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Akamai Having Problems?

A reader writes:"It appears that sometime during the night, Akamai had some problems causing some connectivitly issues with many hosts thoughout the night. Akamai provides a DNS load balancing solution to many major internet companies/sites including (but notlimited to) Google, Yahoo, etc. Is it a bad idea to rely so heavily upon one service for our major internet needs? " Not much details - but I can confirm having problems this morning. Thanks to alert readers for pointing that they were having "DoS related issues" and that service was restored as of 1400 GMT.

216 comments

  1. SBC? by boschmorden · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Perhaps this is related to the SBC strike?

    1. Re:SBC? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Did the bytes join in solidarity?

    2. Re:SBC? by MarkGriz · · Score: 5, Funny

      Did the bytes join in solidarity?

      Word up!

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    3. Re:SBC? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Make packets not pickets!

    4. Re:SBC? by benploni · · Score: 1

      Word up!

      Ha! I had scrolled past it when I got it :-).

    5. Re:SBC? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I know for a fact that it isn't.

    6. Re:SBC? by Nuclear+Elephant · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure why they were down the first time, but I'm pretty sure a /.ing would be the reason they'd be experiencing any present network difficulties.

  2. Apple down, Microsoft up by G�tz · · Score: 4, Informative

    I can confirm problems accessing the apple.com trailers, but microsoft.com has no problems. I thought they were using Akamai's services as well?

    1. Re:Apple down, Microsoft up by lazy_arabica · · Score: 4, Funny
      microsoft.com has no problems. I thought they were using Akamai's services as well?
      They are:
      www.microsoft.akadns.net CNAME www2.microsoft.akadns.net
      Oh my god, this must be another Microsoft conspiracy, you'll soon see them shutting google.com down ! :-P
    2. Re:Apple down, Microsoft up by the+frizz · · Score: 2, Informative
      See the Speedrank index for the affects this has had on 100 popular web sites.

      Disclaimer. I work for Speedera, an Akamai competitor.

    3. Re:Apple down, Microsoft up by rf600r · · Score: 1

      Microsoft is not stupid enough to cache everything with Akamai. They also hand Digital Isla..I mean Exod...I mean Cable and Wi...I mean Savvis a lot of traffic. Or so I'm told.

    4. Re:Apple down, Microsoft up by technomanceraus · · Score: 0

      I was trying to get to download.microsoft.com all night (AEST) but no go ... had to use our MSDN subcription access to download Visual Studio service pack 6 ... that points to a problem to me.

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  3. apple trailers by pinky99 · · Score: 2, Informative

    yes, i noted also it, when i wanted to watch new movie trailers at apple's qt site, which is appearantly and unfortunately hosted by akamai.

  4. I thought they do file hosting also by nev4 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Akamai also hosts files (images, binaries) for many major websites. Seems like they have some pretty insane bandwidth too...

    1. Re:I thought they do file hosting also by The_Mr_Flibble · · Score: 0, Redundant

      Tell Me about it !!!

    2. Re:I thought they do file hosting also by r_cerq · · Score: 5, Informative

      No, they don't need to. Akamai's model is to install a bunch of their own machines (a PoP) in each and every middle-to-large ISP. They then use source-based DNS to direct requests to the nearest PoP (with some luck, it'll be within your ISP's network). They basically work as a smart reverse-proxy. You make your request to their PoP, and the PoP serves the content from cache. If you happen to be the first person requesting said content, the PoP will fetch it from the originating server (Apple, MS, CNN, whatever) and cache it to serve following request.

    3. Re:I thought they do file hosting also by Misch · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Like Livejournal. They use Akamai for hosting userpics. This morning my buddy list was having trouble loading the images. (as they note here.)

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    4. Re:I thought they do file hosting also by afidel · · Score: 2, Interesting

      A lot of conent is also pre-pushed. For instance if Apple is going to have an ad campaign involving quicktime movies available from apple.com they will pre-push the content to Akami's servers several days ahead of time so that there is not a sudden rush of requests from Akami's cache engines crushing everything else.

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    5. Re:I thought they do file hosting also by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's months old and has nothing to do with what the article is talking about.

  5. Having problems? by MarkGriz · · Score: 4, Funny

    Posting a link to their website on Slashdot should help them out.

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    1. Re:Having problems? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      You think Slashdot can affect them? How quaint.

    2. Re:Having problems? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As a sysadmin that works for a major company that uses Akamai's network services, I could tell you with confidence that the full wrath of Slashdot would have little effect on their network. We routinely push traffic across their network in the Tb/s ranges with no strain on their capacity.

      Sorry guys!

  6. It's simple. by Bug-Man · · Score: 1, Funny

    Terrorism.

    1. Re:It's simple. by idsCypher · · Score: 0

      true imagine an terroriste org having acess to shutdown this kind of companys. truly not a pretty sight when this happens.

    2. Re:It's simple. by 87C751 · · Score: 3, Interesting
      Terrorism.
      Funny you should say that. First thing this morning, I noticed my ThreatTray monitor was blank. I checked, and the Department of Homeland Security was not answering. And who do you suppose runs their webservers?
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    3. Re:It's simple. by perly-king-69 · · Score: 1
      Threat Tray? I thought that was an April Fools thing...Really.

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    4. Re:It's simple. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      that's funny, threat tray, i wonder when that came out, hopefully i tried to capitalize on american fear first..

      http://www.fablesoft.com is my site, and there is a 'terror threat level' tray prog there.

    5. Re:It's simple. by 87C751 · · Score: 1
      Threat Tray? I thought that was an April Fools thing...Really.
      Interesting, considering it was released nowhere near April 1. (original release 3/12/03, revised 5/22/03)
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    6. Re:It's simple. by 87C751 · · Score: 1
      that's funny, threat tray, i wonder when that came out, hopefully i tried to capitalize on american fear first..
      ThreatTray beat you by 2 weeks.
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    7. Re:It's simple. by perly-king-69 · · Score: 1
      Guess I must have heard about it around April time.

      Anyone had any good use out of it?

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    8. Re:It's simple. by 87C751 · · Score: 1

      I didn't track the downloads too closely, but at least a few people commented on using it. (I suppose I just blew my cover... I wrote ThreatTray and threat-advisory.com is one of my sites)

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  7. erm... by REBloomfield · · Score: 4, Insightful
    So, you had a problem on the Inernet, no one else has reported this, on any or the mainstream news sites, and the whole Internet is coming to an end?

    And this is *news*???

    1. Re:erm... by geoffspear · · Score: 4, Funny

      In other news, my home DSL briefly went down during a severe thunderstorm the other day.

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    2. Re:erm... by Servo · · Score: 1

      CNN Headline News is reporting that my neighbors portable phone caused a brief 5 second outage on my home Wireless Access Point.

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    3. Re:erm... by Giant+Panda · · Score: 1
      In other news, my home DSL briefly went down during a severe thunderstorm the other day.

      It's the end of the Internet as you know it. Or is it the end of civilization?

    4. Re:erm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      The other day, the whole Internet was down. The cause was traced to their cable being unplugged from my computer. I put it back and restored the Internet. I hope this didn't cause anyone problems.

    5. Re:erm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Except this is news, as this outage caused major problems with bestbuy.com, amazon.com, yahoo.com, google.com, ichotelsgroup.com, and countless others.

      Major news sites probably haven't covered this because this is "News for nerds."

    6. Re:erm... by telstar · · Score: 1
      "And this is *news*???"
      • I dunno ... Let me ask Michael Moore, and then I'll have an opinion.

    7. Re:erm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I've got to submit a bug that Slashdot is displaying somebody's political agenda instead of news for nerds and stuff that matters.

      Telstar knows what I mean.

    8. Re:erm... by Hobart · · Score: 2, Insightful
      So, you had a problem on the Inernet, no one else has reported this, on any or the mainstream news sites, and the whole Internet is coming to an end? And this is *news*???
      No, smart-aleck, EVERYONE had problems pulling down sites like Amazon / IMDB / others. I saw it too, heaviest problem at 1300GMT.
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    9. Re:erm... by telstar · · Score: 1

      At least I know somebody reads this crap...

