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I googled windows priority command line and the 6th result was titled: "smallbusiness.itworld.com - Windows Tip: Launching a low priority ..."

Here's the link

Executive Summary:
It turns out there are several solutions to this problem. A simple approach is to use the start command to launch each job with Low priority as follows:
start /low /b job5.exe -i input.dat

Wow, look at the replies... I love how aroused everyone gets over the prospect of a possible government conspiracy. I think the government really does have its priorities, but monitoring 10 million computers to find out what porn sites people like to visit isn't one of them.

From the article: "This vulnerability could impact government systems, private industry and critical infrastructure, as well as individual and home users"

I think that statement is pretty much an ordered list of government priorities when urging these security measures. Why is the government getting involved? They're looking out for their own interests. The average government worker is likely sitting on a windows workstation right now, surfing the internet with IE, creating a presentation in Powerpoint, running some calculations in Excel, or typing a document in Word... and they probably don't even have the administrative rights to run their own updates, so they sit around waiting for some IT grunt to get off his lazy ass and do it for them.

Even as we speak, I'm sitting at a Windows work station without version management and without admin rights. I have to use the company standards of IE and Office because I can't install Mozilla and OpenOffice. I don't even know if our IT department is aware that they need to run any patches. I haven't seen them do it since I've started working here. And what's worse, I'm working for a government contractor which is always making a lot of fuss about security!

Which brings me to my next point. The government is also looking out for industry and commerce. I'm sure you've noticed the U.S. economy isn't what it used to be. The last thing this country needs is a cyber attack wreaking havoc among businesses and putting even less trust in online commerce than there already is.

Shouldn't we be suspicious that the government has never openly declared critical Linux updates an imperative?

Actually, the DHS has funded open source security auditing. Its true, they have never made it an imperative critical update, but you have to take into account the users and usages of open-source products. If you've installed and/or administrated Linux, its very likely you have enough know-how that you don't need a government warning to get you to stay on top of security patches.

Windows, however, is the most widely used operating system, especially for people who don't have the first clue about security or administration. How many Windows users out there use Administrator as their standard account? People like that need to be warned about the importance of updates.

While I'm not going to deny the possibility that they do have more up their sleeves, I think the past couple years have made me less likely to don the tin foil. With the terrorist attacks, resulting WMD wars, Gee Dubya elections, and blatant fear-tactics, I've really begun to realize that "government intelligence" truly is an oxymoron.

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Amazon has been profitable since 2003 and they're still profitable.

Disclaimer: I work for Amazon. This is all public information.

Guess I don't know. That would be my bad because I don't use Windows at home and at work my Windows computer is Virtual PC in a Mac. It seemed to me that before Windows 2000 there was some support in Windows Media Player for the ripping and that with Windows 2000 (and ostensibly due to the mp3 patents) it was taken away. Trying to research the issue through Google, I found, in an abstract, the suggestion that Win2000 would rip at a very low-fi 32kbps and that rang a bell and made me believe that I recollected un-musical low quality as not capable. I did find this link Windows XP to add ripping via add-ins from 7/16/01. At the end of the article, some of you will be amused at how the source press release trumpeted recent deals made between Microsoft and Sony regarding WMA and DRM.

If Windows Media Player today allows for ripping of unrestricted mp3s than I apologize for diparaging Microsoft on this particular point. Though, looking at the articles, even though mp3s were spreading like wildfire in the late 90s, and were clearly what the customers wanted, Microsoft tried to use its consumer dominance and its deep pockets to swim against the tide and try to get people to move their music to the wma format. In 2001, they made a point about getting the fidelity in half the file size, which I suppose should have been a resonant message to all us dial-up users. And yet, it didn't seem to make much of a difference.

Oh, plus a hand from Taiwan's Quanta for devoting substantial resources to the OLPC project. Taiwan's Quanta teams up with MIT for R&D project http://www.itworld.com/Comp/1290/050411quantamit/ Quanta Gets Behind $100 Laptop http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/laptops/quanta-gets-beh ind-100-laptop-143304.php

Isn't is danerous to have an internet connection on a plane?

no.

