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I think I should mention a new project that is in the works. The founder of OpenNIC, Robin Bandy, and I (Nathan Lunt) have been in discussions over the last couple of months to create a daughter project of the OpenNIC project for a democratically-controlled Certifying Authority modeled after OpenNIC. As such, we're looking at a situation where people will be able to get a certificate signed by a third party for, as it stands, free.

Such a project has enormous possiblities ranging from, as this thread discusses, cheap SSL ceritifcates for small websites, to potentially DRM applications as well, as mentioned in Robin's article here.

This project is only in the very infant stages, and has been off to a fairly slow start due to our busy schedules; however, once we are over the hump of policy creation and technical implementation, we should be well on our way to having a system of certification that is fair and within reach to every application imaginable.

No where in the US's founding documents is it supposed that one own an idea. Through copyright one is merely granted the right to prosecute those those who copy that idea without permission, because society wishes to provide some incentive.

Extending your argument, copyright should last for eternity.

The difference between atoms and 'pattern[s] of ones and zeroes' is well described by Thomas Jefferson:

He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. That ideas should freely spread from one to another over the globe, for the moral and mutual instruction of man, and improvement of his condition, seems to have been peculiarly and benevolently designed by nature, when she made them, like fire, expansible over all space, without lessening their density at any point, and like the air in which we breathe, move, and have our physical being, incapable of confinement or exclusive appropriation.

Thomas Jefferson, in Writings of Thomas Jefferson, vol. 6, H.A. Washington, Ed.,1854, pp. 180-181, referenced from http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2001/7/23/23214/3438

Signal11 got tired of his karma game on Slashdot and went over to K5. Here's his explanation. Also note that after he went to K5 he actually made much better posts than he ever did here. Sig has since abandoned k5 too.

Signal11 got tired of his karma game on Slashdot and went over to K5. Here's his explanation. Also note that after he went to K5 he actually made much better posts than he ever did here. Sig has since abandoned k5 too.

Signal11 got tired of his karma game on Slashdot and went over to K5. Here's his explanation. Also note that after he went to K5 he actually made much better posts than he ever did here. Sig has since abandoned k5 too.

It is understandable why you might want to avoid the appearance of blowing your own horn, but perhaps a Slashdot meta-section might keep the myriad complaints about (moderation|metamoderation|karma|layout|...) from cluttering the other sections.

Yes, I know Brand X has this, but perhaps /. should as well.

Let's see... pin eight... spanish for "eight" is "ocho"... fairy tales... "Pinocho" spanish for Pinocchio... You're not talking about pin0cchio, are you? Some of the Bono Act stuff he spews matches the Bono Act stuff you spew.

Let's see... pin eight... spanish for "eight" is "ocho"... fairy tales... "Pinocho" spanish for Pinocchio... You're not talking about pin0cchio, are you? Some of the Bono Act stuff he spews matches the Bono Act stuff you spew.

Let's see... pin eight... spanish for "eight" is "ocho"... fairy tales... "Pinocho" spanish for Pinocchio... You're not talking about pin0cchio, are you? Some of the Bono Act stuff he spews matches the Bono Act stuff you spew.

Let's see... pin eight... spanish for "eight" is "ocho"... fairy tales... "Pinocho" spanish for Pinocchio... You're not talking about pin0cchio, are you? Some of the Bono Act stuff he spews matches the Bono Act stuff you spew.

Is [substantial debate] in a secret section that I don't have access to? :-)

Here's the section.

Evey post disparaging someone else's spelling or grammar, or lauding one's own spelling or grammar, will inevitably contain a spelling or grammatical error.

Btw, it's "grammar".

kuro5hin?

and the women are hotter too

Ahem.

Instigator of "GNU/Linux" Issues Public Apology comments on [OT] Why Stallman says GNU/Linux .

2 clicks away... http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2001/6/19/05641/7357

There has been talk of creating a Political Action Committee for technology issues, but so far, nothing has come of it.

There has been talk of creating a Political Action Committee for technology issues, but so far, nothing has come of it.

Heh, rather than repeat myself, here is a link to an article I wrote for K5 on 1k chess for the ZX81 a while back: The greatest program ever written. Enjoy.

allowing people to use their mod points on articles.

Then go here and use your mod points to mod stories up to +95.

allowing people to use their mod points on articles.

Then go here and use your mod points to mod stories up to +95.

Subject: First post

You are a dog!

