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I wonder if use of these spy satellites would overturn this Supreme Court decision?

http://www.mindcontrolforums.com/kyllo-vs-us.htm

The "kyllo" in that case is a cousin in fact.

The "naught bits" might not be very clear, but a lot of people would be unhappy with security guards looking at images of you like the one shown in this article. Would you be happy with some guy looking at a picture of your teenage daughter like this?

Apparently Tim Rifat, the world's leading expert in psychic spying (who knew there WAS such an expert. Where do you take certification tests for THAT honor?) reported in 1998 that the 884 MHz frequency is being used for govt mind control. Of course the sneaky bastards can also alter your sleep patterns! It's all a part of their plan to turn us all into zombies!

... Off to make my tinfoil hat.

The NSA has had this since the early 1980s. It's called Remote Neural Montoring. See NSA whistleblowers evidence for a suit he filed against them

http://www.mindcontrolforums.com/pro-freedom.co.uk/cov_us.html

By what reasoning [do rights exist]?

I like Kerry Thornley's formulation:

Following the Tao, an expert butcher cuts between the joints and thus never has to sharpen his blade. Although a good surgeon is anything but a butcher, incisions must just the same be made one way and not another. This fact can be generalized to all reasonable human activity, including construction of social arrangements. So we see there are rights, or naturally right ways to behave, ways of the Tao, that take conditions into consideration, as well as ecology and sociology. Therefore it is possible with common sense to distinguish between natural ethics that work and unnatural moralities that eventually only produce widespread misery.

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The Seven Noble Natural Rights

There are at least seven natural rights, or the Tao of human activity in society possesses seven attributes, or people are like machines only in the respect that they don't work good if you neglect their maintenance requirements.

What are the maintenance requirements of the human being? Life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness and food, clothing, shelter and medical care.

Keeping us confused and divided against one another about these rights, the multinational power elite teaches us in America that only life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness are rights. In socialist nations they promote the view that only food,clothing, shelter and medical care are rights.

We are further encouraged to argue about whether rights must be earned or whether it is the duty of the government to guarantee them. Everyone necessarily struggles for their rights, and no government can ever guarantee anything except death and taxes.

All that bickering begs the relevant question: What can we do in voluntary cooperation to see that our natural rights, our intimate functional needs, are respected? Without that much, human beings are incapable of behaving as constructively rational and loving members of any population.

"Rights" are the basic conditions needed for humans to thrive.

They are an social constructs.

Everything in consensual reality is a "social construct".

If at this point money had never been created, would the government have a right to take four of my chickens just because I was dead?

If you are dead, they're not your chickens anymore. (Leaving aside for the moment the argument that animals belong to themselves, not to us.) Nothing is yours anymore.

The government didn't really help me grow, feed or maintain my chickens, my family did, so if the government wants a chicken dinner they can go grow their own.

You're arguing that labor creats property rights? That's a quite socialist argument, and I'm sympathetic to it. If we assume that labor creates ownership, and we say your family did help you perform the labor, then the chickens aren't yours, but jointly owned.

Of course your chicken will still be taxed somewhere along the line; taxes come with governments, and governments will be with us until we get to the Univeral Enlightenment that is prerequisite to the abolition of the State.

And of course the claim of your hypothetical labor-sharing family has nothing to do with Richie Rich inheriting millions of dollars that he didn't go a damn thing to earn.

Also remember, the government didn't use to tax in the manner that they do now, or nearly as heavily as they do now.

The government also used to govern a sparsely-populated agricultural nation, not an urbanized industrialized one. (Or one with imperial ambitions.)

Americans still pay significantly lower taxes than other industrialized nations.

I don't believe that anarchy would work any better than communism worked. Anarchy would require everyone to behave...

Zenarchy holds that Universal Enlightenment is a prerequisite to abolition of the State, after which the State will inevitably vanish. Or - that failing - nobody will give a damn about the state anymore.

The question then becomes, what to do in the meantime? Thornley has some ideas.

Read this. Some people DO take this seriously!

http://www.mindcontrolforums.com/starshld.htm

http://www.mindcontrolforums.com/gwen-haarp-satell ite-gps-emf-control-grid.htm

Great scientific pseudoachievements / pseudoadvances:

Phlogiston (a THEORY!! WOOO!)
http://www.jimloy.com/physics/phlogstn.htm

Montgolfier gas
http://www.chm.bris.ac.uk/webprojects2003/hetherin gton/final/montgolfier_bros.html

LSD as a mind control drug
http://www.mindcontrolforums.com/lsd-mc-cia.htm
(to be differentiated from drug addiction, which is certainly controlling)

Frontal lobotomies
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd= Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=6379496&dopt=Abstract

Perpetual motion
http://burtleburtle.net/bob/physics/whythere.html

the 4^H5^H3 kingdom classification of organisms
http://encarta.msn.com/media_461530646/Classificat ion_of_Organisms.html

backdoors into Windows to be used in times of war.

