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The scumbag's explicit reference to guillotine shows, the French terror is what he wants for this country. He may be too stupid to do very much to advance this goal, but he is still a scumbag — just the kind to stand out there masked and shouting "Communism will win".

Adherents of the vilest and deadliest school of thought known to humanity, responsible for millions of deaths and economic devastation of entire countries, these people somehow remain acceptable for the polite society — and even find sympathetic moderators to upvote their murderous rhetoric. All the while, for example, the stupid schmucks of the (relatively) harmless KKK are hunted and persecuted as if they were Satan incarnates.

Apparently they are paying about $12 Billion a year that remains with the US government

Yes I included the voter fraud commission, just because it was disbanded doesn't mean it was a bad idea, just means this commission didn't work out but voter fraud is a serious issue and Trump should be applauded for at least trying to tackle it https://www.nbcnews.com/politi...

Voter fraud is not a problem in the US.

I can't recall how many times I heard some Republican claim "oh we found rock solid evidence of 1000 cases of voter fraud!" and you'll later hear that at least 999 of them turned out to be due to crappy government databases and the remaining one almost certainly was as well... but there's also a small chance it was a green card holder who got confused. The GOP just keeps pushing the lie because it serves as an excuse to implement voter IDs, and when you insist that voters need ID to vote, and minorities who vote Democrat are disproportionately likely to lack IDs, then you suppress some of the Democratic vote.

The only kind of voter fraud that might be frequent enough to change elections is with mail-in ballots. But here the fraud (if it really is significant) is more likely to be from husbands "ensuring" their wives vote correctly, and since men vote Republican the GOP doesn't care. But again, we don't really know if this is significant.

And that is fundamentally why the commission was disbanded. Because voter fraud doesn't exist the Republicans had to fabricate evidence, and because they had to fabricate evidence the couldn't share documents with the Democrats, and because the court ordered them to share documents they had to scrap the whole endeavour.

Americans not wanting to spend money (e.g. higher taxes) on infrastructure

Certainly not. We are talking about NYC — the singular city in the most corrupt State in the nation.

The recent painting of the Brooklyn Bridge costed well more than the original building of the structure did in 1883 (inflation-adjusted, of course).

You expect us, the taxpayers, to willingly give even more money to these people?

MTA should have replaced the sleepy fleshware, whose reactions and ability to communicate with each other are horrible even when they are awake, with computers — driving a train is much simpler for a computer, than driving a car, for example. They were trying to do it in 2005, and still haven't.

Just as with the public schools, it is not about the money...

Nope, that's still a Bush policy. To be fair, Obama's administration would instead tell other countries where "people of interest" were and let those other countries arrest them. In many countries that's likely to get the arrested person tortured, but it's at least a small step in a better direction.

Cool! Then I guess the rest of the world will be fine with us slashing our 22% funding of the UN general funds (and 28% of all peacekeeping costs) and letting someone else fund that role for a while...

And CNN, MSNBC, et al. haven't trained their viewers too, for the bigots and falsifiers on the opposite side of the spectrum?

Even when CNN leaks debate questions to a presidential candidate? https://www.washingtonpost.com...
Or Don Lemon says mostly anyone can go out and buy and automatic weapons? http://www.politifact.com/pund...
When three "investigative journalists" from CNN lie so badly they resign over a false story about Scaramucci? http://www.latimes.com/busines...
Or when it deliberately writes a misleading headline to make Trump look uninformed: "Trump asks Japan to build cars in the U.S. It already does" by using a partial quote that deflects the reality of his statement: http://money.cnn.com/2017/11/0...
Or when NBC doctors a 911 tape to make Zimmerman sound like he's explicitly following Martin just for being black when in truth he was asked by the operator to describe the person's race? https://www.theatlantic.com/en...
Confirmation bias is a two way street; it's amusing but not unexpected to see it at work on a person who, in an echo chamber of their own, believes it only exists on the other side.

Stop peddling lies Lynnwood. You already know thats false as shown to you already here

See, the problem is you only accept data that you BELIEVE is correct, and ignore all other.

