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My band's music from mp3.com...hurry up!

But to stay ontopic, uh, I'm sure every artist, like ourselves, has their music served on numerous sites. So why does anyone care if the copies that are on mp3.com are erased?

I've never complained about moderation before, but I've never (as far as I know) been modded down as a troll. A troll is a post designed solely to piss people off. This is just a factual note, that this story was posted last week:
mp3.com Acquired by CNet Posted by CmdrTaco on Friday November 14, @09:43PM
from the things-are-getting-interesting dept.
bmarklein writes "Looks like mp3.com is no more, at least not in its current form. According to an announcement on an mp3.com message board, CNet has acquired assets of mp3.com. The statement is very vague, but it says that following the redirection of the mp3.com domain on December 2nd, "all content will be deleted from [mp3.com's] servers." However they do plan to eventually introduce "new and enhanced artist services"."

In no particular order: Phoebe Legere Phoebe Legere Elvis Sinatra Elvis Sinatra Eve Selis Eve Selis Lenny Hat Lenny Hat Lothlorien Lothlorien Robin Hackett Robin Hackett Irish & Celtic Songs - Ourselves Ourselves

In no particular order: Phoebe Legere Phoebe Legere Elvis Sinatra Elvis Sinatra Eve Selis Eve Selis Lenny Hat Lenny Hat Lothlorien Lothlorien Robin Hackett Robin Hackett Irish & Celtic Songs - Ourselves Ourselves

In no particular order: Phoebe Legere Phoebe Legere Elvis Sinatra Elvis Sinatra Eve Selis Eve Selis Lenny Hat Lenny Hat Lothlorien Lothlorien Robin Hackett Robin Hackett Irish & Celtic Songs - Ourselves Ourselves

In no particular order: Phoebe Legere Phoebe Legere Elvis Sinatra Elvis Sinatra Eve Selis Eve Selis Lenny Hat Lenny Hat Lothlorien Lothlorien Robin Hackett Robin Hackett Irish & Celtic Songs - Ourselves Ourselves

In no particular order: Phoebe Legere Phoebe Legere Elvis Sinatra Elvis Sinatra Eve Selis Eve Selis Lenny Hat Lenny Hat Lothlorien Lothlorien Robin Hackett Robin Hackett Irish & Celtic Songs - Ourselves Ourselves

In no particular order: Phoebe Legere Phoebe Legere Elvis Sinatra Elvis Sinatra Eve Selis Eve Selis Lenny Hat Lenny Hat Lothlorien Lothlorien Robin Hackett Robin Hackett Irish & Celtic Songs - Ourselves Ourselves

In no particular order: Phoebe Legere Phoebe Legere Elvis Sinatra Elvis Sinatra Eve Selis Eve Selis Lenny Hat Lenny Hat Lothlorien Lothlorien Robin Hackett Robin Hackett Irish & Celtic Songs - Ourselves Ourselves

That and they don't expose shit besides a file name. Unless somebody is looking for you exact song, they aren't going to know you exist.

Last time to plug Fucked up shit

mp3.com Acquired by CNet
Posted by CmdrTaco on Friday November 14, @09:43PM
from the things-are-getting-interesting dept.
bmarklein writes "Looks like mp3.com is no more, at least not in its current form. According to an announcement on an mp3.com message board, CNet has acquired assets of mp3.com. The statement is very vague, but it says that following the redirection of the mp3.com domain on December 2nd, "all content will be deleted from [mp3.com's] servers." However they do plan to eventually introduce "new and enhanced artist services"."

Astral Projection sounds good, thanks for the tip. Let me return the favor by recommending Trance Control. Most of their tracks are more melodic than the four of Astral Projection's that I've just listened too, but there's plenty of hardcore 'twitchy' stuff like Astral Projection in their mix as well. Gothenburg Sound is good, Vision of Mind is Awesome, and Beyond 303 and Atomic Dance Explosion are likely to turn up in soundtracks.

Trance Control is about to pass 10,000,000 total plays.

Remember that mp3.com got sued into the ground by the 5 big music labels for their my.mp3.com locker service that cached mainstream garbage online in mp3 format. Then Vivendi/Universal (same universal that sues them for a couple hundred million dollars) bought mp3.com, fired Robinson, then fired their own French CEO (JMM) and sat and watched mp3.com rot to its current demise.

