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Slackware is close to a new release ftp://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/slack....
It just has taken longer than usual because upstream is in great turmoil and some hard decisions needed to be made regarding:
ConsoleKit/systemd (consolekit2), udev/systemd (eudev) and KDE (probably still KDE4).

All Ubuntu packages run on it with 14.04. SUSE and Redhat also have LE distributions that run on OpenPOWER systems too Take it for a spin... http://osuosl.org/services/pow...

The OSU Open Source Lab is picking up the Robot Operating System's web presence (ROS being the software that powers WillowGarage's units). It's been a long process, as they have a lot of moving pieces that we're integrating, but hopefully the entire setup will be completed next week and we'll have an announcement to make.

The OSU Open Source Lab is a donation-funded organization that supports the open source software community by providing project hosting, development, and mirrors for many open source projects. Apache, the Linux Foundation, Drupal, Busybox, Plone, PHPbb, Sahana, OpenMRS, and many others rely on the OSL for some or all of their infrastructure. http://osuosl.org/donate Full disclosure: I work for the OSL.

Eh, there have been some difficulties recently, but work continues: ftp://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/slackware/slackware-current/ChangeLog.txt
Begone, troll.

http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware-13.37/slackware/x/xorg-server-xnest-1.9.5-i486-1.txt

Xnest is an experimental nested server for X

why is anything related to X running on a server used for source control and such things?

especially because the X server executable is usually setuid root. seems to me that is asking for trouble.

and - why would anybody run experimental software on such an important server.

I guess you didn't bother to read the article.

"Trojan initially discovered due to the Xnest /dev/mem error message w/o Xnest installed; have been seen on other systems. It is unclear if systems that exhibit this message are susceptible, compromised or not. If developers see this, and you don't have Xnest installed, please investigate."

Xnest is an experimental nested server for X

why is anything related to X running on a server used for source control and such things?

especially because the X server executable is usually setuid root. seems to me that is asking for trouble.

and - why would anybody run experimental software on such an important server.

(keep in mind, they have a mirror in the midwest provided by (I think) TDS)

That is correct. We have two FTP mirrors hosted by TDS (Chicago and New York) in addition to the systems we have on campus in Crovallis.

You can see their bandwidth utilization here: http://ftpmap.osuosl.org/

Keep in mind that the Corvallis server is out of rotation currently because of some hardware issues.

We employ roughly as many programmers as sysadmins, and write plenty of code. http://code.osuosl.org/

If he doesn't make it all the way to the Seattle area, he could stop in the Portland Oregon area and visit my cool employer instead. Even Obama has stopped by for a tour. Much more to his liking is the nearby Open Source Labs.
http://osuosl.org/
Info on Obama's visit to my employer
http://www.oregonlive.com/business/index.ssf/2011/02/intel_obama_continue_difficult.html

I'm sure we could arrange a tour. I don't think I can get you into the clean FAB. Sorry.

got you covered:

http://adhoc.osgeo.osuosl.org/grass/New_Zealand/earthquakes_NZ_ChCh.png
http://adhoc.osgeo.osuosl.org/grass/archive/gns_Chch_quakes_sept2010_to_feb2011.png
http://adhoc.osgeo.osuosl.org/grass/archive/gns_NZ_quakes_sept2010_to_feb2011.png

even when you don't take the depth into account, the 6.2 one hit hard on the jaw for the city.

(it's not noted there, but thanks to GNS for the data)

got you covered:

http://adhoc.osgeo.osuosl.org/grass/New_Zealand/earthquakes_NZ_ChCh.png
http://adhoc.osgeo.osuosl.org/grass/archive/gns_Chch_quakes_sept2010_to_feb2011.png
http://adhoc.osgeo.osuosl.org/grass/archive/gns_NZ_quakes_sept2010_to_feb2011.png

even when you don't take the depth into account, the 6.2 one hit hard on the jaw for the city.

