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Re:gcc toolchain?
Actually, DevKitARM has compilers for GBA and GP32 development already. Considering that the GBA uses an ARM7 CPU, and the GP32 uses an ARM9, and both CPUs are present in the DS, it would just take a little reverse engineering and writing libraries compatible with the DS hardware to make an easy-to-use development setup for the DS.
Unfortunately, this info will probably get overlooked since I'm posting AC. But, I moderated in this story, so I don't have much choice. -
Re:It has an OpenGL codepath under Windows...
You mean like Doom3, UT2004 etc. scales over a largish hardware range, dropping advanced features as needed? Why, the same way.
To be specific, I would take an open-source engine (e.g this one ) and port it to the mentioned platforms. Then I would allow effects to be switched on and off (use stencil shadows or just blobs? Viewing distance?) and use the good old trick of having two (or three) detail levels used at different distances. And so on.
Java is another possibility, though I must admit, I don't know about Java and PS2 --- but when a JVM exists for Z/OS, everything is possible.
As I said, it is not that hard And as I said, I don't buy games that are not natively running on Linux.
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Enlightenment and Evidence
Enlightenment also has a file manager application called Evidence. Strong on metadata support, and with cool themes, evidence is specifically written to handle large or deeply nested directories. Have a look at the Pretty pictures.
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Re:Took a while
Okay, so it's been 4 years since the last major release, and yes, I used to love Enlightenment back in the day, but the world has moved on to bigger and better things (KDE, Gnome, OS-X). Enlightenment still has a lot of catching up to do before it is newsworthy!
This is not true. As can be seen on this page, the last release was only three months ago. Also, you do not descern between the different releases. The release noted in the post in DR17, which is very new. I know being informed before you post on
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that's all well and good..
The Nitro project is actually working on tunnelling games over the internet. I believe they're using some of this guy's data as help, but they're also doing other stuff.
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Just how screwed up is Diebold? Video download...
http://thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmenti
d =18516
It's a 158meg Bittorrent file (GEMSDEMO.avi.torrent) - if you have a client installed such as Azureus:
http://azureus.sourceforge.net/download.php ...it'll auto-start.
Playing time is only 15 minutes. File size is that big because it's in 800x600 .AVI :).
I "filmed" it with a screen record utility with audio commentary voice-over. Sound is a bit low, but crank the volume and it'll work. It uses the Intel Indeo codex which I understand is problematic on Macs...sorry. Windoze Media handles it and I would suspect there's some Linux player available?
If anybody here doesn't "get it" yet about how screwed up their "security" (ha!) is, this will do. Makes sense to most non-techies, too.
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Re:Not For Quake
>Plus, with the FPGA, not only could be hack the DRIVERS, you could hack the FIRMWARE! Think! You could buy the card, and write software to take the burden off the CPU for decoding MPEG2 or 4.
Why MPEG? What about Ogg Theora? You can even reuse parts of the Verilog code (GNU/GPL) designed for Theora encoder (same Xilinx Spartan 3 architecture) - http://sourceforge.net/pm/task.php?func=detailtask &project_task_id=106273&group_id=105686&group_proj ect_id=38873 (code itself is in the CVS of the same project).
And I would definitely love to have such cards to use (and provide to our customers) with the cameras we make. -
Re:Eww gross!
Yes. That's exactly what it is.
Except that this is software, so I think it means a group of people whose way of life revolves around (a culture) getting mono to work on Windows.
Which, of course is equally gross. Like the assumption that Christopher Lambert is a Scotsman, or that Sean Connery is Spanish. -
Re:Lisp, Smalltalk overrated?What is it with all these "out of ignorance" arguments and Slashdot? Does this site purposefully attract people that don't know something and then make them express that fact? Just because you don't know any free Lisp code (obviously you haven't bothered looking, because you're convinced that Lisp sucks because it doesn't have any free code) doesn't actually mean there's no free code. Pull your head out of the sand and have a look at these collections:
Cliki, a wiki directory of "Links to and resources for free software implemented in Common Lisp and available on Unix-like systems."