  8. Not a problem with having one company by millahtime · · Score: 4, Funny

    I don't think it's a problem to go with one company. As long as that company has a distributed solution with many uplink providers. So, basically redundancy when something happens because no matter how good you are there will always be hickups.

    1. Re:Not a problem with having one company by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They do have a distributed cluster type system (it's a great way to get peering) however I believe they may use global update tools (this is just a wild stab in the dark and based on best guess (as I have seen 1 cluster loose connectivity totaly whilst they blamed everything but their servers which in the past hour I have proven to be untrue))

    2. Re:Not a problem with having one company by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      hiccups you mean

    3. Re:Not a problem with having one company by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      originally, hicoughs

  9. Internet Storm Centre has a little by Zocalo · · Score: 4, Informative
    "Akamai problems. Quiet, well kinda quiet, day on the Internet Update (Mon. May 24th 9 am EST, 13:00 UTC, 15:00 CEST)

    It appears that websites that use Akamai's distribution system are currently not reachable. Security related web sites effected are symantec.com and trendmicro.com. Virus updates may fail as a result. Further details are currently not available and updates will be posted here as they become available. Thanks to Vidar Wilkens for alerting us of this problem.

    According to a post to NANOG, the outage may be the result of a DDOS attack. At this point, Akamai has not ETA for a resolution.

    Update 09:45 EST: Looks like some of the Akamai hosted sites start to come back."

    You gotta love that "Quiet, well kinda quiet". ;)

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    1. Re:Internet Storm Centre has a little by stevesliva · · Score: 1

      Gotta love the joke in "security related web sites effected" also. Are they trying and failing?

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    2. Re:Internet Storm Centre has a little by AndroidCat · · Score: 1

      If it was a DDoS attack, it would have to have been a biiig one! I suspect a slashdotting would barely be a blip in their normal load.

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    3. Re:Internet Storm Centre has a little by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They're trying and dying.

  10. Perhaps.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Perhaps it is because of karmatic pretending to be posting mirrors of various stories on Slashdot over the last 24 hours, but instead using Akamai as an open proxy to mirror the sites for him:Nice bit of bandwidth theft, there.
    1. Re:Perhaps.... by koniosis · · Score: 1

      hmmm, that is pretty cheeky actually

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    2. Re:Perhaps.... by hkroger · · Score: 0, Troll

      So is this legal or not? More information needed. I could use also their bandwidth. =)

    3. Re:Perhaps.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      I remember doing that a few years back ;-)

      I just went to akamai's site to see if they have any terms of use or anything but all I see is a blank page, so it must be ok.

    4. Re:Perhaps.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      First off, they are in fact mirrors. I never said they were mine. In fact, one of those I even labelled as an akamai mirror.

      Second, do you realize the insane amounts of bandwidth these people have? I'm not even putting a slight dent into them.

      Third, my mirror script deliberatly picks a different server for each url, and switches them if it gets too many hits, or it's been more than 24 hours.

      Fourth, I looked into using Akamai before, and they charge by Capacity, not usage. So, while it might be slightly (1-2msec) slower for a couple of their users, for a couple of hours, it won't cost the customers themselves a dime. I don't know how akamai pays for their bandwidth, so I can't speak for them.

      So bugger off, or I'll post the source code to all my tools.

    5. Re:Perhaps.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Fourth, I looked into using Akamai before, and they charge by Capacity, not usage. "

      This is incorrect. Akamai can charge by bandwidth as well. We were Akamai customers and were not charged on a per GB but we paid a flat fee for up to and including 1MBps average per month. So, yes, your usage could make an impact.

    6. Re:Perhaps.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So bugger off, or I'll post the source code to all my tools.

      Back off everybody. I think he means it!

  11. We do that already. by Underholdning · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Is it a bad idea to rely so heavily upon one service for our major internet needs?
    We do that already. Remember when verisign introduced Sitefinder, thus effectively making various services (like spam filters etc) unusable because non-existing domains all of a sudden replied with a valid IP.

  12. NOC Says: by j0keralpha · · Score: 4, Informative

    Akamai's NOC says service restored approx 1400GMT. Earlier NOC quotes include: It is a system-wide problem that "looks like it may be a DOS attack".

    1. Re:NOC Says: by Lord+Zerrr · · Score: 0

      Oh no not DOS, anything but DOS...ok now that thats out of my system.

      Which version of DOS do they think it was? I heard it was MS DOS.

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    2. Re:NOC Says: by baudilus · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I wonder what kind of DOS attack could take down akamai? Their bandwidth is almost scary (I've downloaded stuff from them at well over 9 mbps from my home machine). I'd hate to think someone has enough bandwidth to attack them, unless it was some sort DDoS.

    3. Re:NOC Says: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It had to be someone with equal bandwidth, like their evil twin iamaka. I am AKA. Maybe it's akamai that's the evil twin?

    4. Re:NOC Says: by kwoff · · Score: 1

      DOSing all of Akamai? Holy cow.

    5. Re:NOC Says: by MoonBuggy · · Score: 3, Informative

      While collectively Akamai is near impervious, there's probably a 'weak link' in there somewhere. I would guess that the servers which direct you to the local cache were the target - they deal only with requests and routing so they wouldn't need anything like the bandwidth that the actual media caching servers have, and if the media servers are up but the routing servers are down then the system is essentailly dead.

      Kinda like the time they DDoSed some of the DNS roots - if they'd got a few more of them it could've pretty much taken out the entire web without actually needing to attempt the near impossible task of offlining all of the millions(?) of normal site servers out there.

    6. Re:NOC Says: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      DoS / crax0rs is always a good excuse. Blame the criminals, we didn't do it!

      A while ago a customer called my boss asking what was wrong since mail was unavailable. I was standing in the room, and with a stale face he said: "We're having trouble with some hacker."

      That "hacker" was me.

  13. Redundancy by some1somewhere · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Their system is supposed to be distributed in such a way that any major outage in a section of the internet would not affect their overall ability to deliver the content, so presuambly any outage an ISP would not hit their too hard.

    BTW something interesting:
    http://a1.g.akamaitech.net/6/6/6/6/w ww.peacefire.o rg/bypass/Proxy/akamai.html

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    1. Re:Redundancy by Snork+Asaurus · · Score: 1
      BTW something interesting: http://a1.g.akamaitech.net/6/6/6/6/www.peacefire.o rg/bypass/Proxy/akamai.html

      Thank goodness you didn't you didn't embed that link, since less people will check it. I'd hate to see them get Slashdotted.

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    2. Re:Redundancy by xanadu-xtroot.com · · Score: 1
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  14. Yahoo had trouble for at least an hour or so. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Informative

    Yahoo had trouble for at least an hour or so.

  15. Apple.com Slow down by koniosis · · Score: 1, Informative

    Me and a lot of people I know have been having issues with apple.com specifically the quick time trailers section. Download speeds hit rock bottom, at about 200bytes/second on a 3MB cable connection. As I said, this was a number of people experiencing the same speeds.

    Blueyonder UK

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    1. Re:Apple.com Slow down by koniosis · · Score: 1

      And guess what, turns out Apple.com uses Akami as its mirror! Guess that all makes sense then. Phew, I was starting to think it was my connection :)

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  16. What really happened... by Fulkkari · · Score: 4, Funny

    The cleaning lady needed electricity to her vacuum cleaner.

    Poor sysadmins.

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    1. Re:What really happened... by Tielman · · Score: 1

      You joke, this really happened to us. About 5 years ago they plugged a vacuum into the Matrix UPS. Blew up the Bay 5000 Switch that was our 10/100 core at the time. What a glorious mess!

      I can remember talking to someone who thought that a reboot had fixed it, arguing that "No, it's down" with the "No, it's back up" replys going back and forth...

      Needless to say, the cleaning crew is not welcome in the server room any more :)

    2. Re:What really happened... by TheLink · · Score: 1

      The notorious cleaning lady...