(it's not noted there, but thanks to GNS for the data)

got you covered:

http://adhoc.osgeo.osuosl.org/grass/New_Zealand/earthquakes_NZ_ChCh.png
http://adhoc.osgeo.osuosl.org/grass/archive/gns_Chch_quakes_sept2010_to_feb2011.png
http://adhoc.osgeo.osuosl.org/grass/archive/gns_NZ_quakes_sept2010_to_feb2011.png

even when you don't take the depth into account, the 6.2 one hit hard on the jaw for the city.

(it's not noted there, but thanks to GNS for the data)

Hi,

It's a common misconception that the power of a mag 9 earthquake is 10x more than an 8, or 1,000x that of a 6. It's not. It's more like 31,000x stronger than a 6. If you've ever had the misfortune to experience a 6, you can appreciate that the energy released by these big ones are rather hard to contemplate.

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/learn/topics/measure.php
        1 J = 1e7 erg
        1 PJ = 1e15 J
      Energy_petajoules = ( 10^(11.8 + 1.5*Ms) ) * 1e-07 * 1e-15

here's a picture of what this looks like, although ring size scaling has been reduced from the above formula to fit on the screen.

Le Wiki Koumbit: https://wiki.koumbit.net/AndroidFreeSoftware

The Replicant for Android list: http://trac.osuosl.org/trac/replicant/wiki/ListOfKnownFreeSoftwareApps

The Wikiperdia list: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Open_Source_Android_Applications

RAIV wasn't graphical at all, so you must be thinking of the virtual server room tour we put together 2 years ago.

The code for that is here: http://git.osuosl.org/?p=rackview.git

however theres no documentation, and likely doesn't work with the latest version of openlaszlo. It wasn't tied into our inventory system at all. I manually merged several different sources into a single xml file. We've since moved away from laszlo in favor of html+css+javascript+svg. Eventually we might rewrite this, but have no concrete plans right now.

If you really do want to see that... some digging will find you pics: http://osuosl.org/about/people :)

Two OSL staff have created and taught a system admin course at OSU: http://cs312.osuosl.org/ The content is available under Creative Commons.

We're actively working with the EECS faculty to incorporate both system administration and open source topics into the course offerings.

I work for the OSU OSL.

Actually, we're more than a mirror. While mirroring is a major part of the services we provide, we also provide hosting for many projects' core infrastructure - Apache, Linux Foundation, Drupal, kernel.org, etc. Google is a major supporter of the OSL because we provide a place for projects whose needs have outgrown the more "off-the-shelf" structured hosting provided by Google Code or Sourceforge and need a more customizable environment.

As to the single point of failure concern - I disagree for several reasons:

• We are not funded by the university. The OSL's activities are funded almost entirely by donations (both personal and corporate) and agreements with the projects we host. While we are all university employees, our wages are not paid using university dollars. Also, as part of the administrative computing organization at the university (as opposed to part of an academic department), the OSL falls under the university's CIO instead of a dean or department. The financial independence and organizational structure provides us with a significant amount of autonomy and insulation from the vagaries of university politics.
• OSU President Ed Ray has stated time and time again that the role of a land grant university in the 21st century is to provide leadership and assistance in information technology - much the same way the land grants provided support to agriculture and industry in past centuries. The OSL helps OSU fulfill that goal.
• On the FOSS community side, the OSL provides a vendor-neutral environment. We're not tied to any one distribution or manufacturer - we work with Dell, HP, and IBM all equally. The same goes for SuSE, Ubuntu, Gentoo, Red Hat, etc. IIRC, our neutrality one of the reasons master.kernel.org and the Linux Foundation reside at the OSL. We (and the university) consider that neutrality a very valuable asset.

It would take something more than a "pissed off dean" to summarily shut the OSL down.

-Greg

I work for the OSU OSL.

Actually, we're more than a mirror. While mirroring is a major part of the services we provide, we also provide hosting for many projects' core infrastructure - Apache, Linux Foundation, Drupal, kernel.org, etc. Google is a major supporter of the OSL because we provide a place for projects whose needs have outgrown the more "off-the-shelf" structured hosting provided by Google Code or Sourceforge and need a more customizable environment.