A recent K5 article on Esperanto

Regarding the boxes. They are all donated either to ACCRC in Oakland or FreeGeek in Portland. We spent the last several weeks going through all the old lower end boxes they had and trying to make workable boxes out of them. Because we were getting together 235 computers we lowered our standards from what ACCRC or FreeGeek normally will send out. The boxes range from 100 mhz to 333mhz P I's and II's. Our goal at accrc was to get 64 megs of ram but freegeek doesn't have quite the resources that accrc gets from the bay area so they used 8meg edo simm's which means the box only gets 32megs total. All of the boxes have NIC cards, 1 gig or better hard drives, and a video card. There were sound cards in a bunch of them but we didn't have the time to go through and configure them. The same goes for modems, we actually tried to add modems but if kudzu didn't find it we just left it in there unconfigured and moved on to the next box.

The final setup we used was based on a netinstall / net boot system that the freegeek folks have put together called lessdisks. After a little pain recompiling the kernels to make sure we had support for all the random ethernet cards we got the install process really streamlined. We'd make sure the box had a hard drive, ram, video, and ethernet. Then we'd pop in the netinstall disk. It boot up using grub and our kernel would just nfs mount from a local server. Everything else was pulled over the network. We had scripts for formatting the hard drives which just set everything up with boot, swap, and one big main partition. On the server we had a clone of a server which was used as the base for each install. After everything was copied over we ran a bunch of scripts which tried to detect all the hardware. We then had like 4 questions which we need to answer on each box to detect the sound card, video for x, and mouse. This process made doing a couple hundred installs MUCH easier. Because we were finishing up the software configuration at the same time as we were rolling out boxes we have another option in the lessdisks install to do an rsync update. This let us fiddle with the spanish configuration and setup until two days before we packed everything up on palettes.

We used ICE for the window manager, Rox as a desktop, and KOffice for the basic apps. KDE, Gnome, StarOffice, and Mozilla were all way to bloated for this class of machine.

If you're in the Bay Area or Portland and are interested we will be working on sending more shipments of computers to south america in a few months. Please send me an email, evan at indymedia.org if you want to be notified when we start.

Would it be possible to localize it more? Right now it is -1, Too US-Centric. This could be my startup page. :)

Like Quickies? Try Memepool. Or try this mega-MLP on Kuro5hin.

What do you think this is, K5? ;-)

A few years ago a few high-karma slashdot users attempted to auction off their accounts on ebay. I can't remember, i think the perpetrators included enoch root and signal 11 though. Please correct me if i'm wrong. The slashdot adminigensia did not take kindly to this. They noticed the auctions and did something rather nasty to shut them down, i can't remember what-- either they locked the accounts so they couldn't be signed in anymore, or they bitchslapped them, either way leaving an account no one would want to buy..

There's a lot of not-so-nice things to be said about the slashdot admins, but i have to give them this: they try as hard as they can to keep people looking at slashdot as a discussion site, not a game.

Incidentally, kuro5hin, slashdot's kid sister, has been selling pbs-style "subscriptions" recently. You get some random extra bonuses on your accout-- can't remember clearly, you can check it out yourself but it is interesting in that you don't get more visibility, or any other posting advantage-- near as i can tell, you just get an integrated spell checker for all your posts :)

If you want something pay for it.

What if what I want is "out of print"? Should everybody who wants a copy be forced to buy a hundred thousand copies just to create enough volume demand to make the publisher think that it is reasonable to run another lot?

If what you are paying for doesn't provide what you want, stop buying it.

"What I am paying for" with tax money includes poor representation in Congress of the rights of the consumer. If I stop buying that, I go to jail for tax evasion.

someone is willing to provide almost any service for a price.

Not necessarily. AOL Time Warner refuses to license Speedy Gonzales at any price.

www.kuro5hin.org instead. slashdot sux.

Someone on K5 got one of these and reviewed it in their journal.

My first "art" release (knocked up after I finished my work on X-COM Apocalypse) was THROB, which was a purely visual experience, and did not include the source as part of the "experience".

My second "art" release, described on an Italian Linux site as "deliciously incompressible"
was created for the International Obfuscated C Code Contest 2000 in collaboration with a friend, and did get some recognition. It is "THADGAVIN, and it won the "Most Portable Output" award. It was also featured on a the French alternative art scene website Téléférique, and discussed on K5 in that context.

As for the stuff on display here, I find it uninspired artistically, and unimpressive technically. There is very little "art" to the source code, and very little original about the output. I suspect that they got to be shown in a reputable gallery purely on the basis that they are "in". Trendy art students, part of the art scene.