CLOCC - the Common Lisp Open Code Collection"
common-lisp.net, providing hosting and remote repositories to dozens of Free Software Common Lisp applications.This doesn't even touch SourceForge (which hosts another two dozen or so Lisp projects I'm aware of). When you consider how small the Lisp community is compared to the number of Perl hackers (easily in the range of 1000:1), and the number and quality of the code on just those repositories to CPAN, the productivity advantage of Lisp really does seem closer to 50x. According to your argument, all those Perl hackers should not have had any trouble in coming up with an efficient implementation by now. Yet, with less that a dozen regular hackers between them, the CMUCL and SBCL projects have produced compilers that outperform g++. At the very least, the Perl folks should not have had any trouble producing an efficient regular expression library, but here again, Lisp has them beat.
Of course, the above links point to software written in only one dialect of Lisp, Common Lisp. When you consider the software produced in other dialects, like Scheme, NewLisp, LUSH, XLISP, and Isis, the difference becomes even more apparent. To say nothing of commercial software, where none of the languages you mention can even boast a fraction of the number of large, successful systems delivered in Lisp.
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Re:Lisp, Smalltalk overrated?What is it with all these "out of ignorance" arguments and Slashdot? Does this site purposefully attract people that don't know something and then make them express that fact? Just because you don't know any free Lisp code (obviously you haven't bothered looking, because you're convinced that Lisp sucks because it doesn't have any free code) doesn't actually mean there's no free code. Pull your head out of the sand and have a look at these collections:
Cliki, a wiki directory of "Links to and resources for free software implemented in Common Lisp and available on Unix-like systems."
CLOCC - the Common Lisp Open Code Collection"
common-lisp.net, providing hosting and remote repositories to dozens of Free Software Common Lisp applications.This doesn't even touch SourceForge (which hosts another two dozen or so Lisp projects I'm aware of). When you consider how small the Lisp community is compared to the number of Perl hackers (easily in the range of 1000:1), and the number and quality of the code on just those repositories to CPAN, the productivity advantage of Lisp really does seem closer to 50x. According to your argument, all those Perl hackers should not have had any trouble in coming up with an efficient implementation by now. Yet, with less that a dozen regular hackers between them, the CMUCL and SBCL projects have produced compilers that outperform g++. At the very least, the Perl folks should not have had any trouble producing an efficient regular expression library, but here again, Lisp has them beat.
Of course, the above links point to software written in only one dialect of Lisp, Common Lisp. When you consider the software produced in other dialects, like Scheme, NewLisp, LUSH, XLISP, and Isis, the difference becomes even more apparent. To say nothing of commercial software, where none of the languages you mention can even boast a fraction of the number of large, successful systems delivered in Lisp.
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Re:Lisp, Smalltalk overrated?What is it with all these "out of ignorance" arguments and Slashdot? Does this site purposefully attract people that don't know something and then make them express that fact? Just because you don't know any free Lisp code (obviously you haven't bothered looking, because you're convinced that Lisp sucks because it doesn't have any free code) doesn't actually mean there's no free code. Pull your head out of the sand and have a look at these collections:
Cliki, a wiki directory of "Links to and resources for free software implemented in Common Lisp and available on Unix-like systems."
CLOCC - the Common Lisp Open Code Collection"
common-lisp.net, providing hosting and remote repositories to dozens of Free Software Common Lisp applications.This doesn't even touch SourceForge (which hosts another two dozen or so Lisp projects I'm aware of). When you consider how small the Lisp community is compared to the number of Perl hackers (easily in the range of 1000:1), and the number and quality of the code on just those repositories to CPAN, the productivity advantage of Lisp really does seem closer to 50x. According to your argument, all those Perl hackers should not have had any trouble in coming up with an efficient implementation by now. Yet, with less that a dozen regular hackers between them, the CMUCL and SBCL projects have produced compilers that outperform g++. At the very least, the Perl folks should not have had any trouble producing an efficient regular expression library, but here again, Lisp has them beat.
Of course, the above links point to software written in only one dialect of Lisp, Common Lisp. When you consider the software produced in other dialects, like Scheme, NewLisp, LUSH, XLISP, and Isis, the difference becomes even more apparent. To say nothing of commercial software, where none of the languages you mention can even boast a fraction of the number of large, successful systems delivered in Lisp.
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An easy solution?
What if you set up your Linux system with User Mode Linux, or your FreeBSD system with FreeBSD jails, like modern hosting companies provide. This will provide your external customer/vendor with root access, but within a locked in virtual server. If your external vendor wants to maintain their database installation, fine: they have root on their own "machine", on their own IP, and there is very little risk to the larger system with real root.
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UML?
