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It's been years since I used it but the free version used to work on both Linux and Windows. The website says it works on Mac ,Solaris, and HP. http://www.realvnc.com/

http://www.realvnc.com/products/ios/ - why switch to a whole new platform, when you can just VNC in? If you really need something that does RDP on ios, that's out there too. https://itunes.apple.com/ca/app/jump-desktop-remote-desktop/id364876095?mt=8

Keyboard and mouse are just part of the claim, the article mentions an app to connect to a virtual desktop. Does iPad have this, if so what is the name of the app, and how much is it? I really want my iPad and MacBook Pro to be somehow gracefully merged ...

iTeleport, VNC Viewer,LogMeIn, Screens, Mocha and probably some others. Take your pick. I'm partial to iTeleport myself.

I had the impression that stuff like LogMeIn allow users to go to some website, and then voluntarily allow OTHER people to control their computer by also visiting that same site. This is quite convenient when you can't or do not want to reconfigure the firewalls and NAT devices.

Does Guacamole do that?

It's not the same thing if Guacamole involves users running a VNC server and then configuring firewalls, NATs etc to allow remote access to their computer.

In which case you can already do the same thing with existing VNC servers: http://www.realvnc.com/support/javavncviewer.html

Let's see a show of hands: Who wants to be able to give their PARENTS something they can use to browse the web, email, display pictures and video, and read the occasional book/magazine/newspaper, WITHOUT HAVING TO PROVIDE FREE TECH-SUPPORT FOR LIFE?

I thought so... Well that's EXACTLY what the iPad will bring to us geek family-members.

Jeezus! For a bunch of so-called "tech-savvy" readers, /.ers are some of the most anti-change people around...

BTW, have you ever tried to actually USE a "laptop" computer in your lap while seated on typical livingroom furniture (recliner, couch, etc.)? There is NOTHING comfortable about it!

Go back and watch the Keynote. Notice that most of the hands-on was done SITTING IN THE COMFY CHAIR. That wasn't done because Steve-o gets tired standing up. He was demonstrating exactly WHY this is a "game changing" device.

And it is... Or rather, will be...

Quite frankly, this is the device I've been wanting for the past 20 years or so. What it can't deliver on it's own, my computer will sure be able to through a nice VNC client like > this, or this or this running on the iPad!

Now if only VNC supported AUDIO... Seriously, what's up with that???

I also know about VNC, but trying to walk someone through opening up ports on their router that thinks their Internet is broken when their homepage gets changed is not realistic.

Why don't you just use Reverse VNC so you're the one who has to setup ports? RealVNC provides an easy option for Windows users to "Add a New Client":

Using WinVNC

I use vnc, but I set up the port forwarding and leave it open. I configure the vnc server to not start on boot. I then create an icon on their desktop labeled "Let See to Help", which starts the server. I can then connect. On my way out .. I terminate the server.

I also know about VNC, but trying to walk someone through opening up ports on their router that thinks their Internet is broken when their homepage gets changed is not realistic.

Why don't you just use Reverse VNC so you're the one who has to setup ports? RealVNC provides an easy option for Windows users to "Add a New Client":
Using WinVNC

Did you ever have to click-through a GPL license?

Sadly, yes. See here. (You will need to click "Proceed to download" and select a mirror).

Not only will the download not begin until you check the box stating "I accept these terms and conditions," but you must "accept" the terms of the GPL a second time during the installation process, or the program will not install (and therefore not run). This is clearly in violation of freedom 0, which guarantees "the freedom to run the program, for any purpose."

This isn't the only example I have seen of misguided software vendors creating confusion over what the GPL is and who is bound by it, but it's the only one I can cite an example of at this point.

You are, of course, correct. The user is not bound by the terms of the GPL unless (s)he intends to re-distribute the software licensed under it. I just wish more software distributors understood this.

WinVNC

Xserve, running OS X Server.

MacOS X Server does in fact come with a standard VNC server. You need to enable it and set a password.

The three xServes I've worked on over the years on 2 different KVMs have worked just fine- in fact, better than the HP rackmount gear- this includes high-end Raritan stuff and low-end "iogear" stuff. Maybe you have a crappy KVM, or you haven't configured it properly.