Not just war. The NSA spooks have been accessing and passing on significant commercial data for years. A backdoor in M$Windows would have huge strategic significance. They just need to disguise the backdoor as a network related security flaw. Non-US organisations would be foolish not to consider that possibility. Yet another reason to go open source.

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If you haven't tested your code under heavy load on an SMP machine then you haven't tested it.

I love it when geeks slam capitalism. Since high tech equipment of all kinds can only be affordable via mass production and massive R&D, it's pretty fucking hypocritical to say anything about capitalism while you're typing away on a product that took MASSIVE capital investment by the largest companies in the world.

Both the microchip revolution and the Internet have their origins in publicly funded research.

There's nothing to prevent mass production and massive R&D from occuring outside of capitalism. The USSR had all sort of mass production of arms, and enough R & D to put the first human into space.

(No, I'm not endorsing state communism; I'm a Zenarchist on good days and a libertarian socialist on others. I have little use for any system where a minority holds power, be it the state directly or a state-backed class of "owners".)

Remember that there's an entire political party whose platform involves cutting back on government services and letting the private sector step in to handle things competitively

Yes, I'm familiar with the Libertarian party, and have even voted for Libertarian candidates. But I don't agree with their sophmoric worship of the "free market" and property rights.

Off-topic political rambling follows:

Libertarian capitalists aren't so much about "letting the private sector step in to handle things competitively" as about simply removing government services - the Libertarian party platform is opposed to the very existance of taxation, public utilities, public schools, worker protection laws, OHSA, etcetera.

Now, Zenarchist, that I am, I'm not opposed to the eventual achievement of these goals. As Thoreau put it, "`That government is best which governs not at all'; and when men are prepared for it, that will be the kind of government which they will have." Or

But men are certainly not prepared for it just yet. As Thornley said, "Universal Enlightenment a prerequisite to abolition of the State, after which the State will inevitably vanish. Or - that failing - nobody will give a damn." I don't thnk we're near that prerequisite of Universal Enlightenment quite yet. In the meantime, I don't think that removing the governors of regulation from the engine of state capitalism, taking the brakes off of a system which is designed to consolidate wealth and power into the hands of a small class of "owners" backed by government force, is a wise move.

Want a smaller and less-power government? Fine. Let's start by revoking government-issued corporate charters, land deeds, mineral and other natural resource rights. Also out the window with government-created patents and copyrights. And the reserve banking system that concentrates wealth in the hands of bankers and capitalists, that's got to go.

Capitalism is not some natural "ground state" that government interferes with; it is the product of state power. Shrink the engine of capitalism, then we can talk about removing the governors that keep it from running out of control.

As Opposed to letting people use electronics in their brain's for their own personal benefits(Newer), using electronic-brain-devices for a third-party's maniacal ideas/benefits is nothing new Jose Delgado's ( experiments had some weird conceptions/motives/ideas. Heres The Chip Picture. If you glance at the article you will see that these experiments were conducted in the past quite a while ago (1967). "Delgado, in a series of experiments terrifying in their human potential, implanted electrodes in the skull of a bull. Waving a red cape, Delgado provoked the animal to charge. Then, with a signal emitted from a tiny hand-held radio transmitter, he made the beast turn aside in mid-lunge and trot docilely away.28 He has [also] been able to "play" monkeys and cats like "little electronic toys" that yawn, hide, fight, play, mate and go to sleep.." If you think about the technological advancements from 1967 compared to 2004. We need to look at the things people are studying, and make sure that we don't end up all being manchurian candidates.

As Opposed to letting people use electronics in their brain's for their own personal benefits(Newer), using electronic-brain-devices for a third-party's maniacal ideas/benefits is nothing new Jose Delgado's ( experiments had some weird conceptions/motives/ideas. Heres The Chip Picture. If you glance at the article you will see that these experiments were conducted in the past quite a while ago (1967). "Delgado, in a series of experiments terrifying in their human potential, implanted electrodes in the skull of a bull. Waving a red cape, Delgado provoked the animal to charge. Then, with a signal emitted from a tiny hand-held radio transmitter, he made the beast turn aside in mid-lunge and trot docilely away.28 He has [also] been able to "play" monkeys and cats like "little electronic toys" that yawn, hide, fight, play, mate and go to sleep.." If you think about the technological advancements from 1967 compared to 2004. We need to look at the things people are studying, and make sure that we don't end up all being manchurian candidates.

