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Daft thing is you can make data islands work with FF no bother:

http://www.mozilla.org/xmlextras/xmldataislands/

Try using Firefox with the User Agent Switcher installed and set to IE6.

Odds are fair to good that the only reason you can't connect to a given site is because a line of code explicitly denies all browsers except IE6.

It's a troll, but I'll bite and see if I can get a free worm.

This is just wrong. A bit of research (http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/asa/, http://planet.mozilla.org/ shows that the developers, including Asa, routinely listen to users and often ask for comments. And from the point of view of an insider (bugs I've reported: 55), developers respond quickly and helpfully to anyone who isn't wasting their time, and even those who are but do it in a curteous way.

A few other specific points: the Mozilla Corporation is not for-profit. Nothing about a corporation says it has to be. It merely falls under business laws, making it easier for other businesses to interact with Mozilla.

And with respect to bug 18574, it's the one about MNG support. To quote a few things from the bug:

However, MNG inclusion won't even be considered until there is true reason to include it. According to some numbers I believe I saw at libmng or png.org/pub/mng, the number of MNG/JNG images ranges in the hundreds or the low thousands. Period. Worldwide. Ever. Almost all of these images are also set up as testcases, not as practical media on sites.

Its not something that'll likely change going forward, unless MNG support is really low cost (i.e. not 200-300k). At 50-80k the case becomes stronger, of course. The "if you support it, they will come" argument is weak, since we did support this for three years and the content didn't come.

It's a troll, but I'll bite and see if I can get a free worm.

This is just wrong. A bit of research (http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/asa/, http://planet.mozilla.org/ shows that the developers, including Asa, routinely listen to users and often ask for comments. And from the point of view of an insider (bugs I've reported: 55), developers respond quickly and helpfully to anyone who isn't wasting their time, and even those who are but do it in a curteous way.

A few other specific points: the Mozilla Corporation is not for-profit. Nothing about a corporation says it has to be. It merely falls under business laws, making it easier for other businesses to interact with Mozilla.

And with respect to bug 18574, it's the one about MNG support. To quote a few things from the bug:

However, MNG inclusion won't even be considered until there is true reason to include it. According to some numbers I believe I saw at libmng or png.org/pub/mng, the number of MNG/JNG images ranges in the hundreds or the low thousands. Period. Worldwide. Ever. Almost all of these images are also set up as testcases, not as practical media on sites.

Its not something that'll likely change going forward, unless MNG support is really low cost (i.e. not 200-300k). At 50-80k the case becomes stronger, of course. The "if you support it, they will come" argument is weak, since we did support this for three years and the content didn't come.

..TOO LAAAATE! Deer Park already fixed that!!

oh, wait..

Mozilla community has a separate Bugzilla entry at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=76162 . However, sites tested (SSL2 turned of via Tools menu) after May '05 are listed to http://wiki.mozilla.org/Necko:SSL_v2_Sites Wiki page.

Mozilla community has a separate Bugzilla entry at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=76162 . However, sites tested (SSL2 turned of via Tools menu) after May '05 are listed to http://wiki.mozilla.org/Necko:SSL_v2_Sites Wiki page.

I checked with Bugzilla (no link from /. allowed)

That doesn't means you can't put it here so other people can contribute: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22896 8

You know, this is what opensource is for - you can help and fix it yourself, the mozilla foundation may not have enought programmers to solve those bugs...

The link posted in that site won't display the problem -- visit the wiki to display the problem (https://register.btinternet.com/ is a current offender).

Mozilla isn't really in a position to be telling banks what to support. The banks will just block them out again if their browser doesn't do what they want. (Yes, I know, you can spoof your user agent string, but not everyone will do this)

In the past, it's been the other way around, they had to support autocomplete=off (an IE tag) due to insistence from banks: (bugzilla link)

in the mean time you may want to try the FireFox extension Greasemonkey.

Greasemonkey will probably let you do it.

http://www.mozilla.org/projects/xpcom/xpcom-standa lone.html

http://www.mozilla.org/why/framework.html

Greasemonkey
Script to auto add mirrordot and coralcache links to stories.

Seriously, stop whining and take matters into your own hands.

It sounds like we need to submit a new bug: Icon needs to look more chicken-like. ;-)

Hi there Moto,

I agree that the license change will be good for Sun. Workplace using OO derived code without the improvements going back to Sun was wrong, but SISSL did allow that.

As for dual licensing being a messy, confusing business; I'm not so sure. MySQL, Trolltech (the makers of QT) Mozilla all use dual licenses.