Mirror, mirror, Is LynnwoodRooster talking about himself again? Why, yes, ironically he is.

You're the one who produced a report that you accepted with blind faith and devotion since it suited your agenda.

When has that happened before?

A real scientist, a true skeptic (which is the foundation of science) would look at conflicting data and say "more research needed, we cannot draw conclusions". FAITH would demand you adhere to your position. That is religion...

Yes, you are preaching your religion, but if you were a true believer, you'd follow its tenets, however being a disingenuous fraud and con-artist, you simply use them as a club to attack others, as you consistently have.

For you, it is not a teaching, it is a weapon used for assault. You fling it against any who disagree with you, but never apply the learning to yourself.

Hence, I preach unto you, and say "Physician, heal thyself!" as I call upon you, and your multitude of sins to be cured of what clearly ails you, and thus make right thine own entry into Heaven.

Really, you know your history, you should know you are tainted yourself. You should reflect on your errors and come clean. It'd be less of a farce if you did.

I don't know which Harvard study you're talking about, so I did a search for 'in-person voter fraud peer-reviewed study'. These were the first two links from Duck Duck Go:

But a look at the facts makes clear fraud is vanishingly rare, and does not happen on a scale even close to that necessary to “rig” an election.

In-person voter fraud ‘a very rare phenomenon’

That first link has many links of its own, to papers from NYU, Columbia University, Arizona State, etc. Nothing from Harvard though.

I appreciate your willingness to accommodate my distaste for video references, but I don't see how recordings of shenanigans are supposed to demonstrate anything. If you show me an hour's worth of video showing people committing fraud, and I show you nine hours of people voting without fraud, does that mean that 10% of votes are fraudulent? No. What If I show you ninety nine hours, does that mean it's 1%? No. So what have we actually demonstrated here? Nothing, it's just anecdote.

That's what the studies are for. If you see an event, you can't just assume that event is commonplace. That's something you have to measure, and that takes work.

It turns out this 'officially' the 18th mass shooting this year

I'm not saying you aren't sincere in what you've heard, but it's also difficult to have a sensible conversation when one side is constantly spreading lies and propaganda. There haven't been 18 shootings this year, unless you count things like an accidental discharge from a cop's pistol which hurt no one.

The reality is that the U.S. Homicide rate is at a 51-year low, gun homicides are down 49% in the last 20 years and gun crime has also been cut in half over the last 20 years.

- Paying for political advertisements
- Paying others to troll social media for you

Could you cite the actual statutes, please? The summary I read cites nothing of the kind — the individuals are indicted for fraud and identity theft. These are very real and nasty crimes, whether or not they are related to elections and regardless of whether perpetrators are Americans or foreigners.

- Making campaign contributions

Unless the donation is to a "charity", owned and run by a candidate, right?

He's an awful human being

And yet, you still have to call him "President" — and I smile every time I realize this. Imagining the expressions on the faces of your kind is why I for one started rooting for Trump, back when Jeb! was the favorite among Republicans.

But, of course, your spectacular hysterics, the exposure of your hypocrisy (such as the sudden love for the FBI and the NSA) are mere gravy on top of the economic boom, the actual energy independence), destruction of ISIS, and the bloodying of Russia's nose.

and should be removed

For that to happen, there must be proof — beyond reasonable doubt — of high crimes and misdemeanors having been committed by him. Seems rather unlikely, because — after 9 months of a Special Prosecutor busily prosecuting, you not only can't substantiate it, you can't even state a coherent accusation.

"Clueless", "narcissistic", "son of a bitch" (nice insult against his mother, BTW, congratulations) — these aren't evidence of a misdemeanor, much less of a crime. TFA does not help your goals of sabotaging the President in the slightest.

TRY to do better next time, or at least don't bother voting.

How interesting... So, you openly admit, you wish to disenfranchise all those, who vote differently from you... I wonder, what possible beef you can have with Russia...

You can be butthurt all you want

You certainly seem to be much more butthurt, than I can possibly wish you to be. Thank you for this post, it delighted me on a rainy afternoon. Have a great President's Day weekend.

