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Google Does the News
rizen was among the countless readers who submitted that google does the news. They've added a new tab to their interface, and a CNNish sorta web page that indexes thousands of online news sites. Their technology section is showing some Slashdot stories too (sweet!). I like that they combine related stories on the same subject.
Nifty setup.
technology section is showing some Slashdot stories too (sweet!).
I don't see why they would. They probably already posted the article Slashdot is linking to before slashdot posts the story.
Slashdot isn't a news site as much as a community site. Most articles are just pointing to real news sites. Its the comments that gives this site the edge.
but is it maybe time for slashdot to get a google topic? i know several posts will be made about it, and that one person sent a sample icon into the slashcode RFEs on SF.
That'll come in handy for doing large-scale research projects on subjects such as cloning and stem-cell research. I can not even begin to imagine the possibilities. I think my life just got one hell of a lot easier. :)
Thank you, Google!
Informatus Technologicus
Sites that require a user/pass (nytimes, etc)?
New news makes the news. *snicker*
"I'm a leaf on the wind. Watch how I soar."
-Hoban Washburn
I can load relevant headlines without waiting for my browser to time out on CNN's AOL/Netscape banner every time.
Still, I wonder how the other news sources are going to react. They make their revenue on advertisting and if Google is skimming off the top of their viewership, I have to wonder if they're not going to start kvetching pretty quickly.
The next Slashdot story will be ready soon, but subscribers can beat the rush and slashdot the links early!
That dup detection code would do wonders to help slashdot. Any chance that Google will license it to /. ?
At the moment it has World and U.S. sections. I think what it could really do with is different regional sections, which would be default to different regions URLs. (eg. news.google.co.uk having a UK section). It really doesn't interest me that much that South Dakota is to vote on extending jury rights!
I know lots of news pages exist, but this is nice and clean. Plus, they seem to have a good amount of international news. I can see using this every day. Plus, it's nice not to be beaten over the head with layers, flash and such. Imagine that... just the news!
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As long as it's better* than msn, excite, yahoo or the like, yes.
*bett er - adj Does not have insanely annoying banner ads everywhere, nor advertisements disguised as headlines, or random flash popups or interstitial ads.
enough said
And I was just thinking "I wonder if anybody has told /. about this yet..."
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I thought Google's indexing/spidering system was innovative because it ranked pages in terms of how popular and prevalent they are on OTHER pages. I would think that it takes a small amount of time for this kind of "popularity" to build up. Are they changing their methods for the news section? Using their traditional methods, it wouldn't be "news" anymore. Is it just taking the headlines from the most popular websites and posting them there? Don't get me wrong, Google's the best at what it does, so this will probably end up being a good thing, I'm just curious about the methodologies employed.
msn has a lot of great content (although they have mastered the ability to make news and advertising one and the same) but MSN is UGLY>
google is clean simple and efficient.
the best part of it is that Cricket is the headlining sport.
People who think they know everything really piss off those of us that actually do.
...are gleaned from other news sites 95% of the time (the exceptions being book reviews, interviews, and Ask Slashdot). It's not like Slashdot is a source of original content. (Somehow this reminds me of people using pop culture names for their web handles, then complaining when someone else uses the same handle.)
maybe time for slashdot to get a google topic
They already have one. It's called "Ask Slashdot"
With the new traffic from Google.com and such, does anyone think that our beloved Slashdot-effect will either become more powerful, or have a reduced effect on... well... those being slashdotted? Imagine the speed at which we could melt servers with the added power of Google and CNN.
:)
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In a suprising gambit Google introduces a new service that is expected to incure significant cost and will bring no revenue.
Way to go!
-m-
I would like to die like my grandfather did - sleeping. And not screaming in terror, like his passengers.
I really like automatic news grabbers. I have been using Columbia Newsblaster for a while which does a similar sort of thing.
Kevin
"It's not the cough that carries you off, it's the coffin they carry you off in" O. Nash
GoogleNews does GoogleNews.