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    3. Re:What really happened... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually it was her vibrator that short-circuited the circuit breaker box.

    4. Re:What really happened... by Fulkkari · · Score: 1

      It seems to be a common problem. I have witnessed something like that myself, even though it wasn't any computer I would be responsible for.

      I noticed one day that a server was down and inquired about it's status when I met one of the guys who administer it. What I heard was that someone, apparently the cleaning staff, had unplugged the power cable from the Linux server running Apache and some other smaller services. As it was a educational server there were no financial losses, but I don't think that fscking all the drives is that nice either. :-)

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    5. Re:What really happened... by MS · · Score: 1
      No joke:

      In 1997 I worked for a local ISP, and sometimes in the evening around 7pm (when no one of us was in the offices), some of the servers were unreachable for a few minutes and rebooted. We investigated for months! Unfortunately it didn't happen, when we stayed there afterhours - so we had no clue what went on.

      Finally we discovered it was the cleaning lady, that unplugged one of the servers to plug in his vacuum cleaner...

      Now the servers are locked up in a room, where only authorised personnel has access. And their uptime is several 100 days.

      :-)
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  17. Discussed on Nanog... by rf0 · · Score: 4, Informative
  18. Answer by Mr_Silver · · Score: 4, Informative
    Is it a bad idea to rely so heavily upon one service for our major internet needs?

    Of course it is a bad idea.

    However, blame that on the other competing services who haven't become cheaper, faster or better at whatever it is that makes Akamai so popular.

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  19. Ah, knee-jerk reactions. by jdreed1024 · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Is it a bad idea to rely so heavily upon one service for our major internet needs?

    I love how the first reaction when something goes wrong is to replace it, or introduce competiton, or whatever. Yes, there are plenty of times when a service needs competition to encourage it to suck less. But go find me another company that is even remotely prepared to do DNS load-balancing. Verisign? Oh, that's a great idea. Going to start one yourself? Let us know when you have the infrastructure.

    The fact is, we have NO idea what caused this. There's no link to any story anywhere - just one reader report. It could be Akamai's fault. It could be their upstream providers. It could be failures elsewhere in the Internet. Could be someone uploaded a bad zone file. Or maybe some over-zealous backhoe operator slashed some fiber somewhere.

    It's probably best to reserve judgement until you have all the facts. (And if you're about to hit the reply button, yes, I'd say the exact same thing if MSFT lost their DNS service).

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    1. Re:Ah, knee-jerk reactions. by The_Mr_Flibble · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Akami host their clusters all over the planet it is a fully redundant service it would of had to be a major fault to cause it to go down.

    2. Re:Ah, knee-jerk reactions. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Akami host their clusters all over the planet it is a fully redundant service it would of had to be a major fault to cause it to go down.
      An English Teacher writes (well, not really): "would have" would have been correct in this context.
    3. Re: Ah, knee-jerk reactions. by einnor · · Score: 1

      The point is that if we rely on a single system (Akami), then that becomes a single point of failure. Single points of failure are the bane of reliability. If we had two systems, then if Akami went down, everything would shift to the other system. Things would be considerably slower, but the entire system wouldn't crash.

      Granted, if both go down, we're still screwed. But the point is that it is much, much more likely that a single thing will fail then that a thing and its redundant backup will fail at the same time. Especially if they're both pretty reliable.

      I know that Akami is made to be very reliable. But unless they run their system as two completely independant redundant systems, then there are still failures which could hit them both at the same time.

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    4. Re:Ah, knee-jerk reactions. by maelfius · · Score: 1

      there have been many /other/ similar services for this. However, most of them were targeted at other markets. Look at digital-islands, originally mostly a streaming servce, but they could handle akamai style dns as well...but ahh dot(bomb)Com industry strikes again...

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    5. Re:Ah, knee-jerk reactions. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      > I love how the first reaction when something goes wrong is to replace it, or introduce competiton, or whatever. Yes, there are plenty of times when a service needs competition to encourage it to suck less. But go find me another company that is even remotely prepared to do DNS load-balancing. Verisign? Oh, that's a great idea. Going to start one yourself? Let us know when you have the infrastructure.

      *ahem* Speedera Networks

  20. Grammar check! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Not many details. Many, dammit! :)

  21. Single Domino Theory Revisited by dalillama · · Score: 5, Insightful

    People say that the Internet can't be knocked out. That may be true in the infra-structure sense, but if you're able to knock down Akamai or any other major solution provider, think of the sites that would go down (Google, Yahoo et al), and the repercution on the global economy. So yes, the domino theory doesn't apply to the Internet, but it becomes exponentially more dangerous when we rely on one domino for a significant share of of communications.

    1. Re:Single Domino Theory Revisited by REBloomfield · · Score: 1

      Thye provide a load balancing service. The sites wouldn't go down. Microsoft routinely switch their akamai feed on and off.

    2. Re:Single Domino Theory Revisited by dalillama · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I know-- But if a significant portion of their load-balancing is knocked out of service, the effects are still substantial. Imagine Google running at 10% capacity...

    3. Re:Single Domino Theory Revisited by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Yes...oh dear God imagine if Google was down for a day what would the world do?

    4. Re:Single Domino Theory Revisited by ZHaDoom · · Score: 1

      Revert back to the yellow pages, nearest Borders books store, or worse www.webcrawler.com.

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  22. 24/7 Application Uptime by Stalus · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I guess this throws a wrench in their claim of 24/7 uptime on their main page. Nice how their marketing team says 100% availability, when people get PhD's by adding more 9's to their 99.99..%'s

    1. Re:24/7 Application Uptime by djh101010 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I've been using Akamai for several years now at work, this is the first time we've had any interruption. The bandwith they serve for us for a couple grand a month offsets about 3 times as much cost if we had to bring it in ourselves, our customers get pages in half the time (better than that further away), and with the exception of this morning, _it just works_.

      Wish I could point to one of my servers here that hasn't been down unexpectedly in 2 years. I don't think I can. It's cheaper, it's faster, and it's more reliable than trying to serve that content from here; even with this downtime, it's still the appropriate solution.

      Now, if they go down _again_, without explaination, it could get messy.

  23. Yahoo investor message boards were farked by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They did manage to serve up the banner ad, but the rest of the page just sat there. Same with cnn.com. Seemed to resolve itself here in Philly about a half hour ago.

  24. Re:Remember, Akamai uses Linux. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    OS/X Server :) - No Sasser here...

  25. YIKES! by ZHaDoom · · Score: 3, Funny

    I hope its not my fault. I knocked out 3 of akamai servers with a router problem =(

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  26. They just found the culprit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    The outage was apparently related to a DDOS attack against project Gutenberg that started this morning.

  27. several possibly related outages over the weekend? by Servo · · Score: 3, Interesting

    At work we lost connectivity to a handful of remote sites located in the Northeast, Midwest, and Southeast. Other sites in the same region but different cities were not affected. I was told it was a fiber cut on AT&T's backbone.. wonder if it has anything to do with this.

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  28. Report from Akamai by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Our Akamai rep tells us that it was an issue with a software version rollout. They flushed all their image caches, and effectively caused a DOS on themselves.

    1. Re:Report from Akamai by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They flushed all their image caches, and effectively caused a DOS on themselves.

      How about effectively not having any content to serve because its all marked as expired? Not DOSy really, just a fuck up that will get some mid level guy fired after his team put in 100 hour weeks getting the new content tool ready and rolled out.

  29. Silly Akamai by avisdream · · Score: 3, Funny

    I've had so many problems with akamai as of late...it seemingly has a monopoly over just about any commercial website I'm interested in. I don't see images very often while I'm at work...they just idle. Maybe it's a sign that I should stop shopping when I'm supposed to be working :(

    1. Re:Silly Akamai by Have+Blue · · Score: 1

      That's not silly, it just means Akamai is the best at what they do. Maybe an event like this will be a wake-up call and lead to diversification on popular sites or the rise of competing companies.