Are we now seeing why "The Boy who Cried Wolf" and "Chicken Little" fables were important to learn when you were a child?
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You wanted to blame Russia! Russia! Russia! just to undermine Trump

Thanks for the note, comrade. However, it would be more convincing if Trump himself wasn't constantly making false and pants-on-fire statements all the time.

When liberals accuse CNN of fake news, they mean CNN caught red-handed deliberately lying.

When Trumpites speak of "fake news" they mean anything that does not fit their agenda.

FTFY. Really, you shouldn't have picked a topic that is so easily refuted.

Right, and pretty much any truly-interesting political statement is going to be about what strategy is best. And what strategy is best, depends on what your goals and values are. They're totally subjective.
Imagine a political statement like "the federal reserve should raise [or lower, take your pick] the interest rate by 0.25%." You can't tell someone else whether or not that's true or false for them. At best you can tell them whether or not it's a good idea for achieving what you want.

To be fair: neither snopes nor politifact fact checks opinions. None of the examples you made up are the kinds of things either one runs an article factchecking. They fact check only the things expressed as facts.

There is a saying "you are entitled to your own opinion, but you are not entitled to your own facts." I agree with that.

While it's true not everything is black and white, the problem with sites like politifact is, after reviewing the facts, the final judgment of their meter is still subjective.

I don't care about the "final judgement of their meter". I care about the fact that they cite sources that I can check myself.

I've seen evidence of bias in their final judgments before, but the coffin nail for their objective credibility was, for me, when they rated Michele Obama's statement "slaves built the White House", as a very positive "Mostly True". Their own research concluded that slaves were used to quarry the raw stone that was used to form the bricks of the building, which were further cut, refined, and placed by skilled masons. Slaves also did much of the white washing at the end. However, the rest of the labor were freemen, white and black, as well as European contractors: Architects designed the building. Masons carved and fitted the bricks (probably the bulk of the building aspect). Carpenters built much of the structure as well. Glass, marble, and tile workers did their thing. Skilled labor collectively did most of the building, yet her statement excludes them in totality.

OK. And, how do you happen to know that? Oh: you know it because you read the article! (which says exactly what you just said-- you are quoting them.)

So, you're really telling me you yourself personally use politifact as an unbiased source of facts. That's ironic. You don't want other people to use it, but you use it yourself.

Equating the quarrying of stone to "building the white house" is like claiming that Home Depot built your house, because that's where you got your building supplies from. Or claiming the people who painted your house built it. Her declaration was also slightly misleading in that the White House did not force anyone to directly work for free, the gov't paid for everything - the question is whether slave owners who got paid bothered to share it with the slaves or not. From what I can gather, some did, though I doubt their slaves had any say in whether they wanted to do the job or not!

and your source for this is.... Politifact.

In any case, the picture comes across as the country forcing slaves to build the White House, and without compensation, much like how we used to believe the pyramids were built. This is simply inaccurate and should have rated a Mostly False or maybe a Partly True at best.
So my judgment is, no, they do not do a good enough job when it comes to the bottom line, they let their bias affect their final score.

Interestingly, they have an article discussing the objections to their rating of "true" for that story.

Sites like Snopes and Politifact do an admirable job of identifying false information

Bullshit. They politicize the hell out of it. Something is either true or false. They are both filled with "True, but" conditionals.

Snopes.com and Politifact both have categories of "mixed" (snopes) or "half true" (politifact), yes. And they explain what parts are true and what parts are false. You know what? Sometimes politicians (or other people) say things that are part true and partly not true. That's not "politicizing it"-- that is recognizing the real world

Many things are not simply true or false. Many times they are misleading. Both of these sites do a good job in identifying misleading information and label them as such.

Exactly. And, more important, they cite sources so you can go look at the information and decide for yourself. That's what I really want: links to data. And that's what the fake news is always missing.

Has been busted fabricating news ON VIDEO, no less than 2 DOZEN times in the past decade alone...

So like nothing compared to the record of Fox News?

Governor Andrew Cuomo unveiled a plan earlier this month to develop $6 billion of offshore wind projects off the southern coast of Long Island by 2028

The governor of the most corrupt state in the union announcing plans to spend $6 billion more of taxpayers' dollars on a project no one wants badly enough to voluntarily put their own money into.