This is a long overdue feature....its automatic, robust, and I've often wanted to read another take on the same issue when I've read a news article. I hope that they have it set up to filter out all the repeated AP articles that are on 2 zillion different websites. But I'm guessing they did, it would just be similar to filering out similar results in general searches.
doesn't yet show up on the main page when using different language settings. (Are there REALLY some geeks out there who don't use the klingon interface?)
Here's the story from CNET.
;-)
The news page is nice, but the big thing is that google now searches "4,000 publications around the world. Previously, the site had searched 150 publications every hour."
Maybe now, Google execs won't have to publicly admit that All the Web ha[d] a better news search.
So close and yet so far from the world's perfect ID number
Now I only hope they put it into thier google toolbar.
On another subject. Before news.google.com I used exclusively ThePaperboy. I still do although not as much. But unlike paperboy google is more a portal to news, which in itself allows the url's to appear to be more subjective. Certainly something Psyops would like to play with.
Don't get me wrong its a great site but nearly all news sites are biased (truth is subjective), the secret is to read both sides and form an opinion between the two. When you control the portal though it allows you to slant your other side of the argument.
Interesting to note that their news service is done without human intervention (or so they claim.)
nice layout!, but still no links to alternative news sources, pretty much mainstream media reports.
Their technology section is showing some Slashdot stories too (sweet!).
What if Google links to this story? Then you get the Slashdot slashdotting Google, who will slashdot Slashdot, who will bounce it to Google, who will bounce it back to Slashdot, who will retur*Runtime error: Endless recursive loop encountered, stack overflow. Brain dump follows.*
Heh. Bandwidth firefights - this oughta be cool. Nifty setup indeed!
Soko
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The only really new thing about this is the fact google is now linking to it from the front page. I know that for over a year this interface has been in beta and has been getting better.
It's important to remember that they don't actully report any news, they just link to it. (Kinda like slashdot.) You will still read the stories on the provider's website. This makes it not the greatest place to get breaking news and personally don't allways trust AP. (Though they do link to several other news site for each story.)
The is a whole bunch of google "beta" sites. I know they have a catalog section and I think they have a few other more interesting sections.
Here's where you can scroll down and see /.'s name listed. Here.
just scroll down about halfway and you'll see it.
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I was reading an intersting angle on Google's new toy over at HealYourChurchWebSite.com where the blogger suggests poking a stick in the eye of old-media by combining tools such as the Google API & SOAP::Lite with the Blogger API & some XML-RPC library.
Of course, my thought is considering the lengths Google goes to to thwart scrapes and scripts, I doubt such a tool is possible.
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.. it's just linked to the main page now. For something extra-schweet though, try their experimental keyboard-navigable search interface - found it from Mycroft, the Mozilla search bar plugin project.
Michel
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Every day I go to NYT and Washinton Post to find out what editorials have been written. I'd like to see them collect all the particularly good ones into one place.
That said, I really like this new page. It might easily become my first stop for news.
we most definitely do.
especially if you are searching for current events.
How many times have we come across links for past events , when all we want is current events.
Plus the news are sorted by relevance which is very helpful
for the last time people, I am "frodo from middle eaRTH", not "middle eaST".
Maybe since slashdot's stories are being picked up by a big news site, this would be a good time to implement some spelling/grammar/fact checkers.
Just what I need... another place to read the exact same wire news stories. Jesus. That's all the Web is now... a lot of rehashed wire stories. Already I can get those at CNN, ABC, Yahoo, MSN, hell, everybody has those. I want FRESH WRITING. Salon used to have it, before they went subscription. Other than them, I'm not sure where else to read real writing.
Half way down that google news page is a link to this story on Slashdot about google news.
This seems like kind of "news-portal-search engine" stuff what doomed Alta Vista by causing them to bloat out their staff and neglect their core technology.
I am worried that google will loose focus on the primary reason that people go there, and the search service will suffer because of it. Fair enough that the service will be usefull, but when you're on top you need to work twice as hard on your primary product to stay there.