It is pretty sad to see them go in that mp3.com was run completely on linux and open source software.

Read Tim O'Reily's impression of the old mp3.com

I've had material on MP3.com for several years now. Never paid for the service, so I had less to lose than those that took the Gold Membership, etc. But I still don't understand the griping.
The era of free multimedia serving is over. There's just too much overhead to justify providing that much free bandwidth.
For those of you who bitching about MP3.com, just accept this unfortunate reality.

Who's been screwed? OK, maybe the folks that signed up for Gold Membership. But it seems like it's pointless to bitch about what's happened - it's all just business.

It's not the same as being ripped off by your producer [Beach Boys and countless others], or cheated out of payment by a venue after a performance [an ever-present risk in a business rife with unscrupulous people].

There's always an element of risk, whatever endeavour you undertake. There's no guarantee that a party with whom you have entered into a contract and paid money for future services will not go out of business, or sell out to another party. That's just a fact of life.

Fortunately, there are still plenty of free and low-cost music-hosting alternatives [sorry, I haven't checked ALL these links recently, but most should still be good. I am a lazy sod.]:


AMP3.com
AmpCast
Audiogalaxy
efolk
etree.org (SHN)
Listen.com
Lycos Music Search
MP3.com
nzmp3
peoplesound
SoundClick
stationMP3
gdlive.com
FurtherNet
CD Baby
IUMA
BeSonic
My Local Bands
SoundClick
VITAMINIC
archive.org etree listing (SHN's)
emusic
listensmart


My music (if you're curious, totally bored, and looking for something to listen to).

What exactly are they buying? They don't get the address, they don't get the music, they are left with what exactly? A list of suckers dumb enough to register for spam?

Vivandi ripped the heart out of mp3.com, now they are burring it. Here is a nice old site Note all the nice downloads. Good luck finding downloads on newer sites, and don't forget to register for more great spam when you find one. What total suckage. Sure, that Vivandi won't pay their artists is not a big surprise either.

I know they didn't spell it out, but it's pretty obvious. As Steve Job's said, I'm not sure why anyone would want to get on the bandwagon, it's a losing propisition. Apple is leading everyone in this area, and losing their shirts.

Anyway, it's kind of sad that they are going away. Honestly, since Vivendi bought the site, it lost most of its charm. I joined mp3.com in the beginning. Posted tons of song. It was a great site for amateur musicians and folks on the fringe. As a songwriter, it was a good place to park tunes and have folks listen to them. But with the purchase by V/U and the limitations (three songs, no pay for play, etc...) the shine quickly faded. Sad to see it go, but I really think that it died a long time ago, just that no one told them to shut off the lights. Gotta make sure I take a screen shot for old time sakes.

http://mp3.com/jford

I thought the OSS world was fervently against screenshots?

Links to All Gangsta Geek Rappers

I'm not surprised by this release. I would think that there is a massive amount of built-up demand among Windows users for the goodness and convenience that is iPod and iTunes.

Personally, I'd love to be able to scan music online and get what I want. Until now, that usually meant some website or some questionable methods. Both options don't really float my boat 'cause it isn't a service designed for the distribution and enjoyment of music, as in from finding it, obtaining it, listening to it, and storing it for future listenings using a single method.

Now that Apple has show the world that not all online music listerns are 1337 k1dd13z, maybe we can continue with these developments, and we can stop hearing some organizations whine.

I thought I'd do something more then my usual support independent (or independently minded) artist. There are a ton of artists out there not caught up in the whole piracy debate (since the rise of the net WAY more then most people imagine). CD's at the mall are no longer safe. The industry/distribution giants that have been hand feeding us are no longer (where they ever?) interested in fair practices.

But this isn't really that big a deal, because you can just type your way down to:

mp3.com
or
emusic.com
or
umbrellamusic.com
or
listen.com
or
mp3it.com
or
iuma.com
or
grageband.com
or
besonic.com
or
zebox.com

And it just keeps getting bigger and better out there. Really the only thing that needs to happen is we need to get comfortable with buying online artists. Maybe Rolling Stone will do an online section? *shrug*

Although I probably have a very different taste then you we overlap in that we're interested in "obscure" things where "obscure" means that it didnt meet the 10 or 20 releases that label XYZ connected with record company ZYX have envisioned.. per month.

This was really the promise of something like mp3.com. It had an easy and free way of making some of your work available and because it got big it goit "obscure" communities also.