Depending on the nature of the application, you can give the vendor a UML machine and its root access. This lets them do what they want/need to, without compromising your environment.
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Re:1 comment?
Posting works. It's morning EST; the nerds slumber. I for one am pumped about 2.0. I'm a recent convert from Linux and I like NetBSD's installer as well as its bloat and crap-free default software arsenal.
With Fluxbox, the GNU coreutils, and bash, my P133 makes a reasonable desktop workstation. Though Linux would work, the low hard-drive footprint of a NetBSD install is what makes the installation trouble-free. Comparable modern Linux distros seem to me to take time to whittle down to a sub-300MB install. With NetBSD, the core system with XFree uses only 290.
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Re:Sword of Fargoal!
May I suggest this Fargoal remake?
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Re:"older" vs "Microsoft"?
That's good, they aren't making any more unix-based apps from what I've heard. What kind of silly statement is that?
How about this site:
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Re:Sword of Fargoal!
There's a remake of Sword of Fargoal for Linux and Windows: http://squidfighter.sourceforge.net/fargoal/
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Re:Max OS X is great, but...
I have been using a mac since OS 6 was first introduced. I currently own an iBook G4 and while it does not support an extended desktop there is a firmware hack that will provide you with this capability if you have a vid card with enough RAM.
That said I do have 2 pcs at home, one running windows XP and the other running Debian. For some of the more obvious annoyances between my mac and windows pc (fink and apple's X11 actually give me most of the capabilities of my Debian box):
1) many websites (large corporations, including many banks) are optimized for windows and will not display properly in Safari or IE for mac (no longer supported by Microsoft). This can be overcome if you happen to run Microsoft's Virtual PC, which will run XP and therefore a compatible IE.
2)I do not like iPhoto's categorizing my digital photos. I have yet to find a good program for the mac (I use Firehand Ember on my PC)
3)Which brings me to another point, there is a lot more shareware out there for Windows (however, if you are proficient with Unix, many of these types of applications have already been written for Unix and can be compiled on OS X given a little time).
4)If you need to have all the shiny new software out there, then the mac is not for you. An example is Gmail. It only recently began supporting Safari and there is still no Gmail notifier for OS X (although there are some nifty Gmail widgets out there for Konfabulator).
5)Upgrading is more often than not a problem. Don't think that you can head off to CompUSA and buy a new video card for your new G5 tower. Memory is really the only readily upgradeable component in an apple (and this is only a recent addition). Many apples leave you stuck with what you bought (I do not really see this as a big problem as I like to upgrade to a completely new system every 2 years or so anyways).
6)People will salivate all over your new computer. So if you have OCD don't buy a new mac.
If you are heavy into windows and need to use Microsoft Access or other windows only apps extensively, don't think that virtual PC will be your savior if you buy a mac. In this case stick with Windows for these things. However, if you are just waffling because you can not think of what you "might" be missing, just jump in and go buy a new 1.33GHz iBook, you will not be disappointed. I myself will always use a macintosh, not being a PC gamer and now that I have the command line and X11 I may never use anything else. -
Re:I want Bruce Lee on my Cell phone!
I've already got a C64 emulator on my phone, courtesy of the open source Frodo emulator. Requires a phone with Symbian OS, though, but it definitely rocks.
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Re:There are others you know...
Ipod can use open source too....
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Re:sounds like a cool idea but
Again, Konspire2B is designed for this sort of thing, and has been stable for ages. Create a channel (by posting a public key) and broadcast on that channel. Anyone subscribed to your channel will receive the file and help-out with the distribution. Text, images, video, anything that's a file will work, and if you leave it running, it'll pick-up everything on the channels you're subscribed to.
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Introducing 'broadcatching'
Broadcatching is one of the coolest new uses of RSS and the huge availability of TV shows available as Bittorrents.
Think of it as Tivo for your computer. Simply construct some well crafted regular expressions into an RSS Importer plugin for your favorite multi platform Bittorrent client and you're good to go.
Buy yourself a quality 400GB HDD and store up a plethora of the shows you like ready to watch when you are.
Here's a great step-by-step how to, should you need it.
Word or two of advice: it's a good idea to learn how to build some pretty precise expressions or you will end up with a number of different version of the same show (format, compression etc.). -
Introducing 'broadcatching'
Broadcatching is one of the coolest new uses of RSS and the huge availability of TV shows available as Bittorrents.