Yes, you can do this, it's actually firly common:

http://www.itworld.com/Comp/1369/LWD000606S390/

I thought the problem was old, tube-based hardware in the TRACONS and elsewhere always going blinky. Software would be the least of their worries.

That has definately not been my experience from Apple. Apple warrents their products for at least one year (you can buy AppleCare to get more milage). When my expensive display broke, Apple overnighted me a new display, allowing me to return the old one within a week or two at no charge.

I custom ordered a PowerMac G5 and I have had absolutely no problems with Apple's service, even after two repairs. (The broken parts were custom-configured)

Also, if you complain about Apple's service, you should complain about every other company's service. Apple scored the highest in a study done over all the major computer manufacturers. I do not know where you get your stories, but they you are citing an unknown third party who may in turn be a third party- not a good way to back up your claims with concrete facts. Unless you have first-hand experience with Apple Support it is best to stay out of the ring.

I'd say the monolithic kernel of Netware *is* a little arcane. Novell has seen the light and is moving to put all their services on top of a Linux kernel.

They are winning on the technical front, they just couldn't market water to a dying man in the desert.

The only other links you provide are to Steve Jackson bitching about Konfabulator vs Dashboard, and an Inside Mac article which outlines some 1st-gen G5 iMac problems but then ends with:

"I may sound like I would never recommend the iMac G5 to friends or family. Not true. I find the iMac G5 to be a remarkable computer... Though I've seen many first-generation iMac G5's break down on numerous fronts, I haven't witnessed nearly as many second-generation iMac G5's break down on the same scale... there are many, many Mac users out there that haven't had a single problem since handing down the cash for their very own iMac G5.

Your first link was somewhat interesting, many more links in there to typical computer-news grist for the mill - but you've catalogued seemingly every large bug that has occured thoughout OS X's lifetime. That seems disingenuous. We know nothing is bug-free. Don't make me go find a Windows buglist of all time (or substitute any *nix distro's buglist - much less onerous, but still as long as your arm).

Did you notice the 'user rating' on your last link? I am a graphic designer and I can tell you I've never had a single issue with OS X's font management. Not one.

Sadly, Apple isn't learning the right lesson because their sales (thanks largely due to the iPod) are doing well and the Mac Faithful seem willing to live with the flaws just because "it's a Mac".

Don't be sad - we're all pretty happy.

Apple's going to fuck up from time to time, like any other company. Sometimes they fuck up big. This photocasting thing, its probably a bug. There are much better things to pick on. The DRM in their new CPU, for example.

Did you know....

1. 80% of all votes in America are counted by only two companies: Diebold and ES&S.

http://www.onlinejournal.com/evoting/042804Landes/ 042804landes.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diebold

2. There is no federal agency with regulatory authority or oversight of the U.S. voting machine industry.

http://www.commondreams.org/views02/0916-04.htm
http://www.onlinejournal.com/evoting/042804Landes/ 042804landes.html

3. The vice-president of Diebold and the president of ES&S are brothers.

http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/private_comp any.html
http://www.onlinejournal.com/evoting/042804Landes/ 042804landes.html

4. The chairman and CEO of Diebold is a major Bush campaign organizer and donor who wrote in 2003 that he was "committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president next year."

