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Re: Too Late
The Times says he's worth at least $1.8 billion if not more, per FEC financials. But I guess that's not successful enough?
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Re:Clinton, Podesta, Putin and Trump
"Note that the liberal media and Hillary are entirely ignoring the attack, probably because they know they bear some of the blame."
That, sir, is a lie, and you are a liar.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/16/...
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10...
http://abcnews.go.com/US/north...
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Re:Fucking Yanks, world police.
Syria was a civil war incited by the Arab Spring and a dictator butting heads that we were keeping our collective noses out of for a decade.
Bullshit! https://www.washingtonpost.com...
Classified U.S. diplomatic cables show that the State Department has funneled as much as $6 million to the group since 2006 to operate the satellite channel and finance other activities inside Syria.
Once the fire finally ignited you added more fuel:
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06...Same sort of thing for Libya, Iraq[1] etc. The US has been helping to start fires and keep them ablaze for decades.
As for 9/11 guess who helped Osama bin Laden and gang grow in power: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/sou...
http://archive.is/1wddNOpen your eyes. These are all mainstream articles not conspiracy nut sites. You bunch are far from the good guys. Heck even the Russians have more legal justification for messing with Syria (the Syrian government asked them to help).
If you think a country having a corrupt evil government doing really bad stuff gives other countries the right to help overthrow it perhaps you should look at the USA sometime. Corrupt? Evil? Actively doing really bad stuff? All checked.
[1] Yeah Saddam was an evil dictator, guess who helped him get in power and kept supporting him? http://foreignpolicy.com/2013/...
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Re:Fucking Yanks, world police.
Syria was a civil war incited by the Arab Spring and a dictator butting heads that we were keeping our collective noses out of for a decade.
Bullshit! https://www.washingtonpost.com...
Classified U.S. diplomatic cables show that the State Department has funneled as much as $6 million to the group since 2006 to operate the satellite channel and finance other activities inside Syria.
Once the fire finally ignited you added more fuel:
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06...Same sort of thing for Libya, Iraq[1] etc. The US has been helping to start fires and keep them ablaze for decades.
As for 9/11 guess who helped Osama bin Laden and gang grow in power: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/sou...
http://archive.is/1wddNOpen your eyes. These are all mainstream articles not conspiracy nut sites. You bunch are far from the good guys. Heck even the Russians have more legal justification for messing with Syria (the Syrian government asked them to help).
If you think a country having a corrupt evil government doing really bad stuff gives other countries the right to help overthrow it perhaps you should look at the USA sometime. Corrupt? Evil? Actively doing really bad stuff? All checked.
[1] Yeah Saddam was an evil dictator, guess who helped him get in power and kept supporting him? http://foreignpolicy.com/2013/...
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Re:Clinton, Podesta, Putin and Trump
A few points on this alleged story:
1. The Clinton campaign desperately trying to distract attention away from Hillary's fundamental dishonesty.
True, but so is Trump trying desperately trying to distrac this negative aspects. Desperately trying to distract is a key skill of all politicians.
2. Maybe the story is true, and the Clinton campaign hires people with the security acumen of a burned-out toaster.
Not Clinton, the DNC. And yes they probably do just like the Republicans and Independents do too. Any sufficiently large organisation will have numpties among their numbers. even the CIA, KGB, NSA, DoD etc have numpties. This is not unusual.
3. Buzzfeed? Really?
Pass
4. Maybe they figure if they keep yelling "Trump is a Putin pawn!" enough we'll ignore the fact that Podesta is a registered lobbyist for Putin's bank.
There's one candidate in this race who has a proven record of taking money for favors from Russian sources, and it isn't Trump.
Registered and disclosed. Do you see how it works now?
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Clinton, Podesta, Putin and Trump
A few points on this alleged story:
1. The Clinton campaign desperately trying to distract attention away from Hillary's fundamental dishonesty.
2. Maybe the story is true, and the Clinton campaign hires people with the security acumen of a burned-out toaster.
3. Buzzfeed? Really?
4. Maybe they figure if they keep yelling "Trump is a Putin pawn!" enough we'll ignore the fact that Podesta is a registered lobbyist for Putin's bank.There's one candidate in this race who has a proven record of taking money for favors from Russian sources, and it isn't Trump.
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Fallacious association
It's catchy to slide in Tesla in unrelated articles but just because it uses batteries doesn't mean they are prone to fires.
The one that famously caught fire and torched a supercharger in Europe was caused by a genuine one-off assembly line defect.
The one that caught fire in France during a test drive was found to have a a faulty electrical connection.
The one that crashed on autopilot and "battery caught fire" actually didn't burned down: it smashed into a tree separating the front of the vehicle from the cabine, tearing the battery apart where a small number of cells separated from the rest and autopilot tesla crash fire caught fire, away from the vehicle and the rest of the battery pack. Driver dies of impact.
Another one caught fire due to hitting debris where car alerted driver to pull aside.Complete list of EV fires exonerate batteries for the most part, as most EVs (Tesla and Chevy Volt) have liquid-cooled battery packs, unlike consumer electronics (esp. handheld devices).
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No mystery -- Thiel supports Trump
This has nothing to do with discrimination. Peter Thiel is a major supporter of Trump and Obama administration is now punishing him. This is no different than Obama's IRS going after Tea-party organizations before the last elections.
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I can't read that
jc... http://www.nytimes.com/interac...
I don't have access to that, it's paywalled.
Do you have a non-paywalled link? Or can you post the text?
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Re:Sure thing
Bullshit once again.
Right there it is for everyone to see. I said bullshit because that is what you are peddling. I've ACTUALLY read hundreds of her emails, unlike you. I actually know their content instead of falsely claiming they were lost. Look at the timing of this email, compare to the time her son in law made the investments, and then show me her looking at the Greece bailout at ANY OTHER TIME. There is no point in prosecuting this because her BRIBERY from RUSSIA about approval of selling them URANIUM is so more outrageous, it is on the level of a super James Bond villain, that it is insignificant in comparison. It would be like charging a serial murderer with j-walking.