    2. Re:Silly Akamai by djh101010 · · Score: 1

      You're probably behind a net-nanny type filter that blocks anything with "akamai" in the URL - at least one of them defaults to that behavior.

      At a certain usage point, it made sense for us to switch from a g123.a.akamai.net/blah/blah type URL to one that has our company's name in it, which is cnamed over to an akamai server. So, the URL looks like a host in our domain to the customers (and their filtering software), but resolves through the cname to the nearest akamai edge server to them. It's more complicated than that, but you get the idea - gets the word "akamai" out of the URL. This is why some of the sites which went all b0rken this morning (including ours) don't look like they're akamaized untill you start doing some nslookups or whatever to see where the content comes from.

      As to being a monopoly - well, when I implemented Akamai for our company, I shopped around to a couple of competitors, one of whom went away during the selection process, the other who only serves some domains...there isn't anyone out there doing it as well as Akamai is. It's a good businses model, and some of their technology is patented, so it'd be hard to start up and compete with them. I could see someone like google (or eBay) with a large, distributed architecture pulling it off, but other than that, not a lot of opportunity to get into it at this point.

      Anyway, your "problems" not seeing akamai images - bet they're a filtering issue on your end. This is the first downtime in years, and things don't just randomly not work with them, that's why it's so remarkable when something does go wrong.

    3. Re:Silly Akamai by avisdream · · Score: 1

      Actually, they do load eventually, just very slowly...and only one at a time.

      Net Nanny? Probably. Don't want to see me buying bathing suits now, do we?

    4. Re:Silly Akamai by djh101010 · · Score: 1

      It could be that your internal DNS infrastructure doesn't talk nice with cname'd addresses. I've had customers with _very_ old versions of BIND running in-house which saw similar problems. The customer in question wasn't keen to do anything about it for akamai-ish reasons, but when I pointed out the security fixes that have gone into effect since that version of BIND was released, well, they upgraded and the problem went away.

  30. Closer to home by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Is it a bad idea to rely so heavily upon one service for our major internet needs?

    Yeah. Duh. But, where else can I get a /. fix?

  31. eBay affected also by jelevy01 · · Score: 2, Informative

    I couldn't get to eBay this morning either. It seems to be resolved now though.

    1. Re:eBay affected also by cloudmaster · · Score: 1

      eBay was the one that I noticed, though my wife later complained that Yahoo! was unresponsive. Surprisingly (or not, I guess, due to my local caching DNS) Google was still working well...

    2. Re:eBay affected also by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


      I had the same problem reaching ebay. I wondered if it was ebay having a hardware croak like they do every three months. Maybe it was akamai this time though.

      It's better than three/four years ago when they had daily outages.

  32. WORM_AGOBOT.GN by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I was unable to get to the sites for the major AV Vendors this morning. I chalk it up to Agobot as it
    DDOS's their sites. See the following link:

    http://www.trendmicro.com/vinfo/virusencyclo/def au lt5.asp?VName=WORM_AGOBOT.GN&VSect=T

  33. Notice on Akamai Control site by Reckless+Visionary · · Score: 4, Informative
    Akamai has posted a notice on the website customers use to get reporting and manage content.

    Due to a peering problem between ATT and UUNet, a subset of UUNet users may have experienced problems accessing Akamai delivered sites between 8-10pm EDT on Saturday May 22, 2004. The problem has been fully resolved.

    --
    I think I'll stop here.
    1. Re:Notice on Akamai Control site by Zocalo · · Score: 4, Informative
      8-10pm EDT on Saturday May 22, 2004

      Well, unless you have a *really* bad latency problem, I don't think that's going to be an issue with a problem on May 24th...

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    2. Re:Notice on Akamai Control site by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I dunno about that. Wired.com has been missing all graphics and showing nothing but text for me at work last week and today and showing some blurb about missing style sheets being caused by innaccesible akamai servers being the cause. Although it works fine here on Comcast.

  34. DNS flaky for the last 90 days by sphealey · · Score: 4, Interesting

    As a small company we have a limited view of the Internet, but it seems to us that there have been DNS and connectivity problems thoughout the Internet for the last 90 days or so. I was guessing that there was a DDoS attack against the root DNS servers that wasn't being reported. This would seem to be along the same lines.

    sPh

    1. Re:DNS flaky for the last 90 days by REBloomfield · · Score: 1

      Would it not be more likely that your ISP is having problems? Or do you send all requests directly to the root servers?

    2. Re:DNS flaky for the last 90 days by sphealey · · Score: 1

      > Would it not be more likely that your ISP is
      > having problems? Or do you send all requests
      > directly to the root servers?

      Our ISP is a pretty big one, and we use djbdns which I believe goes to the roots if the lookup is not cached.

      Still, your questions are good ones and we have asked ourselves the same things. Usually when response seems slow in the office it is also slow on various cable and DSL services at employee's homes too though.

      Maybe I am just getting old and cranky: "When I was young the 'net was FAST. And we didn't have any extra "Inter" letters on the front of it either!".

      sPh

    3. Re:DNS flaky for the last 90 days by Bob+Zer+Fish · · Score: 1

      Actually I've noticed speed decreases too, and reverse DNS lookup issues. I'm on SuperJanet, so it is quite unlikely that there's an ISP issue, especially over such a large time frame.
      I had guessed that it was down to all of the new Netsky-like viruses that use large amounts of bandwidth.

    4. Re:DNS flaky for the last 90 days by cocotoni · · Score: 1

      Some weeks ago I had a bizzare problem with my ISP (Colt) and the sites hosted by Akamai. It seems that they have updated their relaying DNS servers and the updated version seems to have problems with caching the DNS records with short TTL (as is the case with Akamai - the short TTL allows to respond with different address each time).

      The solution - I have switched first to directly sending requests to roots (proving that the problem is not with the bandwidth as root requests take more), and was later given the set of the Colt DNSs that are still running the older version of software.

      I am not so much into new versions od DNS servers, so I cannot tel if the problem is with a broken version of BIND or other doing the rounds.

    5. Re:DNS flaky for the last 90 days by crashnbur · · Score: 1

      I've noticed this as well. One of our home PCs (four years old, Windows ME, because I like comparing it to the XP machines) has stopped connecting to our ISP's servers -- no email, no newsgroups -- but I can still hit the internet just fine, with a noticeable three-second-or-so delay in connecting to anything after I've typed a location and pressed [Enter].

      Agent (newsreader) reports a winsock error (10060, connection to server timed out) and Outlook (email) reports that the connection was unexpectedly terminated by the server.

      What's really peculiar is that I can't even access the webmail web site from that computer (but support sites on the same domain name are fine), but it works fine in every other computer in the house going through the same connection. For instance, this computer can check email in all my installed email apps, it can receive news headers from the NNTP servers, and it can access web mail no problem.

      What gives? (FYI: I use Cox High Speed Internet, formerly @home.)

    6. Re:DNS flaky for the last 90 days by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Try setting up a local root copy, its dead simple esp. if you are already using djbdns and it makes things "feel" much faster for users and mail/spam detection servers that do lots of lookups. The data in the root zone is so small and changes infrequently (even if it does change a little it generally won't be fatal if you are a few weeks/months out of date).

      I watch the logs on my local root and it can be handy for debugging or noticing the initial stages of some virus outbreaks...

    7. Re:DNS flaky for the last 90 days by suwain_2 · · Score: 1

      Without knowing more, it's hard to say it's an Internet-wide problem, in fact, I'd hazard a guess that your ISP's DNS servers are something like mine. I got so fed up with the poor quality that I set up a spare 486 to provide DNS services; it goes out and grabs stuff from the root servers directly, bypassing the garbage servers my ISP provides.

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    8. Re:DNS flaky for the last 90 days by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We are a large state government agency and we've been having all sorts of problems coming from SBC and having to do with peering problems. Their phone support sux. Now i know why their employees are going on strike. You call them and the person on the other end has a strong Indian accent and if its not in their script.. well.. your not getting any farther. We had to have our legal department threaten them and finally they *discovered* a problem in their dns caching servers. Apparently their caching servers are so filled with exceptions to the rules that even their own employees have had problems getting to stuff. Its all held together with chewing gum and bailing wire.

