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30Gigs Web Mail Launches Into Beta

gaanagaa writes "Neowin reports, that a new web mail service launched today is promising to bring users an email inbox of 30gb." The original intent of 30gigs.com was apparently to create an "'All in one' site for the webmaster and avid computer users. According to the sites 'about us' page, combining personal file storage, GD2 signatures and anonymous email all in one service, which would be free." In their brief review of the service a Neowin user also offers a word of caution with regards to their extremely short terms of service and privacy policy, calling them "shady".

320 comments

  1. Send me an invite? by rdwald · · Score: 4, Funny

    Can someone give me an invite? Oh, and maybe First Post.

    1. Re:Send me an invite? by LucidOndine · · Score: 0, Redundant

      Yea Yea! Someone have an invite for me, too?

    2. Re:Send me an invite? by SpectreBinary · · Score: 5, Funny

      pfft. 30 gigs ought to be enough for anybody.

    3. Re:Send me an invite? by gijsvanswaaij · · Score: 0, Redundant

      Sure. Just like "640K of memory should be enough for anybody" (Bill G.)

    4. Re:Send me an invite? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Can I have an invitation too? Thanks a lot!

      sooqing[AT]yahoo[DOT]com[DOT]sg

    5. Re:Send me an invite? by Dappa+D · · Score: 0, Redundant

      I would be greatful if someone could send one to me also. Thanks!

    6. Re:Send me an invite? by RuleZ · · Score: 0, Redundant

      I also will be pleasured if someone give me invite!

    7. Re:Send me an invite? by l_bratch · · Score: 0, Redundant

      An invite for me would be just great:

      l_bratch@yahoo.co.uk

    8. Re:Send me an invite? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Great! Could someone invite me, please? ktyim@yahoo.com

    9. Re:Send me an invite? by Dappa+D · · Score: 0, Redundant

      adagnall@gmail.com - thanks

    10. Re:Send me an invite? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Imagine if you'd have gotten that first post.. that would have been SO COOL!!

      But alas, you fail

    11. Re:Send me an invite? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ~10 invites here.

      Get them while they're hot!

    12. Re:Send me an invite? by dimosc · · Score: 1

      I could use an invitation, thanks :)

      dimosc{AT}yahoo{DOT}com

    13. Re:Send me an invite? by PwakMan · · Score: 1

      I would love to have 1 too some one ?? pwakman@gmail.com

    14. Re:Send me an invite? by pookie13 · · Score: 0

      I would also like an invite. karpanen@gmail.com thanks!

    15. Re:Send me an invite? by BlueTrin · · Score: 1

      heh I have to admit that I would REALLY like to have an invite

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    16. Re:Send me an invite? by c0007031 · · Score: 1

      Please, please, please send me an invite!! I promise I will thank you back :P -> zepinto (At) gmail [dOt] com

    17. Re:Send me an invite? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      can anybody send me an invitation, too thx
      admin ( at ) gfx-artwork.de

    18. Re:Send me an invite? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Invite me please!!!

    19. Re:Send me an invite? by MP3+God · · Score: 1

      The firt person who gives me an invite will go to heaven with 27 virgins! brian(at)brian-esser.com

    20. Re:Send me an invite? by himanshuarora · · Score: 0

      me too. speed.cATgmail.com

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    21. Re:Send me an invite? by AlexandreMarcondes · · Score: 1

      I would like one also: alexandre[DOT]marcondes[AT]gmail[DOT]com

    22. Re:Send me an invite? by bumlike · · Score: 1

      i would love an invite.. bumlike@hotmail.com see... im still using hotmail. someone save me!

    23. Re:Send me an invite? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    24. Re:Send me an invite? by Oroppas · · Score: 1

      can you send me an invitation, too? Oroppas[AT]gmail[DOT]com Thanks!

    25. Re:Send me an invite? by dfic · · Score: 1

      i would like to check it out. send me an invite please davidfic+slashdot AT gmail DOT com

    26. Re:Send me an invite? by ThomasGHenry · · Score: 1

      If anyone's throwing invites out please chuck one this way as well ThomasGHenry {@t} Gmail dawt com

    27. Re:Send me an invite? by kaaarthik · · Score: 1

      Can I have an invitation too at ckkarthik (at) gmail (dot) com? Thanks a lot!

    28. Re:Send me an invite? by dtsone · · Score: 1

      I'd love an invite. dtsellers@gmail.com. Thanks!

    29. Re:Send me an invite? by notthe9 · · Score: 1

      I'd love one, should someone feel generous.

      mikegraham@gmail.com

      I'm not afraid: google will handle the SPAM.

    30. Re:Send me an invite? by cp.tar · · Score: 1
      Unlike most of the losers begging for an invite in this thread, I don't have to type my e-mail address in the post body.

      Any benevolent soul with an invite can just remove /.'s protection and send it to me.

      Much obliged.

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    31. Re:Send me an invite? by MonkeyBoy369i · · Score: 1

      I'd also like an invite. Any idea what the individual e-mail size limitation is? google is set at 10 Mb. Makes it difficult for the 50 Mb pron vid's to make it through.

    32. Re:Send me an invite? by joesucks · · Score: 1

      can i get one too. thanks in adv. jps_27@yahoodotcom

    33. Re:Send me an invite? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I would also like one if anyone wants to be a friend

      jasonunterman[at]gmail[dot]com

    34. Re:Send me an invite? by papalarge · · Score: 1

      I'd love an invite... kwylie[at]gmail[dot]com

    35. Re:Send me an invite? by joesucks · · Score: 1

      can some one please send me an invite too. I am very eager to test this one. Thanks in adv. jps_27[at]yahoo[dot]com

    36. Re:Send me an invite? by L0rdJedi · · Score: 1

      I could use an invite as well.

      jedimcg[at]gmail[dot]com

      Thanks

    37. Re:Send me an invite? by romerom · · Score: 1

      can someone also send me an invite @ r o m e r o m at g m a i l dot com

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    38. Re:Send me an invite? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ill go with the flow and beg for an invite. a n d y [dot] n a n c e [at] g m a i l [dot] c o m

    39. Re:Send me an invite? by lancelott · · Score: 1

      I would really appreciate an invite too. lancelott *AT* gmail *DOT* com

    40. Re:Send me an invite? by pras2k · · Score: 1

      Can anyone send me invite at pras2k@gmail.com

    41. Re:Send me an invite? by markryson · · Score: 1

      Please send me an invite to markryson@walla.com if you can. Thanks!

    42. Re:Send me an invite? by MP3+God · · Score: 1

      You're so cool Captain Tard.

    43. Re:Send me an invite? by shOOter---22 · · Score: 1

      Could you send me an invite please :) Thanks shOOter---

    44. Re:Send me an invite? by the_aleduke · · Score: 1

      I would like to have an account to. Please mail to aleduke[at]gmail.com and thanks in advance!

    45. Re:Send me an invite? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I could use an invitation, thanks :)

      mister_2k {AT}hotmail {DOT}com

  2. Malibu by Blimundus · · Score: 3, Funny

    According to their website, they provide you with a "malibox"!

    1. Re:Malibu by Celt · · Score: 1

      I'm curious what benefits this offers over a standard mailbox, any ideas?

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    2. Re:Malibu by Baddas · · Score: 2, Funny

      http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/ ml.html

      Apparently a landlocked west african country with a democratic government and a sadly low life expectancy.

      Why one would want a box there, I have no idea.

    3. Re:Malibu by netmasta · · Score: 1

      Lol, I heard about "malibox" yeaterday on BBR. If they can't even spell mail right then I'm gonna stay far away from them. Besides who needs 30GB for mail? I've only used 13MB of my 1GB on Yahoo!, and I'm "saving" more messages, to try and fill it up.
      BTW, they fixed it now. "30 GigaByte mailbox"

  3. 30 GB?!?!?! 250K oughta be enough for anyone! by Palal · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I can't fill up my 2 gigs on Gmail, nor my gig on Y! mail, why in the world would I need 30 gigs?

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    1. Re:30 GB?!?!?! 250K oughta be enough for anyone! by master_gopher · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Agreed, mail servers seem to be trying endlessly to outdo one another on storage, whereas it's the systems which attract most people I know. As argues elsewhere, many Yahoo!ers prefer to stay with Yahoo despite gmail, because they like/are used to the setup.

    2. Re:30 GB?!?!?! 250K oughta be enough for anyone! by Baricom · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I agree that competing on storage is kind of pointless now, but when Gmail launched last year offering a gigabyte of space, that was a really big deal. People were used to having to delete their e-mail every so often; now, they didn't have to.

      There's not much difference between 1 gigabyte and 30, but there's a huge difference between 5 MB and 1 GB.

    3. Re:30 GB?!?!?! 250K oughta be enough for anyone! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      To store files you want accesible from any computer that can browse the web. Probably a good place to stick family photo's, music files, and home videos.

    4. Re:30 GB?!?!?! 250K oughta be enough for anyone! by MikeFM · · Score: 1

      I get more than a gig of email a day not even counting the couple gigs I get of pics, video, etc (pr0n) a day. I use a gmail account up in about a day and due to their poor design of trash it's a significant pain trying to pipe all that through their service. Luckily I have my own servers so it's not a problem for me. ;)

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    5. Re:30 GB?!?!?! 250K oughta be enough for anyone! by MikeFM · · Score: 1, Interesting

      The number one GMail feature for me was the free pop access. I used to use Yahoo for that and then they started wanting to charge for it. I haven't looked to see if they've made it free again..

      If only GMail would let you delete messages read by pop instead of just trashing them. Trash uses quota which quickly, for some of us, limits how much mail we can move through GMail.

      I'm cheating and developed a program that reads my incoming mail for attachments, collects the attachments, inserts web links to the attachements, and passes the rest through to my usual mail program (still leaving me with over a gig of mail a day). After seeing how popular the trial version I offered was I'm rewriting the whole thing to handle bandwidth usage better. I can't believe Yahoo and Google are to dense to care about this market. Yahoo and Google Groups are both crap and that is what generates the majority of this traffic.

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    6. Re:30 GB?!?!?! 250K oughta be enough for anyone! by b100dian · · Score: 1

      2 Gigs? 30GB? who can fill that if your attachement size is limited?!?
      Seriously, just state "unlimited space" and make sure you adjust that attachement size by observing the daily increase of used space..
      Or: leave 2GB, but allow a 650Mb attachement! err.. wait, two

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    7. Re:30 GB?!?!?! 250K oughta be enough for anyone! by pahles · · Score: 5, Funny

      I get more than a gig of email a day not even counting the couple gigs I get of pics, video, etc (pr0n) a day.

      No wonder the internet is slow...

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    8. Re:30 GB?!?!?! 250K oughta be enough for anyone! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      I can't fill up my 2 gigs on Gmail, nor my gig on Y! mail, why in the world would I need 30 gigs?

      That is girltalk!

    9. Re:30 GB?!?!?! 250K oughta be enough for anyone! by aussie_a · · Score: 1

      when Gmail launched last year offering a gigabyte of space, that was a really big deal. People were used to having to delete their e-mail every so often; now, they didn't have to.

      Right. Fast forward 1 year now, and it's not big news. Anyone who wants a decent size to their e-mail has one. 5MB and 30GB might be a big difference, but no-one is being forced to use 5MB, anyone that wants more is getting more.

    10. Re:30 GB?!?!?! 250K oughta be enough for anyone! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So you wrote a porn harvester? Cool!

    11. Re:30 GB?!?!?! 250K oughta be enough for anyone! by PhotoBoy · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I run a few webmail systems myself, you would be amazed at how quickly people manage to eat up space. On one system we have a problem with people who sign up, turn off the spam blocker and then sign up for lots of spam. Their inbox fills up but they never actually use the service, making us wonder what the point to signing up was. We suspect it's just people who have a grudge against the company to whom we are supplying the webmail.