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Google is well on the way to The Definitive Net.
100% focussed on what people actually want.
Their news index is incredibly valuable.
It is smooth, comprehensive, international.
Kudos! This is what the Net was meant to be!
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*bett er - adj Does not have insanely annoying banner ads everywhere, nor advertisements disguised as headlines, or random flash popups or interstitial ads.
Don't you know a "feature" when you see one?
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Google searches for the news
ZDNet- 1hourago
Google unveiled on Monday an expanded test version of its search engine for current events and news, the latest step in the company's move into new markets.
Google Launches News ServicePCWorld
Google launches news search siteTelecomPaper(subscription)
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Google has always used new searching technology to grab mindshare and then unobtrusively introduce ways to advertise or make money out of it (eg. business google search appliance, google adwords, etc). I don't see why this would be any different.
Not every company has no direction or hope. It just so happens that some have a business plans which benefit both the consumer and the company.
they have a mighty nice sci/tech page
The beta news site has been up for some time. I guess they have finally put it into production. (Although it still says beta)
Also available, and still in beta, is the Catalog site, which provides photo versions of actual printed catalogs, including my favorite. (Radio Shack)
Google is truly breaking new ground..
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" This page was generated entirely by computer algorithms without human editors. No humans were harmed or even used in the creation of this page."
when Google will start placing sponsored news sites' pages at the top of the each article listing. In other words, when will we see CNN's stories appearing regularly in the top billing?
:wq
So now is Slashdot in for a taste of it's own medicine?
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The organizational structure of Google News is great! I love how they group related stories. At many top news sites, you can almost smell the bias of the reporter in the story. I like reading about a story from more than one source to get a better picture of what is really going on. Google is following their usual style of doing it simpler, faster and better than the competition.
Great ideas often receive violent opposition from mediocre minds. - Albert Einstein
The scary part is, now that he's provided a link to the page Google will archive it and you'll be able to search Google for Google News searching for google news on /.
This morning:
Slashdot runs an article about Google's new News feature
Later today?
Google's new News feature runs the Slashdot article about Google's new News feature
Minutes Later...
Slashdot readers everywhere crash as their brains and browsers get caught in an infinite loop!!
using System.Awesome;
I was just saying to my girlfriend that if there's any one company that I have more respect for than any other company in the world, it would be Google.
And then this came out. I got to point and say, "See, this is why!" Then I ran around the room in my underwear laughing maniacally. I think I'm sleeping on the couch tonight.
- SMJ - (It's not just a name: it's a bad aftertaste.)
The nice thing about this site is that it isn't nearly as busy as other news sites. Try CNN or USA TODAY or something like that, and you can see how truly busy the site can appear. CNN's new layout makes it look like a million things are going on everywhere. It's a giant page of links. I've noticed that Google's new news site seems to encapsulate everything without being very messy and with separation. Additionally, there aren't thousands of links to go in every direction. The comprehensive aspect is probably one of the greatest features too.
;)
Wow... I sound like a Google Executive pushing the excellence of the new product -- sorry
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Why don't you start your own website, and do it? This is the web, remember? The place where "old media" will be out manouvered by people like you, who are quick to act and can start a website on a shoestring budget. You're already running a porn portal, you know what the technical steps involved in setting up your site are.
Yes, but you could always find older stuff on Google. This allows you to Google around for current events and developments, which anybody who's tried it knows didn't work to well in the past.
Well, according to this /. post I don't suppose we'll be seeing headlines from Danish websites there anytime soon.
I suppose that google will now be fueling the debate over deep-linking rights, as it appears that all of their stories deep link right to the article, instead of the main website. This could invariably cause problems for the anti-deep-linking supporters.
If you're looking here for something insightful or thought provoking, you're probably looking in the wrong place.
Since sites like Google and Yahoo (for biz news mostly) are central to my browsing experience, I always wonder why they do not charge a small yearly fee for some kind of 'premium' access. They could certainly get away with it for most users.