Then stop whining and fix the problem, chief. Wipe the box and reinstall with a restore (easy to do with Time Machine) and then if that doesn't work, call Apple and have the machine serviced.

Decent length being at most 8 characters http://www.realvnc.com/support/faq.html#password8can
vnc is useful, but encrypt the entire stream.

http://www.realvnc.com/oem.html

RealVNC offers multiple products, only one of which is licensed under the GPL.

Next time, don't be so damn lazy.

http://www.realvnc.com/download.html

Just follow the link through as though your going to download the binary and all the source code is available for download right next to it.

Next time don't be so damn lazy.

I'm not sure if it's what you want, but VNC can tunnel through ssh. The combination works for me, anyway.

... is why they are using the essentially useless HTML/HTTP stack with all the addtional layers (JS, AJAX, flash etc.) at all.

There are cross-platform thin-client network solutions like VNC or Nomachine's NX. They do exactly what the web x.0 wants to do, they do it fast and they do it without all the bloat and packing/unpacking of (essentially very simple) data. ... and you can use your favourite GUI toolkit to build applications.

Do not bring up the bandwidth argument before looking at NX first. It runs over really small links.

I also do not think that it allows additional security breaches in principle, as a web browser with all the additional plug-ins is also similar to a very high-level shell to a remote server.

Even if someone is paying me for support, they're already paying my hourly rate and they're not about pay an extra $15/hour (which is what it costs without the volume discount, which I'll never use). For the amount they charge, for what is essentially just NAT traversal and a fancy GUI for VNC, I can get the user to install VNC and select "Add new client..." (and I have done so). It's just not a competitive price for me.

I don't see why these so called "online OS" projects don't just use existing X infrastructure to create an easy way to access standard X windows applications and run them remotely over SSH.

You can actually get such solutions.

These are running over FreeNX which is basically a compressed X connection where the local machine pre-guesses parts of the communication to cut down lag. I've tried them and they work quite nicely over a 512K DSL. In principle dial-up should work ok too, but I haven't tried.

Notice that a Dutch provincial agency has switched its 100 desktops to running over FreeNX. They're running their own server though.

That said, I tend to disagree with your point. Part of the idea behind YouOS et.al. is that being on the same machine as everyone else makes collaborative software easier. Just think if you could painlessly set up multiuser editing on any document you were working on. Flickr shows some of the way too.

The last thing is that you can't just pop into the average internet café and fire up an X/ssh connection. Something running in most browsers would work better here. Maybe something like VNC java viewer for NX is the way to go.

What would be really nice is some sort of common protocol for collaborative programs. That way we could both run some program locally (or NX'ed into our own snoop-proof private server) and have them connect to each other when needed. Pretty sure I'll get to see that in my lifetime, but if Open Source was a bit ahead of the curve here it would be so much better for freedom.

To repeat my problem for the third time, I'm remote-controlling a Mac using a Windows XP computer. GoToMyPC.com only works on Windows, it's useless for solving my problem. As far as I am aware, VNC is the only option for me.

And all that stuff about SFTP only being secure if it's "configured correctly"... why is that my problem? The makers of Cyberduck (my FTP client) are the ones doing the configuring... that's the entire point of software, to reduce complexity. If I wanted to waste all my time learning arcane command-line crap, I'd switch to Linux instead of using a Mac.

RealVNC has already released a 4.1.2 update that closes the vulnerability.

If I was to tunnel into your computer and open word pad (using, say, VNC for example) I could "chat with you".

From your perspective, WP opens and words just begin "typing themselves" into the box. Kinda a fun trick to play on gamers who talk shit in forums, but not really all that useful.

Actively chatting with a sysadmin? Uh...no. No sysadmin is going to that accept a convo in word pad is anything but some lucky script kiddie up to no good. Even some MCSE bozo would know better.

The similar Microsoft product is SMS, not Remote Desktop. The Apple-compatible product similar to Microsoft's Remote Desktop is VNC.

Too bad that vnc is not permitted or hereby the windows XP EULA, or maybe you are just
need to purchase another XP license?

Too bad that vnc is not permitted or hereby the windows XP EULA, or maybe you are just
need to purchase another XP license?