Slashdot cheers.

Not when you take the cost of living into account. Which is very significant given your claim that there was no real difference in the economies.

TRUE: California has the nation's highest poverty rate, when factoring in cost-of-living

Looking at state poverty rates, the second highest is Florida's 19 percent, followed by New York's and Louisiana's shared 17.9 percent rate. The national average is 15.1 percent using the supplemental measure.

"I think Assemblymember Mayes' comments are accurate," said Chris Hoene, executive director of the left-leaning California Budget Policy Center, which has closely studied poverty in the state.

Hoene said the high poverty rate in the supplemental report is driven by California's stratospheric housing costs. He added that use of the supplemental measure has gained wide acceptance among researchers.

"I think in most quarters, that's not disputed," he said.

Marybeth Mattingly, a researcher at the Stanford Center on Poverty and Inequality added by email: "Basically, yes, this statement is (sadly) accurate."

Sorry, it's true. The US Census Bureau's own data says so - and Politifact (hardly a right-wing site) confirms it is, indeed, a valid claim. California has the highest poverty rate when you factor in the cost of living.

From your link: "If you look at the official poverty measure in California, we’re about average with the rest of the country," Mayes said.

And from the actual report it references: "The ITWG stated that the official poverty measure, as defined in Office of Management and Budget Statistical Policy Directive No. 14, will not be replaced by the SPM. They noted that the official measure is sometimes identified in legislation regarding program eligibility and funding distribution, while the SPM will not be used in this way. "

Adjusting the poverty measure for cost state-wide cost of living is stupid because most of the people living in poverty don't live in the high cost of living areas of the state. The cost of living in somewhere like Barstow is much lower than the national average but since millionaires in Mountain View are paying a lot for their houses a person making a decent living in Barstow is suddenly "in poverty" even though their local cost of living is low. The measure might be useful to identify people in poverty in narrow areas but to apply it to a whole state makes no sense.

Sorry, it's true. The US Census Bureau's own data says so - and Politifact (hardly a right-wing site) confirms it is, indeed, a valid claim. California has the highest poverty rate when you factor in the cost of living.

California's debt passed $400 billion under Moonbeam, and the deficit is back. But we'll tax more and borrow more, that'll fix it! Never mind that California has the highest poverty rate and is firmly in the bottom half in terms of educational quality. At least we get warnings that just about everything can cause cancer!

Doesn't pay them too well given that California has the highest poverty rate per the US Census' supplemental poverty measure. Seems to make a lot of people very poor...

No one worries about issues of propaganda when it was the MSM's version of fake news.

Actually the media is obsessed with navel gazing over accuracy. The "fake news" Trump complains about, on the other hand, is essentially just objective reality. Seriously, look at how often that man lies about obvious and easily disprovable things. Politifact Washington Post.

Only the most die hard Trump supporter would think a man who has decimated our standing in the world, weakened key government institutions, attacked the rule of law and our sense of reality, attacked the free press, and been a lightening rod for extremists, nazis, and racists here at home was the better candidate. Unless you think Roy Moore was better than Doug Jones, in which case you are so detached from reality you should know this: The rest of the country is getting tired of having your denials and whining fits continue to drag us down when the rest of the country wants progress. Trump is trying his hardest to make this country into a despotic shithole. Countries he obsesses over, like Norway? LIBERAL. Deal with that.

No one worries about issues of propaganda when it was the MSM's version of fake news.

Actually the media is obsessed with navel gazing over accuracy. The "fake news" Trump complains about, on the other hand, is essentially just objective reality. Seriously, look at how often that man lies about obvious and easily disprovable things. Politifact Washington Post.

Only the most die hard Trump supporter would think a man who has decimated our standing in the world, weakened key government institutions, attacked the rule of law and our sense of reality, attacked the free press, and been a lightening rod for extremists, nazis, and racists here at home was the better candidate. Unless you think Roy Moore was better than Doug Jones, in which case you are so detached from reality you should know this: The rest of the country is getting tired of having your denials and whining fits continue to drag us down when the rest of the country wants progress. Trump is trying his hardest to make this country into a despotic shithole. Countries he obsesses over, like Norway? LIBERAL. Deal with that.

