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( http://www.paul.sladen.org/pro... for whoever wanders )

Also we would not mind of a re-shot of the 1990 "beer" photos :)

who cares how it's pronounced? How man pronounce Linux correctly?

and I pronounce Linux as Linux

If he actually did win the prize, wouldn't there be strife if they mis-pronounced his name?

I have had this 'lie-nix/linn-ux debate with people before.

I had always assumed (yes-maybe short sighted!) that it would be 'Lie-nix' as it was written by Linus (lie-ness/nus) T., and not Linus (linn-ness/nus) T., based on Unix.
So I'm kind of perplexed where the 'Linn' pronunciation came from unless that is the customary Scandinavian pronunciation. (?)

Ahhh!
Found this:Linus Himself pronouncing it.(from the website:
torvalds-says-linux.wav (81kB).

        "Hello, this is Linus Torvalds, and I pronounce Linux as Linux!"

Also in Sun AU format (40kB) / MP3 format (82kB) / OGG format (86kB).)

It seems the Finnish pronounce it as 'Linn-ux' where USA pronunciation has it pegged as 'Lie-nix/nexx'
To take the whole 'accent thing' (Finnish speaker speaking in English) that either should be correct.

*disclaimer* I disagree (see above paragraph) with the website's author that: "This was recorded by Linus himself and should therefore be considered the canonical pronunciation to learn from. It can be said to be spoken right and correctly.", as this statement does not take into account non-native English speakers and any accent they may display due to their native language.

I would enjoy/benefit from discourse here, please and thank you. (not just parent poster)

You silly git! Correct pronounciation has different answers.

1) 'Linus' can be pronounced differently (and therefore the related 'Linux') depending on the native language of the speaker, and Linus recognizes that and gives a recorded sample of two different ways here http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/linus/
2) Linus says it this way, but since he's Swedish it's not just a "short I or long I" question - it sounds to me like a short I blended with a bit of a long E. http://www.paul.sladen.org/pronunciation/

I don't think anyone has ever said "this is how you pronounce it". We try to do it like the guy who wrote it does, but if you're not a native Swede you're probably going to only get close. I think it's clear that Linus doesn't really care. If I were you I wouldn't correct them, and if the conversation came up, tell them to listen to the MP3 here Linus pronounces it.

For someone who accuses me of being 'silly' (what are you, twelve?), you completely avoided my point: this is still a government-mandated change. I couldn't even begin to predict how much damage Microsoft would do to their relationship with the government if they acted the way you're 'predicting'. It is not Microsoft saying how a computer should operate, as pointed out in the article it is the current administration who wants limits on what will run and what won't.

As for your 'advantages of free software': Too easy.

First, it's easy to tell what works and upgrades are already painless.

Ubuntu and nVidia drivers. Not all upgrades are painless, because you can't foresee everything. Developers are human, not robots. There are plenty of instances where upgrades break something important.

Second, if something does not work, it will be fixed quickly.

From linked article:

RHEL Linux average time to fix any class of vulnerability: 58 days.
Microsoft windows average time to fix any class of vulnerability: 13 days.

Third, and most importantly, the software does not have "owners" who want to mess with other software "owners".

Tell that to Gentoo users that have had several developers quit over the last few months due to differences of opinion. A lack of ownership can actually negatively impact development when there are conflicts that can't be resolved due to a lack of a resolution path.

Fortunately, nobody knows how to pronounce "Linux".

Well, Linus does...

But yeah, I guess the VID2009 won't kill you when it hears Lie-noox.

It's nice to see the French using Linux here, though I guess it may seem in a clearer decision in light of current Microsoft/EU tensions. The best part is probably the way French people say "Leenoox" which we'll now hear more often than ever.

It's with a friend, but I got that price because he was matching an offer I'd alread found with a commercial provider. I can't remember who that was, but I think it was listed on this page;

http://www.paul.sladen.org/colo/

And to the other post; no of course it's not a whole rack, you crazy. It's for 1U.

Better names for noobs might be:
Spreadsheet
Excelsior
Excellence
1-2-3-4
etc.