Disclaimer: didn't RTFA.
So:
I'm going to be able to access not just applications in my browser, but a whole OS?
Gosh, think of the security implications - where are my files being stored, blahblah.
FUCKING DYNDNS, APACHE & a JAVA VNC CLIENT
Although the rest of the posts seem to suggest that the article actually has sweet F.A. to do with anything.
As an aside, I have heard it mentioned that it is possible to pay for a subscription to slashdot, is the posting of this article some kind of incentive?

Relevant thread: Free workaround for listening to server audio from client

Then there's the possibility of setting your server up as a SoutCast-like server.

I've got no personal experience with it though...

I would've bought a cheap sound card...

detailed here

still wishing for a kvm over ip

Have you forgotten aboutVNC?

It is the only way to go unless you are not using X windows then that is what ssh is for.

If the public internet cafe you are using allows external computers to connect to their lan, such as bringing in your laptop, then try ssh tunneling to protect your content. Google defines ssh tunneling as "The process of taking any networkable connection between two hosts and channeling the information through the SSH session by encapsulating the private data inside of ordinary (usually encrypted) TCP/IP SSH packets. These connections may be arbitrary TCP/IP ports, X11 connections, or even email, allowing for features like encryption and compression for normally unsecure communication." To setup your own ssh server, install OpenBSD(http://www.openbsd.org/ or get OpenSSH for Windows(http://sshwindows.sourceforge.net/). A good ssh client is PuTTY(http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/ putty/). Another, easier alternative is to use an encrypted vnc connection, such as RealVNC(http://www.realvnc.com/ and just use your home computer from on the go. This would allow you to use your home computer from another computer to get past a packet logger on the internet cafe's lan. If the internet cafe doesn't allow external computers on their lan, the only way to keep your data secure for sure is to not access any sensitive material when using their computers, such as everyone else has already said.

Now your X session/app will display on the x client on your desktop. Export it through an ssh tunnel (ssh -X )too if ya want for security.

OR, if you still want remote desktop on windoze, try this:

Real VNC

Java based, so it will work on both *nix (X) and windoze, and no, the local user doesnt have to log out.

Remote desktop is no reason to base an OS decision on.

Tm

Anyone have any idea why one would shell out the $$$ for TTA?

...in order to update a driver, be it 2D or 3D or whatever, you need at least to reboot X. ... What we need is to modify xlib to support "server migration"

Unfortunately, VNC is useless when you need high performance.

I was a bit jealous upon noticing that XPs remote desktop can migrate a "normal" logged-in session to a remote session. (Then again I was a bit disgusted when I noticed XP pro can only host 1 user session at once - logging in remotely kicks off the terminal user!)

Buy XP Pro for what? I use my PDA with a VNC client to connect to RealVNC's GPL'ed server on my desktop- it seems that a Tablet PC (with the included copy of Windows XP) would win pretty decently with a VNC client, or just Remote Desktop into the box- both are free and do not require extra licenses, as it's still one-user-at-a-time. I'd try using Remote Desktop to see if it could perform better than GPL'ed VNC over wlan, but neither I nor Google knows how to get opie-rdesktop working on my PDA.

Multiuser gets tricky- that's where Cygwin would come in, and X-forwarding, but it's still do-able. In that case you're then limited to linux apps that behave under Cygwin, but if that's alright with you, it works just fine.

Unless you were talking about a complete multisession Windows system (a la Terminal Services)... then I agree whole-heartedly with your assessment.

In fact these devices would be cheap enough to set up a whole classroom with VNC based terminals.

Mount a solarpanel on the back to recharge the display batteries and you would help save the planet! Down with rooms full to 300-400Watt power sucking PCs!

If you want to move a single application back and forth across displays, you're looking for xmove.

He doesn't, he runs a vncserver on the host and gets RealVNC client for Windows.

I very heavily use my thumb drive on school/library pubic systems, and have an allmost entirely different set of programs i use:
For AIM:
TerrAIM ,sure its ugly, but it works a lot better than miranda
For IRC:
Dana I acutally use this little IRC client whenever im in windows, even on my own machines. very light and fast.
For Remote:
Both RealVNC and PuTTY
My favorive text editor:
Notepad++
And a number of tools from DS Software Notably TaskKill.

Why carry it? Just install a flatscreen monitor and waterproof keyboard, and a wall-mounted box running VNC or something. In fact, if you just want to read the news, all you need is a web browser.