As to the single point of failure concern - I disagree for several reasons:

• We are not funded by the university. The OSL's activities are funded almost entirely by donations (both personal and corporate) and agreements with the projects we host. While we are all university employees, our wages are not paid using university dollars. Also, as part of the administrative computing organization at the university (as opposed to part of an academic department), the OSL falls under the university's CIO instead of a dean or department. The financial independence and organizational structure provides us with a significant amount of autonomy and insulation from the vagaries of university politics.
• OSU President Ed Ray has stated time and time again that the role of a land grant university in the 21st century is to provide leadership and assistance in information technology - much the same way the land grants provided support to agriculture and industry in past centuries. The OSL helps OSU fulfill that goal.
• On the FOSS community side, the OSL provides a vendor-neutral environment. We're not tied to any one distribution or manufacturer - we work with Dell, HP, and IBM all equally. The same goes for SuSE, Ubuntu, Gentoo, Red Hat, etc. IIRC, our neutrality one of the reasons master.kernel.org and the Linux Foundation reside at the OSL. We (and the university) consider that neutrality a very valuable asset.

It would take something more than a "pissed off dean" to summarily shut the OSL down.

-Greg

We're a rather bright spot on the university's record; we are the largest open-source datacenter in the hemisphere, and that causes a lot of donations to come in. Take it from Ed: http://osuosl.org/sites/osuosl.org/files/ed_ray.png Nobody will shut us down.

Seriously, if you want an open phone then go look at Maemo and the n900. That's some slick shit right there -- two cameras! Crazy Sauce! -- and they even give you root. Hallelujah!

The iPhone? You actually had any aspersions at all that you weren't buying some slick Disney-fied locked-down hood-welded-shut art object? Are you missing a more than a few brain cells?

Me, I'd like an open phone, but the n900 is a little pricey so I'm trying to find a used HTC G1 for el cheapo that I can root and run Replicant on. Sure, you have to find a way to root the Android phones, but once you do I'm pretty sure that T-mobile isn't going to try to castrate the cojones of your phone by pushing an update to you. They're going to happily take your monthly, no-contract fee and then let you use your phone in relative peace.

I love it. All these iPeoples lining up to plunk down their cash for some pretty looking but pretty-much-guaranteed-to-restrict-your-ass piece of hardware. You know that they have a word for this kind of thing, right? It's called a Siren, and you need to get your crew or your mates or whoever you hang with to keep you off the special sauce that they're serving up, piping hot.

Let's just take a look at that complaint "locks US iPhone owners into using the mobile carrier." Well no shit, Sherlock, time to fire up Spotlight and search for n00b on your Mac.

How many times do us so-called "crazy Free Software folks" have to remind you that you don't get Freedom because BillyG or SteveyJ wants to give you a Christmas bonus. You get capital-F Freedom with your phone and your software when you jump down, turn around, and buy and use the phone that gives you that Freedom. You want source code? Sure, it's all here, including the build scripts so that you can verify that you're building what you want to build and running what you want to run on your phone. If you can't root that phone and hold onto root, then Just Say No.

Time and time again this happens, and every time I hope that people will get the message, but it just never seems to sink in. So hold on just a second, let me slip into these asbestos pants and then you can go ahead and overturn an Apple Cart of fanboi vitriol on me. One day...one day maybe you'll thank us.

http://osuosl.org/ I realize that page alone doesn't speak toward the everyman experiences of linux users on campus, but I can say, they [comp support services on campus] do a very good job.

Half of all computers in engineering are Linux. OSU also hosts the osuosl. You get a free vpn client and other useful free stuff on a cd as a student.

http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware-8.1/ChangeLog.txt -- last update was 20 February 2009 :-)

This isn't definitive, but lots of "patches" aren't patches -- they're upgrades to later releases due to upstream not providing actual patches. Sometimes that's not a problem (the new release actually is ABI-stable with the older one, or the fix is easy to backport), but in other cases, the choice is either to "fix" the security problem (which often isn't *much* of a problem anyway) or to *break* the application/library (or something else that uses it).