It wasn't part of her job, she didn't care. She called in a favour from an IMF official, and had to forward it on to understand it. The appearance of inappropriate behaviour at her level is unacceptable, period. The fact she went through the trouble to cover it up and lie about it shows "INTENT", which is how prosecutors prove intent.
Clinton is a corrupt lying bitch. Anyone who even tries to spin anything different looks like an idiot to everyone else and we are laughing at you.
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Re:Trump may be KGB
I'm not for a moment suggesting Trump is a 'KGB agent', but he has business history is Russia
More than just "business interests". Most Western banks won't do business with him any more, citing him as a bad risk. The only place left for him to get money for his "projects" is the Russian oligarchy.
The one Western bank that will still deal with Trump is Deutsche Bank, and their stock price has taken a huge hit.
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Re:OK but misses a larger problem
Actually it's just a case of what-goes-around-comes-around. Some of the women have explicitly stated that they were motivated to come out by his denials during the second debate.
Poetic justice, IMO, after featuring Blll Clinton's accusers as the centerpiece of his strategy last weekend. He's outraged that anyone would be interested in the same accusations against him.
Trump's outrage: Donald Trump Calls Allegations by Women ‘False Smears’
“The establishment and their media neighbors wield control over this nation through means that are very well known — anyone who challenges their control is deemed a sexist, a racist, a xenophobe and morally deformed,” Mr. Trump said. “They will seek to destroy everything about you, including your reputation. They will lie, lie, lie, and then again, they will do worse than that. They will do whatever’s necessary.” [emphasis mine]
And *anyone* that challenges Trump
... um, well... pretty much the same thing.[ He -- and the RNC (establishment) and Fox News (media neighbors) -- really shouldn't be casting these stones. ]
Trump is showing that he doesn't even know how to be a politician. After the tape came out on Friday, a real politician would have rushed to the cameras with his best insincere apology ("in case anyone was offended"), dismissed it as a youthful indiscretion, and put it behind him.
But Trump's ego and thin skin won't allow that. Instead he has to find someone to blame for his self-inflicted wounds, and go on the offensive against them. Rather than defusing the situtation, he escalates it into a battle he can't win.
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Re:OK but misses a larger problem
Actually it's just a case of what-goes-around-comes-around. Some of the women have explicitly stated that they were motivated to come out by his denials during the second debate.
Poetic justice, IMO, after featuring Blll Clinton's accusers as the centerpiece of his strategy last weekend. He's outraged that anyone would be interested in the same accusations against him.
Trump's outrage: Donald Trump Calls Allegations by Women ‘False Smears’
“The establishment and their media neighbors wield control over this nation through means that are very well known — anyone who challenges their control is deemed a sexist, a racist, a xenophobe and morally deformed,” Mr. Trump said. “They will seek to destroy everything about you, including your reputation. They will lie, lie, lie, and then again, they will do worse than that. They will do whatever’s necessary.” [emphasis mine]
And *anyone* that challenges Trump
... um, well... pretty much the same thing.[ He -- and the RNC (establishment) and Fox News (media neighbors) -- really shouldn't be casting these stones. ]
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Re:Whitewashing Clinton
Lack of intent may be why she should get a reduced sentence. It does not absolve her of the crime. An NSA contractor was just arrested merely for taking some materials home — that in itself is highly illegal and qualifies him for jail time. If the investigation also proves he wanted to leak/sell the information, the charges will be upgraded.
Seriously? Read the first paragraph of your source:
The F.B.I. secretly arrested a former National Security Agency contractor in August and, according to law enforcement officials, is investigating whether he stole and disclosed highly classified computer code developed by the agency to hack into the networks of foreign governments.
He was arrested because they think he stole and released classified intel. So yeah. Something completely different than Clinton.
Oh and later on, the stuff he stole:
According to court documents, the F.B.I. discovered thousands of pages of documents and dozens of computers or other electronic devices at his home and in his car, a large amount of it classified. The digital media contained “many terabytes of information,” according to the documents. They also discovered classified documents that had been posted online, including computer code, officials said. Some of the documents were produced in 2014.
So
1) He obviously knew what he was doing (and that it was very not allowed).
2) A large portion of the stuff was classified, as opposed to a tiny fraction with Clinton. So he clearly targeted classified info.
3) This involves way more classified info than Clinton.
4) There's a real suspicion that he deliberately published the classified information.
Lets try a metaphor. Someone is shopping, buys $200 of groceries, walks out of the store, and it turned out they have a $1 candy bar in their pocket.
They claim the cart was overflowing so they just stuck it in their pocket with the intent of taking it out at the till... and they forgot.
Now there's no real motive to doubt them, they obviously don't care about the $1 so there's no motive to steal, but they could be a kleptomaniac so you never know.
Later someone comes in the dead of night when the store is closed, smashes a window, tosses a bunch of groceries into their truck, and drives off.
Now, they're both guilty of stealing, but do you really think both are both deserving of arrest and jail time? Because that's the essential argument you're making.
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Re:H-1B abuse and Trump
So he claims - but when you consider his track record on keeping his promises, it's not promising. No, he hasn't been a politician before, but we can examine his past record in business. How has he dealt with his business partners, and how did he deal with shareholders when he was running a publicly traded company?
The answer is he's pretty much screwed over anyone who ever put their trust in him. He regularly refuses to pay people who he hired to do work for him on contract. When he had a publicly traded company, Trump Hotel and Casino Resorts, he ran it into the ground while thoroughly looting as much as he could from it.
Citations:
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06...
http://fortune.com/2016/03/10/...
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Re:Two sides to Free Trade
No, it is not. The government's duty is to protect us from external enemies and internal criminals. Nobody owes you any actual support — that is, you can not count on other people giving you anything of theirs, only on them not taking away anything of yours.