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/07/28/sunday/m ain632436.shtml
http://www.wishtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=1647886

5. Republican Senator Chuck Hagel used to be chairman of ES&S. He became Senator based on votes counted by ES&S machines.

http://www.motherjones.com/commentary/columns/2004 /03/03_200.html
http://www.onlinejournal.com/evoting/031004Fitraki s/031004fitrakis.html

6. Republican Senator Chuck Hagel, long-connected with the Bush family, was recently caught lying about his ownership of ES&S by the Senate Ethics Committee.

http://www.blackboxvoting.com/modules.php?name=New s&file=article&sid=26
http://www.hillnews.com/news/012903/hagel.aspx
http://www.onlisareinsradar.com/archives/000896.ph p

7. Senator Chuck Hagel was on a short list of George W. Bush's vice-presidential candidates.

http://www.businessweek.com/2000/00_28/b3689130.ht m
http://theindependent.com/stories/052700/new_hagel 27.html

8. ES&S is the largest voting machine manufacturer in the U.S. and counts almost 60% of all U.S. votes.

http://www.essvote.com/HTML/about/about.html
http://www.onlinejournal.com/evoting/042804Landes/ 042804landes.html

9. Diebold's new touch screen voting machines have no paper trail of any votes. In other words, there is no way to verify that the data coming out of the machine is the same as what was legitimately put in by voters.

http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0225-05.htm
http://www.itworld.com/Tech/2987/041020evotestates /pfindex.html

The above links are incorrect—the "&cid=" part should be removed. As a service, here they are as clickable links:

www.tgdaily.com/2005/10/26/canon_fuelcell/

www.itworld.com/Comp/1774/051026canonfuelcell/

Along these lines, beyond hacks used by microprocessors today, there's been work on how best to multi-task, and also related work on how to best spend any idle time. Bob Metcalfe and Eric Horvitz have worked on this:

http://www.itworld.com/AppDev/1161/IWD000925opmetc alfe_cto/

http://www.computerworld.com/printthis/2002/0,4814 ,67156,00.html

http://research.microsoft.com/~horvitz/ccprinciple s.htm

Summary here or check Slashdot, its probably been covered here before.

Infringing on proprietary technology? They do considerable cross-licensing ,which by this news report states that "their deal since 1976" will be continuing until 2011. And what are these anti-competitive practices you speak of? Sounds like someones fishing....

There is also the growing instances of state-sponsored computer cracking whereby poorer nations (particularly the axis-of-evil states) seek to leverage the power of attacking information infrastructures instead of the physical infrastructure.

Certainly it is a concern that 'axis of evil' countries may attempt to attack computer systems, however isn't it a little premature to say "growing instances"? Do you have any citations of -one- attack sponsored by a foriegn government?

Given our current administrations interest in increasing law enforcement powers, and their apparent
willingness to give out intelligence information for political reasons, I think there is a good chance we would have heard about any verified attacks by 'rogue states'

It may be useful to look closer to home for computer security threats. The FBI has be known to use keylogging software. I wouldn't be suprised if more clandestine arms of 'legitimate' governments were using the same technology in a more broad way.

The picture shows two men whose best days (and their companies best days) are behind them. Both are still making money, but the sparkle has long tarnished. Suns' future is an open question. The markets really hammered them a few years ago (and it appears that the high point of 'dead-cat-bounce' is where they are now). Officially, Microsoft is still in denial, although their very own Security and Exchange Commission (SEC) filing from 2002 shows that their business model is under pressure (and the pressure in '02 was much less than in '05, and the competitive pressure is likely to increase). Take a look here: http://www.itworld.com/Man/2685/030205msopensource / if you are questioning what I write. Obviously there are other systems competing with them, but the others don't have the ability to disrupt their business as deeply (and permanently).

Microsoft Corp.'s newly released operating system designed to power small computing devices has found a home in a new slim computer terminal, or thin client, from Wyse Technology Inc.

The terminal was unveiled Wednesday in conjunction with Microsoft's release of its Windows XP operating system for embedded devices. Wyse said it expects to be the first hardware maker to offer a thin client device with XP installed. The company said it will begin shipping its new machine, commonly used to run cash registers and bar-code scanning applications, in the first quarter of 2002.

Full article from November 2001.