    12. Re:30 GB?!?!?! 250K oughta be enough for anyone! by MikeFM · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Email is really a horrible bunch of protocols not at all designed for real world use today. It seems crazy to me that we shunt around binaries encoded as text and that we have to pass duplicates along the same path rather than sending a single copy. Not to even get into the mess Email is in other ways. It'd be nice if major email providers at least could arrange a more effecient means of trading mail. I hope Yahoo, Google, etc don't store every single copy of duplicate messages and attachments. That'd just be stupid.

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    13. Re:30 GB?!?!?! 250K oughta be enough for anyone! by Itchy+Rich · · Score: 4, Funny

      From 30gigs.com: "Our main goal is to increase our space even further, to 50 gigs, or maybe 100 as time goes on."

      Looks like they're going to keep changing their name to match the storage capacity. Foolish marketeers know nothing about encapsulation.

    14. Re:30 GB?!?!?! 250K oughta be enough for anyone! by ColaMan · · Score: 1

      What, you mean something like nntp?

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    15. Re:30 GB?!?!?! 250K oughta be enough for anyone! by MikeFM · · Score: 1

      Is nntp any better? Like smtp it was designed for a much gentler Internet where security wasn't much of an issue and people didn't try to send 8GB files to 100's of their closest friends. Most of these protocols don't even handle character sets in a reasonable manner.

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    16. Re:30 GB?!?!?! 250K oughta be enough for anyone! by tommertron · · Score: 2, Funny
      There's not much difference between 1 gigabyte and 30, but there's a huge difference between 5 MB and 1 GB.

      For the record: 1 GB = 200 times more than 5 MB; 30 GB = 30 times more than 1 GB.

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    17. Re:30 GB?!?!?! 250K oughta be enough for anyone! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The number one GMail feature for me was the free pop access. I used to use Yahoo for that and then they started wanting to charge for it. I haven't looked to see if they've made it free again..

      Yeah, I've been using free POP access with Yahoo for about 5 years. I did read something about them charging for it, but my access has carried on working. If I stopped getting POP access I'd drop my Yahoo account, otherwise I can't be bothered to change. If it makes any difference it's a .co.uk address.

    18. Re:30 GB?!?!?! 250K oughta be enough for anyone! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      looks like when they change from their storage from 30 GB to 50GB or 100GB, then they will have to change their URL: 50gigs.com (taken) or 100gigs.com

      Unless I can attach a file larger than 10Mb, then I will not switch my Gmail or Yahoo! account.

    19. Re:30 GB?!?!?! 250K oughta be enough for anyone! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      just for the record, he's talking about a practical difference, not the mathematical one. Way to miss his point completely!

    20. Re:30 GB?!?!?! 250K oughta be enough for anyone! by Nutria · · Score: 1

      Is nntp any better? Like smtp it was designed for a much gentler Internet where security wasn't much of an issue and people didn't try to send 8GB files to 100's of their closest friends.

      But that's the point: you don't do that with nntp. Your 8GB file gets uploaded one time along the slow link from your PC to the hi-speed backbone, not hundreds of times, like with email or a local FTP server.

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    21. Re:30 GB?!?!?! 250K oughta be enough for anyone! by Total_Wimp · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It's a testiment to convenience. People use email in the ways they do, and ignore other protocols that are more suitable, becaue it's just easier for them.

      At the company I work for I constantly get requests to let larger and larger attachments through. The reason? We make it hard for them to get data out any other way. Our bosses are (somewhat justifiably) paranoid about opening up easy access to our file system from outside the company so the users use the one method that's relatively open, email.

      You see this all over the place. Would you tell your aunt that it's ok to open a share to the outside on her Windows computer? Heck no. What's her alternative? Email. Can you name a service tha lets her upload a couple of gigs of non-specialized files that she could then share with her friends and family? No such service exists, unless you consider Gmail to be such a service.

      The only way you'll ever get people to use the proper protocol, meaning one that's designed for the purpose it's being used for, is to make that protocol ubiquitus, easy and cheap. As long as you make the proper way hard, even if it's for a good reason like security, people will find other ways to route their data, even if those ways are a horrible kludge.

      TW

    22. Re:30 GB?!?!?! 250K oughta be enough for anyone! by Hrodvitnir · · Score: 1

      That's pretty much a point for the "Why do you need 30GB?" crowd. I mean, if the only reason 30GB is needed is to hurt the company offering it...

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    23. Re:30 GB?!?!?! 250K oughta be enough for anyone! by slurpster · · Score: 1

      With regard to Gmail (google), I believe they use a properity storage system which compress data on their storage system. Not only does the same message not be saved twice for gmail customers, parts of message which are similar like attachments will not be stored twice. In reality if people used all their quota up, it doesn't actually use that much space on gmail systems.

    24. Re:30 GB?!?!?! 250K oughta be enough for anyone! by something_wicked_thi · · Score: 1

      Have you considered that many people are just using it as a spam drop (i.e. a throwaway account for things that require you to enter an email address)?

    25. Re:30 GB?!?!?! 250K oughta be enough for anyone! by rileyjt · · Score: 1

      Google's offering was enough to make me switch from Yahoo when it came out. And I had ditched Hotmail long ago due to the ridiculously small inbox which filled with spam every day. 30Gig isn't enough to make me switch though - I don't have capacity issues any more and am curious as to what kind of customers they will attract by competing on capacity. I wonder if they will support the "online harddrive" types that are currently filling up their Gmail boxes... and I wonder how profitable those types of customers actually are.

      Btw, it seems as if Hotmail and Yahoo have improved significantly since Google entered the market. Less spam, more capacity - I still use both on occassions since Hotmail is basically my spam box and still have a lot of stuff directed at Yahoo. Even if you don't use Google, you gotta love them for bringing a little competitiveness to the market.

    26. Re:30 GB?!?!?! 250K oughta be enough for anyone! by Pollardito · · Score: 1

      i'm not sure they'd be able to register a domain name for the more generic "f---load of mail"

    27. Re:30 GB?!?!?! 250K oughta be enough for anyone! by UberTod · · Score: 2, Informative

      Well...one successful way to fill up your multi-gig account on Gmail is to functionally use the tools people have written to use such a site to it's fullest potential.

      I get no kickback for this, and it was a /. post some time ago:

      http://www.viksoe.dk/code/gmail.htm

      It makes your gmail account a drive on your computer. Great for having access to your own personal sftp anytime you need it.

    28. Re:30 GB?!?!?! 250K oughta be enough for anyone! by Fragmented_Datagram · · Score: 1

      I can't fill up my 2 gigs on Gmail, nor my gig on Y! mail, why in the world would I need 30 gigs?

      Maybe you need to use the Google Filesystem then...

    29. Re:30 GB?!?!?! 250K oughta be enough for anyone! by PhotoBoy · · Score: 1

      That was my first thought, but when you check the sign up dates, these accounts start receiving mountains of spam about 3 hours after signing up.

      I wouldn't really have any problem with people signing up just for a spam drop account, particularly if they kept the junk filter on as that would automatically delete most of the spam after 7 days. Sadly what I think we're seeing though is some sort of mailicious behaviour.

    30. Re:30 GB?!?!?! 250K oughta be enough for anyone! by jacksonj04 · · Score: 1

      You and I may not, but others may feel the need to increase the size of their e-Penis. You know the world has gone downhill when people are getting e-penis enlargement spam through /.

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    31. Re:30 GB?!?!?! 250K oughta be enough for anyone! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yes, uploaded one time over your slow link, then quickly replicated to 1000's of hard disks (that's terabytes of your file now) without regard to whether anybody has seen it, is done with it, ever cared about it, etc.

    32. Re:30 GB?!?!?! 250K oughta be enough for anyone! by aengblom · · Score: 1

      I'd suspect its spammers who set up an accounts to make sure their latest e-mails made it out into the world.

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    33. Re:30 GB?!?!?! 250K oughta be enough for anyone! by Kent+Recal · · Score: 1

      Actually, even nntp is still a one2many deal. What you want for large files is many2many, it's called bittorrent.

    34. Re:30 GB?!?!?! 250K oughta be enough for anyone! by Riddlefox · · Score: 2, Informative

      Actually, there are a few, depending on the size of the files you want to send, and how persistant you want the storage to be. You Send It is one I use (1 gigabyte files, good for 1 week). PutFile is another one - smaller file sizes (I think 60 megs for the free service), but the videos stay there longer.

    35. Re:30 GB?!?!?! 250K oughta be enough for anyone! by Total_Wimp · · Score: 1

      The PutFile link was interesting, but I was amused to see that YouSendIt uses the email system which tends to support my point.

      TW

    36. Re:30 GB?!?!?! 250K oughta be enough for anyone! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      just for the record, he's making a joke, not being literal. Way to miss his joke completely!

    37. Re:30 GB?!?!?! 250K oughta be enough for anyone! by dinojemr · · Score: 1

      Difference usually refers to subtraction, not division.
      The difference between 1gb and 5mb is 1019mb, while the difference between 30gb and 1 gb is 29gb (29,696mb)

    38. Re:30 GB?!?!?! 250K oughta be enough for anyone! by Kadin2048 · · Score: 1

      It only uses email for the uploading part of the chain, I believe.

      So you upload your file to their server network over email -- which is fine, since there's nothing bad about email as long as you're only using it ONCE, as a point to point transfer -- but then the other people go to their server to download the file again, thereby saving storage space.

      I think the OP's comment about email being a very bad way to distribute files is not because of the network traffic, but because of the redundant stored information. If I distribute a 100MB file to 10 friends over email, it gets copied 10 times (once in each of their mailboxes). There's no "sharing" or caching of the stored information. Versus a system like PutFile (or any traditional method like FTP) which only keeps one copy of the file and lets a number of clients download it at will.

      I see his point, but I wonder with the dramatic cheapening (is that a word?) of storage space recently, if the storage redundancy is as much an issue as the amount of network traffic that these large file transfers take.

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    39. Re:30 GB?!?!?! 250K oughta be enough for anyone! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      why in the world would I need 30 gigs? Does the phrase "free porn in you inbox!" mean anything to you?

    40. Re:30 GB?!?!?! 250K oughta be enough for anyone! by Nutria · · Score: 1

      What you want for large files is many2many, it's called bittorrent.

      Why? It still makes people (at the ass end of the pipe) send out lots of data on a continual basis.

      If most nntp servers didn't have such tiny retention periods for binary file groups, it should be the much preferred way to distribute files

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    41. Re:30 GB?!?!?! 250K oughta be enough for anyone! by MikeFM · · Score: 1

      There are dozens of web-based services for sharing large files. The biggest problem with such services is that http uploads and downloads are pretty suck ass for files of any size. Not as bad as smtp but still pretty bad. Browsers really don't do a very good job at making sure that entire files get transfered with a minimal of fuss for the user.

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    42. Re:30 GB?!?!?! 250K oughta be enough for anyone! by MikeFM · · Score: 1

      Probably pretty close to what I use. I break messages down so attachments only get stored once for all users that have that attachment and the same for message bodies. The only data that is really replicated every time is the message headers. I also compress all plain-text message segments to save additional space.

      A lot of the data can be compressed that way and it's especially good for popular forwards and viral attachments (where you get 400 copies of the same virus in your inbox in an hour). It's to bad Thunderbird doesn't have such storage as an option.

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    43. Re:30 GB?!?!?! 250K oughta be enough for anyone! by seanvaandering · · Score: 1

      No wonder the internet is slow...

      No, its slow because he's your neighbour and your on cable.. ;)

    44. Re:30 GB?!?!?! 250K oughta be enough for anyone! by Riddlefox · · Score: 1
      I think the YouSendIt site asks for your e-mail because after you upload a file (via what means, I know not), the site e-mails your recipient a URL to the file you just uploaded. It also e-mails you the link to the file, so you can re-email the link to other friends. The recipient of the e-mails just clicks on the link and downloads it via HTTP.