Not exactly... Basically all forms of an oath for public service at the federal level are: "I, , do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion, and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. [So help me God is optional for President]". This poses the question of what/who are to be considered enemies?
Back to the original topic, I can not see, how an employer can be considered wrong not buying labor from the same folks, who are themselves happy to buy imported goods. We are all selling something (such as our labor) to buy something — and Free Trade expands the markets for both sellers and buyers. It sucks to be on the losing side, but that's life...
This is the argument that has in my opinion not gotten enough analysis. How can a country approach a 100% consumer society when all the production had moved out of the country. There is no longer anything to trade from local resources, labor, goods, etc.. All is being either outsourced or imported (and this is the current trend).
If you ban trading with India, the employer may consider moving work away from the expensive California towards a cheaper State — will we be talking about banning interstate commerce next, the way health insurance is already banned (under a variety of bogus excuses), for example?
I do not believe the concerns today are about banning trade, but eliminate one-sided trade practices (H1B abuse is one of them along with market saturation of government-subsidized lower cost items). This is not free trade.
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Two sides to Free Trade
Probably because it is a country's duty to first support its own citizens.
No, it is not. The government's duty is to protect us from external enemies and internal criminals. Nobody owes you any actual support — that is, you can not count on other people giving you anything of theirs, only on them not taking away anything of yours.
Back to the original topic, I can not see, how an employer can be considered wrong not buying labor from the same folks, who are themselves happy to buy imported goods. We are all selling something (such as our labor) to buy something — and Free Trade expands the markets for both sellers and buyers. It sucks to be on the losing side, but that's life...
If you ban trading with India, the employer may consider moving work away from the expensive California towards a cheaper State — will we be talking about banning interstate commerce next, the way health insurance is already banned (under a variety of bogus excuses), for example?
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Re:Why is it preposterous?
Nothing in the 15 point checklist requires perfect safety. In fact, most of the items are just "it should include something that tries to do X" where X is "obey local traffic laws", "refuse to go into automatic mode if sensors are damaged", "save data if there's a crash" and "switch safely from autopilot to manual control."
The actual document can be found here and simple summary that leaves out a lot can be found here.
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Whitewashing Clinton
She did not intentionally leak any information.
Wow! Do we have to debunk this meme once again?
Lack of intent may be why she should get a reduced sentence. It does not absolve her of the crime. An NSA contractor was just arrested merely for taking some materials home — that in itself is highly illegal and qualifies him for jail time. If the investigation also proves he wanted to leak/sell the information, the charges will be upgraded.
She really does belong to jail over this — the Democrats have disgraced the US this year by nominating a bona-fide criminal.
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Re:Total BS
Mostly someone spouting off. I think I was remembering an op-ed by Robert Kennedy Jr. (I looked it up, published in 2008):
In Virginia, the weather also has changed dramatically. Recently arrived residents in the northern suburbs, accustomed to today's anemic winters, might find it astonishing to learn that there were once ski runs on Ballantrae Hill in McLean, with a rope tow and local ski club. Snow is so scarce today that most Virginia children probably don't own a sled. But neighbors came to our home at Hickory Hill nearly every winter weekend to ride saucers and Flexible Flyers.
(And you can read the rest of the text from the link, it's plainly in the context of climate change.)
But even scientists can pin the blame as they see fit:
''I bought a sled in '96 for my daughter,'' said Dr. Michael Oppenheimer, a scientist at the nonprofit Environmental Defense Fund. ''It's been sitting in the stairwell, and hasn't been used..."
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Re:Assaults of different kinds
Are you seriously claiming, it is your sincere belief, Bill Clinton has never sexually assaulted anyone? Please, say so.
Right now the only allegation of sexual impropriety made against Bill Clinton that's been shown to be true is an affair with a consenting woman
Right now there are simply no such proven allegations against Trump. Zero — confession without hard evidence do not count. And it was investigated by the best minds in the business — the most they could find was a Florida model attending Trump's party, whom he has offered to change into a swimsuit. Wow, the nerve! It was so pathetic, it made some Democrats laugh.
And it certainly doesn't make his wife a criminal.
His wife is — credibly — accused of suppressing his victims' accusations. That is not merely immoral, but criminal too.
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Re:Why?
You forgot to quote (or read, judging from your conclusion) this part:
Some people might be tempted to write off Trump's comments to Bush as empty boasts. They would be utter fools to do so. The New York Times, in fact, has just run an interview with a woman who says she was given the Trump treatment by the reality TV star. This is not an isolated incident: there is ample evidence that Trump has physically harmed women. And he has now admitted on tape that he feels license to mistreat them.
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Re: Who you calling KGB?
Lied? I think you mean, at best, was mistaken.
Thanks to the links I offered above, you too know, she spoke an untruth.
Maybe, you are too young to have paid attention, when these facts broke out, but Hillary Clinton was already very active in politics — she can not possibly not have heard about it. Therefore, she knew. Deliberately telling an untruth is the very definition of lying.
I am reluctant to accept something from a KGB archive as fact.
Well, what would you accept as fact? There are folks, who still question Moon-landing, for example, and they too can explain in detail, why everything known about it was not "fact". In the early 1990-ies, when the archives were (briefly) made accessible, the KGB was in disarray...
KGB might have still borne some grudges against the Kennedy family.
American Left have always been good to the USSR and Russia... It was because of them, the US was humiliated in Vietnam, defeated not by military might, but by discontent back at home. Later, when the USSR collapsed, it was Bill Clinton, who didn't push for Nurneberg-style of the Communists, allowing their prosecution to fizzle — that during the time, when Moscow was barely avoiding famine thanks to America's help. Later, it were Barack and Hillary, who offered Putin a "Reset" — and poured billions of dollars into Russian scientific research — not selflessly, of course. The duo also completely forgave Putin his invasion of Georgia by ending all sanctions in 2010 (thus encouraging him to invade Ukraine, as predicted).
Why would Putin seek to undermine such an asset as Hillary — whom he could've instead controlled with a combination of continuing bribery and blackmail over the bribes already taken?