Generally speaking, if a security issue is serious *and* it affects a network-facing service *and* it's feasible to fix, then it's fixed in $release/patches/

-RW

Since many distributions don't have it in their repositories yet, you might want to grab the source and build it yourself.

I'm willing to consider Debian Proper in exchange for a wee less Newbie-fying if that's what it takes to get a more coherent rolling experience.

Actually, I would recommend Testing. It is a little more up-to-date than Stable, and it is a better rolling release (make sure you remove the "lenny" and "lenny/security" entries from your /etc/apt/sources.list and replace them with "testing", because anything with a "lenny" label will eventually become stable.)

The interesting question becomes uBuntu vs. Debian proper. I'll have to do my research on that whole Proprietary-but-easy vs. Ultra-Free thing. But at least I'm hearing that the problems I am running into are not a mirage either.

Debian has non-free repositories. Here's a sample from my sources.list:
deb ftp://debian.osuosl.org/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free
The part that says "unstable" is where you would insert "testing", and you add "contrib" and "non-free" to the end of the entry to enable those repositories. (and /. has made a link out of my URL, ignore the TLD in square brackets)

Your other note had the crucial remark that the next version of uBuntu is the one with OO3. To me, THAT is THE killer App I need, so I will plan my entire strategy around that. I think I'm slowly evolving into the decision to use that as a trial run, and then get the NEXT LTS release (whatever animal that comes out to) as my Park distro that I camp out on and "just do work".

I don't know if they have got OOo 3 into it at this time (it isn't yet in Debian Unstable, so probably not), but Jaunty had it's second Alpha release yesterday (hmm... not downloadable yet...maybe they need a few more hours to build the disc image?)

I worked for a few years at an organization at my university, the OSU Open Source Lab http://osuosl.org/ which was founded as an effort to help give back to the open source community. The OSL now hosts a wide range of projects. Working there as a student required maintaining a large range of services for people all over the world and taught me more than I ever learned in class. If your department is starting to have some free cycles and spare hardware and spare bandwidth perhaps you can offer your resources to help support some of the projects that you have depended on over the years. Feel free to contact the guys at the OSL, perhaps they could help you get started. I know the OSL's mirrors http://ftp.osuosl.org/ could use some more bandwidth, perhaps you could partner with them to provide another mirror node. Cheers,

I worked for a few years at an organization at my university, the OSU Open Source Lab http://osuosl.org/ which was founded as an effort to help give back to the open source community. The OSL now hosts a wide range of projects. Working there as a student required maintaining a large range of services for people all over the world and taught me more than I ever learned in class. If your department is starting to have some free cycles and spare hardware and spare bandwidth perhaps you can offer your resources to help support some of the projects that you have depended on over the years. Feel free to contact the guys at the OSL, perhaps they could help you get started. I know the OSL's mirrors http://ftp.osuosl.org/ could use some more bandwidth, perhaps you could partner with them to provide another mirror node. Cheers,

I use NeoOffice instead of MS Office.

Have you given OOov3 a try? It's still beta 2 as of now, but I personally like it better than NeoOffice; the only thing that crashed on me was their database software; everything else seems quite stable.
*nawcom prepares to be modded Off-topic by grumpy moderators*

http://openoffice.bouncer.osuosl.org/?product=OpenOffice.org&os=macosxintelaqua&lang=en-US&version=3.0.0beta2

http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent http://torrents.thepiratebay.org/4153415/Ubuntu_8.04_Hardy_Heron_-_Desktop_i386.4153415.TPB.torrent http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso http://mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/ubuntu-releases/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso http://mirrors.ccs.neu.edu/releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso http://mirrors.rit.edu/ubuntu-releases/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso http://ubuntu.media.mit.edu/ubuntu-releases/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso http://ubuntu.osuosl.org/releases/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso http://banner.uits.indiana.edu/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/CDs/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso ----- Features: http://techwatch.reviewk.com/2008/04/ubuntu-hardy-heron-8-04-2/