This is a perfect opportunity to demonstrate opposition to patents that never should have been issued in the first place, and for attempting to step on the small businesses with these frivolous patents. Show the companies who use patents such as these to stifle competition and to step on small businesses and add their own tax to consumers' wallets that you will exact a penalty on them if they continue such despicable behavior. The best way to do this is to stop buying Smuckers peanut butter and jelly, and to let them know about it.

While I don't normally buy Smuckers peanut butter, I do buy their jellies. Mostly grape but sometimes other flavors/fruits. Smuckers is now banned in my house. I won't be purchasing anymore Smuckers Jellies, and won't try Smuckers Peanut Butter in the future even if on sale.

I'm going to let them know via email if they have contact info available, but I'm also going to start linking their name with the patent lawsuit action they started, to the news story, back to their page. Slashdot readers should do the same. A good Googlebomb will get their attention, so that when someone searches for Smuckers on Google (many less technical users use search engines to locate sites such as smuckers.com), some of the top ten hits will contain info on the patent lawsuit.

May not be a huge hit on their bottom line, but consumers swearing off their brand for years to come will get their attention. And more importantly, if the Googlebomb/linking is done sufficiently, then a news organization doing a story on patents may cover the issue or at least mention it, bringing more negative publicity to the company.

You have to show the companies that their are negative consequences to using frivolous patent, not just advantages. And you have to bring this to the attention to the general public. This is a perfect example of something the general public, something that soccer moms can understand. If they understand why patenting peanut butter and jelly sandwiches are bad, then it may help them to understand why software patents are bad.

So for Smuckers Peanut Butter & Jelly patents, whether on "crimping" or on a different patent for crustless peanut butter & jelly, show the companies that you have a long memory and that they will be taking a financial hit no matter how small because you will no longer purchase their products due to their use of frivolous patents.

With the soccer moms able to grasp the situation with frivolous patents thanks to PB & J sandwiches they make for their kids' school lunches, maybe enough Senators and Congressmen will show a little vulnerability on this issue during the next election and decide to go after soccer moms' votes, along with the greater population of tech end users as compared to tech company suits.

The last thing directors of a public traded company want is publicity surrounding a boycott of their company. If you are serious about opposing software patents, this PB & J issue is a perfect opportunity to put your shopping and eating habits where your mouths are, and to attempt to make a difference. All it takes is the numbers of users who view slashdot, and a little publicity. Do it today. Avoid purchasing Smuckers products and let them know why. And then Googlebomb the links from the news on the patent lawsuits to the companies. frivolous patents

The article from MSNBC mentioned in this story is very light on details. Thanks to Google News, here are some more useful articles about CETS, the Child Exploitation Tracking System:

• itbusiness.ca: Canadian police roll out child porn tracking system
• internetnews.com: Microsoft System Tracks Pedophiles
• itworld.com: Microsoft creates tools to crack child porn cases

These articles mention that CETS is based on MS SQL Server (for the database) and some bits of MS SharePoint (for the web portal). Also, the system uses .NET and web services (SOAP/XML) for exchanging data so it should be possible to integrate this with non-Microsoft systems (in theory).

What is not mentioned in any of the articles is whether the system is really open-source, as claimed in the headline of this Slashdot story and the related MSNBC article. The only statements that I found about this said that Microsoft Canada will "make [CETS] available free of charge to any law enforcement agency that wants to use it." But no mention of any Open Source license.

Details of how the system works are being kept secret, Hemler (Microsoft Canada president) said. "We're intentionally coy about the technology that is used in this because we think it gives the good guys an advantage over the bad guys," he said. "Think of it as an assembly of commonly available Microsoft software, using techniques from Microsoft Research and best practices that the law enforcement community shared with us."

I think it was cancelled due to lack of interest (on the sponsor's side, I think). I don't think there'll be an event left to cancel in 2006 ...

One of many EDS problems. I can't recall a recent headline where EDS successfully delivered on an enterprise scale project that was on time, on budget, and actually worked...