Trolltech puts it best:

This is how it works: In return for the advantages you realize from using a Trolltech product to create your application, we require that you do one of the following:

  Either: Contribute to the continued development of the product by purchasing commercial licenses from Trolltech. This option secures you the right to distribute your application under the license terms of your choice.
  Or: Contribute to the Open Source community by placing your application under an Open Source license (e.g. the GPL). This option secures all users the rights to obtain the application's full source code, modify it, and redistribute it.

Is this what you're thinking of?

I think this is just what you're looking for.

Now THIS is funny - from the File::Monk man page:


THE UGLY TRUTH LAID BARE ^

Extracted from mork.pl

In Netscape Navigator 1.0 through 4.0, the history.db file was just a Berkeley DBM file. You could trivially bind to it from Perl, and pull out the URLs and last-access time. In Mozilla, this has been replaced with a "Mork" database for which no tools exist.

Let me make it clear that McCusker is a complete barking lunatic. This is just about the stupidest file format I've ever seen.

              http://www.mozilla.org/mailnews/arch/mork/primer.t xt
              http://jwz.livejournal.com/312657.html
              http://www.jwz.org/doc/mailsum.html
              http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=241438

In brief, let's count its sins:

        * Two different numerical namespaces that overlap.
        * It can't decide what kind of character-quoting syntax to use: Backslash? Hex encoding with dollar-sign?
        * C++ line comments are allowed sometimes, but sometimes // is just a pair of characters in a URL.
        * It goes to all this serious compression effort (two different string-interning hash tables) and then writes out Unicode strings without using UTF-8: writes out the unpacked wchar_t characters!
        * Worse, it hex-encodes each wchar_t with a 3-byte encoding, meaning the file size will be 3x or 6x (depending on whether whchar_t is 2 bytes or 4 bytes.)
        * It masquerades as a "textual" file format when in fact it's just another binary-blob file, except that it represents all its magic numbers in ASCII. It's not human-readable, it's not hand-editable, so the only benefit there is to the fact that it uses short lines and doesn't use binary characters is that it makes the file bigger. Oh wait, my mistake, that isn't actually a benefit at all.

Pure comedy.

Now THIS is funny - from the File::Monk man page:


THE UGLY TRUTH LAID BARE ^

Extracted from mork.pl

In Netscape Navigator 1.0 through 4.0, the history.db file was just a Berkeley DBM file. You could trivially bind to it from Perl, and pull out the URLs and last-access time. In Mozilla, this has been replaced with a "Mork" database for which no tools exist.

Let me make it clear that McCusker is a complete barking lunatic. This is just about the stupidest file format I've ever seen.

              http://www.mozilla.org/mailnews/arch/mork/primer.t xt
              http://jwz.livejournal.com/312657.html
              http://www.jwz.org/doc/mailsum.html
              http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=241438

In brief, let's count its sins:

        * Two different numerical namespaces that overlap.
        * It can't decide what kind of character-quoting syntax to use: Backslash? Hex encoding with dollar-sign?
        * C++ line comments are allowed sometimes, but sometimes // is just a pair of characters in a URL.
        * It goes to all this serious compression effort (two different string-interning hash tables) and then writes out Unicode strings without using UTF-8: writes out the unpacked wchar_t characters!
        * Worse, it hex-encodes each wchar_t with a 3-byte encoding, meaning the file size will be 3x or 6x (depending on whether whchar_t is 2 bytes or 4 bytes.)
        * It masquerades as a "textual" file format when in fact it's just another binary-blob file, except that it represents all its magic numbers in ASCII. It's not human-readable, it's not hand-editable, so the only benefit there is to the fact that it uses short lines and doesn't use binary characters is that it makes the file bigger. Oh wait, my mistake, that isn't actually a benefit at all.

Pure comedy.

moz uses mork for its history, which is a baroque nightmare to parse. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24143 8

Link to the Moz 1.5 faq
http://www.mozilla.org/start/1.5/faq/profile.html

7. Profiles & Backup

Look how much I saved the tax payers. And don't mod this as insiteful or informative. Going for funny.

Implying that Firefox, which is open source, hides any data is a lie. Click the friendly Getting Started link on Firefox's toolbar. Click the Developers tab. Click Get the Source. Click Download. Click the Firefox 1.0.6 bzip2 link. If you can't find someone who can read code, you aren't qualified to make any statements in court about the meaning of the data that code wrote.

Implying that Firefox, which is open source, hides any data is a lie. Click the friendly Getting Started link on Firefox's toolbar. Click the Developers tab. Click Get the Source. Click Download. Click the Firefox 1.0.6 bzip2 link. If you can't find someone who can read code, you aren't qualified to make any statements in court about the meaning of the data that code wrote.