The server was overloaded; it's back up now, but in case it becomes unstable again... Cached lists of mirrors (for all versions):

        * http://www.ubuntu.com.nyud.net/getubuntu/downloadmirrors
        * http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ubuntu.com%2Fgetubuntu%2Fdownloadmirrors

Torrent for 8.04 desktop version i386 ISO:

        * http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
        * http://torrents.thepiratebay.org/4153415/Ubuntu_8.04_Hardy_Heron_-_Desktop_i386.4153415.TPB.torrent
            (Piratebay mirror because official tracker is unstable)

Direct links to 8.04 desktop version i386 ISOs:

        * http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso
        * http://mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/ubuntu-releases/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso
        * http://mirrors.ccs.neu.edu/releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso
        * http://mirrors.rit.edu/ubuntu-releases/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso
        * http://ubuntu.media.mit.edu/ubuntu-releases/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso
        * http://ubuntu.osuosl.org/releases/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso
        * http://banner.uits.indiana.edu/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso
        * http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/CDs/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso

Here are some links:
http://olpc.osuosl.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1414
http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/olpc-open/2007-December/thread.html#459

The general reason given for ending G1G1 was that it was a strain on the OLPC volunteers. See especially Nicole Lee's post http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/olpc-open/2007-December/000474.html

I just went to one of their mirrors and found out.

Check this out: http://gentoo.osuosl.org/releases/x86/

How many CDs will it take to ship all of that?

I dunno... probably somewhere around 21.

I think you meant to say:

Download Live cd and boot.
net-setup eth0 (or just use ifconfig :) )
cfdisk /dev/hda
mke2fs -j /dev/hda1
mke2fs -j /dev/hda3
mkswap /dev/hda2
swapon /dev/hda2
mount /dev/hda3 /mnt/gentoo
mkdir /mnt/gentoo/boot
mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/gentoo/boot
cd /mnt/gentoo/
wget http://gentoo.osuosl.org/releases/x86/current/stag es/stage3-i686-2006.1.tar.bz2
tar xjpf stage3*
cd /
mount -t proc proc /mnt/gentoo/proc
cp -L /etc/resolv.conf /mnt/gentoo/etc/
chroot /mnt/gentoo /bin/bash
env-update && source /etc/profile
emerge --sync
emerge portage
date
passwd
cp /usr/share/zoneinfo/America\Los_Angeles /etc/localtime
cd /etc
echo "127.0.0.1 mybox.at.myplace mybox localhost" > hosts
sed -i -e 's/HOSTNAME.*/HOSTNAME="mybox"/' conf.d/hostname
hostname mybox
download and compile kernel from Kernel.org
emerge lilo syslog-ng dcron dhcpcd
cd /etc
nano -w fstab
cd conf.d
echo 'config_eth0=( "192.168.1.10/24" )' >> net
echo 'routes_eth0=( "default via 192.168.1.1" )' >> net
rc-update add net.eth0 default
rc-update add sshd default
rc-update add syslog-ng default
crontab /etc/crontab
nano -w /etc/lilo.conf
lilo
exit
umount /mnt/gentoo/proc /mnt/gentoo/boot /mnt/gentoo
reboot


Source: My brain, and http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-x86-quickinsta ll.xml

• Home of Intel
• Home of Hewlett-Packard
• Home of Tektronix, FLIR, Mentor Graphics
• Linus Trovalds moved to Portland from the SF Bay Area
• O'Reilly Open Source Convention
• Government Open Source Conference
• Open Source Development Labs (OSDL)
• Large free Wireless project Personal Telco
• New PSU Open Source lab
• 5th largest Craigslist community (2004)
• Corporate HQ of Lattice Semiconductor, RadiSys, Planar Systems
• Home of Sun Microsystems High-End Operations
• Yahoo!, FEI, Credence Systems, and TriQuint Semiconductor located here

ftp://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/pculture.org/democracy/sr c/