      Unless I completely misunderstood you..

    45. Re:30 GB?!?!?! 250K oughta be enough for anyone! by Total_Wimp · · Score: 1

      Nope, you understood me, I just didn't understand the site. I guess what TW learned today was to look a little further before spouting off :-) This site actually looks pretty useful.

      TW

  4. Signup requires invite, like Google Mail by marcello_dl · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I am not sure i like that. I think a playful method like a web based slot machine that lets you win an invitation (ajax based not to hammer the servers) would be nicer. Sigh.

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    1. Re:Signup requires invite, like Google Mail by lowrydr310 · · Score: 1
      1. Create trendy 'new' mail service offering a ton of space 2. Make it "by invitation only" to generate interest 3. Sell invitations on eBay 4. PROFIT!

      Contrary to typical slashdot business plans, this one has a defined technique to generate money.

  5. phffff.. 30gig, that's amateur mang by porksoda · · Score: 5, Informative

    1 terabyte, right here.

    1. Re:phffff.. 30gig, that's amateur mang by Pleb'a.nz · · Score: 2, Informative

      Last time I signed up here, you couldn't send email outside of the hriders.com domain.

    2. Re:phffff.. 30gig, that's amateur mang by Narc · · Score: 2, Funny

      FTS.. We have been asked why we would do such a thing. The answer is simple to help people store large amounts of information in a safe and secure environment. Sure, yeah.. trust your data with a buncha bikers ;)

    3. Re:phffff.. 30gig, that's amateur mang by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Last time I signup there, I receive no word from them.

    4. Re:phffff.. 30gig, that's amateur mang by Blastercorps · · Score: 1

      1 TB of space would be cool, if only for the novelty. But....why do they need to know my rl address?

    5. Re:phffff.. 30gig, that's amateur mang by jbrw · · Score: 2, Insightful

      why do they need to know my rl address?

      why do they need to give you 1tb of space?

    6. Re:phffff.. 30gig, that's amateur mang by Blastercorps · · Score: 1

      So they can throw ads at me. I'm ok with that (as long as it's not TOO intrusive) for 1TB. But home mailing address? Nuh uh.

    7. Re:phffff.. 30gig, that's amateur mang by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      weird, you don't live at 123 Main Street Mytown USA 01235?

      And all this time I thought every one did.

    8. Re:phffff.. 30gig, that's amateur mang by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, you know I am Sven Jorgensen living at 123 123rd st in Somewhere, InsertCountry Who are you?

    9. Re:phffff.. 30gig, that's amateur mang by gid13 · · Score: 1

      Signed up for an account, but there doesn't appear to be any e-mail access. Shrug.

  6. TOS by Lussarn · · Score: 3, Interesting

    word of caution with regards to their extremely short terms of service and privacy policy, calling them "shady".

    It should be a good thing to not have a long lawyerlike TOS. Terms of service is a way for companies to bypass the laws and shouldn't be needed at all. Period.

    1. Re:TOS by XaXXon · · Score: 4, Informative

      I just read their terms of service. It's almost all about cookies. They basically say how they use their cookies, that they aren't responsible for the contents of the sites their ads link to, and that you may get cookies from their ad provider.

      While not being a service I would want to use, they don't seem to be "shady" in that they are hiding anything, just that they do things you wish they wouldn't, but they're honest about it.

      This is, of course, assuming their ToS isn't an outright lie.

    2. Re:TOS by aussie_a · · Score: 2, Informative

      I agree, they're extremely forward with what they do and don't do (and one thing they claim they don't do is sell out your information). If the TOS and Privacy Policy is the only reason people believe they're shady, then I disagree completely. Having said that, reading the comments it appears that some people are wary because 30gigs.com isn't a name they know, so they're wary if they'll be trustworthy or not.

    3. Re:TOS by nacturation · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I agree, they're extremely forward with what they do and don't do (and one thing they claim they don't do is sell out your information). If the TOS and Privacy Policy is the only reason people believe they're shady, then I disagree completely.

      Extremely forward isn't a phrase I would use. Sure, they tell you all about cookies... but what about your actual privacy? Nobody these days cares about cookies anymore. How about the contents of the email I send and receive? Oh... nothing at all to say about that. How about any personally identifying information? Suspiciously absent from their privacy policy. What if I'm under the age of 13? Who cares! Their privacy policy should state how they are protecting my privacy, not how I'm going to get bombarded by cookies from all manners of ad companies they've signed up with.

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  7. What's a malibox? by olalla · · Score: 0, Redundant

    All Accounts Feature: 30 GigaByte malibox

    1. Re:What's a malibox? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      It's a cocktail. Mixture of Malibu and Oxtail soup.

    2. Re:What's a malibox? by mrselfdestrukt · · Score: 1, Funny

      Hhhhmmmmmm. Malibox ...
      Salty Coconut goodness.

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  8. Missing the point by aussie_a · · Score: 4, Insightful

    To anyone that thinks this is a serious contender in the Webmail wars, you're missing the point. I doubt very many people use their entire storage, or even come close. It's just used as a marketing point. The reason that any particular mail storage will beat the others is because of it's features. Gmail is popular (well, for starters because it's google and at the moment google is sexy among some geek circles) because of it's interface. Yahoo recently realised this and brought out a new interface of it's own (well, I say new. As in new for a webmail provider. From the articles it's just an Outlook Express clone, although it may be quite useful, I don't know. Like google, Yahoo has decided to not open it's new and improved webmail service to everyone, at least last i heard anyway).

    Having said that, I doubt anyone is going to win the Webmail wars. All that will happen is they'll fight amongst each other to get more of a customer share by adding more features. Which is great for us. But 30gigs isn't going to be a contender anytime soon (if ever).

    I remember when everyone used hotmail, back when it used to be usable. Then Microsoft screwed over its users with more and more intrusive ads, shitty interface and more. I'm just waiting for Microsofts response to Yahoo and Google's improved webmail interface.

    1. Re:Missing the point by MikeFM · · Score: 1

      I'd be impressed if Microsoft responded with a usable interface for any of their products. Yeh, Office has a brilliant interface. Makes me want to kill myself. I think Yahoo must be out of their mind if they're copying Outlook. That's a horrible mail program.

      Google has the right idea. Streamline and make the UI more responsive. Ease of use over feature bloat.

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    2. Re:Missing the point by aussie_a · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Yeh, Office has a brilliant interface. Makes me want to kill myself.

      It's good enough for OSS to copy (Open Office).

      Outlook. That's a horrible mail program.

      Once again, good enough for OSS to copy (Thunderbird).

    3. Re:Missing the point by MikeFM · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Being copied doesn't mean something is good. It just means the copier has no better ideas of their own or have the mistaken believe that it's more important to copy a bad design to ease user's switching than it is to create a design that is actually good.

      OpenOffice's UI is almost as horrible as Office itself. Thunderbird is clunky for managing large numbers of emails but is nowhere near the mess that Outlook is (and really doesn't look much like it.. if you're actually familiar with both).

      Although you didn't mention it I'll take this time to say I hate how KDE and Gnome both copy way to much from Windows and OS X. They'll never get a good user-interface that way. Windows is just a mess that seems to have been made by a drunker marketing department. OS X is made to impress with eye candy and to be easy for newbies. Neither is designed to make experienced users more productive. Because of copying KDE and Gnome are really no more easy to use or productive than Windows and OS X. :(

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    4. Re:Missing the point by LLuthor · · Score: 1

      MS has already been working on a new version of Hotmail.
      There is a cool video about it on MSDN channel 9.

      As far as I can tell, the interface is pretty good... but it is not yet publicly available.

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    5. Re:Missing the point by aussie_a · · Score: 0, Troll

      Wait, you've just criticized Windows, Gnome, KDE and OS X. Just what the fuck DO you use?

    6. Re:Missing the point by MikeFM · · Score: 1

      I use everything. Which is why I think I'm qualified to abuse the shortcomings in all of them. In general I think software sucks. To be fair I tear my own works apart the most. I hate ugly, buggy, inflexible, hard to use software.

      I've been playing with a desktop enviroment of my own creation that is developed in Gecko and offers task-based management of programs and documents. Even that I'm constantly picking at but so far it seems better than Windows, Gnome, KDE, OS X, or any other desktop I've tried over the years. I'm trying to find time to convert it to use Gnome instead of Gecko just so it'll work with non-web-based apps better. We shall see. To bad I can't afford to hire help and then throw it out as a product for everyone to abuse and curse at.. work out those flaws.

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    7. Re:Missing the point by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      MS are already working on an improved Hotmail interface, it's codenamed Kahuna and looks pretty much like Outlook.

    8. Re:Missing the point by xtracto · · Score: 1

      ttyO ru13z! ...

      GUIs are for sissies!

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    9. Re:Missing the point by aussie_a · · Score: 2, Funny

      Pfft. They're just copying Yahoo.

    10. Re:Missing the point by Cl1mh4224rd · · Score: 1
      I remember when everyone used hotmail, back when it used to be usable. Then Microsoft screwed over its users with more and more intrusive ads, shitty interface and more.
      Not to defend Microsoft, but would that be the same Hotmail that took days to deliver an e-mail to even another Hotmail account? Yeah, those were the days...
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  9. Huge Uses? by Famatra · · Score: 4, Interesting

    With a box that big you could, if you developed a network, work out an eMail p2p system.

    Simply upload the stuff you want to trade and forward it to people who need it. How do you know who would want the stuff you've uploaded? You'd need to develop a network where your node advertises what it has available, and autoforwards the file when someone requests it.

    After the initial uploading there is really no more bandwidth costs for you as you can forward the files for free - the email providers' servers handles the load.

    1. Re:Huge Uses? by likewowandstuff · · Score: 1

      And maybe if a "Burn files to CD/DVD/Blu-Ray" service were tacked on for a nominal fee...

    2. Re:Huge Uses? by Hellasboy · · Score: 1

      an eMail p2p system?

      haha, that brings me back to ~1995 on AOL. Warez chat rooms with bots that emailed out warez to users in a fashion similar to IRC. That's to say, the mass mailer (aol term, haha) would post what they have in the chat room and the user would request the file and it was forwarded to them.

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    3. Re:Huge Uses? by MikeFM · · Score: 1

      Why? Isn't it easier to just use a normal website that lets users post files and share links to them?

      I've got such a site being redesigned from the ground up because unfortunately the bandwidth usage is huge. We're talking 150GB+ (after 3 weeks uptime.. never advertising) a day and growing quickly. I've got that problem solved but it's a serious expense if you haven't got a clever solution. I get 1500GB/mo of bandwidth with my server and I was still running out part way through the month before I found this fix.

      Bit Torrent would be good but browsers don't have it built-in yet and users don't like using sites that require them to add other software to their computers. It's still a little flakey too IMO. Not really designed for a single server to offer millions of files to tens of thousands of users.

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    4. Re:Huge Uses? by NerdJock · · Score: 1

      Actually Opera has BT integrated into their latest version, but it is not integrated into a mail client. I think it would an interesting idea for people that send out large mail to many people. If you just send to one or a few people, it is not worth using a P2P since it would be easier just to send it to the right people to begin with. If you meet the first criteria, you still have problems. First people expect a fairly fast response to opening a mail and while P2P is good at many things, completing a download on order (quality of service) is not one of those. The second problem is why users would want to help out. Most of the senders that meet the criteria are corporations that send "deal of the weeks" or newsletters and people do not tend to go out of their way to help those. That leaves small interest groups and communities, such as your favorite H4XX0R site and /.. And for those groups to join together to decide on a cohesive standard is a bit of a stretch.