Mmm, well, then came Universal.... :(

I still have Ricin Radio! stationas a parking lot but I quit actively participating when they removed the option for listeners to listen to a 128 kbit stream (could still do it but have to click one by one or make own playlist, most users don't know how).

Shame though, I was always somewhere in the top 20 of their alternative sections merely because of great music that the bands themselves sent me.
I've been at #1 more than once.

If one thing it made me realise that as soon if you give rights to *your* work away you're gonna be screwed and if you don't you'll be fended off.

Sad. I loved my mp3.com station. I got great great music right from the source. No one except for a -- usually growing at the time -- few knew it but it was better than most crap you hear on the clear^H^H^H^H^Hradio.

Since everyone in this thread seems to enjoy making fun of ISPs for associating their service with "faster music downloads", maybe you should consider that not all music on the internet is being illegaly distributed. Take for example mp3.com and some radio stations that stream their broadcasts of local artists.

get over it. Hey, I got an idea! How about instead of ranting on /. about your RIAA woes you should try BOYCOTTING the purchase of cds altogether and peruse the the internet for music you like. I'm sure you'll find some artists who distribute their own music besides mp3.com, and they'll give you free samples, too. No loss, no worries.

Its not that hard. Pick a day 1-2 months ahead for the boycott and advertise it EVERYWHERE. Open up photoshop or gimp and create a good graphic that people can put on their sites to advertise this date. Go to music usenet groups and post a message there. Hell, post a message on /. while your at it. Then wait.... If nothing happens, try again. I mean, RIAA has been breaking our backs for years, this is nothing new. Yet, years have passed and NOONE has organized a boycott. This tells me that YOU ARE ALL POSERS! Having said that, I dont want to hear anymore complaints until you get off your asses and do something. Thanks. :)

Is this record industry official unaware that there are legal music download sites?

I believe that touring is a good way for a band to earn their keep. The kind of touring you're talking about is for smaller bands who are still trying to get established; bigger bands could definitely stand to do more touring if they need to make up for napster-esque "losses".

Yes, I have toured, back when I had a garage band, King Lazy Bones. And it was hard and we made no money. But if I was making millions and only had to do one show a week, I'd choose that over my main gig any day.

Music studios have only the CD sales to offset the cost of making and promoting the CD.

Only because they can't figure out any other way to make a buck off their music.

But it isn't really "right" to download the music now is it? Downloading music for free is stealing.

You mean like mp3.com is illegal? And remember, the mother paid Kazaa for the service, so what is this "free" you're talking about?

The artists who created the music will have no incentive to keep creating music if they know everyone is just going to steal from them.

Yeah, nobody wrote any music before copyright law was created, right.

RIAA free music. I mean its funny they complain about their numbers dropping while attacking some of their most devoted fans.

On the other hand there are lots of musicians begging for exposure that are even willing to give their music away for free.

1sound.com
www.mp3.com
iuma.com

And it just goes on.

'Cos being able to download full albums can't possibly be legal, right?

AtomFilms
IFilm

Where's the free music (not "pirated", but legitimate)?

MP3.com
iRATE
FreeMusic
EMusic (okay, not free, but flat-rate and dirt cheap)

Where's the *value*?

That's up to you to decide, of course. But there's plenty of legitimate big content out there.

Should that read: "Now may be the time to stop cheating people and start paying for your music!"

I dunno... I have mixed feelings on the whole record industry thing. While I try to respect people's copyrights and don't use filesharing software, I don't like a lot of the record industry's practices, and so I don't have a whole lot of sympathy for them when they complain about people stealing music - especially when said people wind up purchasing that music if they like it.

That said, $19 is an outrageous price for a CD (that's generally what I saw at the Virgin Megastore the other day), and when I buy a CD, I want to be able to rip it onto my computer for easy access, or make Mix CD's or whatever. Copy protection is unfair, and at any rate looks like it's easily broken.

The solution to this isn't to steal the music; it's to start supporting the little guys who don't gouge you like the big labels do. After downloading a bunch of free songs by the Jazz-Electronica group Subthunk, I had good reason to buy their $11 CD from their website. MP3.com has some good, free music and cheap CD's if you're willing to do some looking, not to mention Ampcast and a bunch of other, similar download sites and independent labels.