    9. Re:DNS flaky for the last 90 days by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This sounds interesting. How do you AXFR the entire com. and net. zones from one of the root servers?

  35. What about Bittorrent? by KhalidBoussouara · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Bittorrent reduces the load on the central server by having everyone who downloads content upload content to other users. Couldn't a similar system be designed for HTTP connections? Obviously it would be designed with much smaller files in mind and with less overhead.

    I realise no one give a shit about some large company's bandwith but for small community sites it could really make a difference. They wouldn't have to pay for a company to mirror their site and would save on bandwith costs.

    This wouldn't work for server side scripts (as the HTML output would be different for every user) but for static HTML and images it would be perfect.

    1. Re:What about Bittorrent? by Jonny+Royale · · Score: 1

      A caching proxy would do that, I beleive. If it's (fairly) static content, your proxy should pull the relevant items from cache, without having to re-pull the info from the server. Then, if person 1 gets content, a copy is stored on the server. When person 2 gets the same content, the proxy uses the local cache to fulfill the request, rather than going to the web site again.

      Doesn't necessarily help another company outside your connection, but it might help inside your network to reduce bandwidth use.

    2. Re:What about Bittorrent? by k_yarina · · Score: 1

      Sound a lot like freenet, if they ever solve the ongoing routing problems.

    3. Re:What about Bittorrent? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Bittorrent reduces the load on the central server by having everyone who downloads content upload content to other users. Couldn't a similar system be designed for HTTP connections?

      What a great idea! Something like a distributed network of caching web proxies. Quick! Patent this immediately!

      Young whippersnappers just don't know any better. And you idiot moderators who rated it +5 interesting. squid faq or NLANR.

    4. Re:What about Bittorrent? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Whoops, that should be squid cache faq.

    5. Re:What about Bittorrent? by SpaceCadetTrav · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I want untrusted third parties serving out content that represents me.

    6. Re:What about Bittorrent? by ticktockticktock · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Well with sha1 hashes that wouldn't be too much of a problem since the site could dish those out and the clients can use that to verify that the content indeed is the same as what the site says coming from untrusted parties.

      Imagine if a plugin for web browsers advertised their support for "protocol/torrent" when you visit www.site.com sort of like:
      GET / HTTP/1.1
      Host: www.site.com
      Accept: protocol/torrent,text/html,text/plain,image/png,im age/jpeg,image/gif
      Then the server, that wishes to have requests distributed would respond sort of like this:
      HTTP/1.1 302 FOUND
      Content-Type: protocol/torrent;text/html
      Location: torrent://www.site.com:6969/03cfd743661f07975fa2f1 220c5194cbaff48451
      Where the torrent:// URI would point the person's browser to the tracker to contact and what is after that is the sha1 hash of the content that the client can use to verify the integrity of what it downloaded from potentially untrusted third parties. As long as a user sits at a web page, the plugin could "seed" for others who wish to view the same page. When the user leaves the page, it would stop seeding that content immediately.
    7. Re:What about Bittorrent? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That would be nice if ... it worked worth a damn! How many BT downloads complete without corruption? 5% is one complete BS claim I've heard. From what I've seen, it's a much lower percentage. Disappearing trackers, seeders disconnecting, upload ratios of 10+ (who wants to upload 6GB just to download an ISO?), the infamous "errno 13 permission denied", and so on make BT useless for people that need things to work. I'd rather do without than waste my time with that crap.

      PS: Why in the hell would a moderator give a +5 to a comment suggesting using BT? That's ridiculous. Come-on guys, if you don't know anything about a topic, don't moderate topics about it.

    8. Re:What about Bittorrent? by KhalidBoussouara · · Score: 1

      I did not suggest using bittorrent. I suggested using a similar idea/concept but optimise it for web pages.

  36. DDoS on my server by ozzy_cow · · Score: 1

    I'm not sure if this is related, but last night about 5pm UTC my host http://www.ezzi.net got hit with a DDoS attack. Couple hours later they were up and running though.

    1. Re:DDoS on my server by glenstar · · Score: 1

      and since you posted it on /. those lucky bastards are about to get DDoSed again!

  37. from their support website by john_uy · · Score: 4, Informative
    Advisories

    Due to a peering problem between ATT and UUNet, a subset of UUNet users may have experienced problems accessing Akamai delivered sites between 8-10pm EDT on Saturday May 22, 2004. The problem has been fully resolved.

    Maybe the problem has recurred.

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    1. Re:from their support website by jea6 · · Score: 2, Informative

      This was a different issue altogether. Saturday's issue only affected incoming traffic from any UUNet network. Today's issue was much more widespread.

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  38. I don't think it was just Akami. by pedantic+bore · · Score: 2, Interesting
    I was having all kinds of problems browsing the web last night: about half the sites I tried to visit (including slashdot and freebsd.org) simply failed to connect. The others were perfectly fine. I didn't see any pattern to it, but I wasn't looking very hard.

    Since I've had problems like this with my ISP, I figured it was something local. I guess not.

    OK, moderate me redundant because now I see a million other people saw the same thing...

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    1. Re:I don't think it was just Akami. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can second that. I use Verizon DSL.

  39. noticed it too. by john_uy · · Score: 1
    for the past few minutes, i was actually searching for any news regarding akamai downtime (and here it is.) i thought it was just a local problem. but when i tried most to test different servers, they were unpingable a while ago. tried to get to ping and do traceroute from different lg and traceroute sites and all ended in * * *.

    maybe they autoupdated all their servers and made them reboot?

    let's see what updates they have on their support site.

    :)

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  40. Official Report by ps · · Score: 1, Insightful

    is due within the hour. We're pulling out our SLAs to find out what recourse we have against them. We were down for almost 90 min.

    1. Re:Official Report by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Oh, yeah, pull out that SLA and sue them! I feel so much safer now that you've got your SLA out.

      How the hell is this "Insightful"?

    2. Re:Official Report by Halo- · · Score: 1
      I realize I haven't the slightest idea what sort of business you are in, but I'm a little surprised to see you reaching for the SLA so quickly. I understand that recourse for outages is the who reason for a SLA, but have you had problems before? Are you going to pursue this if it turns out the problem wasn't the result of negligience and they made good faith efforts to get things resolved?

      It's completely plausable that a 90 minute outage is a big deal for you, but I have to wonder if it was such a big deal if why you didn't have redundancy built in. Sometimes, sh*t happens, especially when computers are involved.

      On the other hand, if you don't enforce a contract, does it lose it's teeth?

      I hope I'm not trolling here, especially since I sacrified the modpoints I'd already spent on this article. I'm just curious as to your position.

    3. Re:Official Report by djh101010 · · Score: 1

      I'm pretty sure the SLA says something about "proportional to the part of the month down". Maybe the day free, I dunno. Either way, I'm gonna call our Akamai sales guy and hit him up for a dozen or so Akamai shirts, just because.

      As to the AC who is blasting you for bringing up the SLA, well...what's the point of having a contract if there's not terms in there for violation of uptime promises? This stuff is all defined, and is part of why one would contract with someone like them.

      If the downtime had lasted much longer (as in, until I got to work), we would have pointed the cname to our origin server, bypassing Akamai's network until they got back up. Trivial workaround, if you're using Edgesuite - can all be handled at your own DNS servers. Worth switching to edgesuite for that reason if no other - cheaper incremental bandwidth costs and the ability to make it look like one of your own hosts in the URL is nice too.

    4. Re:Official Report by ps · · Score: 1

      As you said, if we don't enforce, it doesn't have teeth. We've had other problems (minor ones), but for the price we are paying we expect them to be able to handle the load. Their CEO talked to our CTO, and claimed a 100% uptime guarantee. Our CEO laughed at them.

      Are we going to drop them? No. They're too valuable to drop. But it will be used as leverage to get a better deal on the next contract renewal.