-Mark
There was a story about Microsoft buying rare in the Sci/Tech section that was linked from nytimes.com ... I didn't need to log in! It just took me to the new story.
Sweet.
From Google's "About Google News" link:
This is an interesting development for Google. Ruling out the possibility of paid placement (for now), it seems as though PageRank doesn't apply to the news aggregator. (And how would it? Stories are updated continuously.) It's not likely to be completely random, either, although such an approach could lead to some very interesting story angles.
:wq
Stop the brainwash
This is just another reason why I LOVE GOOGLE! First, it was the excellent search engine, then the icing on the cake was searching through newsgroups. I thought that was all I needed, then came searching through news articles. THIS IS GREAT!
Everytime I have a problem, it's Google's Newgroups search that have saved the day!
THANK YOU GOOGLE!
Google is a US-based company. This is a new service. In rolling out the service, they probably placed more emphasis on getting it out the door than on fully implementing non-US sections. Once they are able to gauge the popularity of this service, and their ability to make money on it, then I have no doubt that they'll expand this to include more than just US and World sections.
we slashdot the site, here's a link to the google cache. :)
I think that news sites will start putting pragma statements at the top of their html to stop google from listing them. Google had better comply with these statements too if they don't want to get sued. Sites can't afford to loose ad revenue to Google.
how about when google starts to do auctions! isn't google the perfect application? but, what happens when people are no longer provided with "images" for their interests, just endless possibilities? i would say that news aggregators will be angry, and isn't this what most newspapers are now? look at the bylines on the new york times.
Anyone else having problems with Mozilla (1.1) on the Google News site? Twice now I have had to reboot my Win98 machine after Mozilla crashed hard while I was scrolling down the Sci/Tech page. It has me a little gun-shy about revisiting the site, at least with Mozilla.
Obviously this is a beta when a cricket game is the top sports story.
It's just a pitty that the headline story is 4 days old (suicide bomber in Israel). Apparently the "completely automated" system has a few bugs left.
a story from the Onion makes news.google.com?
(This is pretty nifty. Beats flipping through several sites, or as other posters have said, waiting for banners to load on cnn.com. Now if they offer it a couple of other languages, my life will be complete.)
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You could always use the Advanced search and use the "last 3 months" date restriction..
Q.
Don't be ridiculous- it's on a separate damned page, you don't have to go to it if you don't want to. Google's main page is the same wonder of minimalism and functionality it's always been. (And the news page isn't exactly loaded down with unnecessary features, either)
Now they report that Google is announcing a service that AllTheWeb has offered for almost a year; that is: fresh news.
I'm a big fan of Google but this is old news. Really old news. It has been done already. Why is this more important than the Next Thing in web search? Because it's Google? Oh COME ON! Does Google pay you guys?
It is like slashdot only without a subscription and ads in your face. I am sold.
R
Stuff that matters: circuitbreakers, vacuum-cleaners coffee makers, calculators generators, matching salt+pepper shakers
And they will take over the world! But then again, they do have that image search....
Cue the cron/pr0n tab jokes..
Whenever I go to google.com, it instantly reroutes me to google.ca and I find that this site has no tab.
.ca users is fair. And yes, I know I can just go directly to the link.
I read all the comments about international support, but I don't think that having the tab not even availible to
What about all the other regional Google pages? Google forces you to load the page for your country (i.e. in Canada = Google.ca) but could the news then be also from my region?
Having selected the "NEWS" tab, the graphic has a nice "beta" word in it.
I must say I find the format disconcerting and unclear (compared to bbc and cnn)
Perhaps Google will change the page format
It has been mentioned that Google has covered news stories for quite some time. The best place to get info on Google's current projects is Google Labs...
Noticed an interesting thing: They link to Iranian news agency. Is that freedom of press or what!