Politifact agreed with you, provided you consider 2009 to be the deficit Bush left for Obama, but if you consider Bush's last full year was FY'2008, not so much.

Bush never had a deficit greater than $0.5T while in office, Obama never had a deficit lower than $0.5T in 8 years.

Then again, I very carefully used the word 'debt' which is the accumulation of annual deficits, the two are not interchangeable.

they're spending that money on people. It's mostly wars. 7 wars actually (Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, Somalia, Yemen, Libya and Syria). After that it's keeping old people alive. See here. 70% of our budget is wars and keeping old folks alive. Now, I'm not opposed to the old folks (I am to the wars).

...best propaganda has a seed of truth in it.

When it's entirely true and presented accurately, that's news. When DJT lies to the world and the MSM calls him out on it, that's reporting not propaganda. Certainly not slander. The facts coming from DJT are propaganda and he barely bothers with the "seeds of truth".

81% whites murdered by blacks

That's straight from the White House. And that's just the latest of hundreds.

Mistrust of the government is a result of propaganda by corporations that want to profit by supplying services that the government could/should provide.

Mistrust of the government is based on them lying to us (citations below) and playing favorites on who they help and don't help (I'm looking at you SBA with your special set asides for everyone but white males). I don't mind the concept of the government stepping in given the right circumstances. I do mind how the government won't be honest and how it has chosen to explicitly discriminate against me.

Citations:

Vietnam https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... Iraq https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... NSA http://www.politifact.com/trut...

I think that you are referring to Medicare legislation passed under Bush with a gop majority, which prevents the US government from negotiating medication prices.

You'all corporate fascists want to call out the dem majority, but they only held it for six months until Kennedy got brain cancer and Lieberman switched back to voting with the gop. Of course they did manage to save the economy and deliver some improvements to medical insurance, so we can all be grateful for that.

FWIU, you go to DMV with something like a birth certificate or SS card and you get a voter ID free of charge. What's the problem?

In rural areas, DMV offices are typically open 1 day a month or less. If your boss won't give you time off from work to get your ID, then you have to choose between getting fired and getting the vote. If you are living hand-to-mouth, as most poor people are forced to, then you pick keeping your job over being able to vote.

is the upkeep on our Empire (aka "Defense Spending") and keeping old people alive (SS and Medicare). Here's a nice, well researched write up. I say 1/4 because another 4% is vetrans, and it's only that high because of our Empire...

Medicare has absurdly high payout rates vs it's overhead. There's virtually no waste there and what little there is comes from laws passed by right wing legislatures (Republicans and Blue-Dog Dems) that prevent the government from negotiating lower prices.

Now, that 25% isn't anything to sneeze at, but it's also spread out over 9 categories, with one of the categories being 'Remainder'. You're going to find a lot of that is stuff like the farm subsidies that keep our food supply consistent, the FDA, Patent office, FBI, etc, etc. Things you probably don't want to cut.

My point is, government isn't _nearly_ as wasteful as you think it is. It sounds crazy when the government wastes $1 billion until you realize that's just not a lot of money to a country of 350 million people with a $57k per capita GDP

The other two replies to this currently are buried - so I'll add one more that has some karma attached and might make it past the zero-filter.

The 'town' that you are citing was made-up and fake, and created by a website like The Onion.

http://www.politifact.com/pund...

Had you really care, instead of being either a knee-jerk fool or a paid shill (I vote for shill) you'd check those internet-emails you get before positing them on websites.

Good thing Hilldog only got to sell Uranium to Russia and not the entire country.

I'm astonished how many redneck Trump voters who believe this even after it's been debunked, even by republicans. It must be fun living in a fairy tale universe where saying something three times makes it true.

https://www.snopes.com/hillary...
https://www.factcheck.org/2015...