      Redundancy? If someone *guarantees* you 100% uptime (even if you know that's not possible) and the cost of ownership is less with them, then you go with them. Sure, we could have fallen back on our own servers. And if they had been down longer, we would have. But it's not something you can simply switch off instantaneously. And isn't redundancy what we are paying Akamai for? That's what they are selling.

  41. ah! caching DNS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    maybe there's a new DNS replace project going on,
    and their test runs are conflicting with the "old" DNS service.
    anyway, get a caching DNS server ...
    from my experience TODAY, once the name got resolved
    the rest of the data from the site would load like normal ...

  42. I've noted a big problem... by Eggplant62 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    .. with akamai-hosted sites that has an odd effect in Mozilla Firefox 0.8 on Linux. A combination of Firefox doing an unnecessary reverse lookup on the IP that's being connected to (this is in addition to the regular forward lookup to get the IP, and waits until timeout, usually 30 seconds) and akamai's lack of any reverse zones configured for their boxes.

    A buddy of mine worked through further diagnosis to reveal this problem and registered a bug report with the MozDev team, however, after he contacted Google to inform them of the problem, they put in a blank in-addr.arpa zone file for their IP's, which resulted in an immediate negative result on that reverse zone lookup. If the rest of akamai would get on the stick and do the same, the problem would be history.

    1. Re:I've noted a big problem... by Cioby · · Score: 1

      The rest of the akamai = the rest of isp's in the world (who have some akamai boxes).

      While you're at it, please also convice them to filter out the packets who's source address does not belong to theyr network...

      Good luck

    2. Re:I've noted a big problem... by Cramer · · Score: 1

      Reverse DNS is the responsibility of the hosting ISP. And yes, they are required to maintain reverse dns entires for the address range assigned to the caches.

      I've installed Akamai cache servers before. I don't remember the terms of the contract but I do remember this as a line item on the pre-installation check list.

  43. was setting a new computer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    and thought my router was having problems.
    Happens every time!

  44. akamai and spamcop.net by Hayzeus · · Score: 1

    I've noticed that akamai seems to carry an mx record for www.spamcop.net. As of the last couple of days. I can't seem to resolve bl.spamcop.net -- is this the same issue? Anone else having this problem?

    1. Re:akamai and spamcop.net by mlefevre · · Score: 1

      bl.spamcop.net isn't a host - it's never been possible to resolve it. To get a result, you have to look up something like 1.0.0.127.bl.spamcop.net. The DNS for spamcop.net is handled by Akamai (because Akamai handle some of the website processing), but the DNS for the BL isn't - Akamai's servers delegate that to a server hosted at Spamcop, and a few mirrors elsewhere.

      The Akamai issue did indeed affect www.spamcop.net, but I don't think your problems are related to that.

  45. michaelmoore.com by dario_moreno · · Score: 3, Funny

    seems also to be down. I was trying to access it after the Cannes result, and thought the US government had censored it...

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    1. Re:michaelmoore.com by shadowcabbit · · Score: 1

      [michaelmoore.com] seems also to be down. I was trying to access it after the Cannes result, and thought the US government had censored it...

      That, my friend, takes a special kind of paranoia.

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  46. Symantec by bubba_ry · · Score: 1

    I do know that Symantec's site is difficult to reach and they use Akamai.

    I worry about my AV updates being incomplete...

  47. 2.5 hours downtime by m0i · · Score: 1

    As seen on http://alpha.cesmail.net/graphics/spamstats.gif

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  48. Akamai says it's a bug in the software, not DDoS by tsu+doh+nimh · · Score: 5, Informative

    A guy I spoke with this morning at Akamai said this morning that the problem was NOT the result of any outside attack on the company's servers. Rather, he said, the problem stemmed from a bug within a tool that allows customers to purge old content and update their cache with new content. Akamai said the problem lasted about 90 minutes, and affected numerous Akamai customers. No response, though, as to why this bug suddenly reared its head.

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  49. Haha by Short+Circuit · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Akamai provides a DNS load balancing solution to many major internet companies/sites including (but notlimited to) Google, Yahoo, etc. Is it a bad idea to rely so heavily upon one service for our major internet needs?

    Don't you see the irony? How much of the internet populace depends on Google for their searching needs?

    I suspect the problem here, as there, is that there aren't many who can compete at a service level.

  50. Problems last nite was Qwest to Verizon by Jaiden · · Score: 0

    Last night, the problem I saw was that Qwest couldn't connect to Verizon. Verizon in MA was basically hard down because of this. I got the Qwest guys and the Verizon guys working on it. Sucks to have a client in Hong Kong that calls me in the middle of the night when they can't get their email.

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    1. Re:Problems last nite was Qwest to Verizon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      see! teaches you to get your own hard ip and setup your own mail-server (in HONGKONG)!

  51. Here's what's happening by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Currently akamai is configured as an open proxy. This is obviously bad (for them), since anyone can steal the service they're selling for big bucks.

    Try:
    http://a40.g.akamaitech.net/7/40/1601/1d/i mages.sl ashdot.org/topics/topiclinux.gif

    (it works with ANY URL)

    Obviously, they noticed it, and tried to fix it. Their fix turned out to block valid customers (like Apple, as has been mentioned), so now they have rolled it back to the free-for-all setup.

    They're probably working on a better fix right now.

  52. Akamais distributed DNS & content solutions by akaiONE · · Score: 5, Informative
    Akamai may have problems from time to time over in the US, while not in Europe. The fact that Akamai uses a distributed network of both DNS and content servers helps them deliver content to most users in other regions even if some servers are down in the US.

    This is nicely commented on in a recent story over at CFO where it says "Broadly speaking, Akamai needs servers near the consumers of content..[] Akamai, on the other hand, has servers pretty much everywhere."

    To trim the facts down a bit: Akamai has servers near by most users these days, and the distributed DNS gives you returning DNS to the closest contentserver. If I, who live in Norway, try to access fbi.gov from any computer from a ISP connected to the NIX (Norwegian Internet eXchange) I get a DNS response that leads me to Akamais servers in Oslo, Norway. I've tried this for some time, just to see what happens, with cnn.com, apple.com and fbi.gov. While on a trip to Sweden I tried this while connecting through a local DSL-provider and I got a response from a server located in Sweden, hence even the swedes have their own Akamai mirror these days.

    The problems with a DDOS from someone in Norway would, if directed towards a domain or webpage and not an IP-address lead to downtime on that specific local mirror, not Akamais entire network. We can from this conclude that only such events as a major blackout in Akamais core network or like this time, DOS'ing their own network would take out their service.

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    1. Re:Akamais distributed DNS & content solutions by akaiONE · · Score: 1
      "..recent story"
      Err.. a story *I* read recently :-)

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    2. Re:Akamais distributed DNS & content solutions by maelfius · · Score: 1

      Speaking with other divisions of my company I know that this issue ALSO affected Europe, more global than expected?

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  53. Nothing to see here...move along. by Hiawatha · · Score: 2, Informative

    Akamai just told me it was a 90-minute glitch (between 8 and 9:30 Eastern time) caused by a software bug. The company says everything's back to normal.

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    1. Re:Nothing to see here...move along. by jea6 · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Nothing to see here...move along

      Considering Akamai hosts the web sites for the like of the White House, FBI, and Dept of Homeland Security (among other gov't agencies), an Akamai outage is slightly more than "nothing to see here." Unless you are making a political statement, I guess.

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    2. Re:Nothing to see here...move along. by user32.ExitWindowsEx · · Score: 1

      Well, if Akamai is down, then there would be nothing to see most places, wouldn't there? :P

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  54. I'd say it's near a natural monopoly... by Kjella · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ...for those that don't know, a market where it is unprofitable to be the 2nd company around (usually, you can sell cheap because the major company wants to reap profits). A small "Akamai" competitor is no competitor at all, really. You need to have a similar huge network in order to compete. They would undoubtably clash and one would come out as the winner.

    So well, if it hadn't been Akamai it'd probably be someone else. Of course, one company can still build a helluva redundant network, if they want to... it's just usually not cost-efficient.