I don't support posting copyrighted material on the Internet, but I do think that the RIAA should loosen up. The best way to get them to do that is to help the little guys give them a run for their money. It's been said before, but I'll say it again - vote with your wallet!

Should that read: "Now may be the time to stop cheating people and start paying for your music!"

I dunno... I have mixed feelings on the whole record industry thing. While I try to respect people's copyrights and don't use filesharing software, I don't like a lot of the record industry's practices, and so I don't have a whole lot of sympathy for them when they complain about people stealing music - especially when said people wind up purchasing that music if they like it.

That said, $19 is an outrageous price for a CD (that's generally what I saw at the Virgin Megastore the other day), and when I buy a CD, I want to be able to rip it onto my computer for easy access, or make Mix CD's or whatever. Copy protection is unfair, and at any rate looks like it's easily broken.

The solution to this isn't to steal the music; it's to start supporting the little guys who don't gouge you like the big labels do. After downloading a bunch of free songs by the Jazz-Electronica group Subthunk, I had good reason to buy their $11 CD from their website. MP3.com has some good, free music and cheap CD's if you're willing to do some looking, not to mention Ampcast and a bunch of other, similar download sites and independent labels.

I don't support posting copyrighted material on the Internet, but I do think that the RIAA should loosen up. The best way to get them to do that is to help the little guys give them a run for their money. It's been said before, but I'll say it again - vote with your wallet!

here

The days of the epic, themed rock and roll album are pretty much over.

One of the prime developers for this device has been talking about it in depth for a while over on the MP3.com forums.

The website does poorly reflect linux compatibility. According to Hugo the player sports a Java (and native Windows) interface via the Ethernet. It uses the same codebase as the Rio Reciever. It has a somewhat proprietary filesystem (for "stability" reasons) so it might be hard to pull the trick iPod uses like--using them as a portable hard disk.

Can't wait for the 40gb version.

One thing I'm sort of bothered about is the fact that 20gb = 20,000,000,000bytes. rather than 1000x1024x1024 or 1024x1024x1024. I guess DVDs are advertised with a similiarly quirked system and at least they mention the definition. Anyone know about the iPod?

If everyone started downloading legal music instead, we would make short work of the RIAA, because people would start buying CDs from indie bands, and seeing their shows, instead of enriching the major labels every time you buy a Britney or New Kids CD. The RIAA would also have no cause to complain - these music downloads are not copyright violations because the artists give you permission to download them.

Probably the best known site for downloading MP3s is of course MP3.com . See especially their genre index . Click the link. You will be quite astounded at how many genres there are.

Unfortunately the website usability of MP3.com is atrocious, and their streaming audio seems to be buggy - I can't get it to work in either Explorer or Mozilla. To get an MP3 file to download to your hard drive, you have to register, which I'm sure will result in merciless spamming. May I suggest registering with a throwaway email address from spamgourmet ?

The Open Directory Project has Bands and Artists and Styles indices. Not all the artists offer downloads, but the site says they list 48,000 artists and I imagine many of them offer downloads.

There are better sites for hosting MP3s than MP3.com. Some of them allow you to buy the band's CD from the same page as the MP3 download. Among them are The Internet Underground Music Archives, CDBaby, Epitonic.com, Lulu, SoundClick, Matador Records and insound .

Monotonik provides BitTorrents with zip files containing 60 to 100 MP3s apiece available here.

If you prefer the higher quality, patent-free Ogg Vorbis files you can find several download sites here . Ogg Vorbis players are available for many platforms - WinAmp will play them on Windows, and I understand iTunes on Mac OS X supports Ogg now. There are open source Linux ogg players and encoders, even an open source fixed-point decoders for embedded applications where the CPU doesn't have floating point hardware.

There are also peer-to-peer applications for distributing legal music. See Furthur Network and konspire[2b] .

Unfortunately, musicians are often not very good website designers, so poor usability is a significant obstacle to getting music directly from artists' websites. If you're a musician, and you'd like to know how you can improve your website so more people will download your music, please read my article If Indie Musicians Wanted Their Music Heard....

Finally, there is the problem of finding the music that's actually worth listening to. The labels do serve the (somewhat) legitimate purpose of picking out the good from the bad. But we can do that ourselves with legal downloads by using collaborative filtering, for example by downloading our music with iRATE, which you'll find at

If everyone started downloading legal music instead, we would make short work of the RIAA, because people would start buying CDs from indie bands, and seeing their shows, instead of enriching the major labels every time you buy a Britney or New Kids CD. The RIAA would also have no cause to complain - these music downloads are not copyright violations because the artists give you permission to download them.