    5. Re:Huge Uses? by dirtsurfer · · Score: 1

      Uh yeah I remember doing exactly that on AOL like 6 or 7 years ago.

    6. Re:Huge Uses? by MikeFM · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Firefox has a BT extension as well that may be included in future versions of Firefox and Thunderbird. I agree that such use could be interesting although I still think BT is flawed as distribution tool for heavy automated use at this time. As you say speed and reliability is also a problem with BT for small distributions. RSS/BT could do a lot to replace mass transmission of binaries from services such as Yahoo and Google Groups.

      I've cheated and developed my own method that is similar to BT, doesn't require any browser add-ons or extra software installed, and fixes the speed and reliability problems as well as making it easier to use in situations where you need to expose many files from an automated system. It also makes uploading files extremely easy. Once I reopen my website with this new feature I am thinking of opensourcing the server and client code for it and licensing it off for those who don't want to agree to the GPL's restrictions.

      My site offers file sharing and discussion so I guess it might seem to attract some of that crowd you mention although I'm more interested in artists and other content creators looking for a new means of sharing their work. So far mostly it's been used by people trading amatuer porn. Not exactly what I was aiming for but porn is often at the bleeding (or just dripping with some bodily fluid?) edge of technology.

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    7. Re:Huge Uses? by 20th+Century+Boy · · Score: 1

      Actually there are certain circles that already do something similar but decidedly more low tech: they sign up for large email accounts and store file attachments in the "drafts" section. On the mailing list you have the account login info and password, then you simply login to the account full of attachments and send off an email to yourself to receive the file. You'd think that you could just download the attachment from the draft box without actually having to email it to yourself but it turns out that there's a bit of a bandwidth limit to this at least on the accounts I was familiar with, so it was easier to just have everyone email it off to themselves. Obvious problems with this method are folks deleting the drafts and changing the account password, so it wouldn't work on an large scale, though the mailing list I was familiar with had several hundred members. Keep in mind though that the files being passed around were normally no larger than 40MB, so an IRC channel might have been less hassle, though more costly to maintain.

    8. Re:Huge Uses? by rimskij · · Score: 1

      Umm, this is being done already. It obviously sucks, but some people find it usable. Tried that when writing an article on p2p weird stuff. http://www.peer2mail.com/

  10. Free Web Space by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ok, so we have free web mail space coming out the wazoo, but what I would like is lots of free web space. Gimme gimme.

    1. Re:Free Web Space by MikeFM · · Score: 1

      So email me, if your project is interesting to me I'll give you free web space on my super high-speed connected server. ;)

      I'm working to make a free website interface but I want it to be worlds better than Geocities and similar sites so it'll be a while before it's ready. In the meantime I have space available for the asking.

      gmail.com!mogmios

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    2. Re:Free Web Space by gooberguy25 · · Score: 1

      i would be eternally gratefull to anyone that can send a invite towards, gagansingh89@gmail.com

  11. This calls for creative use of email by charlesesl · · Score: 0

    So has anyone figured out a way to convert porn to email?

    1. Re:This calls for creative use of email by raoul666 · · Score: 1

      You know, I heard this rumour the other day...careful who you repeat it to, I wouldn't want to get anybody in trouble...but I heard...now you must keep this under your hat...that there's this magical thing called...listen closely now...an attachment. Apparently it lets you send, like, files and stuff. Over email. But shhhhh. I think it's in beta.

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  12. Who cares? by Telvin_3d · · Score: 3, Insightful

    See, if you could use it as intentional FTP space or some such, there might be a use, but really, a 30 GB e-mail service is no differnt than a 250 MB e-mail service for 99.9% of people out there, including me. Most mail systems limit attachment size somewhere around the 5 MB mark, so it is not like you can either expect or send large files to use that space. Nice advertising gimic, but no real use.

  13. totally shady by XenonDif · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The privacy policy doesn't state that they won't read your data or not give it out to other people. I certainly wouldn't store my tax return on this server.

    1. Re:totally shady by Nasarius · · Score: 4, Insightful
      The privacy policy doesn't state that they won't read your data or not give it out to other people. I certainly wouldn't store my tax return on this server.

      On the other hand, your data is worthless to them if you encrypt it first. Of course, I wouldn't really trust these people to keep backups, not go bankrupt, etc.

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    2. Re:totally shady by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      The privacy policy doesn't state that they won't demand my first born!! That proves they are up to something..

    3. Re:totally shady by MikeFM · · Score: 2, Interesting

      As a web developer I can say that I would never promise not to read any data stored on my machines. It just isn't possible to say that. There is always the chance it could come up in some sort of log or be required for some sort of technical or legal reason. It'd be unwise to make such a promise knowing that you probably can't live up to it.

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    4. Re:totally shady by mustafap · · Score: 2, Funny

      >I certainly wouldn't store my tax return on this server.

      I dont think it's your tax return you need to worry about. Indeed quite the oppostite; It's the stuff that didn't go on the tax return :o)

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    5. Re:totally shady by corvair2k1 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You should hold an even tighter requirement than that. If there's something you don't want someone to read something, you shouldn't send it via email... This is not a secure medium at all. Things happen in plaintext.

      This rule holds for encryption: If you don't want people reading even the encrypted text, email is the wrong way to do things.

    6. Re:totally shady by MikeFM · · Score: 1

      That's fine by me. Tens of thousands of other users are more than willing to do so. Expecting a developer to promise something that isn't legally smart or technically possible is unreasonable.

      If you write something down you have to expect that somebody somewhere could accidently see it. Do you really think that when your PC sends a crash report to Microsoft, Apple, or whomever that there is no chance of some of your files being sent with it? A) That data could be causing the crash and therefore could be sent. B) That data could possibly be infered by data that was sent. C) If something is broken then all promises as to safeguards become moot.

      Now a promise not to disclose or use, other than for technical reasons, any of your data they happen to see might be possible. I'd have to think about it and probably consult a lawyer to see.

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    7. Re:totally shady by anthony_dipierro · · Score: 1

      Do you really think that when your PC sends a crash report to Microsoft, Apple, or whomever that there is no chance of some of your files being sent with it?

      Does anyone with technical knowhow ever choose to send a crash report to one of those companies? I guess if you're a high-end user on a contract with them, but otherwise it's a pretty crazy thing to do.

    8. Re:totally shady by r3m0t · · Score: 1

      It's a little difficult to encrypt every important outgoing mail but allowing the recipient to read it. Not everybody has PGP.

      It's rather more difficult to encrypt every *incoming* mail on a webmail service.

    9. Re:totally shady by Hachey · · Score: 1

      Who would want to go through 30 gigs of spam?


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    10. Re:totally shady by MikeFM · · Score: 1

      If you don't send crash reports then don't bitch that your software crashes. Companies and opensource projects use this information to track severity of bugs and figure out how to fix these bugs.

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    11. Re:totally shady by anthony_dipierro · · Score: 1

      If you don't send crash reports then don't bitch that your software crashes.

      I don't bitch that my software crashes.

      Companies and opensource projects use this information to track severity of bugs and figure out how to fix these bugs.

      If a bug bothers me enough I'll diagnose it, describe a way to reproduce it, and submit a bug report. I'm not sending my personal information to some company that I don't even have a written contractual agreement with.

    12. Re:totally shady by MikeFM · · Score: 1

      What difference does it make? If they have software on your system they could, if they wanted, just take that information from you without you even knowing it. You trust them enough to run their software but not enough to submit a bug report?

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    13. Re:totally shady by anthony_dipierro · · Score: 1

      If they have software on your system they could, if they wanted, just take that information from you without you even knowing it.

      Unless they happen to be an application which continuously uses the internet, they'd have trouble doing this without getting caught by my firewall. And even if they could sneak it past me, it's doubtful that they'd be able to sneak it into the source code in the first place. I use primarily open source software.

      You trust them enough to run their software but not enough to submit a bug report?

      Pretty much, yes. It's one thing for an employee (or in the case of much of my software, a volunteer) to misuse a core dump. It's another thing altogether for a large group of individuals to intentionally conspire to build a backdoor into software, and to do so without getting caught. Is it possible? Yes, so I try not to keep anything too sensitive on my computer in the first place. But I will try to avoid handing out sensitive personal information to people without a need to know it as much as possible.

  14. 30 webdrive? by ZeroExistenZ · · Score: 4, Informative

    If there would be the ability to have a "webdrive" like there's available for google, this might be interesting.

    Otherwise, to keep 30G of chainletters, spam, and the occasional email seems like a waste of space. In the line of google's history, they'd come out with 50G mailboxes in no time to stay current and on top. ;)

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    1. Re:30 webdrive? by norz · · Score: 1

      Actually the about page says " We will be offering a section for personal file storage (up to 30 gigs)". But they don't indicate what interface it will be: web-based? ftp? mapped drive? all of them?

  15. Re:No POP access by Creepy+Crawler · · Score: 1

    Google mail does. Both ways too, unlike how yahoo only legs you get, not send.

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  16. One Word: Pron. by Famatra · · Score: 5, Funny

    "I can't fill up my 2 gigs on Gmail, nor my gig on Y! mail, why in the world would I need 30 gigs?"

    If you belong to a lot of yahoo and google groups, and the groups you belong to like to send a lot of attachments (porno) you can fill up 2 gigs in a couple of days.

    Not that I know from experience or anything...

    1. Re:One Word: Pron. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      hmm, google groups doesn't do attachments though....

    2. Re:One Word: Pron. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The one's I've been in do (you actually have to subscribe to a 'google' group, not just a news group, even though google groups and yahoo groups come up with the same search results).

      Not only do google groups have attachments, they archive them - something yahoo groups does not do.

      Reply if you are having trouble, I'll post a group I belong to so you can subscribe and see for your self.

    3. Re:One Word: Pron. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Please, tell. I'd like to try. :-)

    4. Re:One Word: Pron. by ahaning · · Score: 4, Funny

      So that we may all avoid said groups, please post some examples of the worst offenders. Thanks.

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    5. Re:One Word: Pron. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not quite a group...more of a cult:
      Stileproject

    6. Re:One Word: Pron. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That is my problem :). I have had to delete plenty of mail from my gmail account; I got tired of it a week ago and figured out that I could make more gmail accounts(which I already knew) and set them all to forward to one account and set up the master account to be able to send mail under all aliases. Anyways, I have 10 gig of storage now, and I could always set up more accounts.

  17. I tried it, here's my review by boingyzain · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I tried out this thing yesterday for a bit.

    Here's the problems:

    1) The domain name sucks. Who wants to be john@30gigs.com

    2) The interface sucks. Hard. It's about as plain as it can get (it looks like they're just using Squirrelmail with their own stylesheet).

    3) Their privacy policy is vague on what kind of information they share

    4) There doesn't seem to be any reputable parent company behind it meaning it's chances of survival are questionable.

    Overall rating: THUMBS DOWN.

    Besides, size isn't everything!

    - Do anyone know how much spam you get with this service?
    - How does it handle attachements and their sizes?
    - How fast does mail travel through their servers?
    - How high uptime do their servers have?
    - Customizable mail filters to manage mail?
    - Multiple labels per mail, set by filters?
    - POP3 forwarding/servers?
    - Address books?
    - Antivirus checks?
    - Do they backup?

    I mean, if you have 1 GB+, why in the world would you want more?
    My over-a-year-old Gmail account use 16 MB now. 0.016 GB. It can fit about 150x more mail. Now, how many years is that?

    To me, it's just not a valid selling argument anymore.

    1. Re:I tried it, here's my review by Agilo · · Score: 0, Redundant

      "I mean, if you have 1 GB+, why in the world would you want more?"
      You sound just like Bill Gates. :-)

      But I do agree on your points, though.
      Shame it got voted "-1".

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    2. Re:I tried it, here's my review by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I hate to break it to you, but 16MB is *not* 0.016GB. No.