Shoot your local politicians and establish anarchy.

If only it were that easy.

If every politician, every vestage of the state, disappeared overnight, what would your neighbors do? Either they'd all get together and elect new a new, somewhat representative, government right away; or the biggest, baddest, best-armed among them (or someone clever enough to get the biggest, baddest, etcetera, to work for them) would take over and rule warlord-style.

Anarchy is unstable, because right now human beings aren't ready for it.

As Kerry Thornley put it in Zenarchy, "Universal Enlightenment a prerequisite to abolition of the State, after which the State will inevitably vanish. Or - that failing - nobody will give a damn."

Really? I've always thought that mind-control involved cranial surgery.

Actually in Kyllo v. U.S. SCOTUS made a VERY broad generalization not at all a specific ruling on thermal imaging.

Held: Where, as here, the Government uses a device that is not in general public use, to explore details of a private home that would previously have been unknowable without physical intrusion, the surveillance is a Fourth Amendment "search," and is presumptively unreasonable without a warrant.
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Giving money to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to adolescents.

Until universal enlightenment makes the state non-existant or irrelevant, government is inevitable. Given government, taxes are inevitable. Some adjustments are possible, but by and large griping about the fact that governments tax and spend, while a popular pasttime, is about as useful as griping about continental drift. ("Did you know that every year China and Russia get closer to the United States? Stop continental drift now!")

You can have them print & bind pretty much any CIA/FBI/Special Forces/Army/etc manual that's been declassified or released under the FOIA (Freedom of Information Act). I took a philisophy class @ Georgetown Univeristy one summer, and the prof was a very young man with a goatee etc. The last part of the course was about Anarchy, and he told us: "go to the GPO building on pennsylvania avenue and if you ask for the US Army Manual on Improvised Munitions it'll cost you $10(?) and they'll bind it for you right there."

There's also Unconventional Warfare Devices & Techniques, Incendiary Devices & Techniques, Boobytraps, Grenades & Pyrotechnics, Explosive Preparations & Formulas... You get the picture? These are the manuals that Spec Ops use when they go to countries and train up insurgents, armies, other special forces, etc.
Anti-Polygraph stuff
Teh CIA Facts
More bout Mind Control Etc

here's and idea, go to amazon.com and search for works by the "U.S. Army". You'll get all kinds of garbage with some fun stuff thrown into the mix. Most of the manuals are boring as shit to read, but they have some very interesting stuff about psyops (psychological operations, you want really scary, go read some Rand Corporation publications) making your own guns/bombs/grenades/anything you need to kill, harass, demoralize, terrorize... Special Forces soldiers (and them sumbitches in the CIA) are some of the most dangerous people around. One man armies, men capable of raising armies, destabilizing gov'ts, and raping your mind, all in one!

Here is an interesting article on the "other" uses for television and other broadcast public media.
It contains quite a bit of history on the subject.

http://www.mindcontrolforums.com/british-media-psy chologicalwarfare.htm

Food for thought anyway :)

Pictures of the original prototype trials.

I would fear for us all if we ever attempted "world government". As a race, we're not even qualified to run a government, never mind a national one, never mind a global one.

Like all other levels of government, world government is unavoidable. Either one is organized, or a de facto arrangement of rule by the strongest prevails.

Imagine what would happen if your city or town was suddenly and magically cut off from the rest of the world, and all traces of existing government vanished. Would you remain without government? Heck no. Anarchy is unstable. Either you'd all get together and vote some person or group into authority, or the strongest, toughest, meanest SOB around would take charge, or some combination thereof (SOB in charge with an selected/elected body providing some moderation.)

Universal Enlightenment is a prerequisite to abolition of the State, after which the State will inevitably vanish. Or - that failing - nobody will give a damn. But until we're all enlightened, government is inevitable.

Same applies to world government. The strongest, toughest, meanest SOB around has taken charge. The world government exists, and it is the United States. The U.N. just provides a little moderation.