Sure enough, Democrats would like Trump to look like Putin's favorite, but history points rather strongly at them...
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Re: Who you calling KGB?
Lied? I think you mean, at best, was mistaken.
Thanks to the links I offered above, you too know, she spoke an untruth.
Maybe, you are too young to have paid attention, when these facts broke out, but Hillary Clinton was already very active in politics — she can not possibly not have heard about it. Therefore, she knew. Deliberately telling an untruth is the very definition of lying.
I am reluctant to accept something from a KGB archive as fact.
Well, what would you accept as fact? There are folks, who still question Moon-landing, for example, and they too can explain in detail, why everything known about it was not "fact". In the early 1990-ies, when the archives were (briefly) made accessible, the KGB was in disarray...
KGB might have still borne some grudges against the Kennedy family.
American Left have always been good to the USSR and Russia... It was because of them, the US was humiliated in Vietnam, defeated not by military might, but by discontent back at home. Later, when the USSR collapsed, it was Bill Clinton, who didn't push for Nurneberg-style of the Communists, allowing their prosecution to fizzle — that during the time, when Moscow was barely avoiding famine thanks to America's help. Later, it were Barack and Hillary, who offered Putin a "Reset" — and poured billions of dollars into Russian scientific research — not selflessly, of course. The duo also completely forgave Putin his invasion of Georgia by ending all sanctions in 2010 (thus encouraging him to invade Ukraine, as predicted).
Why would Putin seek to undermine such an asset as Hillary — whom he could've instead controlled with a combination of continuing bribery and blackmail over the bribes already taken?
Sure enough, Democrats would like Trump to look like Putin's favorite, but history points rather strongly at them...
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Re: Who you calling KGB?
Lied? I think you mean, at best, was mistaken.
Thanks to the links I offered above, you too know, she spoke an untruth.
Maybe, you are too young to have paid attention, when these facts broke out, but Hillary Clinton was already very active in politics — she can not possibly not have heard about it. Therefore, she knew. Deliberately telling an untruth is the very definition of lying.
I am reluctant to accept something from a KGB archive as fact.
Well, what would you accept as fact? There are folks, who still question Moon-landing, for example, and they too can explain in detail, why everything known about it was not "fact". In the early 1990-ies, when the archives were (briefly) made accessible, the KGB was in disarray...
KGB might have still borne some grudges against the Kennedy family.
American Left have always been good to the USSR and Russia... It was because of them, the US was humiliated in Vietnam, defeated not by military might, but by discontent back at home. Later, when the USSR collapsed, it was Bill Clinton, who didn't push for Nurneberg-style of the Communists, allowing their prosecution to fizzle — that during the time, when Moscow was barely avoiding famine thanks to America's help. Later, it were Barack and Hillary, who offered Putin a "Reset" — and poured billions of dollars into Russian scientific research — not selflessly, of course. The duo also completely forgave Putin his invasion of Georgia by ending all sanctions in 2010 (thus encouraging him to invade Ukraine, as predicted).
Why would Putin seek to undermine such an asset as Hillary — whom he could've instead controlled with a combination of continuing bribery and blackmail over the bribes already taken?
Sure enough, Democrats would like Trump to look like Putin's favorite, but history points rather strongly at them...
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People misunderstand the term
When these people talk about "trolls," they're not talking about your garden-variety asshole that stirs up trouble for his own amusement. They're talking about the other kind of troll, the one that hides inside the term and uses the harmless ones for cover. These people are a menace. Stalking and harassment are just the appetizers for these psychos -- swatting is more their style. They want to hurt people and the internet exports that misery all over the world.
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Re:The odds
Samsung has sold millions of these things. Three of them have caught fire. That makes the odds of a device catching fire less than 1 in 1,000,000. Business Insider says that 17 cars catch fire every hour. Where are the cries for recalling cars?
I'm going to keep a copy of your post for safe keeping. This "what about y" device is constantly being invoked as justification for everything from mass surveillance to red rum so often in so many different contexts it usually makes me cringe/sigh Al Gore style whenever I encounter it.
Boldly inquiring about cries for recalling products that catch on fire takes it to a whole new level.
http://www.reuters.com/article...
http://q13fox.com/2016/09/30/s...
http://abcnews.go.com/Business...
http://www.techtimes.com/artic...
http://jalopnik.com/5935974/fi...
http://www.autonews.com/articl...
http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/01/...
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04...
http://www.popularmechanics.co...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/...
http://www.streetdirectory.com...
https://www.cpsc.gov/Recalls/2...
If you want to hear cries from victims themselves click keywords and enter fire. http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/o...
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Re:You misspelled oolooney there...
Oh... and BTW... Speaking of "more realistic theories"... http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07...
I'm sorry you don't understand the difference between "Newsweek" and the "DNC", or between "accessing E-mails" and "DDOS attack".
I have no doubt Russia tries to access the E-mails of all US officials. I have no problem with them trying, it's the job of spy agencies. It's the responsibility of US politicians to make their systems secure, and they shouldn't whine and complain if their dirty laundry gets aired by the Russians.
Mit der Dummheit kämpfen Götter selbst vergebens
The sad thing is that you will never understand how apt that quote is as your signature: you are so stupid, you don't even recognize it.
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You misspelled oolooney there...
You think it's more likely that Russian hackers conspired with Donald Trump to keep Hillary from becoming president by starting a DDOS on Newsweek? That is the nutty conspiracy theory.
BTW, that's a nice canard.
Not that I'm judging your propensity towards aquatic fowl or its food, but no one is claiming that Putin and Trump actually conspired - just that the Trump is an useful idiot for Putin and Palls.
No... Wait... YOU ARE THE ONE CLAIMING THAT!
Cause that's how you looney brain works. Conspiracies everywhere.Oh... and BTW... Speaking of "more realistic theories"...
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07...Oh... Looney, Looney, Looney... Whatever would we do without duck fuckers and fish rapers like you?