    3. Re:I tried it, here's my review by feamsr00 · · Score: 1

      Can't help you out with much more then the uptime http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=30gigs.co m [netcraft.com] which, interesting enough, actually hasn't been plotted yet, but that should change in a few days.

    4. Re:I tried it, here's my review by feamsr00 · · Score: 1
    5. Re:I tried it, here's my review by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      "3) Their privacy policy is vague on what kind of information they share"

      Reminds me of a certain company from Mountain View.

      "- Do anyone know how much spam you get with this service?
      - How does it handle attachements and their sizes?
      - How fast does mail travel through their servers?
      - How high uptime do their servers have?
      - Customizable mail filters to manage mail?
      - Multiple labels per mail, set by filters?
      - POP3 forwarding/servers?
      - Address books?
      - Antivirus checks?
      - Do they backup?"

      You mean you knew all this when you signed up for gmail?
      How can you type with google's dick in your hands?

    6. Re:I tried it, here's my review by Tyrell+Hawthorne · · Score: 1

      Multiple labels per mail, set by filters?

      And here it goes once again. Some company competes with a Google product, and then a Slashdotter asks if the competitor's product has feature X, which is a feature pioneered by Google. And so often it's not something you absolutely need. Sure, Gmail's labels are nice, but they're not something you that can't be lived without. That is how the fanboys make it sound tough. If you see labels that work like Gmail's as a basic requirement of an email system, you'll be hard pressed to find another than Gmail.

    7. Re:I tried it, here's my review by deesine · · Score: 1

      If it ain't broke, then don't fix it!

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    8. Re:I tried it, here's my review by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Gmail didn't invent labels. Please use Opera M2, which predates Gmail but which shares the same "make a database, fill it with mail, and query the hell out of it" mentality. It even has labels!

    9. Re:I tried it, here's my review by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


      Rather in the hands than in the mouth, which is where you appear to be keeping good ol'Billy Gates' banana.

      "A dick in the hands is worth two in the mouth..."

    10. Re:I tried it, here's my review by catprog · · Score: 1

      Maybee that it what they were saying

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    11. Re:I tried it, here's my review by Myko · · Score: 1
      I mean, if you have 1 GB+, why in the world would you want more?

      Ask any podcaster that gets audio comments that question and they'll tell you how many times a week they have to clear their GMail account to be able to make room for the hundreds of 10-20 meg audio files they get.

    12. Re:I tried it, here's my review by Inigo+Montoya · · Score: 1

      Wow. what a total waste of net bandwidth. I don't listen to podcasts, but I expected it would be hosted on a server, not emailed to your account. I mean "pod-cast" derives from "broadcast" which is not point-to-point. (ok, I know hosting it on a server using today's technology is still not true broadcast and is point-to-point still, but at least it's upon the listener to actively go get it, and it's not just shot into your email box)

      I can see it now, hundreds of megabytes of podcasts being emailed around the net only to be deleted because they are not interesting now or the receiver is not interested anymore.

    13. Re:I tried it, here's my review by Myko · · Score: 1

      Um, that's not what I said, nor how it works.

      Podcasts are hosted on servers owned by the podcaster. I said that podcasters recieve audio comments from their listeners. They don't allow them unfettered upload access to their own server to recieve them. They distribute their show off their own server and recieve comments from listeners via email - quit often in audio format to a Gmail address.

    14. Re:I tried it, here's my review by Inigo+Montoya · · Score: 1
      Yep, my bad for not reading clearly .. I re-read your post, and you said
      Ask any podcaster that gets audio comments...
      thanks for clearing it up with me (and being gracious about it!) and confirming that it works (podcasting) as I expected it would.

      Cheers!

  18. porn on my web mail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    according to the privacy policy : "Some of the links on 30Gigs.com are a cobranded arrangement where the control lies completely with the other party. 30Gigs.com is not responsible for the privacy practices or the content of these web sites. 30Gigs.com is only responsible for the content which lies on the root domain" .... so is theorically possible that some porn "companies" will put this kind of "ads" while I check my email .... although I think some people would be very happy with this ...

  19. IMAP by Thijs+van+As · · Score: 1

    I'd like it if they supported IMAP... Not even POP3. Now Gmail is a better choice for me.

  20. Yeah, because 1 GB isn't enough! by Jugalator · · Score: 1

    Seriously, I have used my Gmail account for at least a year, and it uses about 16 MB. Let's say I was a quite heavy mail user and used 40 MB per year... That's 0.04 GB, or 62 years to fill 2.5 GB.

    When mail space pass about 1 GB, it's simply not an issue for me anymore. We'll probably use mail in a totally different way than now in 30 years anyway. Maybe we won't even use much e-mail then. It's eons in computer technology.

    What matters more to me are the other features. Does this service provide free POP3 server access to use your mail client of choice in addition to the webmail? Uptime? Mail server latencies/delays? Attachement sizes? Mail filter customizability? You know... Important stuff!

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    1. Re:Yeah, because 1 GB isn't enough! by mlewan · · Score: 1
      You are right in point, but your calculation doesn't work.

      It is true that 30G currently is ridiculous.

      But a lot of people send big attachments to each other - important statistical data, source code for large programs and of course funny films with monkeys.

      If you just send text files, your estimations of 16M a year may work, but a large portion of us use much, much more than that.

    2. Re:Yeah, because 1 GB isn't enough! by Attrition_cp · · Score: 1

      30 gig is rather crazy. But just to chime in with my gmail stats..

      You are currently using 616 MB (23%) of your 2650 MB.
      I currently have 1793 emails (no, no porn sorry), and just eyeing it, i'd say 5% have attachments. So while 2.xGB from gmail may seem far away, when the random files people send each other get larger, email will have to adjust.. some places will just be in better shape when it does. and 30gig.com probably won't exist.

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    3. Re:Yeah, because 1 GB isn't enough! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lets say 5 years from now you can easily use 30 gigs with e-mail, but at that point Gmail offers 2TB+... you would look silly with an account @30gigs.com.

    4. Re:Yeah, because 1 GB isn't enough! by Diag · · Score: 1

      But a lot of people send big attachments to each other - important statistical data, source code for large programs and of course funny films with monkeys.

      Anyone who's using these free email services to send "important" data around such as source or statistcal data is surely not serious.

      Aside from that, I imagine (but don't know) that they are using some kind of content management storage system at the back end with hashing on the attachments, so that they only have to store one copy of "funny film with monkeys.wmv" rather than 20,000.

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    5. Re:Yeah, because 1 GB isn't enough! by mlewan · · Score: 1
      Anyone who's using these free email services to send "important" data around such as source or statistcal data is surely not serious.

      If you limit your customerbase to serious people, you won't go far.

      Aside from that, I imagine (but don't know) that they are using some kind of content management storage system at the back end with hashing on the attachments, so that they only have to store one copy of "funny film with monkeys.wmv" rather than 20,000.

      Even if they were using some clever matching algorithm to identify identical big monkey files, the user would not benefit of this directly. If you are allowed 100 M, and you have ten 9M files with monkeys, the provider won't tell you that it doesn't matter as they already have the files elsewhere. You're quota goes down with 90M.

    6. Re:Yeah, because 1 GB isn't enough! by Diag · · Score: 1

      If you limit your customerbase to serious people, you won't go far.

      Well, I've done OK so far. No company I have worked with in my 20 years in IT would every consider using gmail, or whatever freebie service this thread was about, for anything "serious".

      Even if they were using some clever matching algorithm to identify identical big monkey files, the user would not benefit of this directly.

      The clever algorithms are already in use in several commercial products.

      But aside from that, I think you missed my point. Most email data is attachments, and most of that is duplicated many many times. If you can manage all that at the back end with single-instance storage, compression, smart software, and cheap disk, you can tell the user whatever you want in regards to how much space they have available to them. Although, you still do need limits to stop someone storing 50GB of crap on your server. So the "gradually increasing 2GB limit" on gmail is a good controlling mechanism, that coincidentally also works well as a marketing gimmick, making them look very generous :)

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    7. Re:Yeah, because 1 GB isn't enough! by mlewan · · Score: 1
      No company I have worked with in my 20 years in IT would every consider using gmail, or whatever freebie service this thread was about, for anything "serious".

      You never encountered companies with about 10 or less employees who use Hotmail as mail system? You never encountered any company at all using MS Messenger or AIM?

      But aside from that, I think you missed my point.

      I'm not sure I missed your point. Anyhow, apart from that I agree with every single word you wrote in that last paragraph.

  21. No Thank you by TarrySingh · · Score: 1

    That's all I can say. I'm sticking with gmail.

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  22. Invitation Only? by KrisCowboy · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Looks like it's Beta still and members only by invitation. Anyone to help me out?

  23. 1 TeraByte FREE WEBMAIL by linumax · · Score: 5, Funny

    Hey folks!
    I'm planning to unveil my ONE Terabyte Free webmail service by the next couple of weeks and all people on slashdot will receive invitations ASAP.

    PS: Anybody got old HDD?! wish to get rid of em? Don't hesitate to contact me

    1. Re:1 TeraByte FREE WEBMAIL by megrims · · Score: 1

      If that's a joke, it was very poorly implemented.

    2. Re:1 TeraByte FREE WEBMAIL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just think of all the 8gb drives lying around, from people who changed their xbox hd.

    3. Re:1 TeraByte FREE WEBMAIL by loraksus · · Score: 1

      Too late...
      Seriously.

      Linky

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    4. Re:1 TeraByte FREE WEBMAIL by JourneymanMereel · · Score: 1

      I think I've got an old 20gig drive w/bad sectors setting around here somewhere...

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    5. Re:1 TeraByte FREE WEBMAIL by crossconnects · · Score: 1

      i have an old 100M drive around here somewhere.

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    6. Re:1 TeraByte FREE WEBMAIL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have a LOUD 10Gb drive somewhere. It is so loud you wouldn't want to be in the same room as it for long. And thet's when its idling!

    7. Re:1 TeraByte FREE WEBMAIL by Fugozma · · Score: 1

      I've got a 30gb hard drive that sounds like it has garbage rolling around in it. For some reason, it won't boot up.

      I took a 250mb hard drive apart and used the shiny platter to scare birds away from my tomato plants this summer. No pecks this year.

      Let me know if you want either one of these hard drives for free plus a small shipping and handling fee.

  24. Space needed for personal mail by dyfet · · Score: 1
    Perhaps if voice or video mail became very commonplace to exchange through internet email, even 30gigs might begin to seem small, though people would expect to stream it then if its being held on a remote site. Or, finally, an email service with enough space to hold the all the world's spam in one mailbox!

    1. Re:Space needed for personal mail by NerdJock · · Score: 1

      You are right that an increase in video messages would increase the space requirements drastically. But, I don't think we need to worry. Google has shown that they will respond to increasing space needs fairly fast. I have no doubt that we will get larger storage spaces to accommodate any video messages sent, perhaps through google talk?

  25. The Internet is your hardrive (tm) by CmdrPuto · · Score: 1

    For just few months we have massive improvement of internet bandwidth and storage.

    So it's a matter of time that a hardware will arrive that OS and applications will use that free Giga spaces. The good thing about it is your data and OS preference will be centralized. Weather you use internet cafe, pc in the office or school they are still there.

    1. Re:The Internet is your hardrive (tm) by dagr8tim · · Score: 1
      For just few months we have massive improvement of internet bandwidth and storage.

      So it's a matter of time that a hardware will arrive that OS and applications will use that free Giga spaces. The good thing about it is your data and OS preference will be centralized. Weather you use internet cafe, pc in the office or school they are still there.


      Why, when I can carry SLAX around on a thumb drive and have that now.

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    2. Re:The Internet is your hardrive (tm) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Since when does the weather use an internet cafe?