Probably the best known site for downloading MP3s is of course MP3.com . See especially their genre index . Click the link. You will be quite astounded at how many genres there are.

Unfortunately the website usability of MP3.com is atrocious, and their streaming audio seems to be buggy - I can't get it to work in either Explorer or Mozilla. To get an MP3 file to download to your hard drive, you have to register, which I'm sure will result in merciless spamming. May I suggest registering with a throwaway email address from spamgourmet ?

The Open Directory Project has Bands and Artists and Styles indices. Not all the artists offer downloads, but the site says they list 48,000 artists and I imagine many of them offer downloads.

There are better sites for hosting MP3s than MP3.com. Some of them allow you to buy the band's CD from the same page as the MP3 download. Among them are The Internet Underground Music Archives, CDBaby, Epitonic.com, Lulu, SoundClick, Matador Records and insound .

Monotonik provides BitTorrents with zip files containing 60 to 100 MP3s apiece available here.

If you prefer the higher quality, patent-free Ogg Vorbis files you can find several download sites here . Ogg Vorbis players are available for many platforms - WinAmp will play them on Windows, and I understand iTunes on Mac OS X supports Ogg now. There are open source Linux ogg players and encoders, even an open source fixed-point decoders for embedded applications where the CPU doesn't have floating point hardware.

There are also peer-to-peer applications for distributing legal music. See Furthur Network and konspire[2b] .

Unfortunately, musicians are often not very good website designers, so poor usability is a significant obstacle to getting music directly from artists' websites. If you're a musician, and you'd like to know how you can improve your website so more people will download your music, please read my article If Indie Musicians Wanted Their Music Heard....

Finally, there is the problem of finding the music that's actually worth listening to. The labels do serve the (somewhat) legitimate purpose of picking out the good from the bad. But we can do that ourselves with legal downloads by using collaborative filtering, for example by downloading our music with iRATE, which you'll find at

Probably the best known site for downloading MP3s is of course MP3.com. See especially their genre index. Click the link. You will be quite astounded at how many genres there are.

Unfortunately the website usability of MP3.com is atrocious, and their streaming audio seems to be buggy - I can't get it to work in either Explorer or Mozilla. To get an MP3 file to download to your hard drive, you have to register, which I'm sure will result in merciless spamming. May I suggest registering with a throwaway email address from spamgourmet?

The Open Directory Project has Bands and Artists and Styles indices. Not all the artists offer downloads, but the site says they list 48,000 artists and I imagine many of them offer downloads.

Better sites for hosting MP3's than MP3.com are Epitonic.com and insound.

If you prefer the higher quality, patent-free Ogg Vorbis files you can find several download sites here. Ogg Vorbis players are available for many platforms - WinAmp will play them on Windows, and I understand iTunes on Mac OS X supports Ogg now. There are open source Linux ogg players and encoders, even an open source fixed-point decoders for embedded applications where the CPU doesn't have floating point hardware.

There are also peer-to-peer applications for distributing legal music. See Furthur Network and konspire[2b].

I'm sure if more people availed themselves of the wide variety of music available for free download, we will make short work of both the RIAA and ClearChannel. Our lives would also be richer for it.

Probably the best known site for downloading MP3s is of course MP3.com. See especially their genre index. Click the link. You will be quite astounded at how many genres there are.

Unfortunately the website usability of MP3.com is atrocious, and their streaming audio seems to be buggy - I can't get it to work in either Explorer or Mozilla. To get an MP3 file to download to your hard drive, you have to register, which I'm sure will result in merciless spamming. May I suggest registering with a throwaway email address from spamgourmet?

The Open Directory Project has Bands and Artists and Styles indices. Not all the artists offer downloads, but the site says they list 48,000 artists and I imagine many of them offer downloads.

Better sites for hosting MP3's than MP3.com are Epitonic.com and insound.

If you prefer the higher quality, patent-free Ogg Vorbis files you can find several download sites here. Ogg Vorbis players are available for many platforms - WinAmp will play them on Windows, and I understand iTunes on Mac OS X supports Ogg now. There are open source Linux ogg players and encoders, even an open source fixed-point decoders for embedded applications where the CPU doesn't have floating point hardware.