Well, according to the fellows over at kuro5hin, this might be my fault. I smell a class action lawsuit in my future, heh :D

Hmm...I remember reading somewhere that Palladium allows you to run unsigned code.

I also remember hearing somewhere that states that Palladium could be used for media control, also.

The only thing I would be afraid of is the next version of Windows will require Palladium coupled hardware. According to a Slashdot poll, that affects nearly half of the users of this site, assuming they would want to upgrade.

Credits to this man.

Now shut the fuck up. If you want serious discussion all the time there are other [kuro5hin.org] options [advogato.org].

Serious discussion? You decide.

Welcome to Slashdot. This is stuff that matters.

Now shut the fuck up. If you want serious discussion all the time there are other options.

The parent post is a stock troll, cribbed from a story on Kuro5hin, and sprinkled with inflammatory allusions to, "bearded Linux hippies [living] in their parents' basement." It is also signed with the moniker HYBTT, which stands for, "Have You Been Trolled Today?"

It is also a dangerously deceptive re-casting of Jefferson's words into an entirely misleading light. Jefferson strenuously opposed copyrights, as they are a form of monopoly. Jefferson opposed monopolies in all forms, as they inevitably lead to abuses. An example of an abusive monopoly contemporary to Jefferson was the East India Company, whose record of abuse was well-documented.

What Jefferson was really saying in the famous quote cited above was, "Look, information leaks no matter what you do to contain it. No natural law sustains the notion of copyright. So save yourself the ulcer and don't bother trying."

Jefferson eventually agreed to establishment of copyright, but it was not in the form he wanted, and he still feared the abuses it might bring -- fears which, 200 years later, appear to have been borne out.

A more complete, balanced, troll-free discussion of Jefferson's and Madison's thoughts concerning copyright may be found here, also on Kuro5hin.

Schwab

The parent post is a stock troll, cribbed from a story on Kuro5hin, and sprinkled with inflammatory allusions to, "bearded Linux hippies [living] in their parents' basement." It is also signed with the moniker HYBTT, which stands for, "Have You Been Trolled Today?"

It is also a dangerously deceptive re-casting of Jefferson's words into an entirely misleading light. Jefferson strenuously opposed copyrights, as they are a form of monopoly. Jefferson opposed monopolies in all forms, as they inevitably lead to abuses. An example of an abusive monopoly contemporary to Jefferson was the East India Company, whose record of abuse was well-documented.

What Jefferson was really saying in the famous quote cited above was, "Look, information leaks no matter what you do to contain it. No natural law sustains the notion of copyright. So save yourself the ulcer and don't bother trying."

Jefferson eventually agreed to establishment of copyright, but it was not in the form he wanted, and he still feared the abuses it might bring -- fears which, 200 years later, appear to have been borne out.

A more complete, balanced, troll-free discussion of Jefferson's and Madison's thoughts concerning copyright may be found here, also on Kuro5hin.

Schwab

>> But if you give them a new form of media, say, a song on a copy-protected CD, and they can no longer listen to it except on approved devices that they cannot copy from, why should the government provide the same protection to you?

> Why hasn't anyone else said this before? (At least not in anything I've read so far.) It's brilliant and fits in a sound bite. If copyright is to protect things that can be easily copied, then you can't copyright something that is hard to copy. QED.

The original post is a blatant copy from http://www.kuro5hin.org/print/2002/3/8/1465/50261 and have been posted to slashdot by karma whores several times since.

PHP is used for more than your "small" MySQL-based website. Not only does it support a lot other databases beside MySQL,
but it scales very good too.

As for ASP, a good programming enviroment?
*laff*

[Politics is going on], and you people have the gall to be discussing $8000 monitors???? My *god*, people, GET SOME PRIORITIES!

OSDN Slashdot is primarily a technology discussion site. If, on the other hand, you want to discuss politics, and you want to help choose which stories are discussed, please head to Kuro5hin.

Even then, as of this writing, Slashdot still has an active story where you can discuss the terrorist attack of 11 September 2001.

Kuro5hin has a link to this article at New Times LA. It's unfortunate that I read this and think this is more true than I would have hoped. (Sorry about the dupe. I didn't select HTML formatted previously)

I'm leaving.

That article was mostly speculation short on technical details but long on Micro$oft bashing.

Being a geek I got more mileage out of reading the technical details on palladium by a member of the EFF (Seth Schoen) who was at a presentation and TCPA and Palladium: Sony Inside an article on kuro5hin by a former Microserf.


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• Special Tribute to Dirac
  

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• Special Tribute to Dirac