Think of it as Tivo for your computer. Simply construct some well crafted regular expressions into an RSS Importer plugin for your favorite multi platform Bittorrent client and you're good to go.
Buy yourself a quality 400GB HDD and store up a plethora of the shows you like ready to watch when you are.
Here's a great step-by-step how to, should you need it.
Word or two of advice: it's a good idea to learn how to build some pretty precise expressions or you will end up with a number of different version of the same show (format, compression etc.). -
Re:Activism or documentation?
I'd love to hear from someone who has a Speedtouch 330 Rev4 modem working using PPPoA either on Free/Open BSD...
I own a "Speedtouch 330 USB" rev. 2, I had it working on FreeBSD 4.10, and now on 5.3.
It's (the open source driver) pain to install, and even after it's installed it doesn't perform well under pressure.
If you run any P2P application or anything that puts heavy load on the connection (in terms of number of open connections) then be prepared for frequent disconnections, driver hanging, and a lot of ENOBUFS error messages.
My first advice would be to dump the instructions given on the FreeBSD handbook, they never worked for me. Read the documentation that comes with the driver under doc-bsd directory, that will help you better.
Also avoid initiating the ppp connection from rc.conf at startup, or you'll be seeing a lot of "where is this crappy modem???" messages. Instead use the adsl.sh.sample found in the /usr/local/etc/rc.d directory, it works better.
Also since you're using rev4, you'll need the firmware ZZZL_3.012 instead of KQD6_3.012, move that to /usr/local/libdata/mgmt.o to be able to use the startup script right away, or else you'll have to edit the former mentioned adsl.sh file.
The driver (as far as I know) was originally written for Linux then ported to BSD. The BSD maintainer doesn't own a speedtouch modem at the moment, so bsd specific tweaks are on halt.
Also I had better luck using the older driver version in the ports tree /usr/ports/net/pppoa rather than the latest version from the website.
Sadly, I'm stuck with this modem since my ISP forces it down my throat and the local market doesn't have better ethernet based alternatives. But if you do have a choice, stay as far as you can from it! -
Re:#1 rule of GUI
Reminds me of the GiFT project, a P2P client system. A single daemon program is created by the actual developers, and a library for interacting with it on a protocol. Then, other developers can create GUI, CLI, or even Web-based interfaces for it.
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If you want to watch your WMV now in linux...
It does not seem that DVD Jon has completely released his project yet, so if you are want to play WMVs in linux now, try using xine. Quote from the xine site: "...It also decodes multimedia files like AVI, MOV, WMV, and MP3 from local disk drives...". With the small collection of trailers and a few movies from lmule (it's like emule), I have not experienced one problem with xine.
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If you want to watch your WMV now in linux...
It does not seem that DVD Jon has completely released his project yet, so if you are want to play WMVs in linux now, try using xine. Quote from the xine site: "...It also decodes multimedia files like AVI, MOV, WMV, and MP3 from local disk drives...". With the small collection of trailers and a few movies from lmule (it's like emule), I have not experienced one problem with xine.
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Running EXE filesAs Holmes pointed out, we've already thought about this issue, and I think we've come up with the most reasonable solution possible. This post explains it nicely:
To clear things up once and for all: End users only need to download an installer for Blog Torrent ONCE, just as they would for any other Bit Torrent client. After that, they just download torrents. When it comes down to it, any software that's going to be doing downloading will need permission to access the local machine. The best way we can deal with this is make the user deal with the permissions issue as few times as possible in a way that they are familiar with. Giving people an EXE installer once seems to be the best way to achieve this on Windows.
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Let's write a modern 3d movie makerRemember the good ol' days of 3D MovieMaker (3dmm) from the Socrates Project?* When making 3D movies was as easy as clicking a few buttons and listening to McZee tell us to "Select your movie, and press the button!" Even a child could do it! (I know, i just watched a 3dmm movie by a very cute 7-year old relative yesterday). Unfortunately, the movies created by 3dmm now look horribly archaic to our eyes. The jagged pixal edges---my eyes!
We can do better. I've been looking into creating a new up-to-date program capable of easily creating movies. After some initial exploration, i've decided that either NeoEngine or Ogre would be a good start for the creation of an open source movie creation program. An additional help is Matthew Casperson's program to run scripted sequences in either Ogre or NeoEngine (see the OgreScript development site).