Implying that Firefox, which is open source, hides any data is a lie. Click the friendly Getting Started link on Firefox's toolbar. Click the Developers tab. Click Get the Source. Click Download. Click the Firefox 1.0.6 bzip2 link. If you can't find someone who can read code, you aren't qualified to make any statements in court about the meaning of the data that code wrote.

Implying that Firefox, which is open source, hides any data is a lie. Click the friendly Getting Started link on Firefox's toolbar. Click the Developers tab. Click Get the Source. Click Download. Click the Firefox 1.0.6 bzip2 link. If you can't find someone who can read code, you aren't qualified to make any statements in court about the meaning of the data that code wrote.

Implying that Firefox, which is open source, hides any data is a lie. Click the friendly Getting Started link on Firefox's toolbar. Click the Developers tab. Click Get the Source. Click Download. Click the Firefox 1.0.6 bzip2 link. If you can't find someone who can read code, you aren't qualified to make any statements in court about the meaning of the data that code wrote.

Oh come on, it's nearly impossible to find the URL history! Ctrl-H is a very, very complex cracking method.


Good job. Now you've flagged yourself and the FBI is undoubtedly on its way. Giving away what is most likely a National Secrect! Please don't let them look here.

The context search plugin allows you to highlight any text and the right click menu allows you to search in any of the engines you have installed in the search box. https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php ?id=240

It exists.

You didn't look very hard then. Super DragAndGo has been an 'official' plugin from Mozilla.org for at least a year.

https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php ?application=firefox&numpg=500&id=137

I used MyIE2/Maxthon for a couple years before Firefox finally won me over. Every feature I used in MyIE is available in Firefox. MyIE is still insecure IE at it's core.

Don't worry. I found another download site here: http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/ and, in case that goes down, here: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/

In case the main site is slashdotted, you can also download the program in question here.

Next stable release of Firefox, 1.5, will have fast back. It is already checked in and turned on. See the tracking bug: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27478 4

Nightly suite builds are at http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/n ightly/latest-trunk/

Goto molliza and search for "session manager". Jeez, how hard is that?

You want me to get you some milk and cookies now too?

I understand what you mean :)

But unlike the PS3 or Xbox 3...60 you can already get your hands on this feature.

Mozilla.org is currently prepping the next full release of Firefox, the one that includes this feature and test versions can be downloaded from http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nig htly/

The branch builds are frozen for features and getting more stable by the day. However if this is not your style you'll have to hang in for a bit longer until the official FF 1.5 is released.

But either way you'll have drag&drop reordering of tabs in Firefox before you'll see a PS3 ;)

Nope! You're the only one. I still use the Mozilla Suite. I hate Firefox. lol

But yeah... They've offcially abandoned the suite, no more new builds. However, the suit is still being developed by the Seamonkey group. Check it out!

http://www.mozilla.org/projects/seamonkey/

Same browser, just a different name.

And I use Opera here as well. It's a great little browser! Quite useful! I really like the password wand thingie. It can remember multiple user names for the same site.

I've been a licensed user for years now, but thanks to this free key offer, now I can run Opera on a couple of my other computers legally and I picked up a couple for the family too. ;)

Tab Mix Plus for Firefox:1.0-Dearpark. Totally Rad!

https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php ?id=176&vid=797

I should really check for extensions more often. NoScript is just what I need.

Once you have the Adobe SVG viewer it should work just fine with Internet Explorer.

On the other hand, SVG is included in the development Firefox version and should be available in the next major release (1.5 ? i think they're skipping 1.1-1.4 ). More info at this FAQ.

Anyway, it's very funny how Adobe is into this SVG hype at adobe.com/svg for a long time now, and Adobe and Macromedia are basically the same company.

Maybe the whole thing is intended to promote SVG, I mean this comes from (pretty much) the same guys that are giving that EULA:

• Eudora - OS X and Windows
• Mulberry - Linux, OS X, Windows
• Thunderbird - Linux, OS X, Windows
• Mozilla - Linux, OS X, Windows

• Eudora - OS X and Windows
• Mulberry - Linux, OS X, Windows
• Thunderbird - Linux, OS X, Windows
• Mozilla - Linux, OS X, Windows

Install these:

pdf download
https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php ?id=636&application=firefox

flashblock
https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php ?id=433

Install these:

pdf download
https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php ?id=636&application=firefox

flashblock
https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php ?id=433

... And we will have one extension to thank for never seeing a Flash ad.

(OK, maybe two)

... And we will have one extension to thank for never seeing a Flash ad.

(OK, maybe two)

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