Not to offend anyone but that's not what I expected from an american company (or from an Iranian news buro for that matter)
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No regristration if you go to a nytimes story from google's news page! Why can't we do that? Here's google's link, for example:
N IN T.html?ex=1033444800&en=c4f426ba46654ccb&ei=5062&p artner=GOOGLE
http://www.nytimes.com/2002/09/21/technology/21
I assume it's the partner=google part that bypasses the registration
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Have you noticed this on the bottom of the Google news page: "No humans were harmed or even used in the creation of this page."?
But what about those pigeons? They conveniently forget to mention that animals were used and abused in the creation of the page!
(oh wait, that's only when you search google news...)
Huh ... Google's cache of their own site is pretty out of date:
Over 1 month old!
10b||~10b -- aah, what a question!
http://catalogs.google.com
Now all we need is for google to start adding some flawed by interesting editor commentary to each article they link to and provide the ability for users to comment on such articles with a flawed self moderation system to somehow allow us to only read the halfway intelligent comments.
Pardon me if this has already been said but:
I would agree with many other people here that this is a good thing and very useful. However, I thought google was supposed to be a very clean interface. No ads, clutter, "free email", weather, stock quotes, etc, etc, etc all over the place. Is this how the other "portals" got started? Slowly adding a feature or 2 until they got a very busy looking page that is no longer usable.
The news page is nice, but it just makes
Google another news portal.
They took off the News And Resources link,
and I really miss that.
Witness: Palestinian's Death Unjust
ABC News - 5 minutes ago
Yet...
Auto-generated 13 minutes ago
Anyone care to explain?
As one poster said earlier, this News feature could be even more useful if it localised based on where the viewer was. Imagine the potential if it provided the same function, but across *all* online news sites, not just well-known ones. Also, it occurs to me, with all this added functionality, Google could soon become *the* one single place to go for - well, for everything. By providing what people want and need, and providing all of it in one easy to use and enjoyable experience, Google.com could soon become a portal. More interesting still, doing it so differently from other so-called portals (AOL, yahoo et. al), Google as a portal would actually succeed. Heck, I'd pay for it.
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do you have to pick up the nambla websites and as well as the cowboy neal playgirl pictorial
Or they could just check the HTTP_REFERRER and deny anyone from another domain than their own.
Or (if they really wanted to screw with the 1% who know or care how to forge a http-header) they could have pseudo-random url:s that change every hour or so.
If I ever saw a problem that needed a technical, not, I repeat NOT a legal solution, this is it.
Why the hell sue people when you can easily stop them from "infringing" (or whatever they call it).
Or they could just wise up and see "deep linking" for what it really is. A benefit to everyone involved.
If you don't allow deep linking your site will become a hassle to use, and large numbers of your customers will probably go elsewhere in search for a more user friendly experience.
Of course, any of the above would require those companies policy making wonks to have any clue at all.
Sadly, tech savvy people in management is all too rare.
I just wish they could stopped being so anal.
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This new interface reminds of everything i hate about yahoo news - cluttered, too many colors, bad layout.
Granted the excessive use of red in the old version wasn't so hot either, but i did prefer it to this...
This has been in beta for months.
I'm guessing Google still respects this, so it's pretty simple to stop it from deep linking...
Code, Hardware, stuff like that.
Slashdot is a site for commenting on the news, news.google.com finds the news. What about combining them to make a fully automated news discussion site? All the server would have to do is pick off the top n stories from Google news and feed them into the slash engine (or one of the slash cones). For bonus points, it could divide the news into different areas of interest. Anyone care to lend me some nice fast servers on with a fast Internet connection?
Here's why that won't happen :)
http://www.satirewire.com/news/0010/internationalOne would hope that with no editors their costs would be lower than a site like CNN's - in theory they should only need a minimal amount of ad revenue to pay for the bandwidth - much like the rest of google...
Google is getting *way* to slick and useful. We've all seen it happen, and get hurt by it before (the "Original" Hotmail, dotMac, etc.) that a free service has wide appeal, and offers a truly valuable service. They make the competition irrelevant. They suck you in.