If you're interested in helping out with this endeavour (or to flame me on my choice of game engines), send me an e-mail (in my profile).
*(The Socrates Project was subsequently bought up by Microsoft, who eventually stopped development on 3dmm.)
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Re:My pet UI peeve
"The UI design failure that annoys me the most is media players that the developers obviously have spent a long time getting the user interface to look like a panel for an expensive car stereo or DVD player."
Indeed. While scrollwheels might be the best invention ever on video-players (which ironically are still notorious for being confusing to use), the worst has to be the smooth circle that every software DVD player has put on the screen. What're we supposed to do with that? Where's the play button? Why is there an "eject" button that closes the program? mplayer was one of the worst - I closed the control panel and the video I was watching disappeared. That doesn't normally happen when you put down the remote-control on a physical object.
How hard can it be? Start, stop, rewind. Windows Media Player 3 had it about right. DVD software could learn a lot from Audacity in terms of usability (not that any developers care, as far as open-source media players go)
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Re:It wont really be any good...How soon until all IM conversations are monitored by Big Brother?
You're assuming that they already aren't? Better be prepared before Big Brother catches you buying weed
;)Not that the CIA gives a shit about people selling weed online... however be really careful what you say in #al-qaeda
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And why not?!
It should be titled something like "An Alternate View" and not be preachy about open source but just show practical examples of what open-source applications are out there and how people are using them.
They could pick a SourceForge "Project-Of-The-Week" which would hopefully serve the dual purpose of helping someone find a solution and recruiting developers to bring along projects that need a bit more attention.
It wouldn't have to be the flashy projects either, simple stuff like the Meeting Room Booking System could be presented and how users have taken this and applied it to airplane bookings, class schedules, etc etc. -
Damn!
How soon until all IM conversations are monitored by Big Brother?
You mean they're not already?! Then what the hell did I download gaim-encryption for...? -
My open source barcode recognition code
I should take this opportunity to point out I've been working on an OSS project to accomplish part of what this is. Here's a demo of my UPC code recognition software for nokia series 60 phones:
http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/barcr-reader/ba rcr-alpha2-bin.zip?download
Right now it just displays the code on the screen. If you want to toy with the source, get a CVS checkout.
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Re:Project management 101GanttProject is nice. It's written in Java, so it's especially useful if you're not only using Windows. Works on Linux, works on OSX. It's the one I use. Of course it doesn't have all the features that MS Project does, but it's pretty useful for making initial drafts or working with relatively simple projects.
There's also MrProject for Linux, I don't know if there's a binary for Windows. I compiled this on Linux once and it was nice but it broke pgAdmin, I think it was some version incompatibility with GTK or something.
There are some other similar tools here. Open Workbench Is supposed to be really good, although I haven't tried it. iTeamWork is another free tool.
And finally, this is a list of some more tools.
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Re:Yup.
Check out gtkpod.
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PearPC - OS X under WIndows and Linux
I bet some of those users were not aware of the freely available PearPC project, which lets you run OS X inside both Windows and Linux.
Here are relevant PearPC and related projects:
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Re:I'd love to be one of those statistics...
This may be redundant, but have you looked recently?
Free Shipping:- 1.2GHz PowerPC G4
- 512K L2 cache @1.2GHz
- 12-inch TFT Displays
- 1024x768 resolution
- 256MB DDR266 SDRAM
- 30GB Ultra ATA drive
- CD-RW/DVD Combo Drive
- ATI Mobility Radeon 9200 w/32MB dedicateDDR video memory
- AirPort Extreme built-in
- 2 USB 2.0 ports
- 1 IEEE 1394 port
- 1 Video out port (for mirroring*)
- v.92 56k + 10/100 video
- lots of bundled software
- X11 with lots of ported software (Fink, Darwin Ports)
Cost? $999 Lower if you are a student or developer.
Build a Dell or HP with those specs, and you will find them priced similarily. You may find the Mac is less expensive.
* - but there is a hack for dual display
ps-save the coupld hundred bucks and do not go with the 14" screen. The 12" an 14" have the same resolution (and that bugs me :))
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Re:OSXScratch the surface and you'll find that OSX has no unified package management.
:(There's Fink (Debian based), Portage and DarwinPorts
Not to mention that the opendarwin 'distro' lags several versions behind the OSX build, i.e.