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Re:Wha?!?! Hilary! lied?!?! In bed with banksters?
Story about Clinton being bribed by Russia for favours while she was Secretary of State. Bribed by Russia for uranium, in the NYT
LoL. This "scandal" was put to rest at the time when someone asked who bribed the other dozen agencies that had to sign off on it.
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Re:Wha?!?! Hilary! lied?!?! In bed with banksters?
Story about Clinton being bribed by Russia for favours while she was Secretary of State. Bribed by Russia for uranium, in the NYT.
There is NOTHING that could be in Trumps tax returns that could even be half as bad. If you actually cared about disclosure and ethics, you would never ever possibly consider voting for Clinton. Since you are spinning stories about what "might" be in there and how it would disqualify him, you are a worthless hypocrite and your opinion means shit.
Clinton took BRIBES from RUSSIA for URANIUM while SoS. It doesn't get more corrupt than that. The only worse thing she could have done is lie to the families of people killed who worked for her about why they were killed.
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Trump really is not so bad
The reason you even consider Hillary comparably evil to Trump is the unprecedented media campaign against him and for her.
Merely 7% of journalists are Republicans... There has not been a day in the last 6 months, when my iPhone did not have at least one link to a bad article about him, while she is mentioned either neutrally or positively. Washington Post alone has 20 journalists digging up dirt on Trump full time. In 2008, at least, the media still feigned neutrality, hiding the skew against McCain — although, it was an obvious pretense. The public was staggeringly misinformed about both sides — far more people knew all about the cost of Palin's new clothes, for example, than about Biden's past plagiarism, an objective evidence of media's failure to inform.
This time, they don't even pretend any more...
If, despite all these partisan efforts, the worst things they can come up with is his calling some cunt a cunt in 1988 (!), you really ought to ask yourself, how much of that negative perception you have of him is artificially planted...
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Re: Trump versus Clinton
I've already stated that there is no way to prove Powell's use, as he stated he has none of those emails, as referenced in the link above.
Hey, I'm not the one accusing someone of felonies without proof.
From your link, Powell did state: "I am not sure HRC even knew or understood what was going on in the basement" which I can only believe means that she herself wasn't 100% aware of the technical aspects of her email support, so you'll need to provide proof that she intentionally kept anything hidden on her private email server.
How about the fact that she specifically ordered someone to send classified material "nonsecure" and remove the classified headings?
But in one email exchange between Clinton and staffer Jake Sullivan from June 17, 2011, the then-secretary advised her aide on sending a set of talking points by email when he had trouble sending them through secure means.
Part of the exchange is redacted, so the context of the emails is unknown, but at one point, Sullivan tells Clinton that aides "say they've had issues sending secure fax. They're working on it."
Clinton responds, "If they can't, turn into nonpaper w no identifying heading and send nonsecure.
- CBS News
Also, we do know that of the 30+K emails Clinton sent, only 22 were later classified as secret after the fact. 104 were considered classified, yet all of those came from an unclassified state dept system. Guess what's not allowed on unclassified systems?
We don't know that at all. We know that the State Department and the campaign were claiming that to the New York Times a year ago, (your article is from January), but "the truth" about Clinton's emails has changed several times since then.
At this point, I'd state that you'd need to prove that a single classified email with known classified information with the proper relationships in the document to actually make them classified was sent knowingly by Clinton from her private email server. Retro-active classification does not qualify.
Do I have to prove it? Can the FBI prove it instead? Let's ask FBI Director James Comey what he found on the server.
From the group of 30,000 e-mails returned to the State Department, 110 e-mails in 52 e-mail chains have been determined by the owning agency to contain classified information at the time they were sent or received. Eight of those chains contained information that was Top Secret at the time they were sent; 36 chains contained Secret information at the time; and eight contained Confidential information, which is the lowest level of classification. Separate from those, about 2,000 additional e-mails were “up-classified” to make them Confidential; the information in those had not been classified at the time the e-mails were sent...
For example, seven e-mail chains concern matters that were classified at the Top Secret/Special Access Program level when they were sent and received. These chains involved Secretary Clinton both sending e-mails about those matters and receiving e-mails from others about the same matters. There is evidence to support a conclusion that any reasonable person in Secretary Clinton’s position, or in the position of those government employees with whom she was corresponding about these matters, should have known that an unclassified system was no place for that conversation. In a
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Re: Trump versus Clinton
This is the difference.
“It is no secret that I used a [sic] unclassified personal email account in addition to my classified State computer,’” Powell wrote to the New York Times’s Amy Chozick.
Clinton kept Top Secret material on her hidden server. Powell did nothing of the sort. If you're accusing Powell of breaking classification laws, the burden of proof is on you to provide proof.
I've already stated that there is no way to prove Powell's use, as he stated he has none of those emails, as referenced in the link above. From your link, Powell did state: "I am not sure HRC even knew or understood what was going on in the basement" which I can only believe means that she herself wasn't 100% aware of the technical aspects of her email support, so you'll need to provide proof that she intentionally kept anything hidden on her private email server. Also, we do know that of the 30+K emails Clinton sent, only 22 were later classified as secret after the fact. 104 were considered classified, yet all of those came from an unclassified state dept system. Guess what's not allowed on unclassified systems?
The State Department said it had “upgraded” the classification of the emails at the request of the nation’s intelligence agencies.
Mrs. Clinton’s campaign responded forcefully, saying that the process of reviewing the emails “appears to be over-classification run amok.” A spokesman, Brian Fallon, said all of the emails should be released.
“We understand that these emails were likely originated on the State Department’s unclassified system before they were ever shared with Secretary Clinton, and they have remained on the department’s unclassified system for years,” Mr. Fallon said.
