi book. a good sci fi book gets you to really think and wonder. a good science fiction movie just usually entertains you... sometimes entertains you REALLY well, but the thinking part isn't usually there

but blade runner really got to me. especially the scenes at the end, with deckard and batty, the movie collapsed all of the science fiction trappings into meaning: the essential human struggles with life and death and what is the whole damn point anyway? blade runner really sticks with you. every time i watch it i think of something new

i really don't know of a better example of how deeply a 2 hour scifi movie can really get to you in a deep way

well maybe contact, but contact comes second in my mind to blade runner

The Mars Underground http://imdb.com/title/tt0437325/.

Believe it or not, the answer is in this movie:The Prestige (2006)
http://imdb.com/title/tt0482571/plotsummary

The movie ends up revolving around a trick is called "the moving man" where the magician disappears and reappears 100ft away in an instant. The trick uses a device created by Tesla. If I say more, I'll spoil the movie for you.

But if you come along and *insert* ads on my pages and thus benefit from my work, I have no choice but to sue. That is copyright violation. Period. They are costing the content provider money.

There was actually a case in Sweden last year where the directors Claes Eirksson and Vilgot Sjöman successfully sued Sweden's largest commercial TV station TV4 after it had shown two of their films with interruptions for commercials. In the ruling the court concluded that the interruptions were an infringement of the moral right of the creators, since the station didn't have an express permission to insert them. I imagine a similar argument could be made for web sites.

But if you come along and *insert* ads on my pages and thus benefit from my work, I have no choice but to sue. That is copyright violation. Period. They are costing the content provider money.

There was actually a case in Sweden last year where the directors Claes Eirksson and Vilgot Sjöman successfully sued Sweden's largest commercial TV station TV4 after it had shown two of their films with interruptions for commercials. In the ruling the court concluded that the interruptions were an infringement of the moral right of the creators, since the station didn't have an express permission to insert them. I imagine a similar argument could be made for web sites.

Actually, right now the UK is having a major problem with people sneaking in.

Hey, I think I saw that movie!

Yes, but they'll have to think in Russian.

Have you seen the movie fortress?

"this is an unauthorized thought process"

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0106950/

Only ROFL and (maybe) LOL are acronyms, which are abbreviations pronounced as words. The others are simply abbreviations.

No, I blame the Seatopians. They've done this before.

No, I blame the Seatopians. They've done this before.

What're the alternatives?

• Lake is still there, but invisible
• Attack of the Giant Sponge
• Lake frozen, stolen by Ice Pirates
• Ice-Nine
• Initial report of lake was a hoax -- it was never really there in the first place

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0086373/

### So why EXACTLY did MH2 get rated AO?

No idea on the details, but AO is not just for sex. Right from the ESRB page:

"""Titles rated AO (Adults Only) have content that should only be played by persons 18 years and older. Titles in this category may include prolonged scenes of intense violence and/or graphic sexual content and nudity."""

### Where is the big outcry about all these people conspiring to be my 'morality police'?

There recently has been a movie about the issue, This Film is Not Yet Rated, so it is not like it doesn't bother any one, its just that people have gotten used to it.

### And the whole console makers doing the whole 'morality police' thing is really blowing it out of proportion.

Console makers not even allowing AO titles in the first place is a pretty big issue if you ask me. If it would be just Walmart blocking the sales, that would be a huge annoyance, but if the console makers are doing it, it means that it doesn't just get harder, but that its flat out impossible to make a game for that platform. There is still the PC, so its not yet the end of the world, but we are getting there, censorship imposed by big cooperations who have a monopoly in their area can be just as effective as a state driven one, except that you can fight the later one with your constitution, while you are pretty defenseless against the monopoly one.

And beside AO doesn't mean just porn or overuse of violence, just a little sex or nudity is enough, the same kind of sex that you get to see in every other random hollywood movie, but those don't get NC-17, games on the other side with the same content get AO, see Fahrenheit for a good example.

The real issue with all this rating stuff isn't so much if Manhunt2 gets released or not, the real issue are all those games that don't even get created in the first place due to the rating system making them impossible to sell.

I have a decently large DVD collection. Shortly before subscribing to netflix, I considered picking up a DVD burner and copying all of my Blockbuster rentals (it's the only rental shop near me). Shortly after subscribing, I found that I was no longer interested in owning DVDs. Why? I can have it tomorrow if I want to see it again.

Yeah, rent it. I prefer to own not rent. I too have a lot of movies, both on dvd and tape. I pay for a movie once and it's mine no matter how many tymes I watch it, and I've watched a number of movies a number of tymes. For instance "Hellfighters" I watch maybe every other month, first the tape I got of it and now the dvd. Another movie I like to watch is "To Catch A Thief" which I've watched maybe half a dozen tymes in the past year.

I have a decently large DVD collection. Shortly before subscribing to netflix, I considered picking up a DVD burner and copying all of my Blockbuster rentals (it's the only rental shop near me). Shortly after subscribing, I found that I was no longer interested in owning DVDs. Why? I can have it tomorrow if I want to see it again.

Yeah, rent it. I prefer to own not rent. I too have a lot of movies, both on dvd and tape. I pay for a movie once and it's mine no matter how many tymes I watch it, and I've watched a number of movies a number of tymes. For instance "Hellfighters" I watch maybe every other month, first the tape I got of it and now the dvd. Another movie I like to watch is "To Catch A Thief" which I've watched maybe half a dozen tymes in the past year.

What's the difference between a game that allows you to cut into someone's groin and one that allows you to shoot someone in the face?

Killing someone by sawing into their groin is worse than killing someone by shooting them into the face.

This smacks of the stuff they talked about "This Film Is Not Yet Rated" in relation to Hollywood. Self-censorship that ends up growing and becoming a lot worse.

The US MPAA film rating system is setup with R and NC-17. R means that people under 17 need someone to be there (an escort), while NC-17 is supposed to stop anyone under 17 from being in the theatre (which is a joke and useless, since you can just watch it on DVD in the comfort of your own home within 6-8 months). An NC-17 rating no longer allows a movie to be an adult movie for adults; it means you can't be shown on a number of screens, and you won't be allowed to advertise to your potential audience. It's a kiss of death done by the MPAA board to censor what the US people see.

The ESRB M and AO ratings are both like R because any adult can purchase the game for people under 17 and 18, respectively, and be well within the law. Yet here we have console makers saying that while they allow people to have games on their consoles, they don't allow AO games on their consoles. This is outright ludicrous. Microsoft and Nintendo both had some fairly explicit nudity on the Xbox and Gamecube with BMX XXX (the Sony PS2 version was censored and did not have the stripper videos uncensored like the other two versions). There has also been plenty of explicit violence (Manhunt is a good example; you sneak up and brutally murder people!).

To say that they won't carry AO is just a way to start enforcing other people's views on the views of people who are actually interested in purchasing the games mentioned.

A further thought: is it really wise to control so much what children see and do? In the UK, it's very legal for a 16-year-old to drink. France as well. A normal, moderate consumption with a meal is not looked down on. Their percentage of binge drinking of young adults is nothing compared to the US. It seems that by keeping these things unaccessible for a longer period, people don't build up the understanding needed to deal with these situations when they are old enough to be in them. Imagine if the first time you were allowed to play Doom or Duke Nukem 3D was when you were 18 or 19 -- how would that change your outlook on those games?

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Captured Alien: Die. Die.