OS X 10.3.6 = Darwin 7.6
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Re:Follow The Money
I looked all over sourceforge for your open source MMORPG and game server, but I wasn't able to find it. Let me know when your FREE as in beer game is available.
Oh, you're not developing an alternative? You're just complain^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hsharing your wisdom? Well, maybe you could help these guys out. They're looking for a RPG Guru. =)
If you don't like that one, I counted over a dozen mmorpgs under active development on the first page of search results on sf.net using mmorpg as the search term. Knock yourself out. -
Re:Follow The Money
I looked all over sourceforge for your open source MMORPG and game server, but I wasn't able to find it. Let me know when your FREE as in beer game is available.
Oh, you're not developing an alternative? You're just complain^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hsharing your wisdom? Well, maybe you could help these guys out. They're looking for a RPG Guru. =)
If you don't like that one, I counted over a dozen mmorpgs under active development on the first page of search results on sf.net using mmorpg as the search term. Knock yourself out. -
Re:Whoa - "perfectly"? I think not.
For your wireless card you might want to check out ndiswrapper. I have a card that's not natively supported under Linux
It tries to use the Windows driver under Linux. Works perfectly for me. Good luck!
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MythTV + MediaMVP = Zero VCRs
3 months ago I put together a MythTV setup with a MediaMVP running mvpmc (http://mvpmc.sourceforge.net/). I haven't touched either of my 2 VCRs since, except to unplug one of them to free up a socket.
The VCR is indeed dead - at least in my house. -
openvpn
uses one port
open source, cross platform
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Re:Thats great
I want my Internet sense.
All I need is input (RTFA) and output.... oh, and, maybe Gaim and Mozilla plugins, and BitchX scripts.
Now, if I could throw a laptop with 802.11 and packet radio on my back, I'd be good from anywhere, until the battery died.
A laptop with two battery compartments that lets you hot-swap batteries without losing power could solve that, if I had an infinite supply of batteries.
Infinite supplies aren't too hard to come by. The backpack could charge itself from the sun and, with a crystal-radio-like method, from nearby radio sources (including power lines). And for those cold, gray days, use a many-stage thermocouple between the cold air and your warm body.
That's probably not enough power, though, if you're indoors. So, you build a little robot (Roomba-style?) to dispatch with empty batteries to charge them and come back full. The only problem is that people might notice your robot, and, err, complain about stealing power, but, that can be fixed, especially if the robot lays low, doesn't move when there's a lot of people around, sticks to dark rooms and hallways when possible, hugs walls, and moves quietly (noise cancellation helps, too). It just needs to come back when called (map memory, path-finding algorithms, homing mechanism).
Who has lots of money and free time, and feels like building something fun for me to wear?
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We are in!
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Re:TurboTax
PDF Creator will do a nice job converting to PDFs, it will be just like using a printer. Set up is easy and the price is right (its free).
You can also tweak a PS printer, Ghostscript, and Ghostview to do a kick-ass job, converting to PDFs. If properly configured, you can get better compresion levels compared to Adobe's Acrobat.
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Re:OSX
waste? redundant packages? I just installed FireFox on XandrOS, and it took 35MB. The Windows installer is 4MB. I think that Linux is the king of wasteful redundant libraries; it seems that every program wants to install its own version of some arcane widgets. Look at the big, important projects for example:
Openoffice.org 1.1.3:
Linux -- 78246 KB
Windows -- 46100 KB
FireFox 1.0:
Linux -- 8422 KB
Windows -- 4803 KB
AbiWord 2.0.12:
Linux -- 21.16MB
Windows -- 4.8MB
Clearly there's something wrong here. Only OSX binaries are even more gigantic than the Linux ones, and that's only because of the Apple RISC hardware. -
Re:OSX
You want ROX-Filer, http://rox.sourceforge.net/
See also Zero-Install http://zero-install.sourceforge.net/, a seperate but related/compatible idea that tries to simplify matters even further.
Agree with parent: this kind of packaging system makes Macs very pleasant to deal with. This doesn't solve all our problems, but it is something we should use for apps (openoffice, etc). -
Re:OSX
You want ROX-Filer, http://rox.sourceforge.net/
See also Zero-Install http://zero-install.sourceforge.net/, a seperate but related/compatible idea that tries to simplify matters even further.
Agree with parent: this kind of packaging system makes Macs very pleasant to deal with. This doesn't solve all our problems, but it is something we should use for apps (openoffice, etc).