There are also peer-to-peer applications for distributing legal music. See Furthur Network and konspire[2b].

I'm sure if more people availed themselves of the wide variety of music available for free download, we will make short work of both the RIAA and ClearChannel. Our lives would also be richer for it.

It could also be that a lot of the old time programmers (1989) still pretty much shared a belief in the capitalist system and saw software and music as something people would invest in and trade.

It is not unbelieveable that the creator a music format has different beliefs than the creator of a file sharing system. I would be more shocked to find that they believed the exact same thing. My experience is that just about everyone in the world thinks different thoughts...counter, of course, to Schopenhauer who thought there was only one conciousness.

BTW, I think the original MP3.com site that allowed all artists from every music genre to upload and share music was the best web site ever created. Too bad they wasted the company on a stupid copyright battle.

There are thousands of skilled musicians that offer their music free for download on the net. In many cases their music is by a fair span better than most commercial offerings.

I say, instead of giving these people and this bloated industry our money, let's give these young and skilled musicians a reason for playing: being listened to. When they release a CD, let's buy it directly from them, instead of funding indirectly these mammoth organikzations that exist only for their own benefit.

I'm currently listening to Machinae Supremacy, but there are enough of these musicians in every genre. You might be suprised about the incredible quality of their art. Mp3.com is a great place to start looking for free, legal, quality music.

Hopefully, when these people will replace nsyc, madonna, limp bizkit, they will remember that the sharing mentality put them there in the first place, not RIAA.

1) You can already do this now, and you don't need the RIAA to change their business practices to do it. Great sites like Acid Planet and MP3.com have tons of great music available. Like this shameless self promotion I collaborated with a buddy on.

2) I've always said if they're going to do this they should charge by the megabyte, not the song.

3) The problem is that it would completely change the landscape. People would stop thinking in terms of "Albums" and start thinking in terms of "Songs". The whole concept of making an album would go out the window. As soon as a song was done it would go up on the internet for sale. To sit on it would be costing them money.

This is a power thing. Only the RIAA will determine what music gets to be popular and what does not. Not the listeners.

I don't know about that... if the RIAA can scare people away from sharing major-label music on P2P networks, the main source of free music on the Internet will be independent musicians. If you buy the argument that free downloads promote CD sales, this might hurt the RIAA in the long run (although I don't think it'll be *that* big).

It's also important to notice that a lot of big-name bands - not just the little ones - are offering full-length, high-quality "previews" of songs - bands like Linkin Park, Jimmy Eat World, and The Dropkick Murphys. In the end, I think the main result of the RIAA trying to kill P2P is that people won't be able to get free music. P2P is certainly a nice way to "sample" music, but there are other ways to expose yourself to new music - anyone use MP3.com, Ampcast, IUMA, or Internet Radio? I don't think P2P is that big of a threat for record companies, and I don't like the way the RIAA is messing up people's finances for sharing MP3's - but at the same time, the bottom line is that people are stealing the information that the RIAA people's paychecks are based off of. What else would you expect them to do?

This is a power thing. Only the RIAA will determine what music gets to be popular and what does not. Not the listeners.

I don't know about that... if the RIAA can scare people away from sharing major-label music on P2P networks, the main source of free music on the Internet will be independent musicians. If you buy the argument that free downloads promote CD sales, this might hurt the RIAA in the long run (although I don't think it'll be *that* big).

It's also important to notice that a lot of big-name bands - not just the little ones - are offering full-length, high-quality "previews" of songs - bands like Linkin Park, Jimmy Eat World, and The Dropkick Murphys. In the end, I think the main result of the RIAA trying to kill P2P is that people won't be able to get free music. P2P is certainly a nice way to "sample" music, but there are other ways to expose yourself to new music - anyone use MP3.com, Ampcast, IUMA, or Internet Radio? I don't think P2P is that big of a threat for record companies, and I don't like the way the RIAA is messing up people's finances for sharing MP3's - but at the same time, the bottom line is that people are stealing the information that the RIAA people's paychecks are based off of. What else would you expect them to do?

They changed it so you can only give away 3 songs now. I don't check our mp3 site much so it took me a bit to notice.

If you pay mp3 $5/month or $15/month, they will give away up to 100 of your songs, will pay you royalties, and will answer your questions.

http://www.mp3.com/premium/

mp3.com, etree.org, iuma.org...