Reiser said Sturgeon "worked with my wife Nina Reiser and eventually drugged her with ecstasy and seduced her." Reiser alleged, "He then engaged in Bondage, Domination, Sadism and Masochism techniques and continued to redrug her repeatedly over time." He said Sturgeon engaged in those techniques "in an effort to show that he was a better man than I and to convince my wife Nina to conspire with him to steal the Namesys Inc. company assets." He said Sturgeon engaged in those techniques "in an effort to show that he was a better man than I and to convince my wife Nina to conspire with him to steal the Namesys Inc. company assets." Reiser alleged that, "Sean has threatened to have me beaten up by some of his associates in illegal activities and that he would hurt me, my mother or my children if he did not get what he wanted." He also accused Sturgeon of engaging in extortion by threatening to make calls to the Internal Revenue Service to report him and his mother. In addition, Reiser alleged that Sturgeon wrote into a contract that Reiser must participate in "Death Yoga," which he said has the purpose of "slowing down one's heart to the point of death."

And watch, I bet I get bad karma for just trying to point out that it seems (to the untrained eye) that he might have bad karma.

I don't know if it's all that sad... I'd never really heard anything of the guy before this, other than his name attached to his FS, and the wikipedia article was rather sparse, so I google'd around to get an idea of who he is.

You call for sympathy for the man, but as far as I can tell from this interview, and a few random forum threads around the internet, he seems like a really smart and clever, well-educated guy, a really good programmer, but kind of an arrogant douche. I mean, he talks about how he hates homework and wishes you could just study and then discuss to prove your knowledge, but then he stresses the importance of code review and benchmarking (which seem, to me, the "homework" of programming tasks) and belittles his own employees for not doing it well enough.

I'm not trying to flame the guy out or anything. Like I said, I knew nothing about him before my last 15 minutes of searching, but from what I saw in that little sliver (and I know that doesn't provice me a fully developed mental image of the man) it seems like he might deserve some of the jokes.

I'd say if you have sympathy or money to donate - give it to the kids.

And watch, I bet I get bad karma for just trying to point out that it seems (to the untrained eye) that he might have bad karma.

Chris Dawson from Box Populi here.

Greg Lund-Chaix (http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/08/01/22342 54) from the OSL and I just did a talk on this very thing at the Podcast and Portable Media Expo. You can read more about his presentation here: http://staff.osuosl.org/~gchaix/2006/09/30/asteris k-and-podcasting/

There are a lot of people who find Splunk very impressive.

Take Corey Shields who runs OSL (Open Source Labs). OSL hosts many of the world's largest Open Source Projects: Linux Kernel, Firefox, Open Office, debian, etc.
http://staff.osuosl.org/~cshields/?p=139

or perhaps Ben Rockwood sysadmin extraordinaire as well as OpenSolaris advocate:
http://www.cuddletech.com/blog/pivot/entry.php?id= 637

Not sure why your browser is slow on your laptop. Take a look at demo.splunk.com . Zippy on every browser I've tried.

I am not sure, but Maintain seems like the kind of thing you are looking for: http://osuosl.org/projects/maintain/

Although, looking at it, it seems to be specific to dhcpd3 and djbdns...

Anyway, I thought I would just throw it out here for consideration.

Actually, the Mozilla website and all that is hosted by the Oregon State University's Open Source Labs. So from Mozilla's point of view, the bandwidth and all that *is* free indeed.

I agree the summary should have more context ...

OSU OSL is Oregon State University Open Source Labs.

This is a project that manages infrastructure (machines, bandwidth) for many open source projects.

Their list of projects include Debian, Drupal, Gentoo, Mozilla and others ...

So, it is really good news, since the longevity of these projects are better (not that they were in danger or anything).

Disclaimer: I contribute to Drupal.

A few other things from the article that need correcting: 1) not web 'scramblers' but web 'scammers' :-) and 2) The number 100 was a joke, I meant a number much larger than that but we don't talk about the number of machines that we release. For more info about our open source efforts and to see the code that we've released, see Code.Google.com

Chris

Dearest Zonk,

Allow me to introduce you to

Bouncer.

Bouncer is driving all of the downloadsfor the Mozilla Foundation.