And comparing Intel's financials to AMD's financials last quarter what do you think made better business sense

Taking that number and assume somewhat steady over 17 years they must have around 50.000 in total, so they opened up 1%. This is not insignificant in my wiev

...and with the continued sucess...

I guess it depends on what you mean by "success". If success means losing tons of money all the time, then yeah, the X-Box is a success. This type of financial spending is what Japanese companies in the 80s were doing, taking huge losses on products in order to get a stranglehold on the market.

Plus with their cross-licensing agreement it's not like Intel has to pay to use these extensions.

And to reply to a previous comment further up, why would Intel need to reverse engineer the specs when they have the right to use the specs in the first place?

There are already proof of concept viri that work on both linux and windows.
http://antivirus.about.com/library/weekly/aa032801 a.htm/
http://www.itworld.com/AppDev/1312/IWD010328hnvirl in//
looks like this has been happening since 2001 according to the itworld article (look at the date in the upper left hand corner.)
the only thing that has changed is the vector of infection. There was also a /. article if i remember right, but i can't seem to get the right search terms to find it.

And how many times has Microsoft's lapdog BSA audited some one, found a piece of Microsoft warez that some employee had pirated and fined the hell out of the company for it? That's what makes this newsworthy.

And for further information, the virus MacAfee reported on was called Perrun. You can read more about it here. The advisory was issued in mid 2002, and is entirely seperate from the issue at hand.

Malicious hackers made off with code for versions 12.3 of IOS after the thief compromised a Sun Microsystems Inc. server on Cisco's network, then briefly posted a link to the source code files on a file server belonging to the University of Utrecht in the Netherlands, according to Alexander Antipov, a security expert at Positive Technologies, a security consulting company in Moscow.

I know Earthlinks $16 million judgment against Howard Carmack was just a drop in the bucket for a spammer, but the 3.5 to 7 years the fed got him for should get the attention of the other ass pounders.

Computerworld Today 9/9/04

Companies are already finding that their intellectual property is getting stolen, and their lawyers don't know the legal turf well enough to be able to enforce their contracts.

The other bad news about outsourcing is that savings are at best, about 20% for anything more complex than putting a Nike sneaker together. While the hourly rate is lower overseas, the cost of building infrastructure, workarounds where one can't build infrastructure, coordinating work across timezones, etc. become much more significant.

IMHO, offshoring is just another Bad Idea in the form of a management fad. Remember Theory X? Theory Y?

I think the fad will run its course, but the damages to business in outsourcing companies (e.g. kids in school are already avoiding IT / tech courses on the basis that the jobs aren't there) may take a generation to fix, and some Fortune 500 companies doing "bet the company" projects with outshoring won't survive the fad.

But the CEOs will get golden parachutes, so all will be OK in the end.

...liberals, are the ones most likely to attempt to censor to their opponents.

I have two cases for you to help you ponder your hypocrisy:

Al-Jazeera
Yellow Times

Censorship is wrong. A liberal would not be in favor of censorship. These guys are more accurately described as anarchists.

Actually, the 1:1 thread library has been available for at least 4 years in Solaris. It has only recently become the default.

Perhaps I should elaborate..

Telstra (formerly Telecom) is THE tele-communications company in australia. It is a government owned monopoly, and doesn't hesitate to screw over the little guy to please the shareholders (like any big public company). On top of that it is bureacratic to the extreme(like anything governmental).

They provide shocking service for both wired telephone - dialup(particularly in regional areas), and for "broadband" - I'm not with Telstra and I still pay 70AU per month for 12gb on cable. Simply because Telstra can price fix the market. The mobile phone market is slightly better, with 3 established companies and a few smaller but growing ones.

Here is a history of SQL. I wanted to check the article's facts. Also, I was curious... History of SQL

Correct - there is no way to transmit pure information through photon entanglement for example. But it is possible to use this technique to verify some information transmitted in conjunction with a separate (classic) channel.