  26. Soon it will be too small by pdx_joe · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I was talking to a friend the other day and we were laughing about our old systems. I remember having a conversation where we said "What on earth would you do with a 1GHz processor?" or "I got this new 1GB HDD and it should last me a couple years at least!" 30GB email boxes seem rediculous now but don't discount them. It's hard to imagine now but someday in the not too far future we will be laughing about how we somehow managed to get by with our 500MB hotmail account or our tiny 2GB GMail accounts!

  27. Can't miss moneymaking opportunity! by Anonymous+Squonk · · Score: 5, Funny

    The domain 700petabytes.com is still available!

    1. Re:Can't miss moneymaking opportunity! by doublem · · Score: 1

      Not for long...

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  28. Privacy Policy by npfscayle · · Score: 0, Redundant

    30Gigs.com has created this privacy statement in order to demonstrate our firm commitment to privacy. The following discloses our information gathering and dissemination practices for this website: 30Gigs.com. 30Gigs.com uses cookies to make sure you don't see the same ad repeatedly. This site contains links to other sites. 30Gigs.com is not responsible for the privacy practices or the content of these web sites. 30Gigs.com also uses cookies to keep you from having to login a second time. Some of the links on 30Gigs.com are a cobranded arrangement where the control lies completely with the other party. 30Gigs.com is not responsible for the privacy practices or the content of these web sites. 30Gigs.com is only responsible for the content which lies on the root domain ( 30Gigs.com ) We use outside ad companies to display ads on our site. These ads may contain cookies. While we use cookies in other parts of our web site, cookies received with banner ads are collected by our ad company, and we do not have access to this information.

  29. Familiar by FlipSideXp · · Score: 0

    Things are looking similar to the way the net was in the late 90s. We have seen the rise of some services that have no way of recovering the initial investment, let alone generate profit in the future. All the heat might be less, the build up is still very apparant and it will only be a matter of time until we witness another bubble burst.

  30. Why? by NidStyles · · Score: 0

    I have multiple Yahoo and Gmail accounts both of which have more space than I'll probably ever use. I mean I could sit here and send myself invites if I need more space, that's how ridiculous having that much space is. I only wish when using my gmail drive setup I could actually send more than 10Mb at a time, that's a pain in the ass to have to break down files that small.

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  31. The home page is a mess by tricheco · · Score: 2, Interesting

    30gigs.com page is kind of a mess. Nice.

  32. SMTP is not a file transfer protocol! by NerdJock · · Score: 2, Informative
    I understand that some people need to transfer a lot of data between people and groups, but SMTP is not a file transfer protocol. That should be handled by another protocol, such as File Transfer Protocol or a P2P of your choice or perhaps a repository.

    If you transfer that much data you should think about designing a small interface to handle it, to include shortcuts for the functions you use. After all, it has to be a bit cumbersome to work with that much data through a mail client.

    1. Re:SMTP is not a file transfer protocol! by MikeFM · · Score: 1

      It may not be but that is how millions of people and companies including Yahoo and Google use it. SMTP is a crappy protocol in general and should be abandoned.

      Actually I've got extensive programs I've written for managing huge volumes of mail and other data I collect. Labeling, sort, browsing, and searching data are things that interest me and which I've spent a lot of years working out good solutions for. I keep trying to refactor my programs into something that retains it's power but is easy enough for normal people. If only I had the time and money to work on such things I'm sure I could get some software out that probably rivals the best data mining tools out there.

      As it is I'm currently building a web-based tool (aka a website) for managing information and files that I hope will be pretty helpful. To start with I'm limiting it to media files (video, audio, and images), URLs, and discussion forums but I'd like to expand it to cover other areas such as email and documents eventually if I get the funding I'm looking for. The goal is to hit a niche market that does a lot of the same things as Flickr, Delicious, Google Images, Yahoo/Google Groups, Slashdot, and RapidShare. We shall see if it works out. Managing terabytes of data on a limited budget is always tricky.

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    2. Re:SMTP is not a file transfer protocol! by generic-man · · Score: 4, Funny

      So what? HTTP is a protocol meant to toss hypertext around, and look at all the people carelessly using it to upload files, do their e-mail, and even use so-called "web applications." For shame. I even hear that some people are transmitting XML by HTTP -- the horror!

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    3. Re:SMTP is not a file transfer protocol! by AtomicJake · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You are right: SMTP is the wrong protocol to send huge attachments. However, people are using it. And worse, business people (e.g. marketing guys) depend on its ability to send large files (e.g. Powerpoint presentations, large PDFs, etc.).

      There are basically two solutions for this problem: Either restrict your users to send only mails with a limited size, or to install an intelligent SMTP server (e.g. Mailonator) that will automatically replace the attachments with URLs to a Web server, where the attachments are stored.

    4. Re:SMTP is not a file transfer protocol! by rufty_tufty · · Score: 1

      http://www.yousendit.com/ does that if you like. Means leaving your email program though, but I find it a good way to send large files to people who only know how to email and surf

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  33. Leading the way in privacy policies. by samj · · Score: 3, Insightful

    So a long privacy policy is a good privacy policy? I think not. 30 pages of lawyerspeak is for the birds - all privacy policies (at least the ones you have to click through to obtain some service) should fit on a page or less, else they aren't generally read.

  34. webdrive? invite me and I'll build it by Inigo+Montoya · · Score: 1

    ok, someone invite me to this and I'll start work on an open source webdrive for it
    -- Cheers!

    1. Re:webdrive? invite me and I'll build it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Something like... GmailFS?

    2. Re:webdrive? invite me and I'll build it by Inigo+Montoya · · Score: 1

      yeah exactly like that.. start with that code base and replace libgmail with lib30gmail and I'm done .. thanks! :)

  35. No, it is needed by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 1

    If I don't have a TOS, I can more or less do with your data what I please. There are some limits, but not many. However if I have a TOS that says I won't hand it out, and then I do, you can sue me for it, and get an injunction to stop me from doing it. I can't go back on my word. At the very least I have to change the TOS, and let you know I've changed it first.

    While I agree TOSes shouldn't be unnecessiarly long or hard to understand, a good company will have a TOS and part of it will be what they are giving to YOU. If you get a high grade Internet connection, like a T1 line, the TOS will come with a provision often called a Service Level Agreement. This will state the garenteed uptime of your line, and the reimbursment you'll recieve should that not be met.

    Even TOSes that do nothing but state what you aren't allowed to do are good, because then you know where the line of demarcation lies. Hard to obey rules when you don't know what they are, and better you know what the rules are before you get in to something.

  36. invite please? by blu3sman · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Hi all could someone send me an invite? tnx a lot

  37. With free webmail being all the rage these days... by Electrode · · Score: 2, Insightful

    What I'm waiting for is someone that offers a PAID service, say around $5-10 a month.

    Not only would this eliminate any and all advertising in the interface and your outgoing mail, but it would invariably come with guaranteed availability. Y! and Gmail make no promises whatsoever that the mail stored on their servers won't get wiped due to a failure, upgrade or whatever.

    Such a service would also probably include features that you'll never see from the free ones, like telnet/SSH access (perhaps with a pine-like interface), access via POP, IMAP and maybe even certain groupware suites (GMail has POP, but the terms suggest they might do away with it in the future), ability to use your own domain, and high-security storage (encrypted disks and such).

  38. Size isn't everything? by dascandy · · Score: 3, Funny

    > Besides, size isn't everything!

    Ah, one of those again... luckily I've just set up my own dual RAID-5 mailserver for just my own mail, on 2.4TB disk.

    Whaddayamean, compensating?

  39. Can I get an invite? by dirtsurfer · · Score: 0, Offtopic
    anyone got an invite they can send my way?

    leo king (at) gmail (dot) com

    no spaces.

    Much appreciated!

    1. Re:Can I get an invite? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You mean leoking@gmail.com? Did I get it right?

  40. Re:No POP access by stuffisgood · · Score: 1

    That's true, although Gmail rebadges all emails sent through its SMTP server to be from your_address@gmail.com, regardless of what the from field was originally.

    Apart from that its an awesome service. One I use on a regular basis.

  41. What are GD2 signatures? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Given I already have a 7 year old notable email address and a gmail account, this service is useless to me. The only thing notable to me in their press release was this "GD2 signature"?

    There is nothing on the web about it, apart from this website. It seems to be saying that it uses GD2, the PHP version of GD (an on-the-fly graphics creation library used in web scripting), to create graphical signatures containing your email address at the end of your email. This relies on you sending HTML email. Because the signatures are graphical, your email address won't be spam-harvested if your mail subsequently appears on a website.

    There are a lot of problems with this being a wow-feature.
    * Many people don't put their email address in their signature, just their name.
    * I have yet to see any mail-to-web system that DOESN'T spam-protect all mail addresses, even in the signature.
    * Many people have an irrational loathing for HTML email, especially if it's only for a signature.
    * Spammers can easily code an OCR routine for signatures, like they did for easy captchas. If it uses the same font all the time, it's dead meat!

    So, basically, this is a distinguishing feature, but it's also lacklustre.

  42. shady? by bmgz · · Score: 1

    sounds like a test ground for that audio file spider that deletes whatever it finds..

  43. Huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "This rule holds for encryption: If you don't want people reading even the encrypted text, email is the wrong way to do things."

    How exactly does someone "read encrypted text", and why would you worry about them doing it? Now if you mean that you don't want to give anyone the chance to attempt to crack your encryption, I follow what you are saying, but with decent encryption, I wouldn't worry too much.

    1. Re:Huh? by corvair2k1 · · Score: 1

      Two possible cases where you wouldn't want someone to read the mail with the encrypted message: A) You're not using a block cipher, so it's possible to tell how long the message is, and B) you don't want anyone to know that you're corresponding with the recipient of your message.

      In example A, say someone responds to a message in a non-block-cipher way. The message sent first says, "Should we attack at dawn?" The message you send back has enough information for two characters. Your enemy knows to not expect an attack at dawn.

      Also, if you're an executive of a publicly traded company, and someone sees you sending lots of email with another executive of a direct competitor. People looking at this traffic can see that something big is happening, possibly a buyout of one company by the other, so they load up on stock. This isn't something you want to happen, lest the SEC get wind of it.

      I don't know why I responded like this to an AC... you'll probably never read it.

  44. Re:With free webmail being all the rage these days by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You mean having your own server then. It's really not as expensive or complicated (sorry if that sounds condescending) as you might think.

    Stick IMAP on it, and you have access to all your mail from almost anywhere (stick a web interface to IMAP on it and you really have access from everywhere). Now you've got yourself as much space as you like, all the services you want, no ads, and complete control.

    I used to run a setup like this from home, but switched to colo when I figured out how cheap it could be (£30 a month). Okay that's not in your $5-10 price range, but you'll get that extra money's worth.

  45. Mod Parent Up! Orig Mod was a fucking idiot! by oncehour · · Score: 1

    Why the hell is this rated flamebait? Does someone have an agenda against marcello or something? There's nothing here, inflammatory, trollish or even offtopic.

    1. Re:Mod Parent Up! Orig Mod was a fucking idiot! by marcello_dl · · Score: 1

      I am quite surprised myself. Nobody ever let me know they have something against me, so I guess there's no agenda.

      Thank you anyway :)

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  46. Unbeatable offer for receiving mail ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    .., we offer the largest mail account in history. Our serverpark contains a Linux machine that can handle a virtually infinite amount of data.
    You can write thousands of mails a day, and receive millions of mails a day, all through our (Major 1 Minor 8)-class of Mass Network Devices

    The machine will not break, but will store your data on our redundant array of (Major 1 Minor 3)-class of storage media.
    This technology enables extreme fast processing (memory class speeds) and continuous parallel storage. If that is not enough, data throughput amounts can be increased by utilizing our patented (Major 1 Minor 9)-class of data device with micro-resolution.