At this point, I'd state that you'd need to prove that a single classified email with known classified information with the proper relationships in the document to actually make them classified was sent knowingly by Clinton from her private email server. Retro-active classification does not qualify. If it came from an unclassified source, it's not classified, even if the gov wants it to be classified (although the rules about public or publicly available knowledge being classified certainly have become somewhat more ephemeral since the last time I dealt with it) When the press first published this "newsworthy" story, I forgot my first rule of "news" stories - be skeptical. The more details have come out the less "newsworthy" this story becomes. At this point, much as I don't like her, I have to give her a pass unless someone can prove something truly illegal occurred.
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Re:but -
Viral, huh? Exaggerate, huh? So you say you want something dramatic, eh?
Well, here you go.. and, BTW, this isn't a debate on whether global warming is man-made or real or not --this is actual animal death caused by actual human activity. There is no debate that human's trash, crop runoff, and effluent is killing the ocean.
http://chrisjordan.com/gallery...
It was bizarre to see that much garbage in what should be pristine ocean."
'BIZARRE' isn't the word I'd use. More like DISGUSTING and SAD.
How a DVD Case Killed a Whale
http://news.nationalgeographic...
One fact that left me horrified and speechless... nearly 1/4 of the Great Barrier Reef underwent severe bleaching (coral death) this year.
Not to mention the ~ 200 underwater dead zones. After the Deepwater Horizon, almost all of the gulf is now a dead zone.
http://www.pasadenastarnews.co...
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07...
Do you know why they're 'toxic' algae blooms? Algae makes a biotoxin called domoic acid that causes:
vomiting, nausea, diarrhea and abdominal cramps within 24 hours of ingestion, headache, dizziness, confusion, disorientation, loss of short-term memory, motor weakness, seizures, profuse respiratory secretions, cardiac arrhythmias, coma, and possible death
The earth's oceans account for nearly 80 percent of breathable-oxygen. Kill the ocean and we ALL die.
How about them apples??
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Re:Obviously unconstituional request
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Re:was there a double dip?
My understanding is that the chip enabled terminals were not being made fully functional for the retailers, but they were still being forced to accept liability.
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Re:Y'know...
Story explaining she took bribes from Russia to sell them US uranium. The same State Department that refused to sell a silver mine to China because there "might" be uranium, she approved the sale to Russia.
Why do you think Russia supports Trump when they have already bribed her? The can either bribe her again, or blackmail her to get anything they want.
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Re:And you know that how? Who broke security?
No joke. Choose your source. It happened.
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballo...
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08...
or google "trump security briefing nuclear"
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Can information be stolen?
steal (verb): to appropriate (ideas, credit, words, etc.) without right or acknowledgment.
And yet, most of Slashdot disagrees, that information can be stolen: you still have your copy of that file you accuse me of "stealing", don't you?
I too find the argument ridiculous, but it is so wide-spread, I mock it at any opportunity.
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Re:Trade-offs
I don't think the deal ever went through.
Looks like it went through: "Mr. Combetta is one of at least two people who were given immunity by the Justice Department as part of the investigation." The NYT usually gets their facts right.
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Re:Acid rain
You probably mean the Montreal Protocol?
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12...
Germany obviously was again nearly a decade ahead, emissions of sulfur dioxide etc. was severally cut in the beginning of the 1980s.
However, looking at the globe, this is not enough. Most sulfur emissions now come from ships. OTOH SO2 has a cooling effect, if we had not the current emission level the globe would probably already be significantly warmer.
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Re:Whoopty Doo
The mainstream news organizations have been completely missing until very recently. The information about Trump's income tax claim could have been uncovered by the NY Times at any time in the last two years, but it wasn't. He was getting a free ride from the entire mainstream press until a few weeks ago.
How could the Times covered tax returns it didn't have until recently? According the Times, someone anonymously mailed them the returns last week. Yes, they have wanted to see the returns since the beginning however Trump had not released them.
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Re:Meh.
hillary is corrupt
but trump is as corrupt and sleazy ?
you do know that most of corrupt liar is gop fantasy (benghazi, vince foster) ?
Do you think the NIH (war on cancer), NTSB, National Parks are good ? Trump tax cuts, goodbye to all that
There are about 10 million people on ocare, many of whom no doubt are on chemo
you stop ocare day one, who pays for the chemo ? we just let them die ?but lets stipulate to your ideas about clinton; is the man who goes on a 3am rant about ms universe really better ?
really ?
look at argentina: they voted in a trump (peron) and they went from nearly a 1st world country to nearly 3rd worldhttp://www.nytimes.com/2016/06...
Trump U targets grieving army war widow:
The sales pitches seeking to separate Cheryl Lankford from her money began during the recession as she struggled to get back on her feet after the death of her husband, an American soldier serving in Iraq.
Two of them were from companies that have boasted the Trump name.
One was Trump University, the real estate sales seminar that Donald J. Trump promoted as a way for average people to profit from opportunities in the housing market. Ms. Lankford said she spent $35,000 from an Army insurance payment to learn Mr. Trump’s secrets.also
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06...
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08... -
Re:Meh.
hillary is corrupt
but trump is as corrupt and sleazy ?
you do know that most of corrupt liar is gop fantasy (benghazi, vince foster) ?
Do you think the NIH (war on cancer), NTSB, National Parks are good ? Trump tax cuts, goodbye to all that
There are about 10 million people on ocare, many of whom no doubt are on chemo
you stop ocare day one, who pays for the chemo ? we just let them die ?but lets stipulate to your ideas about clinton; is the man who goes on a 3am rant about ms universe really better ?
really ?
look at argentina: they voted in a trump (peron) and they went from nearly a 1st world country to nearly 3rd worldhttp://www.nytimes.com/2016/06...
Trump U targets grieving army war widow:
The sales pitches seeking to separate Cheryl Lankford from her money began during the recession as she struggled to get back on her feet after the death of her husband, an American soldier serving in Iraq.
Two of them were from companies that have boasted the Trump name.
One was Trump University, the real estate sales seminar that Donald J. Trump promoted as a way for average people to profit from opportunities in the housing market. Ms. Lankford said she spent $35,000 from an Army insurance payment to learn Mr. Trump’s secrets.also
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06...