This has two consequences:
1) First, it is practically possible to use entanglement to build networks that are 100% guranteed to transmit either correct information or error.
2) Second, since measuring any particle will necessarily change it state gives an interesting conclusion: it is impossible to tamper the communication channel that transmits entangled photons. As soon as you attempted to measure what's on the channel, the verification mentioned above (i.e. the correlation between the final measurement of the two entangled particles at the two ends) will fail!

Therefore you have a bullet proof method that will prevent active/passive attacks on the entangled channel. The technique was actually employed in practice - see this link for example.

NB - this technique still doesn't prevent attacks that fully substitute one of the ends with a completely identical device so the other end still thinks it is talking to the right person. But in combination with standard cryptography techniques for the insecure channel, this techniue is almost impossible to break. A nice overview is presented here

Thank you, Captain Obvious.

• Exhibit 1
• Exhibit 2

As long as it was their honest opinion

But was it? I did not know that dead people had an opinion. Further, upon questioning many of the people who's names were used - they had no idea a letter had been sent in their name. By what stretch of the imagination is this an honest opinion? And yes. You should be fined. Doesn't always happen - but then if you have a pair of pliers in your back pocket after sundown in Texas you can be hung from the neck until dead and they don't do that either. Just because the laws are there does not always mean they are enforced.

Quite the appeal to fear there

All I can say is - yeah...right. If that was an appeal to fear then I'm Alfred Hitchcock. Come on - get it together guy. If you really have a point to make - then make it.

What you are asking for is for laws to NOT be applied to everyone equally

Oh really? Is that what I was saying? That due to the size, money, and influence which Microsoft has - that it is being allowed to set its own terms when it comes to punishment? To flaunt their ability to twist things around so they benefit from what they've done? Or, as the original story pointed out - the punishment does not fit the crime because Microsoft is so powerful that it only takes a few days to get past the punishment. Wow. So just why did we even bother to prosecute them in the first place? We spent hundreds of millions of dollars, thousands of man hours, and we get new computers with Microsoft products installed into our schools so they can extend their monopoly even further? You know - that's like convicting someone of murder, giving them a slap on the wrist, and saying "Don't do that again." I'm sure they will be so afraid that they will never ever kill someone again. Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.... As I said before - yeah - right.

Listen. Your logic is heavily flawed. You are saying that because I said to apply the law that I am a hate monger. When in truth - I just want them to play and suffer by the same rules and laws underwhich the rest of us have to play. And simply because it is Microsoft and simply because you might like them - does not make the rest of us automatically hate mongers. So - sorry, I just don't see your logic.

If one is convicted of a crime one should be punished.

I certainly hope so! But realistically - it doesn't work that way. There was a recent court case in Galveston, Texas where someone who was clearly a murderer walked free. The guy had lots of money, hired a good lawyer, and although they could find parts of the body - they couldn't find the deceased's head. Therefore he walked free. That was certainly justice!

Realistically though. Why would IBM, Sun Microsystem, too many companies to list them all, lots and lots of people from all sorts of backgrounds (myself included), the European Community, Japan, China, in fact all of Asia, and even Australia - all of them not like the outcome of the Microsoft trial. Are we all hate mongers? Or could there just be a smidgen of truth here about how Microsoft was treated versus - say AT&T? Remember the baby Bells? Ever wonder why that happened? Think they are nicer today? No - they are back to their tricks again. (See: 1,2, 3, and many others via Google's search engine)

However! Tell you what! Without all of the personal attacks. Without all this hate monger junk - why don't you just present your points on whether or not you believe the Justice Department should or should not use a "Divide and Conquer" approach? That is what everyone really wants to know (myself included). Be waiting to hear from you.

Later!

Yeah, it changes fast, but if your data is very important and you start using Excel without independently verifying the results, can you trust the results? Financial software is typically verified out the wazoo before it is put into production.

Other articles on this can be found here, here, here, here, and here.