And then they start charging. Or they start advertising. Or they start offering paid placements.
Beware the free service.
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The new site will be popular and profitable. But what will really line Google's pockets is licensing this technology to content provider and builders of intranet portals.
Sorry about the broken links. Try these instead...
Google Headlines
Google News Search
I hope they keep growing and making a crapload of money. Actually, Google is one of the few things in the 'net I'd pay good money for. It's definitely worth it.
In case you didn't know, you can see all the latest stuff Google is working on here.
Check it out.
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that makes all the difference to me...other news sites... yeh, it's the news but doesn't tell me how NEW it is...definite coup for google designers.
dgd
I suppose Google would want to pay off slashdot to get their story though considering how often /.ers cream all over whatever Google does.
The most it says about the technology is this: I'm guessing that the sources themselves are ranked in the usual manner. The same story from different sources are grouped and finally the placement of the story is determined by how many sources (weighted by their rank) ran it and how those sources positioned it themselves.
I did a search on "Kazaa" just to see if I'd get the "Tiscali teams up with KaZaA" article that was just posted on Slashdot. It came up as the first hit and even had the Slashdot article as the second hit. Pretty impressive since I searched at 12:43PM CST and the article was posted on Slashdot at 11:02AM (timezone unknown). Regardless of time zones, there could have only been a matter of hours or less since it was posted on Slashdot and Google News picked it up. Very neat.
So is it just me or has Google really cornered the market on everything they've touched?
Info searches.
Image searches.
Usenet searches.
And now news.
As a co-worker pointed out, if they were to suddenly find that they had to charge a small fee to access Google, would anyone complain? Where else can you find the in depth services that Google does?
Goran
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I don't get this about sites like this with this much traffic. Why can't they take the time to make their sites comply with the W3 standards, or at least use better CSS and HTML to make smaller pages.
There are probably 400+ occurances of the FONT tag in the HTML output alone. This could be cut down considerably by just replacing it with CSS.
Why is the page using tables? Tables were not made for layout! Those news sections should be DIV's or P's or even SPAN's at the very least.
One would think that Google (friggin Google!) could take the time to make a better coded site. The bandwidth would drop considerably, and probably save a few million a month on bandwidth alone.
(I'll step off my soap box now)
-Vic
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I just want to see a google archive of this:
http://www.alltooflat.com/geeky/elgoog/
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Out of curiosity, I typed in 'news.google.com' a few months ago and saw the site. I figured it had just always been there.
Apparently it was an open test.
This is great! The only reason I had yahoo as my homepage was for the news. I do all my searching on google so this is a great convenience for me.
It will take a lot to make me switch from my old stand by. I mean, where else can I read about people at rave parties dancing the night away with 4 hour erections?
From the Drudge Report, 9/23
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Try finding anything in any RFC declaring or describing the term "Deep Link"!
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If you are interested in personal news agregator, then taker a look at www.feedreader.com. It's a nifty win32 application.
Would it be possible to localize it more? Right now it is -1, Too US-Centric. This could be my startup page. :)
I've been aware of the Beta for some time. The search feature has been great, but the portal left much to be desired. It was basically a cluttered list of five sources for each news story. This new layout seems better, though it still leaves me wondering which stories are supposed to be the most newsworthy. And I see a fundamental problem with Google's approach.
Taking a cross section of all the news that's out there is not going to result in good coverage. One of the big differences between a good newspaper, like The New York Times, and a poor one, like The New York Daily News, is the collection of stories the editors choose. The Daily News needs to get its readers fired up to sell papers, so it covers the most provocative stories it can find and sensationalizes them. The Times has the luxury of knowing its readers trust it to inform them of the most important news.
I know it sounds like an elitist position -- "we know what's best for you." I was once accosted at a party by a USA Today employee who began ranting about how arrogant it was of my paper to assume people wanted to read about human rights abuses in Africa. I asked him what we should be featuring and he detailed a series of articles his paper ran on business travellers who get laid by stewardesses at 30,000 feet. I didn't argue with him, but I felt somewhat more confident that we were choosing the right stories.