    Kjella

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    1. Re:I'd say it's near a natural monopoly... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There are competitors to Akamai. One is Speedera, who are much cheaper. Of course, they allegedly achieved this by stealing Akamai's trade secrets.

  55. pretty insane bandwidth: on average 40+ GPS by patrickoehlinger · · Score: 1

    From there webpage
    ...Akamai routinely delivers 15% of the total Web traffic and pushes on average 40+ GPS (and growing)...
    Now if I would know what the hell GPS means.
    I don't think the mean Global Positioning System or misspeld GB/sec?!

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    1. Re:pretty insane bandwidth: on average 40+ GPS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      From there webpage

      "their".

      think the mean

      "they".

      misspeld

      "misspelled" or "mis-spelled".

  56. Akamai was down from 8:00am to 9:15am by dloyer · · Score: 3, Informative
    We are an Akamai customer. All of our content cached through Akamai was offline for a little over an hour as measured by keynote, a site testing tool.

    I spoke with Akamai support. They indicated that it was a far reaching problem, but I have not heard the reason yet.

    The customer login to the admin portal was down as well. It was almost like someone dump the customer account database.

    Akamai has a QOS commitment of 100% uptime based on the idea that not all of the 1,000's of servers could go down at the same time. But... There you go.

  57. Re: DHS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    This information has been deemed classified. Please remove all information on how to disable Homeland Security notices from this and any other computer that it may reside on.

    The FBI counter terrorism task force in conjunction with the FBI computer security teams will be contacting you shortly.

    Thank you for your cooperation.

  58. "Not much details?" by bonch · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    You mean, not many details?

    Come on, Hemos. You're always making dumb grammar mistakes. This place looks so unprofessional as a result.

    1. Re:"Not much details?" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Do you mean "grammatical mistakes"?

    2. Re:"Not much details?" by bonch · · Score: 1

      No. My usage was correct.

      Next.

    3. Re:"Not much details?" by ejdmoo · · Score: 1

      No it wasn't. Grammar is a noun.

      It isn't an adjective. In a lot of cases in English, you can use nouns as adjectives (ex: computer, computer industry), but only when there is no alternative.

      Then again, someone will reply with "proper language is defined by the people." Just remember, you started it!

      *rant over*

  59. God be with them by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm sorry to hear of their trouble. I offer prayers for Akamai.

  60. latest advisory by john_uy · · Score: 3, Interesting
    from contol.akamai.com

    Akamai is aware of a service interuption earlier today affecting content delivery.

    We have identified the root cause and have implemented the fix. Issues retrieving content should be decreasing or resolved. Updates will continue to be posted on the Akamai Edge Control Management Center.

    so there is something wrong with their cdn. so much for 100% availability. my guess, all the edge servers were ok but there may be a problem with their noc or software.

    :)

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    1. Re:latest advisory by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      "Akamai Customer Response - May 24rd 2004 11:41am ET Degradation Issue
      An isolated issue occurred this morning (roughly during the period of 8:00 a.m. - 9:30 a.m. ET), where multiple Akamai customers experienced intermittent performance and availability degradation.

      This degradation was the result of a bug within one of Akamai's backend content control management tools, which allows the expiration of content on the Akamai network. The degradation was not a result of any outside interference with Akamai's network (such as Denial of Service or hacking).

      Upon identification of the bug, Akamai quickly took corrective action which returned customers to normal service levels. Akamai is currently putting measures in place to return the content management tool to its normal working order and is adding safeguards such that the issue will not occur in the future. In the meantime, Akamai customers are able to serve their content through the Akamai Network normally."

      We were affected too, this is the RCA.

    2. Re:latest advisory by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "It was an isolated issue which occurred roughly during the period of 8:00 a.m. - 9:20 a.m. ET, where multiple Akamai customers experienced intermittent performance and availability degradation. This degradation was the result of a bug within one of Akamai's backend content control management tools, which allows the expiration of content on the Akamai network"

  61. OMG, they've been /.ed! by aaron_pet · · Score: 1

    I was expecting to see lots of jokes about them being slashdotted. Oh well.

    When it comes down to it...

    They're still...
    ... only human.

    ..and I love the fact they they hostted the M$ site on Linux.

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  62. Remember when Akamai DoS'd Microsoft? by freelunch · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It took Microsoft down for DAYS.

    All due to a router config bug introduced by Microsoft.. So it was really Microsoft DoSing themselves via Akamai.

    And it would be unfair to blame the router config for more than a few hours of outage. The big problem was the complete and utter paralysis of management on the conference calls.

    I don't think the details of that outage have been leaked much. It was quite a hoot talking to those involved during the outage. And it wasn't hard, given the duration.

    It is my recollection that the problem related to Microsoft's filtering DNS requests from Akamai.

  63. A glass house moment... by Snork+Asaurus · · Score: 1
    I don't think the mean Global Positioning System or misspeld GB/sec?!

    You misspelled the word "misspelled".

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  64. end of internet by tsadi · · Score: 1
    It's the end of the Internet as you know it.

    No, no, no, The End of the Internet is here

  65. i've always wondered... by Scottarius · · Score: 1

    how exactly do you pronounce "Akamai" ? It's one of those words that I use and see only online, but never have to actually speak, or have ever heard anybody speak. Or maybe it was just never meant to be spoken.

    1. Re:i've always wondered... by ps · · Score: 2, Informative

      ak a my

      Simple. Just like it looks.

  66. Better alternative by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    one word: Speedera. I've used both Akamai and Speedera, and Speedera has better service, better tools, better people to deal with, and much better prices.

  67. That's why by tkrotchko · · Score: 1

    Comcast has been having lots of DNS problems, so I used Posadis (http://www.possadis.org) as what amounts to a caching DNS server on my local network.

    The new version works very well, and will make your network connection seem much faster.

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  68. Explaination from Akamai by slashusrslashbin · · Score: 5, Informative

    An isolated issue occurred this morning (roughly during the period of 8:00 a.m. - 9:30 a.m. ET), where multiple Akamai customers experienced intermittent performance and availability degradation.

    This degradation was the result of a bug within one of Akamai's backend content control management tools, which allows the expiration of content on the Akamai network. The degradation was not a result of any outside interference with Akamai's network (such as Denial of Service or hacking).

    Upon identification of the bug, Akamai quickly took corrective action which returned customers to normal service levels. Akamai is currently putting measures in place to return the content management tool to its normal working order and is adding safeguards such that the issue will not occur in the future. In the meantime, Akamai customers are able to serve their content through the Akamai Network normally.

    As part of Akamai's normal proactive customer communication policy, Akamai customers will be kept informed of the latest developments through the Akamai portal, the EdgeControl Management Center, https://control.akamai.com. Any further inquiries may be directed at Akamai Customer Care at 1-877-4-AKATEC.

  69. One word... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Speedera

    Many companies dont rely solely on these guys.

    Check em out ;-)

    http://www.speedera.com

  70. One Possibility.... by Afty0r · · Score: 1

    Akamais system will cache anything it is asked to (other comments in this thread link to pages that tell you how to use Akamai to get around censorship of sites, or to cache your own material) so I guess all the DOSers would have to do is to tell each local Akamai box in each rack to cache, say, a few thousand large files each that they do not already cache?

    In this way a few thousand bytes of http requests could make the Akamai servers *EACH* attempt to fetch terrabytes, or more, of data...

  71. It's probably a test by ites · · Score: 1

    My theory of the apparently "random" DDoS attacks we've seen in the past years is that they are tests of new attack strategies, and possibly demonstrations for potential clients / black-mail victims, etc.

    If you can bring down Akamai, you can bring down anyone.

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  72. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 1

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  73. Weather.com Problems? by thbarnes · · Score: 1

    It seems weather.com images are not coming through as well. Perhaps this is related?

  74. Re:OT rant by E_elven · · Score: 1

    Unfortunately this would be breaking news on the local TV channels in the US. I swear, if I win the lottery I'm going to start my own news program.