1. Increased costs don't translate to higher prices. Businesses don't just go "oh gee, our heating bill was $70 higher this month than we were expecting, better raise our prices by 0.03 cents per unit". Businesses sell at the price that will maximize the value of the price per unit times the number of consumers willing to buy at the current price per unit. Cost only comes in in that if that value winds up being less than the expected overall cost of producing the product over time, the product is discontinued. unless the company is Microsoft.
   
   Now given, since Microsoft can set their own prices, it's quite likely MS would purposefully increase costs in the EU after this even if it lowers their demand to "punish" the EU, or so that they can whine "oh look, enforcing antitrust laws just leads to higher demand". But the fact such things are possible seems to me like an argument for MORE action against MS's monopoly, not less.
   
   
2. Such costs would be nearly incidental. Like I said, the increased support and overhead costs would be absolutely dwarfed by, say, the amount of money put into Windows Media Player with no expectation on return, or the amount of money put into the XBox with no expectation on return in the last week*. It probably would not even be as large a cost as, say, a $613M fine. I don't see anyone going "Paying $613M to the EU will result in higher costs for Microsoft, resulting in higher prices to consumers".

There are RFID chips that can fit into paper. Digital Watermarking is a perfect solution for fighting counterfeiting. See here and here for random crap discussing it. The only question is: If they haven't released RFID chips in paper money yet, when will they? This would also make processing large amounts paper money much easier for banks. Anyhow, the Slashdot community is not ready for Alex Jones. He's like some wild eyed sooth sayer reading the tea leaves. You have to decipher what he's saying by ignoring his editorializing. You can't just process everything literally.

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It's available from GNU, it can be used with C programs, Perl scripts, PHP, Python, etc. It's databasing at its simplest. I use it myself. It works well.

X-bit labs - Hardware news - AMD Athlon 64 3400+ Processor is available now

AMD launches new mobile, desktop Athlon chips (IT World)

Reviews: Athlon 64 3400+

AMD extends Athlon 64 family

AMD Athlon 64 3400+ Processor launched

AMD Athlon 64 Processor 3400+ Joins the Line-Up

Anyway, if you re-read brad's post, his home grown SSL replacement will be rolled out at the same time as a full SSL login system, with most likely the javascript version being the default.
This will allow the SSL believers to feel comfortable, which keeping the overall system load at an acceptable level.

Here are some links. See esp. the REST Wiki:
Adam Bosworth's Weblog: Learning to REST
Bitworking - The Well-Formed Web - REST
Debate foams over SOAP 1.2 - REST versus SOAP
How To Convert Rpc To Rest
http://www.xfront.com/ - REST Tutorial, XML et al - Roger Costello's site
ITworld.com - XML IN PRACTICE - XML, Web Services, and the REST Architecture
Mark Baker, Tech Curmudgeon - REST - Transport, transfer and coordination in HTTP
O'Reilly Network: REST vs. SOAP at Amazon [June 24, 2003]
Paul Prescod's REST Resources
Reliable delivery in HTTP - REST
REST A Web-Centric Approach to State Transition - Paul Prescod
REST could burst SOAP's bubble - Hoobler
REST Faq - Alternative to SOAP XML
REST SlideShow: Representational State Transfer: An Architectural Style for Distributed Hypermedia Interaction
REST wiki - Representational State Transfer - alternative to SOAP XML
rest-discuss Message 2330 - ROP vs RPC vs OOP pt 1
Roots of REST - SOAP Debate - Paul Prescod Yahoo! Groups : rest-discuss Messages :Message 1314 of 1646
Roy T. Fielding - REST Architect
Sean McGrath BLOG - REST proponent
W3C mailing-list search service on REST
Why you should not use RPC for GET
xml-dev - Re: [xml-dev] SOAP-RPC and REST and security
XML.com: In a Lather About Security - SOAP security vs REST security
Yahoo! Groups : rest-discuss Messages : 2371-2428 of 2428