Meanwhile, in the real world, I'd be far more worried about a president who lies so much. I''m not saying that Hillary Rodham Clinton is a honest person, but Donald John Trump has taken outright fabrication to a whole new level.

http://www.politifact.com/pers...

2. The majority of Americans did want the ACA

No, they didn't: http://www.politifact.com/trut...

Your bias is showing.

you of course realize that every western country BUT the US has voter ID laws.

Are you sure?

http://www.politifact.com/texa...

According to that article the UK does not require an ID (except Northern Ireland). Nor does Denmark, Australia or New Zealand.

Some other western countries only require an ID when someone's identity is in doubt.

Canada accepts multiple non-photo IDs such as a prescription label or a library card.

Other western countries do require a photo ID but make them easy to get and in some cases even require that people have an ID.

Oh sorry, cold fjord, that is not supporting the claim above:

Most immigrants end up costing the government more a lot more in services than they ever pay in taxes.

Note the immigrants part does not mention legality or not, therefore, you'd have to factor in both. Except your report does not even attempt to reflect all immigration, so it is not even necessary to point out the flaws in it, because well, you neglected to address the issue of immigration in the entirety at all.

Ooops! Your bad there. You needed to consider net immigration.

Sorry, but those numbers work out differently regardless.

However, I've never really had anybody defend that position with actual quotes, taken in context about some topic that's actually material to the governing of the country.

Then you haven't bothered to look. 20 seconds on google would get you endless lists of his lies documented and refuted or explained. Serious news organization are keeping track of them.

I get that he's abrasive and spouts off stuff of questionable sources at times, but I don't see him as the kind that just lies to hear himself speak, or lies for political advantage like some from the other side of the isle have in the past.

Then you are truly a clueless idiot.

"Tapped my wires" tweet which was widely condemned as a lie but was pretty much true looking back on what we know now.

I don't know where you get your information but it was a lie then and it is a lie now. There is no evidence for this claim.

The Trump landslide where he got more votes than any other candidate ever

I don't know how you do math, but Trump did not win by a land slide, not even close: http://www.politifact.com/trut...

I do my math with great sarcasm. Trump had less votes.

The Trump landslide where he got more votes than any other candidate ever

I don't know how you do math, but Trump did not win by a land slide, not even close: http://www.politifact.com/trut...

Here is the thing asswipe. I fucking HATE Trump. Absolutely fucking detest the asshole. I'm not remotely defending Trump or the CDC director.

Sorry, but that doesn't necessarily cover all of the people who are defending Trump, the CDC director, the Confederacy, the Third Reich, and Satan himself.

Somehow I seriously doubt that they banned those words and then suddenly decide, oh we decided to unban them now. You give this administration entirely too much credit.

You're right, what most likely happened is they tried to scrub those words, but got more of a backlash when word got out, so they're insisting that they never actually officially ordered a ban on those words.

And how can we prove it? Where are the tapes? Oh yeah.

I seriously hate all the fucking politicians in this country, but for fuck sakes, this advice was obviously given to try to help ram their budget through a GOP controlled Congress that loses its goddamn mind over anything that doesn't fit the fairy tales in the Bible. Some would argue that excluding these words is in fact a pragmatic action.

I would argue that considering these words as necessary to exclude, is in fact, a condemnation of the current GOP Congress and its tendency to lose its goddamned mind over anything and everything that somehow manages to arise their easily provoked ire.

I mean, some of us remember the GOP freaking out over the word choices of the Obama administration, and I suspect many of them actually think that there's an actual literal war on Christmas or something of that ilk.

red-state is good for business (and giving attractive tax breaks)

...which are financed by blue states.

That's right, the country simply could not afford to be all red states, because at some point they would run out of other people's money!

Uh no, actually, the current era began with an incident on

Well I didn't really want to go that far back, but if we really want to we can start with 60 minutes back in the 1970's. I'm sure you already know that one.

Oh, if you want to go there, then let's go back to your old friend in the Publishing business. Or even....a made up incident!

But hey, at least you aren't going to war because of jealousy.

Meanwhile, oops... you believed another hoax!

Man, that is a crazy conspiracy Mashiki, and you don't even have a reason to blame the... You know, you wouldn't sound so crazy if you didn't make up such hysterical bullshit, but stuck to facts. Actual provable events.