If Google covers the news based on what's out there (which is primarily of the USA Today variety), as opposed to applying news values, its offering won't be very informative. It may appeal to the largest number of people who confuse entertainment with news, but I think most Slashdotters will find it very shallow.
There's also the question of Google's "partnerships" with news sites and how that will affect the rankings.
While I still like the news search feature, I prefer the collection of shell scripts I just released. They grab the top headlines and blurbs from a number of major newspapers and put them together on one page, organized by newspaper, so you can browse "trusted" news sites quickly without having to wade through cumbersome javascript navigations, flash ads, registration. You still visit the newspapers' Web sites to read the stories that interest you, but this way you get to check out the merchandise before you commit to jumping through the content owner's hoops.
My aggregator also provides updated lists of all the headlines that have appeared on the wire services in the last several hours. The editors at the news sites are watching these same lists for updates when breaking news occurs... even the major sites that have a large number of reporters. They can't cover everything themselves, and they need to have some coverage until their reporter can get to the story.
It also covers computer news sites like Slashdot (note: the list is currently very Mac-centric because the shell scripts require Curl to trick servers into thinking the download program is a Web browser... I'll try to do the same with wget for Linux, but that's not ready yet), grabs sports scores, the weather report, comic strips, and fetches slippers.
If you're using Mac OS X, or you're willing to install Curl on your Linux box, give it a try. It's free and it's open source.
The ruling goes as far as to says that it is illegal even if the robot respects robots.txt, and even if the danish newspaper knows that all they have to do to stop the robot is to create a robots.txt file, and the newspaper refuses to do that.
Google could run into big problems, if they try to do a deep link to a danish newspaper article on the web. According to the same ruling, that is considered a public performance of the article done by the person or corporation who publishes the deep link.
Sorry. This makes me feel bad about being danish. IPR protection is running amock here in Denmark.
And it gets even worse: Soon a new amendment to our existing copyright legislation will be done. This copies the US DMCA, but does not have the same restrictions (for example, there is no requirement that it should not hamper legit encryption research).
I hope you mean that they link to the same stories that slashdot does, as opposed to linking to slashdot "stories" themselves. It seems kind of silly to link to slashdot who's linking to CNN.
Even worse, slashdot "editors" unnecessarily editorialize, often with unfounded, unresearched points, they're are way too prone to spreading misinformation. (For example, in that Nigerian Money Scam article yesterday, the woman was not from California!)
If Google pulls news from slashdot, why not pull news from The Onion too?
An RSS feed would be nice, too!
Unselfish actions pay back better
2) Since the News tab is red, what color will the next Google tab be?
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News sites top list of job time burners
Gotta wonder if that was done on purpose.
Doesn't quite replace Newsblaster for me, but cool nonetheless.
Well this just pisses me off a tad,2002-09-18 23:25:33 New news feature at Google (articles,news) (rejected). Nice to see that slashdot doesn't ignore its readers, it just waits 5 days before it starts to care.
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Don't we already have enough sources for the standard line from the major media conglomerates?
Some independent (hah!) news sources would be a welcome addition.
Nick
This Google News thing is nothing new (just quite refined). It was available for a while in an older design. Google just finally got around to refining this and putting it on their little "tab navigation" strip. BTW, the "old" Google News logged (the link points to the new site, not a cached version, but notice the older dates of many of the search results) Slashdot stories as well.
Karma: Excellent (fuck, even in the future moderation doesn't work!)
You should also check out newsseer.
I was having trouble getting work done before with my manually created list of news sources. Now all I have to do is stare at the screen and hit 'refresh'. Maybe I can link refreshes to a blink of my eyes.
Their technology section is showing some Slashdot stories too (sweet!).