I would think that a more rational letter might prove somewhat more fruitful. Here's my letter to Mr. Hatch:

I just read a report on Yahoo! (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap /20030617/ap_on_hi_te/downloading_music) concerning some comments you made regarding the ability to destroy computers of individuals who download copyrighted material against the wishes of the author. You are actually suggesting the destruction of someone's private property for nothing other than an accusation of violation of copyright, a punishment which hardly fits the crime, not to mention that the "criminal" here doesn't have the benefit of due process or a trial by jury to determine if he actually committed a crime in the first place. I am also a published musician with a copyright registered in the US Copyright Office, and I find your comments regarding this situation as irreprehensible and expect much more from an elected representative of the people. While I appreciate your frustration with the problem of illegal use of copyrighted material, I remind you that someone accused of copyright infringement still is still innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. I sincerely hope you choose to make a more rational and informed judgement on issues like this in the future.

(And yes, I am a musician and copyright holder)

BUT... I'll bite, just in case some other retard sees what you posted and without thinking about it for half a second, assumes there's any validity to your imbecilic remark.

No one has said that there will be famous artists at CD Baby dot com; all that was said was that there is good music (fitting literally ANYone's taste) to be found on the site. Hell, if you could read at all, you would have seen that their tagline is

"CD Baby: a little CD store with the best new independent music."

If you hit the page expecting someone you've heard streaming over the airwaves, you might find them, but it's not likely, since most artists who have reached that scale of marketability don't need it. The web site is only useful to bands whose target audience is aware of the site's existence, and no single website is as popular or ubiquitous as radio. To find music, search for a genre of music you know you already like. Or search for a famous artist to whom lesser-known bands will claim similarities. Search for "metallica," and you'll find over 170 matches, but none of the matches actually ARE metallica. But I'll bet you a dollar that if you LIKE metallica, you'll find music there that ISN'T metallica, but you still like.

The fact that you can't find any of your "non-RIAA" artists on CD Baby doesn't prove a flippin' thing, except that none of YOUR friends have set up pages for their bands there. Do your buddies a favor, and TELL them to register there! And while they're at it, mp3.com as well. How long could it take? The only reason they'd regret it is if they truly suck, and no one that hit the page ever cared to download .mp3s or purchase CDs. Some music is targeted to a very narrow audience, and registering there will always sell a few more discs that if it wasn't listed on the site. If you really think it's a waste of your time, forget it, but I hope someday you realize just how closed your mind really is.

By the way, Einstein... there was a time when mp3.com was as small as CD Baby is right now.

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Rock you like a hurricane

Its true even the canadians think so. Listen to this funky mp3 by Three Dead Trolls in a Baggie, Our nerd buddies from up north eh?
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You can find a pantload of cheap music if you're willing to look past the Big5(tm) labels in order to find it.

I sell my CDs at around $6.99 a pop (the lowest mp3.com will let me go). I'm thinking of moving to CD Baby, in which case I imagine I'll sell them at about $.50 above cost. I don't plan to make any money off of my music, I'm more about exposure. You wouldn't believe the high you can get when someone you've never met comes up to you and tells you how much they enjoyed some of your music.

see, my big issue is that I can't stand to listen to anything less then 320 kbps (mp3), if not an 8- or 16-bit /22/44.1 KHz aiffs or wavs..

I really don't like the sound of the high-bitrate oggs, which is very unfortunate, since I very much want to support the format.

The worst part is, (other than ripping my own AACs from my DVDs/CDs and my own music) I can't hear what these supposedly-ripped-from-masters AACs sound like! You see, I live in the Great White North.

So if and when the service comes to Canada, I will be sure to check it out.
..hopefully they'll have higher bitrates available at that time.

The silver lining? I purchased a happy new 7200 rpm 80GB drive yesterday to replace my 30GB and complement my 60GB, with the purchase of a Firewire enclosure looming in the very near future for the drive without a home. Ahh.. room to breathe.

Last word? I don't want to search for AACs or mp4s on any file sharing programs, as I very much want to pay for good (sounding) music. If it must be compressed for the retail cost (argued for a loong time by the labels, I'm sure) to not soar to what we now see as stupid prices, then I pray that the available bitrate goes up and the service becomes available to a few more countries.