    For more info, send a self-addressed mail to MoreDataStorage@localhost;YourMailHost.

  47. Re:Obligatory memory limit joke. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Notice the rel="nofollow" in your sig?

    Idiot.

  48. It's less than gmail... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Remember that Gmail offers you "infinitum+1"

  49. Re:With free webmail being all the rage these days by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What I'm waiting for is someone that offers a PAID service, say around $5-10 a month.

    You mean like Yahoo! Mail Plus, which is $19 a year (I am currently a subscriber). It removes all advertising from mail, calender, address book and sent messages - and will never delete your account for being inactive (all reasons that I hate Gmail).

    access via POP [..] and maybe even certain groupware suites (GMail has POP, but the terms suggest they might do away with it in the future), ability to use your own domain

    Yahoo's Mail Plus service includes POP access. For an additional $35 a year (for a total of $4.50 per month), they'll host your domain and allow you to use it with their email service (I think you just go to http: //mail.[yourdomain].com and you get the full Yahoo webmail interface). They even offer such services for businesses so that it's easy to set up a domain with several thousand employees all using Yahoo's webmail. The only things you mention that are missing from Yahoo mail is the encrypted access via https - and a telnet interface... however:

    (1) Yahoo! webmail does actually work when accessed via the Lynx text browser from a command shell. Of course, it would probably be better to use something like Pine and point it at Yahoo's POP server. Take your pick.
    (2) You should be using end-to-end encryption like GPG if you're worried about security anyway (because being secure to and on the server makes no difference if your mail is being sent to recipients via plaintext anyway).

  50. Connection Speed by 42Penguins · · Score: 1

    How long would it take to fill this inbox, even by uploading files? For me, 40KB/s. 30GB = 31457280B 218.4 hours nonstop Now maybe if I could leech someone else's connection...

    1. Re:Connection Speed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your math isnt all that great, and you have a serious typo. If you woulda said 30gb=xxx"K"B then it woulda been ok, but you said just B for bytes. If you used KB (as you surely intended, then the 1024 bytes in 1 kilobyte would have divided out and you would have been correct.)
      Also if you round 218.45 you should get 218.5 not 218.4, actulally it would have made more sense mathmatically to round to 218 hours.

  51. economical? by akhomerun · · Score: 1

    how can these huge email services be economical? just by signing up they have to spend about $10 on you.

    the type of ad support probably gets more and more intrusive as the services get larger and larger amounts of storage to give away. I wouldn't trust such a service, especially since 100 Megabytes (or less) suits me just fine, and that can be supported using normal ad revenue and not any of the personalized crap that gathers your info and throws ads at you based on your info.

    1. Re:economical? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They don't have huge racks of empty hard drives for all the people with near-empty accounts. It only costs them for the space that you actually use.

  52. Re:Obligatory memory limit joke. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Thanks for pointing me to Michael Moore's cool website. Why the name calling though? Surely you're not trying an unsucessful "google bomb"? Btw, you're the idiot for the free advertising you're giving him.

  53. Re:With free webmail being all the rage these days by Komarosu · · Score: 1

    I'd like to know where that £30/pm colo is...

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  54. Re: Mali by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Why one would want a box there, I have no idea.
    Dr Ngongo Katumbo of the Nigerian Petroleum Bank seems to know, for he's got one too, and for nothing more than the measly $11,000 advance fee I sent there, he'll let me have a whopping 10% out of the THIRTY MILLION DOLLARS he is about to launder.

    (NB: The characters and events in this message are fictitious. Any similarity to actual spamvertised services is purely coincidental.)

  55. Re:With free webmail being all the rage these days by MichaelSmith · · Score: 1
    I'd like to know where that £30/pm colo is...

    Is that for a whole rack?

  56. and don't forget archiving email by DuctTape · · Score: 1
    Don't forget that with Yahoo! Mail Plus you can archive your online email back to your computer. It sends you a .zip file with one .eml file per message.

    DT

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  57. can i get an invite? by immorak · · Score: 1

    I wouldn't mind trying this thing out. Anyone have an extra invite code?

  58. Who wants an invite? by nthitz · · Score: 1

    If you want an invite send me an email mailto:nthitz@gmail.com I still have like 8 left. The service is pretty stupid though.

    1. Re:Who wants an invite? by solitas · · Score: 1

      Please? And thank You! solitas[at]softhome[dot]net

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  59. Re:With free webmail being all the rage these days by (A)*(B)!0_- · · Score: 2, Interesting
    "GMail has POP, but the terms suggest they might do away with it in the future

    From http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answe r=10350&topic=194

    "POP access is free for all Gmail users and we have no plans to charge for it in the future."

    What in that statement suggests that they might do away with it in the future? Or were you just spreading FUD based on something you read a long time ago?

  60. Not the best of solution to fix the problem... by pete_norm · · Score: 1


    There seems to have been a slight problem with the database.

    Please try again by pressing the refresh button in your browser.

    We apologise for any inconvenience



    Talk about being a masochist...

  61. Runbox.com by Powertrip · · Score: 2, Interesting

    And alternative that is not free, but very full featured is RUNBOX (www.runbox.com). Runbox offers 10GB email, and 1GB of file storage. They also offer POP, IMAP, Webmail, WAP and Mobile access. They even provide SSL access to boot. Pretty great service for a small fee. You can also host your own domains email on their server, thus giving you the ability to keep your johndoe@mymail.xxx accounts if you desire. Check it out, I've been using it for several years and love it.

  62. Actually, yes it is. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    16/1024 is 0.015625, which rounds to .016.

  63. Re:With free webmail being all the rage these days by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's with a friend, but I got that price because he was matching an offer I'd alread found with a commercial provider. I can't remember who that was, but I think it was listed on this page;

    http://www.paul.sladen.org/colo/

    And to the other post; no of course it's not a whole rack, you crazy. It's for 1U.

  64. suso offers unlimited by suso · · Score: 1

    30 gigs? suso.org has been offering no quota email since 1997.

    1. Re:suso offers unlimited by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fuck off.

    2. Re:suso offers unlimited by nachoboy · · Score: 1

      30 gigs? suso.org has been offering no quota email since 1997.

      I respect what you're doing, I really do. I think it's great that you run a business with such a personal touch. But there really is no such thing as unlimited hosting services. Every single provider has an "uncle" clause in the TOS that basically says, "if we think you're using too much, we cut you off." It's usually expressed in nicer terms, like "undue strain on the system" or "unfair share of the resources" but it all means the same thing. As soon as usage hits some magical number, you're out of a provider. And since I'd like to be able to steer clear of my cap, I'd much rather find a provider that's upfront about what that ceiling is. It means that they've at least done some rudimentary math with regards to server capacity, and I know exactly how close I am to needing a better plan or different provider.

      Personally, I use 1and1.com. I originally signed up under their 3 years free hosting plan, and I moved all my domains to them after about 14 months of solid service. $10 a month gets me 2 GB space and 50 GB transfer, 500 1GB email accounts, 5000 email aliases, and 3 free domain names. It's well more than 10 times what I need, so I have the comfort of an "unlimited" plan with guaranteed service.

  65. read the small print! by r3ddr · · Score: 1, Informative

    they DO collect your personal info(data)!

    Unable to connect to MySQL server: localhost : '': Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock' (11)

  66. Infinite Storage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Suso.org http://www.suso.org/accounts/ offers email-only or web hosting accounts that have no storage limit, in theory anyway. Sure, if you get ridiculous they will ask you to tone it down. However, I have over 2.5Gb of back emails stored there. No problems. You get POP and IMAP access, authenticated SMTP and you can register your own domain. The admin is a good guy. I don't know him personally, but he's always bailed me out when I do something stupid. I've been using them for about a year, and have only had a couple of down times that were resolved quickly. Disclaimer: I am in no way affiliated with these guys. I just like the service.

  67. Gmail responses by r3m0t · · Score: 2, Informative

    - Do anyone know how much spam you get with this service?
    You don't get spam from them. The spam filter has been excellent for me so far - and I've used it for a long time.

    - How does it handle attachements and their sizes?
    An e-mail can be up to 10 MB once encoded, including the message body and attachments. http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answe r=8770&query=attachments&topic=0&type=f&ctx=en:sea rch

    - How fast does mail travel through their servers?
    Who cares? It probably doesn't take very long.

    - How high uptime do their servers have?
    24 hours a day most days, but sometimes there are a fwe hours of unreliable service.

    - Customizable mail filters to manage mail?
    Yes.

    - Multiple labels per mail, set by filters?
    Yes.

    - POP3 forwarding/servers?
    Yes.

    - Address books?
    A basic one.

    - Antivirus checks?
    No (but viruses probably enter the spam box).

    - Do they backup?
    Dunno. Don't really care much, either. Google are good at storing data.

  68. Re:With free webmail being all the rage these days by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  69. SMTP banner by gumbo · · Score: 2, Informative

    Note their SMTP banner:

    220-server.solostar.ca ESMTP Exim 4.52 #1 Mon, 03 Oct 2005 09:23:15 -0400

    It doesn't even have their domain name in there, which is a good sign that they don't have their own server but are using shared web hosting or bought a dedicated server from a host. I doubt there's more than one server available.

    Then note the occasional MySQL errors trying to get to their home page.

    Then look at solostar.ca, the domain in the SMTP greeting, and all the weird spammy links on their home page.

    My guess is this is a site set up by one teenager somewhere and won't last more than a few weeks. It's impressive that he got it up on here, though, so maybe he has a future in future plans that are thought out better than this one...

    1. Re:SMTP banner by seanvaandering · · Score: 1

      Finally!

      Masturbation. Masturbation Techniques - Masturbation techniques, masturbation guide.

      Is this guy a geek or what!?!?

  70. their not really really ready ready by griasr · · Score: 0

    their not really really ready ready i cannot signup, shows me that mysql error too. and on the frontpage it says "30 gigs malibox" i would like to be in malibu too looks like some ./ friend wants to promote his free service

  71. Wal-Mart of the Web by muthea · · Score: 1

    I think the biggest issue here is that people are more and more inclined to want/expect an all-in-one, one-stop experience everywhere they go. Much like the Wal-Mart Supercenter, or the ever-expanding features of amazon.com, everything is slowly being tailored to provide all amenities a person could want, rather than having to go to multiple places for individual services.

  72. GD2? by Mike+Hicks · · Score: 2, Interesting

    What's a GD2 signature? A quick search only brings up material related to the GD graphics library, plus a handful of articles related to this webmail site.

  73. Hard drives by ShentarZ31 · · Score: 0

    At what point will webmail companies start just sending you a hard drive instead of going through all the hassle of making a site with all the scripts and connections to the net to make a mail server? "Sign up with (clever name here)mail.com and recieve your own high storage email server!"

    Has anyone even come close to using 2gb in gmail account? At some point in the attempt to top everyone else you just have to ask, "why?"

  74. Not sure about those guys by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Not sure about those guys I use http://www.loftmail.com/ and I'm happy I got SSL IMAP/POP and web what more you need? :)

  75. Rant by d03boy · · Score: 0

    It would be nice if one of these large storage email offers allowed me to send/receive emails that were larger than 5mb.

  76. Re:Rant 50MB email attachment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And again 50MB email attachment here: http://www.loftmail.com/

  77. /. effect by marafa · · Score: 1

    Unable to connect to MySQL server: localhost : '': Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock' (11)

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  78. Email = The new P2P??? by Khyber · · Score: 1

    With our storage space in our email inboxes getting larger and larger, and as companies increase the maximum size of file attachments that can be sent thru email, I predict that eventually email will become just "another P2P" to a point. Sure, it'll still be used for sending emails, but now, instead of spam, we'll be seeing huge full-length movies dropping into our inbox, waiting for us to download.

    I wonder how long it'll take the **AA to sink their claws into that one?