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08... -
Re:Meh.
hillary is corrupt
but trump is as corrupt and sleazy ?
you do know that most of corrupt liar is gop fantasy (benghazi, vince foster) ?
Do you think the NIH (war on cancer), NTSB, National Parks are good ? Trump tax cuts, goodbye to all that
There are about 10 million people on ocare, many of whom no doubt are on chemo
you stop ocare day one, who pays for the chemo ? we just let them die ?but lets stipulate to your ideas about clinton; is the man who goes on a 3am rant about ms universe really better ?
really ?
look at argentina: they voted in a trump (peron) and they went from nearly a 1st world country to nearly 3rd worldhttp://www.nytimes.com/2016/06...
Trump U targets grieving army war widow:
The sales pitches seeking to separate Cheryl Lankford from her money began during the recession as she struggled to get back on her feet after the death of her husband, an American soldier serving in Iraq.
Two of them were from companies that have boasted the Trump name.
One was Trump University, the real estate sales seminar that Donald J. Trump promoted as a way for average people to profit from opportunities in the housing market. Ms. Lankford said she spent $35,000 from an Army insurance payment to learn Mr. Trump’s secrets.also
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06...
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08... -
taxes are a red herring
trump supporters - I know most of you, no the vast majority are neither stupid nor racist
yet whenever we point out trumnp flaws, the answer is always hillary !! benghazi !!!
how about addressing trumps issues for once ?1) look at how he was unable, totally unable to resist clintons needling him in the debate and his ballistics wierdness on ms universe
is he gonna go ballistic if putin dumps on him ? is that really what you want next to the nuclear button ?2) Trump lies constantly (I really shouldn't have to provide a url for this), he is a sleaze who stiffs small businessmen (a) and he is a con artist (a)
3) he draws the support of the small number of people who are crazy (c) or racist (read alt ride blogs)
4) his policies are stupid: there are fewer coal jobs cause of *technology* (same amt of coal today, fewer workers); the oil companies didn't bid on gulf cause fracking is cheaper; 20 years ago, trade and offshoring were issues; today the issue is robots and automation
5) he is really gonna round up 11 (no, not 20) million illegals ? what if all the us born kids file lawsuits demanding to stay and demanding care as orphans ? can you imagine the clusterf ? mass deportation - the lawyers employment act
6) his economic plans, to the extent he has any, are huge tax cuts for the rich
do you like national parks ? the FDA ? the nih, NTSB, ? they are in for huge cuts7) as pointed out in ny times editorial, his infrastructure program proposal is based on double dip accounting, it is a stupid proposal
8) virtually every GOP economist who served with bush I, bush II, mccain or romney thinks trump is stupid
nearly every one9) you all seem to distrust the mainstream media, but far as i can tell, benghazi and vince foster are gop delusions; no there there
okay, the email thing was stupid, but i bet dollars to donuts that if a gop person did the same, the right wing meme would be, the gov't classifies way to much stuff ,mainly to hide govt errors !! and i bet you can probably find wall str journal or national review articles to that effect !!10) when ever he looses, he whines. is that a winner ? is that really what you want as commander in chief ?
11) trashing the constitution and banning muslims (who are, this is true, *one percent us population*!!) ain't gonna help terrorism (why don't we ban ex soldiers - after all, T McVeigh ???)
Terrorism is either quasi state actors (ISIL) which requires stronger democratic states , or lone wolf teen guys - and teenage males are always with us and some are wierd; i bet if you track killings by teen age men, it is constant, what changes is their motivation whih is solely driven by wht they read in the news; if terror is big in the news, the teenager fantasizes about terror; if going postal is big, he fantasizes about terror
answer is jobs
a
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06...Trump U targets grieving army war widow:
The sales pitches seeking to separate Cheryl Lankford from her money began during the recession as she struggled to get back on her feet after the death of her husband, an American soldier serving in Iraq.
Two of them were from companies that have boasted the Trump name.
One was Trump University, the real estate sales seminar that Donald J. Trump promoted as a way for average people to profit from opportunities in the housing market. Ms. Lankford said she spent $35,000 from an Army insurance payment to learn Mr. Trump’s secrets.also this one
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06...
and
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08...b
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taxes are a red herring
trump supporters - I know most of you, no the vast majority are neither stupid nor racist
yet whenever we point out trumnp flaws, the answer is always hillary !! benghazi !!!
how about addressing trumps issues for once ?1) look at how he was unable, totally unable to resist clintons needling him in the debate and his ballistics wierdness on ms universe
is he gonna go ballistic if putin dumps on him ? is that really what you want next to the nuclear button ?2) Trump lies constantly (I really shouldn't have to provide a url for this), he is a sleaze who stiffs small businessmen (a) and he is a con artist (a)
3) he draws the support of the small number of people who are crazy (c) or racist (read alt ride blogs)
4) his policies are stupid: there are fewer coal jobs cause of *technology* (same amt of coal today, fewer workers); the oil companies didn't bid on gulf cause fracking is cheaper; 20 years ago, trade and offshoring were issues; today the issue is robots and automation
5) he is really gonna round up 11 (no, not 20) million illegals ? what if all the us born kids file lawsuits demanding to stay and demanding care as orphans ? can you imagine the clusterf ? mass deportation - the lawyers employment act
6) his economic plans, to the extent he has any, are huge tax cuts for the rich
do you like national parks ? the FDA ? the nih, NTSB, ? they are in for huge cuts7) as pointed out in ny times editorial, his infrastructure program proposal is based on double dip accounting, it is a stupid proposal
8) virtually every GOP economist who served with bush I, bush II, mccain or romney thinks trump is stupid
nearly every one9) you all seem to distrust the mainstream media, but far as i can tell, benghazi and vince foster are gop delusions; no there there
okay, the email thing was stupid, but i bet dollars to donuts that if a gop person did the same, the right wing meme would be, the gov't classifies way to much stuff ,mainly to hide govt errors !! and i bet you can probably find wall str journal or national review articles to that effect !!10) when ever he looses, he whines. is that a winner ? is that really what you want as commander in chief ?