Oh sure, when alterslash does it, it's stealing, but when google does it, it's sweet.
here is what I offered as a RFE :)
and about a year ago I also sent the idea to google. they never answered me.. who knows
here is the link (read the pdf, not a very long one, you wont be disapointed.) Implement a web assistant in mozilla
http://216.239.39.100/search?q=cache:M_yx0txocYoC: www.alltooflat.com/geeky/elgoog/+&hl=en&ie=UTF -8
how's that?
This is not all that new. There is a UK based aggregatoin service called NewsNow that has been doing this sort of thing for years
This reminds of when I was reading Scripting News a while back and Dave Winer was saying how great it was that Google indexed news when really this type of service is nothing new...
I think what it could really do with is different regional sections...
Argh! No!
news.google.com has been up for *months*! I've been getting my news from them for some time, and they're awesome...and they *just* changed the interface to this ugly table-based thing that you see today. They used to have a simple, clean interface. Argh!
May we never see th
Oh, it's created by computers, instead of humans ?
... Schroeder being reelected has nothing to do with that era.
....
That must explain the current (23:20 UTC) main article courtesy of MSNBC that talkes (I hesitate to say "writes", because of the style) of "autocratic" Germany chosing a new government.
Hello ?!??! I'm Dutch, and at least my family knows something about "autocratic" Germany
Perhaps Google should insert some humans there to prevent the largest mistakes
Toon Moene.
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W00t w00t!!! I luv google! what's next? google track the stocks market?
Google is run by liberal jews. I don't know if this will affect what news they publish, but it is something to keep in mind.
Best. Website. Ever.
If all the world's a stage, anyone who says they want better lighting spends far too much time in a dark theatre.
A little off topic, but I do think the fact that South Dakota is voting on extending jury rights would be interesting to much of the slashdot crowd. It's generally a concept and movement that is closely associated with many libretarian ideals. It allows individual juries to decide on the applicability of laws. I think one of the beauties of the net is the stuff you weren't looking for.
Googlewacking just got a hell of a lot easier.
Web, Images, Groups, Directory, News, *Porn*
That would be priceless.
I just mirrored a snapshot of the slashdot frontpage, and ran it through the w3c validator with interesting results.
To reiterate, bad slashdot!
So I went through the news search and tried out some terms like "Linux", "Open Source", "Perl" and "Junk Science".
I think I've seen the future of the slashdot submission queue.
-transiit
Not so good.
: www.alltooflat.com/geeky/elgoog/+&hl=en&ie=UTF%20- 8
URLs containing IP addresses are bad for the future of humanity.
Next time, try to RTFP:
To link to or bookmark this page, use the following url: http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:M_yx0txocYoC
wait till google news points at your community newspaper
Yeah. I was surprised that they don't have the "cached" version links like they do for regular web pages. Then again, this is a beta service right now. Maybe they'll add cached stories once they learn the hard way, a few times, that it's needed. I'm sure that if they cache the banner ad links too, that nobody will be too upset with them caching stories.
Signatures are a waste of bandwi (buffering...)
By the same token, you can keep people off your property by putting up a nine foot tall fence with razor wire on top and using guard dogs inside
What part of easy don't you understand?
Easy, as in way easier than a legal nastygram.
And as for the law protecting your property, you do look your door and keep an eye on your stuff in public places, don't you?
Any decent sysadmin could configure their webserver to check the HTTP_REFERRER for all pages except the front page. Presto! 99% of this (non) problem solved.
Or they may consider not putting things they don't want people to access freely on the public frigging internet.
This whole "deep linking" debacle is just silly on so many levels.
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If you follow their research in "labs", they had a tool where if you listed several items that formed a "set", it would complete the list. This is obviously how they figure out that several stories are actually about the same thing. Neat!
Finally comes the revenge.. Slashdot got slashdotted!
I should say googleded.
What i'm curious about is, what will happen if say another 'wtc' episode happened, where all of the major news sites were completely saturated bandwidth-wise. Google won't be able to index the news will it, if it can't access the site?
I dont know, just rambling.. hehe
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