Don't make it harder for us who are *trying* to implement it for our users! Give us some names that make sense! (Off topic, but ask new users to pronounce some of these open source names: ProgreSQL? Suse? Xiaman? Knoppix? Gnu? Debian (Day-bian? Dee-bian? Deb-ian?) Even Linux (Pronounced Lee-nux? Lii-nux? Lin-ux? yeah, I know, Linus has recorded how to pronounce it.) Maybe I need a quick pronounciation guide! I ain't stoopid, and i is havin' trouble!)

He is

Really, you need to quit trolling or get an education.

... Linux MUST be hard to use, see how difficult will be to pronounce the name of most of their main distributions (SuSE with mixed case? Ubuntu? And now... Mandriva? even is hard to pronounce linux), then installing/using them should be even harder.

Didn't try it myself, no need. But The new thinkpads from IBM contains TCPA chips that means that theoretically it could become impossible to do those kind of hacks. This is the only goal of TCPA I don't like, the crypto stuff would IS wonderfull to have, no one can read my cryptokeys save me and those with my password.

There's an easy enough workaround for that.

I came across his site a while back, and holy crap if he isn't hacking his BIOS to get around these limitations. (His page is linked to if you follow a link from TFA, but I figured he deserves more prominence here.)

Interestingly, this is the same IBM (and HP, for that matter) that we have come to know and love for their help with Linux. I realize they're a big company, full of lawyers and patents and left hands unaware of what the right hand's doing, but I'm still really surprised I haven't heard about this before.

Anyone know of a blacklist of this sort of shenanigans? I'm the sysadmin where I work, and it'd be great to know what to stay away from -- and to explain to these companies why they've lost our business.

http://www.paul.sladen.org/pronunciation/

From Linus himself: http://www.paul.sladen.org/pronunciation/

Am I the only one who has noticed that when you have a society of geeks who communicate mostly by text, there is a great disparity in the way people choose to pronounce things? At least most of us have settled on a pronunciation of Linux and J. K. Rowling's Hermione.

Hello this is TrollTech, and we pronounce QT as "Cute"

a la Linux

According to this translated Alan diary entry, http://www.paul.sladen.org/alans-diary/, the hand-over DID happend. Scroll down to entry for September 21.

(Same anon.coward as in parent post - maybe is would be time to register)

I still don't know if I'm pronouncing it correctly.

Some time ago, I found this wav file that showed me how I was pronouncing Linux incorrectly.

I still pronounce it quite incorrectly, but at least I try.

You would say lin-ucks because that is how Linux says it.

While there's been quite some discussion on the subject matter, and of course you're free to pronounce it however the hell you want, I think most people pronounce it the way Linus himself does (short i):

"Hello, this is Linus Torvalds, and I pronounce Linux as Linux!"

Wrong. Linux is named after a person. It is ethnocentrist to intentionally bastardize the pronunciation of someone's name into your language. Since Linus Torvald's first name is pronounced Leenuhs, it follows that the kernel named after him is pronounced Leenuhks. Linus also expressly allows the pronunciation Linuhks (soft `i').

But you don't have to take my word for it:
Linux Jargon File Entry
torvalds-says-linux.wav (81kB)

• Linus on Linux

You are still stupid, despite your age. There's nothing honest about writing "RMS is an asshole" on a free software news site.

For the benifit of those who might be confused by your sophestry, I can put down a few of your silly arguments. GNU/Linux works without xfree86 and GNU works withoug Linux too but Linux does not work without GNU. In the world of free software, you just can't do without GNU. Trade press that refers to all free software as "Linux" does a disservice to all other free software and is written either by people without a clue or comercial software shills. It's an oversimplification that can be avoided by being specific. I run Debian and Red Hat, two collections of free software based on the GNU project including the popular kernel Linux. I have also run OpenBSD. The tools from each migrate back and forth because all are free. There you go, nothing pretentious about that is there? I can even pronounce Linux like Linus Torvald says it, though I doubt anyone but you really cares.