- Weapons against the mind: Electromagnetic Weapons and Mind Control from CNN's Special Assignment, anno 1985 (which litterally tells: in Soviet Russia, weapons control YOU)

- Controlling Robots with the Mind

- ... and an old Slashdot article :-)

Democracy is a horrible form of government--it's two wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner.

If we returned to a Republic, and focused on limiting the powers of the government instead of a consistent regime of overtaxation, then I don't think this would be as much of a problem.

Methinks perhaps you do not understand what a republic means. Being a republic has nothing to do with limiting the powers of the government; it just means that we have representatives. (In our democratic republic, they're elected; in the old Roman republic, they were they heads of the most powerful families.) Our republic just means that the two wolves and the sheep vote for a hyena to decide whats for dinner.

What limits the powers of government (at least in theory) is that we have a constitutional democratic republic.

It doesn't matter what a thief does with the money, if he takes it without permission it's theft.

If you eat dinner at a restaurant, and try to leave without paying the bill, and the restaurant uses force (say, by getting a cop to hold you until you pay) to make you pay, is that theft? Nope. You owed a debt, the money was no longer yours. Defining what's "yours" and what's "mine" and what's "his" is far from trivial.

If you - directly or indirectly - enjoy the benefit of various public goods, you incur a debt.

We'll elimiate taxes when we can eliminate government. As a Zenarchist, I look forward to that day, but I know it's a long long long way off. Meanwhile, might as well render onto Caesar what is Caesar's.

There were estimates a few years ago that the capacity was over two million. Part of me doesn't want to know what their capacity is currently.

The camps were set up as a part of operation Rex84 (search) in the 80s, established on the reasoning that if a mass exodus of illegal aliens crossed the Mexican/US border, they would be quickly rounded up and detained in detention centers by FEMA.

Now that the Patriot Act and Patriot Act II move to establish anyone that breaks any law as a potential terrorist, it makes you wonder what they've got planned...

There's a lot of info on the net about these and other operations. A lot of the websites play the 'paranoid' card a little too strongly (*cough* alex jones*cough*), but I highly recommended you check out available info!

Some links:

http://www.apfn.org/apfn/camps.htm
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/pages/camps.html
http://www.mindcontrolforums.com/concentration.htm
http://www.c0balt.com/egg/insane.shtml

I'm not trolling, this is some serious shit, America!

Where do you see yourself in the Political Spectrum?

Until we get past the idea of a "spectrum", we're stuck.

Politics is a multi dimensional space.

Plot me somewhere between the Greens and the Libertarians. I often self-indentify as a libertarian socialist. If we get into theory, I'll talk about Zenarchy :

ZEN is Meditation. ARCHY is Social Order. ZENARCHY is the Social Order which springs from Meditation.

As a doctrine, it holds Universal Enlightenment a prerequisite to abolition of the State, after which the State will inevitably vanish. Or - that failing - nobody will give a damn.

I'm in favor of personal liberty, including the repeal of laws against drug use, prostitution, or pretty much any act between consenting competent adults. I advocate economics based on the free exchange of labor rather than state-created property, ecological protection, the right to self-defense including the RKBA, smaller government, private property as a means of promoting personal freedom rather than as a core value, and the recognition of natural resources as the common property of all humans present and future.

I advocate smaller and decentralized government. But I recognize that government is a vector quantity, with direction as well as magnitude - to say you want a smaller government is no more informative than to say you want to drive at 50 mph instead of 100 mph. It's a safer journey, but which direction are you headed?

I want a smaller military and a less agressive foreign policy, dedicated to defending the U.S. rather than to imperialism and neocolonialism. Maybe even, as the Founders intended, eliminating the standing army.

I believe that we must see that everyone has basic access to basic necessities of food, shelter, and public health, that the cost of this is our ante for organizing as a civilization (as well as fundamental to our long-term self interest).

This combination seems to confuse the hell out of many people. "You sound like a liberal! Oh, but wait, you're against gun control!" (Gun control isn't a left/right issue, think of the Black Panthers and Mulford Act gun control law Reagan signed as California governor. And how is leaving the police, the agents of "The Man", the only ones with guns a liberal idea?) "You sound like a libertarian! But you say you're against capitalism?" ("Libertarian" was orginally a socialist term. Captialism requires a large, strong government to create and enforce property rights on economic resources. "Anarcho-capitalism" is inherently contradictory.)

Why don't you just go all the way and put A WIRE IN YOUR HEAD ?!!!

Why go for half measures?
Why don't I just go get A WIRE IN MY HEAD?!!