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    Still waiting on Serviscope_minor to wake up to fucking reality and realize that Jessica Price isn't going to fuck him.
    1. Re:Email = The new P2P??? by Itanshi · · Score: 1

      Hmm, if not then, how about here? http://www.dropload.com/

    2. Re:Email = The new P2P??? by Khyber · · Score: 1

      how about http://www.yousendit.com/ it does 1GB files. And you don't need an email address or a password or need to sign up!

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      Still waiting on Serviscope_minor to wake up to fucking reality and realize that Jessica Price isn't going to fuck him.
  79. How much does it cost... by teneighty · · Score: 1

    How much does it cost to get a blatant ad like this posted as a story? Because I'd sure love to post a few ad^H^Hstories myself.

  80. I am such a loser... by bromoseltzer · · Score: 2, Funny

    I signed onto gmail about 6 months ago, about when they upped their quota to 2 GB. How fine!

    Except since then, I've accumulated 172 MB of mail and the Gmail quota has gone up in steps to 2650 MB.

    I am falling behind by nearly 100 MB a month. Help!

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  81. NEWSBREAK by ericdfields · · Score: 1

    "Google clandestinely ups its Gmail storage limit to 100 gigs."

    Well, soon enough at least.

  82. Already slashdotted!!! by Odddlaw · · Score: 1

    What use is it, if it already has been slashdotted!!! First attempt to visit their homepage, sql error...

  83. ugh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Their site looks terrible on a big-screen Linux box running Firefox...

  84. anyone could invite me? i'd like to test it. by xurde · · Score: 1

    my mail is jorgedf [at] gmail.com thanks a lot

  85. Re:With free webmail being all the rage these days by AviLazar · · Score: 1

    make no promises whatsoever that the mail stored on their servers won't get wiped due to a failure, upgrade or whatever.

    Any company making this gaurantee is asking for a world of hurtin in the future. It's along the lines of doctors saying it's 99.9% effective...there is always that slim sliver of a chance that something might go wrong. Saying 100% and backing it up is a tough thing to do.

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  86. short-term solution by burntash · · Score: 1

    finally i have some free dump space to put my pr0n, i seriously just finished filling my 120gb hd and im using my ibook's 60gb hd for backup storage,... well cause what good is os x?

  87. business plan by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    1) advertise something ridiculous and cost ineffective
    2) ???
    3) PROFIT!

  88. Bull crap by programertobe · · Score: 1

    I sincerely doubt that they would offer 30 gig of email space, first off, no one would need that much space, and secondly why would anyone, but an amateur noob give away practcally a whole hard drive? I don't like the looks of this.

  89. Reminds me of this Onion article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  90. Seriously.... by dafragsta · · Score: 1

    ... how Johnny Come Lately and pointless is this? It's like the guy in Something about Mary and 7 minute abs. At the rate at which I recieve extra space on GMail, I'm likely to hit 30GB of storage on there before I ever use the 2GB they start you out with. I've been using GMail for almost a year now and I have barely used 200MB of storage and I now have 2.6GB of accumulated storage.

    So if all things being rationally tilted for GMail, including trustworthyness and the fact that Google has a scary vibe of keeping their users best interests at heart, (until we see their real evil plans) in addition to using a free product provided by a company with billions of dollars in net worth and a strong supporter of open source, I say GMail is still really the only way to go, unless you are too attached to hotmail or yahoo to switch.

  91. Invite please??? by persyus · · Score: 1

    Can someone send me an invite to persyus[AT]gmail[DOT]com?? Thanks in advance!!!

  92. Site seems to have crashed/slashdotted by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Site down ? Slashdotted already!
    "Unable to connect to MySQL server: localhost : '': Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock' (11)".

  93. Nice trick by sbeashwar · · Score: 0

    "Unable to connect to MySQL server: localhost : '': Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock' (11)"

    Yeah, this is a cool way to make sure that nobody uses their 30GB mail box.

  94. This won't be enough for all the porn spam I get by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    know what i'm sayin?

  95. error by CrashRoX · · Score: 1

    Unable to connect to MySQL server: localhost : '': Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock' (11)

    I will just tell my clients that my email provider was having trouble connecting to MySQL and I apologize that I couldnt get back to them

  96. Wait... 30 gigs of space yet it cant handle.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Its got the space... but it cant handle 30 gigs of bandwidth from slashdot readers... wtf?

  97. The best feature of Gmail, by far... by artemis67 · · Score: 1

    is longevity.

    I never heard of 30gigs.com, they have no track record with me, and therefore I don't intend on trusting them with 30 gigs of my email and watching them become another dot com flameout.

    Google, OTOH, is not going anywhere anytime soon. They are big enough that if they start to go under, they'll be bought out by one of the other major players (Microsoft, Apple, Yahoo, etc), so even then I don't foresee Gmail disappearing in the next ten years.

  98. Copy and paste post by nacs · · Score: 1, Troll

    Way to copy and paste my post from yesterday. Nothing quite like stealing other people's posts and claiming them as your own.

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  99. Review from an actual user by nacs · · Score: 4, Informative

    I tried out this thing yesterday for a bit.

    Here's the problems:

    1) The domain name sucks. Who wants to be john@30gigs.com

    2) The interface sucks. Hard. It's about as plain as it can get (it looks like they're just using Squirrelmail with their own stylesheet).

    3) Their privacy policy is vague on what kind of information they share

    4) There doesn't seem to be any reputable parent company behind it meaning it's chances of survival are questionable.

    Overall rating: THUMBS DOWN.

    (I posted this review to Neowin yesterday BTW).

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    1. Re:Review from an actual user by Sabindaman · · Score: 1

      could you send me an invite please sabindaman(at)gmail(dot)com

    2. Re:Review from an actual user by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just because it doesn't have major corporate backing does not mean it's destin to fail, please note a lot of the software you use today was created without the help of major corporations. Cheers.

    3. Re:Review from an actual user by Lasos · · Score: 0

      i know u prolly get alot of these but could u send me an invite ty

  100. Re:With free webmail being all the rage these days by digid · · Score: 1

    You should check out www.fastmail.fm. They have a wide variety of domains to choose from. Or if you would prefer to host your own domain you simply point your domain's MX records to their servers(I use three of their smtp servers for redudancy two are in the US and one is in europe). You then simply use their web interface to bind the domain to your account(so they know how to relay the mail to). I've been using it for several years and they have an incredible uptime record. If they ever do go down they send me an email a week in advance saying something along the lines of being down for several minutes to do maintenance. I pay $40 a year for email and get:
    -No Advertisements
    -2 gigs of space
    -imap and pop
    -virus scanning and spam filtering(they might be using clamAv and SpamAssasin)
    -very customizable rules interface(You can use their interface or write your own sieve scripts.)
    -Email forwarding(even via SMS)
    -File Storage(Accessible via web interface or webdav)
    -Subdomain(Great for wildcarding---fast and easy to create throw away email addresses)
    -Customizable CSS stylesheets to customize the look and feel of your mailbox to your own needs. They have a whole bunch of prebuilt ones you can choose from as well. Personally I like Slipstream Pro
    -Multiple Personalities(Useful for managing multiple email addresses with one mailbox. EXAMPLE: I receive all my ebay email at ebay@my.domain.com. This email is filtered into a folder called ebay. I assign an ebay personality to that folder. When I browse my ebay folder and reply the email goes out as from ebay@my.domain.com not from my default account.)
    -You can download all your attachments in an email as a compressed file instead of individually downloading all of them.
    -You can transfer attachments to your file storage for easy access
    -You can download all your emails as a compressed file for personal archiving(I tested this and was able to download my entire inbox, 160mb worth of stuff, and import it into my mail client on my computer)
    -Phishing Protection: Disable links in emails that point appear to point to sites inconsistent with the link text. This can be turned on or off.
    -WebBug Protection: Disables display of images from the web in html emails, to prevent spammers tracking whether you open spam; also disables forms. This can be turned on or off.

    The list goes on and on...People laugh at me for paying for email....I don't mind paying for a service that actually does what I want it to do. Check it out. They have a guest account which is free. It doesn't have much storage space and a few of the advanced features are disabled but it will still give you a taste of what it offers.

    Darren

  101. More space? Pfft. by n0other · · Score: 1

    Competing on space is useless. I use google's gmail not because of those 2.x GB they give me, I use them because I like their ajax interface, I like the fact that there's no forced ads and so on. Speaking of space, I have around 200 MB filled (and still, I suppose I'm ahead of ~70% other gmail users by the space usage). It's overselling. Impossible for everyone to fill their 2 GB, same applies to this 30 GB mailbox.

  102. fill it how? by Duncan3 · · Score: 1

    I have all my (non-spam) email since 1995, and I get alot of email, including several lists.

    It's 252MB currently.

    30GB is a advertising stunt.

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  103. Nonsense! by StikyPad · · Score: 1

    In their brief review of the service a Neowin user also offers a word of caution with regards to their extremely short terms of service and privacy policy, calling them "shady".

    So let me get this straight.. you're saying I shouldn't entrust an unknown startup to store all my important files and personal information? I personally went to the website, and after I gave my credit card informatin to the talking moose in a popup, it seemed perfectly fine to me. I went ahead and cut-and-paste My Documents to MyFiles on the website, and now I have all this free hard drive space to download Elf Bowling! Oooo, this other popup wants to install MyWebSearch.exe any time I put my mouse over it. How many times do I have to click OK before it goes away?!?!

  104. How about 1000 GB by Easy2RememberNick · · Score: 1

    Or 1000 GB at Mailnation (as seen on digg.com)

    http://www.mailnation.net/

  105. 30gigs.com Invites by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Go to:
    http://30.evilpigster.com/

    You can get an invite, then give at least 1 back for others if you want to keep it alive.

  106. Re:Obligatory memory limit joke. by boisepunk · · Score: 1

    Do you really people can't see through posting A/C twice to the same post making the same point? Whoever you are, start paying attention to things other than slashdot, then start criticising other people on their political leanings. Idiot.

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  107. Really big warning by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They also run this site, http://msxsecurity.com/csh/ where they sell hacks to popular games so people can cheat. And for that site, where they make people pay for cheats, he also asked around how he could get money by infecting people's pcs.
    http://www.geekvillage.com/forums/showthread.php?s =5cfc4e8c35bdc5ba95f7e06055fdee1a&threadid=28785
    (he is maz)

    Why has slashdot stooped so low as to give this guy free advertising? And yes, i know the irony of me posting his links as well, but that is only to show why slashdot should not be posting this crap.

  108. terabyte mail is already here!! by sdnoob · · Score: 1

    you're too late !!

    http://www.mailnation.net/

    # FREE 1000GB Email (POP3/IMAP Access)
    # 10MB attachment limit!
    # Address Book/Notes/Tasks
    # Spam Preventing Features For Your Protection
    # WAP Access - Mobile Device (http://www.mailnation.net:90/mail/wap)
    # Auto Message Responders & Auto Forwarders
    # Multiple Web-Interface Styles & Multiple Languages Supported
    # Always Count On Our Highly Ranked Email System & Server Reliability
    # Sophisticated Search For Email Messages
    # Never Have To Delete Again (Large Email Box)
    # HelpDesk Ticket System For User Help, Comments, And Updates
    # One of the friendliest communities in the Emailing World!
    # Telephone Support

    they may have the storage capacity, but can they handle a dotting? hehehehe.

  109. Invite by pookie13 · · Score: 0

    Could someone send me an invite to this service? I hope that someone kind person sees this second comment of mine to this and gives me an invite. Well the address was karpanen (at) gmail dot com

  110. 30gigs.com Invites by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have 7 invites to 30gigs.com. They can be found on my blog here: http://plaza.ufl.edu/prestia/B321242444/C171085616 8/E20051004123347/index.html. First ones to request them can have them. I'm not impressed with the service, but I might as well let other people give it a shot.