I have found that the best way to go if you're even semi-serious about BT is to just dedicate a machine to it (I'm using an old 400Mhz Celeron). RAID a few good sized drives and install BNR if you have a decent usenet feed. Use VNC and run it headless.

This post brought to you by the letters TLA.

/* I just don't find them anywhere near as good (remote desktop, in particular) */
VNC.

Secondly, a regular desktop computer that's always-on can provide resources (CPU, disk space, ...) to the network, so it isn't such a loss to leave it on.

Finally, Unix window managers (starting with CDE, which is about 14 years old) support "saving a session". This means I can log off one computer, walk down the hall, log in on another, and get my terminal windows and (some) applications back in the exact same place where they were before. If that's not good enough, you can use VNC to save your application-windows on a virtual desktop exactly where you want them.

I use VNC. I do not trust those companies that offer the service of allowing you to log into your own pc remotely, using a password that is stored in their database. But hey, I'm paranoid in that I don't like big corporations having a way to get into my pc.

Take a look at this: RealVNC KVM via IP You can connect it to multiple servers, use encryption, and access those servers in what appears to be all of their modes (BIOS, blue screen, etc).

I've been using a laptop and VNC http://www.realvnc.com/ to access my Windows boxes and ssh for my Linux boxes for quite some time now and it has worked well for me. The reason I use VNC rather than Remote Desktop is that it is cross-platform and there are VNC servers for Mac OS X and Linux as well, so I only need one client to connect to all my machines. The other reason is VNC is open-source.

Granted, this doesn't help much on a machine that fails to boot far enough to enable netorking and launch the server. But other than that it works very well.

RealVNC makes/has one. They mention plugging it into a KVM, but I'd imagine it can also go straight into one PC. It also uses vnc as the protocol, so you can use any vncviewer (also available as a java applet) to use it.

Just like the subject says. I installed it on a WinXP Pro SP2 machine. I started it, ran a scan. Interesting that it thinks RealVNC is spyware... I can understand why, but it felt like overkill. The real issue: while the MS anti-spyware was running (realtime "protection"), PopFile, my favorite spam catcher was all whacked out. It would grab e-mail from the server, but pass blanks to MS Outlook. Take the MS beta out of the equation, and everything worked. Put it back in, and presto! Popfile is FUBAR level 3. Back to Ad-aware.

Just thought you'd want to know.

VNC is an acronym for a software product that exist in a few different variants, most notably RealVNC which is free. http://www.realvnc.com/. I have yet to see any of the manufacturers use the acronym VNC for their commercial products, since it is the name for a specific software, not a generic acronym. http://www.windowsnetworking.com/kbase/WindowsTips /Windows2000/AdminTips/Network/VNCstandsforVirtual NetworkComputing.html The question itself is interesting. If the author of the grandparent post doesn't reply, I can recommend RealVNC and TightVNC http://www.tightvnc.com/ - AFAIK the different versions of the VNC based products are mostly compatible with eachother, except of course version specific changes, most notably security enhancements which you asked about.

Slackware, you insensitive clod! ;-)

Actually on a serious note, I install (for my mother, family and friends)...

7-zip
gs / gsview
Firefox / Thunderbird
AVG
WinPT
Eraser
OpenOffice
Gimp (depending on the family member or friend)
Gaim
FileZilla
Amaya (only because bluefish is not available on win32 yet)
RealVNC
VIM
irFanview
Azureus (depending on the family member or friend)
Daemon Tools (depending on the family member or friend)

Banner ads while fast-forwarding - what will they think of next?

After hearing about and drooling over the TiVo boxes. I'm glad I built my own HTPC using SageTV and Hauppauge PVR-250 cards. I can record and encode three shows simultaneously while playing a fourth. I can also stream to a client version of the software on my notebook. RealVNC lets me have in-depth control of the HTPC via my notebook to take advantage of my 1680x1050 notebook resolution.

I've got a writeup and pictures of my Home Theater PC setup on my website.

Terry

... is the answer. What is the question ?

As mentionned by lullabud in an earlier post , RealVNC has a 100% hardware solution that's fully independant of the machines. But it's the admins can walk to the rack for the occasional reboot, I'd stick to the pedestrian solution. You should never loose an opportunity to perform some physical activity in this line of business...