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  75. Restarting all those servers... by madssj · · Score: 1

    ...One could wonder if they have an emergency plan if e.g. some evil hacker was to shut down all their servers. Unless they got remote power management it would be a looong day on the phone with a lot of people.

  76. Scalability and bandwidth by billstewart · · Score: 2, Informative
    No, Akamai as a whole really does have humongous amount of bandwidth, it's just distributed among 14000+ small machines. Their web site says they crank out "40 GPS", which is probably gigabits per second rather than gigabytes per second, so that's about 3 Mbps per machine, and that's probably aggregate peak delivered bandwidth, but most of their machines probably have a lot more capacity than that (10 Mbps would seem to be obvious for the smaller Ethernet-connected ones), because different machines will be busy at different times. It's not the kind of job that needs lots of CPU, but it does need lots of memory (at least by the standards of when the initial machines were deployed), because you don't want to wait 10ms for a disk drive to fetch your data when the reason the content provided chose you was to speed up their delivery and cut out latency (though you could get some performance wins by locking the first 10-20ms of each file in RAM and paging the rest.)

    Akamai's competitors have different scaling tradeoffs. The last time I knew numbers was a couple of years ago, and it may have changed, but Akamai had a very large number of mostly small servers located on many carriers networks, AT&T had a couple hundred very large servers (mostly at peering points, which takes advantage of being a carrier, though they also bought some transit for content distribution), and Speedera was somewhere in between. AT&T's directions included lots of streaming media, and Akamai was doing fancy database things.

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    1. Re:Scalability and bandwidth by r_cerq · · Score: 1

      Read what I wrote: they install their PoPs, consisting of variable amounts of their own machines, in middle-to-large ISPs. Their servers, third party bandwidth (the ISPs'). I should know, I have one of them two floors below the chair I'm sitting on :-)

  77. Software Problem Fixed Now by billstewart · · Score: 1
    A more recent NANOG post says it was a backend software problem that's now fixed.


    An isolated issue occurred Monday May 24, 2004 (roughly during the period of 8:00 a.m. - 9:30 a.m. ET), where multiple Akamai customers experienced intermittent performance and availability degradation.

    This degradation was the result of a bug within one of Akamais backend content control management tools, which allows the expiration of content on the Akamai network. The degradation was not a result of any outside interference with Akamai's network (such as Denial of Service or hacking).

    Upon identification of the bug, Akamai quickly took corrective action which returned customers to normal service levels. Akamai is currently putting measures in place to return the content management tool to its normal working order and is adding safeguards such that the issue will not occur in the future. In the meantime, Akamai customers are able to serve their content through the Akamai Network normally.

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  78. DNS-based Global Server Load Balancing doesnt work by adamspiers · · Score: 1
    Is it a bad idea to rely so heavily upon one service for our major internet needs?

    Of course it is a bad idea.

    Correct, especially when it's DNS-based load balancing. See this excellent document for a full explanation:

    http://www.tenereillo.com/GSLBPageOfShame.htm

  79. Pronunciation Guide by Lorenzo+de+Medici · · Score: 1
    And while it's not a direct comment about the problem, everyone I know seems to want to pronounce it *Uh*-Kah-Mee with a strong emphasis on the first syllable. Akamai co-founder and chief scientist Tom Leighton has a video tour of the Akamai NOCC where he clearly pronounces it Ah-kah-my.

    Am I the only one who has noticed that when you have a society of geeks who communicate mostly by text, there is a great disparity in the way people choose to pronounce things? At least most of us have settled on a pronunciation of Linux and J. K. Rowling's Hermione.

  80. Re:OT rant by darb_is_fat · · Score: 1

    Why start your own news broadcast when there's Naked News?

  81. full cause by john_uy · · Score: 1
    from control.akamai.com


    Between 8:10 AM EDT and 9:30 AM EDT (GMT-4) on Monday, May 24, 2004, Akamai customers using EdgeSuite and other Akamai Services experienced extensive performance and availability issues.


    This incident stemmed from processing an invalid command generated from one of Akamai's backend content control management tools. This tool controls the expiration of content on the Akamai network.


    Although there are numerous safety checks designed to engage before commands are sent to Akamai's servers, an invalid command sent out by one of the content control management tools bypassed two key safety checks.


    Because Akamai's servers are programmed to restart when presented with an invalid request, once the invalid content control had bypassed these safety checks, Akamai servers continuously halted and restarted in an effort to process all of our customers' pending content management commands.


    The problem was immediately detected by Akamai's automated monitoring systems, and Akamai personnel had localized the problem and identified a solution by 8:40AM EDT. The solution was immediately deployed on the network and by 9:30AM EDT, the problem had been completely resolved.


    We regret any inconvenience this may have caused you or your users. Please contact your customer care representative if you have any questions.

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  82. It's such a nice color, leave it! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Even if it is BSOD'd I guess it is still "UP".

  83. imdb.com is a bit broken still... by GiT · · Score: 0

    the images aren't loading, and surprise surprise:

    $ host i.imdb.com
    i.imdb.com is an alias for i.imdb.com.edgesuite.net.
    i.imdb.com.edgesuite.ne t is an alias for a1969.l.akamai.net.
    a1969.l.akamai.net has address 65.200.201.6
    a1969.l.akamai.net has address 65.200.201.15
    a1969.l.akamai.net has address 65.200.201.29
    a1969.l.akamai.net has address 65.200.201.5

    akamai. I guess they are still having 'issues'

  84. Who cares? by phizman · · Score: 1

    What does Akamai do for me? Hosts lots of annoying popup ads, shockwave ads, and adware. Most of the adware I find hooked in IE has a codebase from akamai. /enjoyed an ad free day

  85. Official statement from Akamai by LordJezo · · Score: 1

    Summary:

    Between 8:10 AM EST and 9:30 AM EST on Monday, May 24, 2004, Akamai customers using EdgeSuite and other Akamai Services experienced extensive performance and availability issues.

    This incident stemmed from processing an invalid command generated from one of Akamai's backend content control management tools. This tool controls the expiration of content on the Akamai network.

    Although there are numerous safety checks designed to engage before commands are sent to Akamai's servers, an invalid command sent out by one of the content control management tools bypassed two key safety checks.

    Because Akamai's servers are programmed to restart when presented with an invalid request, once the invalid content control had bypassed these safety checks, Akamai servers continuously halted and restarted in an effort to process all of our customers' pending content management commands.

    The problem was immediately detected by Akamai's automated monitoring systems, and Akamai personnel had localized the problem and identified a solution by 8:40AM EST. The solution was immediately deployed on the network and by 9:30AM EST, the problem had been completely resolved.

    We regret any inconvenience this may have caused you or your users. Please contact your customer care representative if you have any questions.

    More Details:
    The Akamai content control system manages the expiration (purging) of content on Akamai's EdgeSuite, EdgeSuite Secure, and Streaming networks. It consists of a collection of tools that validate and authorize content expiration requests, and then generates a set of commands for the content servers. These commands are distributed to the content servers every few minutes.

    These commands go through a number of safety checks before being sent to the content servers. As part of Akamai's design philosophy and software engineering practices, all control messages go through multiple levels of safety checks, including a test on the code in the live system. However, this morning, an invalid command was sent out because of defects in two key safety checks.

    The first safety check was bypassed because the command triggered a specialized, rarely-used configuration for managing content. The second safety check, which causes content servers to reject malformed commands in the live system, had a defect introduced into it during the release of EdgeSuite 5.0 in April 2004 that effectively had disabled this check.

    Processing the invalid command caused Akamai servers to halt and restart. When Akamai servers restart, they process all pending content management commands to ensure that the content they serve remains consistent. During restart, the servers would thus attempt to reprocess the invalid command, which would cause Akamai's servers to again halt and restart repeatedly.

    After the problem was resolved at 9:30 AM EST, the content control management tools were then re-enabled at 12:30 AM EST, with the exception that processing is still disabled for the specialized configuration that bypassed the safety checks. The processing for this specialized configuration will be enabled in the near future. Akamai is also conducting an audit of all safety checks associated with the content control management tools.