Not your foaming at the mouth hyperbole.

Guess that's why some schools in the UK have seen a 2800% increase in kids suddenly claiming to be trans right?

Oh no! BIG HUGE PERCENTAGES! C'mon, you lying bullshitter, you know when you make blind claims of 2800% you'd just making yourself an obvious joke. You might as well complain that Hogwarts has had an outbreak of Goblin Flu for all the legitimacy that your complaints have.

Not been paying attention at all? I guess not.

Oh, is this like the time you wanted me to believe Satanic Worship was going on? Spare me your hysteria! You know what your moral panic doesn't mention? That the parents mentioned NOTHING other than a name change, a longer hair-style and different clothes. THE HORRORS!

Here's a real problem. Or this one. Or this!

Nope, I'm a citizen of the United States, and you may not understand this, but I want healthcare EVERYWHERE in my country, and more to the point, there are some practical considerations that necessitate my ability to cross state lines to get healthcare, as the boundaries of states were not set according to population or economics

How do you think it works in Canada?

According to you, it's apparently a death trap.

You know the single payer system that the left loves in droves? Each province is responsible for the level of healthcare. The federal government has no input. The fact that you want some bureaucrat in Washington to decide if Atlanta gets a new hospital is sure telling.

I sure don't want the idiots in Georgia deciding I get access to a hospital or not. And to be honest, they're not so good at paving their own roads. Or managing their own elections. Or staying away from other people's water. They need adult supervision. Sorry, but it's true.

Everybody everywhere has rationed healthcare. That's because health care resources are not infinite or unlimited.

Except the part where healthcare is rationed because the government is unwilling to pay for it right?

Nope, not when it's the insur

That the Moore signing in the yearbook was forged was fake news that Fox put out and they retracted the story after they had spread it around. Breitbart and other news kept their copies of the stories even after Fox retracted the source story.

http://thehill.com/homenews/me...
http://www.politifact.com/trut...

I find it twisted that Republicans are the ones who complain about fake news the most, except the news they watch and read puts out much more fake news than most mainstream media. I guess it's the same as Trump having called Clinton a liar, when he's Mr. 5 public lies a day.

Uh, you do realize that the "open borders doors policy" from Hillary Clinton came from her emails? They literally said they wanted open borders.

I realize that you like to lie about that a lot.

Troll harder.

Is that your name now? I thought BlueStrat was the only person signing their posts.

Uh, you do realize that the "open borders doors policy" from Hillary Clinton came from her emails? They literally said they wanted open borders.

I realize that you like to lie about that a lot.

Troll harder.

Is that your name now? I thought BlueStrat was the only person signing their posts.

Charities are often scams on both sides. e.g. The Clinton Global Fund.

Sorry, but the Clinton Global Fund has been assessed as not a scam, nor has its parent entity.

Why did it's funding go dry the day the bitch lost?

Why did the GOP tell so many lies about it?

Sorry HornWumpus, but you've discredited yourself.

You're just too much of a partisan ideologue.

PS:

Increasing the average farm plot size should be a goal.

It is. Of the Corporate Farming Oligarchy.

Stop being an ignorant mouthpiece, at least insist on being an informed one.

Then again, you're obsessed with the losing candidate, while the winning one just might be incapable of feeding himself in a few weeks.

Why weren't you saying the same thing when Obama signed his 800 mile border wall extension in 2013 ?

It's just trump is evil ?

Probably because in reality, what Obama was doing was different, namely a measured and considered response that reflected a rational desire to mitigate harm that was based on acutal problems, and not the blatant hyperbole that Trump resorted to, which is really Trump's own fault because of his personal lack of temperance and desire to concoct imagined demons to fight. In fact, he himself rejected the fencing of the Bush and Obama days in preference to his own concrete edifice. Among other castigations.

You see, some of us haven't forgotten that Trump denounced Democrats for "an open door policy" that was entirely his concoction while falsely claiming phony successes of his own.

But hey, great that you're admitting that Trump lied. One lie down, dozens to go!