11) trashing the constitution and banning muslims (who are, this is true, *one percent us population*!!) ain't gonna help terrorism (why don't we ban ex soldiers - after all, T McVeigh ???)
Terrorism is either quasi state actors (ISIL) which requires stronger democratic states , or lone wolf teen guys - and teenage males are always with us and some are wierd; i bet if you track killings by teen age men, it is constant, what changes is their motivation whih is solely driven by wht they read in the news; if terror is big in the news, the teenager fantasizes about terror; if going postal is big, he fantasizes about terror
answer is jobs
a
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06...Trump U targets grieving army war widow:
The sales pitches seeking to separate Cheryl Lankford from her money began during the recession as she struggled to get back on her feet after the death of her husband, an American soldier serving in Iraq.
Two of them were from companies that have boasted the Trump name.
One was Trump University, the real estate sales seminar that Donald J. Trump promoted as a way for average people to profit from opportunities in the housing market. Ms. Lankford said she spent $35,000 from an Army insurance payment to learn Mr. Trump’s secrets.also this one
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06...
and
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08...b
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taxes are a red herring
trump supporters - I know most of you, no the vast majority are neither stupid nor racist
yet whenever we point out trumnp flaws, the answer is always hillary !! benghazi !!!
how about addressing trumps issues for once ?1) look at how he was unable, totally unable to resist clintons needling him in the debate and his ballistics wierdness on ms universe
is he gonna go ballistic if putin dumps on him ? is that really what you want next to the nuclear button ?2) Trump lies constantly (I really shouldn't have to provide a url for this), he is a sleaze who stiffs small businessmen (a) and he is a con artist (a)
3) he draws the support of the small number of people who are crazy (c) or racist (read alt ride blogs)
4) his policies are stupid: there are fewer coal jobs cause of *technology* (same amt of coal today, fewer workers); the oil companies didn't bid on gulf cause fracking is cheaper; 20 years ago, trade and offshoring were issues; today the issue is robots and automation
5) he is really gonna round up 11 (no, not 20) million illegals ? what if all the us born kids file lawsuits demanding to stay and demanding care as orphans ? can you imagine the clusterf ? mass deportation - the lawyers employment act
6) his economic plans, to the extent he has any, are huge tax cuts for the rich
do you like national parks ? the FDA ? the nih, NTSB, ? they are in for huge cuts7) as pointed out in ny times editorial, his infrastructure program proposal is based on double dip accounting, it is a stupid proposal
8) virtually every GOP economist who served with bush I, bush II, mccain or romney thinks trump is stupid
nearly every one9) you all seem to distrust the mainstream media, but far as i can tell, benghazi and vince foster are gop delusions; no there there
okay, the email thing was stupid, but i bet dollars to donuts that if a gop person did the same, the right wing meme would be, the gov't classifies way to much stuff ,mainly to hide govt errors !! and i bet you can probably find wall str journal or national review articles to that effect !!10) when ever he looses, he whines. is that a winner ? is that really what you want as commander in chief ?
11) trashing the constitution and banning muslims (who are, this is true, *one percent us population*!!) ain't gonna help terrorism (why don't we ban ex soldiers - after all, T McVeigh ???)
Terrorism is either quasi state actors (ISIL) which requires stronger democratic states , or lone wolf teen guys - and teenage males are always with us and some are wierd; i bet if you track killings by teen age men, it is constant, what changes is their motivation whih is solely driven by wht they read in the news; if terror is big in the news, the teenager fantasizes about terror; if going postal is big, he fantasizes about terror
answer is jobs
a
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06...Trump U targets grieving army war widow:
The sales pitches seeking to separate Cheryl Lankford from her money began during the recession as she struggled to get back on her feet after the death of her husband, an American soldier serving in Iraq.
Two of them were from companies that have boasted the Trump name.
One was Trump University, the real estate sales seminar that Donald J. Trump promoted as a way for average people to profit from opportunities in the housing market. Ms. Lankford said she spent $35,000 from an Army insurance payment to learn Mr. Trump’s secrets.also this one
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06...
and
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08...b
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Re:Toys
Please cite your long list of examples of these toys being used in such a dangerous way
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-drone-near-miss-lax-20160318-story.html
http://www.forbes.com/sites/gregorymcneal/2014/07/08/two-drones-nearly-collide-with-nypd-helicopter-operators-arrested/#1294615f1db8
http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/09/travel/unmanned-drone-danger/index.html
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/dec/23/champion-skier-marcel-hirscher-has-near-miss-as-drone-falls-out-of-sky
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-30369701
http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/11/europe/uk-drone-near-miss/index.html
http://www.wsj.com/articles/faa-reports-more-aircraft-drone-near-misses-1417025519
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/05/29/ny-bound-pilot-swerves-to-avoid-collission-with-drone.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3251543/Drone-owners-forced-register-devices-tracking-database-four-near-misses-aircraft-past-month-alone.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/12180261/Number-of-near-misses-involving-drones-and-aircraft-quadruples-in-one-year.html
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-cornwall-37042796
http://gothamist.com/2016/09/20/man_maybe_arrested_drone_crash.php
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/28/us/white-house-drone.html?_r=0
http://boston.cbslocal.com/2015/05/25/drone-crashes-hits-2-people-during-marblehead-parade/
http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/22/world/drug-drone-crashes-us-mexico-border/index.html
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/more-sports/drone-crashes-stands-u-s-open-article-1.2348324
http://denver.cbslocal.com/2014/07/02/drone-crashes-in-brighton-mans-backyard/
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/08/07/drone-crashes-into-yellowstone-hot-spring/13721055/
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/drone-crash-university-kentucky-football-game-could-land-student-hot-water/
http://abcnews.go.com/US/drone-crashes-empire-state-building-man-arrested/story?id=36729221