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BrainPort Allows People To Reclaim Damaged Senses

Karma Star writes "There is a news article on a new device called a BrainPort, which is special device that is worn like a helmet, with a strip of tape containing an array of 144 microelectrodes hanging off the headset which is placed on the tongue. The BrainPort then sends signals to the tongue which are then picked up by the brain, allowing the user to regain otherwise lost sensory input. More at the NY Times (soul stealing subscription required)."

216 comments

  1. Thats great by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Can I use it to recover my sense of humour?

    1. Re:Thats great by Tablizer · · Score: 0

      Can I use it to recover my sense of humour?

      Perhaps, that is until you see your mod score :-)

    2. Re:Thats great by gmuslera · · Score: 4, Funny

      This will give a whole new meaning for bad taste jokes.

    3. Re:Thats great by plover · · Score: 1
      Especially if you've read Bruce Bethke's book, "Headcrash".

      His feedback probe didn't go on the user's tongue...

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    4. Re:Thats great by davesplace1 · · Score: 1

      You can only do that reading Slashdot :)

    5. Re:Thats great by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Can I use it to recover my sense of humour?


      Personally I'm shooting for common and irony...
    6. Re:Thats great by orangesquid · · Score: 1

      I want my Internet sense.

      All I need is input (RTFA) and output.... oh, and, maybe Gaim and Mozilla plugins, and BitchX scripts.

      Now, if I could throw a laptop with 802.11 and packet radio on my back, I'd be good from anywhere, until the battery died.

      A laptop with two battery compartments that lets you hot-swap batteries without losing power could solve that, if I had an infinite supply of batteries.

      Infinite supplies aren't too hard to come by. The backpack could charge itself from the sun and, with a crystal-radio-like method, from nearby radio sources (including power lines). And for those cold, gray days, use a many-stage thermocouple between the cold air and your warm body.

      That's probably not enough power, though, if you're indoors. So, you build a little robot (Roomba-style?) to dispatch with empty batteries to charge them and come back full. The only problem is that people might notice your robot, and, err, complain about stealing power, but, that can be fixed, especially if the robot lays low, doesn't move when there's a lot of people around, sticks to dark rooms and hallways when possible, hugs walls, and moves quietly (noise cancellation helps, too). It just needs to come back when called (map memory, path-finding algorithms, homing mechanism).

      Who has lots of money and free time, and feels like building something fun for me to wear?
      It doesn't even need to be a backpack.

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    7. Re:Thats great by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think you already have ...regained it

  2. Just one question. by TrollBridge · · Score: 5, Funny

    Can I wear it over my tin-foil hat?

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    1. Re:Just one question. by Vulcann · · Score: 1

      Wear a wet towel on you're head, eat a few salted peanuts and beer ...and whatever you do, DONT PANIC!

    2. Re:Just one question. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Can I wear it over my tin-foil hat?

      If you're smart enough to already be wearing the tinfoil hat, you should know that this new device is clearly designed for mind-control purposes.

    3. Re:Just one question. by famebait · · Score: 1

      On the serious side, it would be really interesting to see what normal-abled people could accomplish with this stuff. Sensory augmentation rather than replacement.

      They talk about simple things like pilots getting scalar instrument values. I'm thinking of adding extra channels to your normal vision or other senses: switch on additional IR, UV, radar, sonar, or polarity info on your visual field. Get eyes in your neck, maybe felt as a direct proximity field rather than imagery. Ultrasonic hearing. The possibilities are huge.

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  3. Big deal by LouCifer · · Score: 5, Funny

    Back when I was in highschool, I'd put a little piece of paper on my tounge and in about an hour I'd get the sensation of flight, could "see" sound, speak to animals and the like.

    Plus, I didnt have to wear a helmet when I dropped acid.

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    1. Re:Big deal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mod Parent Up!!... dude did you go to my school?

      funniest comment in all my time reading slashdot.. I saw sound too !

    2. Re:Big deal by BorgCopyeditor · · Score: 4, Funny
      Plus, I didnt have to wear a helmet when I dropped acid.

      No, but it might have been a good idea. :-)

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    3. Re:Big deal by pinchhazard · · Score: 0

      You've heard of the Moth song "I See Sound"? It's fuckin rad!

      And about acid.

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    4. Re:Big deal by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      Which former or current president are you?

    5. Re:Big deal by StikyPad · · Score: 1

      K-RAD!! Anything about drugs is just fkin cool by definition!!!!1111 PMG

      Drugs are like roller coasters. Exciting the first time, but nothing new.. get over it.

  4. Confused senses by freeze128 · · Score: 5, Funny

    This music tastes Great!

    1. Re:Confused senses by igny · · Score: 3, Informative

      Synaesthesia is quite common actually.

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    2. Re:Confused senses by eheldreth · · Score: 1

      I tasted music once. Then I came down and havn't touched LSD since.

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    3. Re:Confused senses by mforbes · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I'm a synaesthete myself, which is why I never tried any of the hallucinogenics-- I was always afraid I'd lose that wonderful crossing of the senses that I so enjoy.

      I'm fortunate that my case is very mild; if it hadn't been for a number of conversations in early adolescence where I tried to describe something using adjectives that made perfect sense to me but not to others, I would never have known I'm different. In high school orchestra, most of the other kids could understand when I'd describe the sound of a viola as warm, or a piccolo as cold... but they'd have no idea what I meant when I started describing the grain of the viola sound (looks a lot like highly-polished oak under a tungsten lamp), or the brilliant white light of a b# played in second position on a violin's E string.

      I read years ago in the Washington Post about a case of a fellow who was much more severely affected than I. Instead of seeing the sounds overlayed on the 'normal' visual field, and being able to easily distinguish what was seen with the eyes vs what was seen through hearing, his senses were so crosswired that this was no longer possible. The anecdote given in the story was that he stopped to buy something from a street vendor (ice cream, I think). But when the vendor spoke, his voice looked to the synaesthete like charcoal bricks falling out of the guy's mouth. The article said he hadn't been able to eat ice cream (or whatever the food was) since then. Like I said, I'm fortunate. My symptoms are thoroughly enjoyable & have never presented problems like that.

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    4. Re:Confused senses by sehryan · · Score: 2, Funny

      Shhhh...you smell something?

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    5. Re:Confused senses by gracenix · · Score: 0

      No, it's less filling...

    6. Re:Confused senses by mikael · · Score: 1

      But best to avoid bad reviews from fans - they taste awful!

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    7. Re:Confused senses by isometrick · · Score: 1

      As a musician and classical violinist I have to wonder why the B# played in second position on the E string differs from 1) the simpler notation of C for the same note as B# or 2) the same C/B# played in third, fourth, or fifth position.

      I think a lot of people can associate imagery with music; for what purpose do you think compositions like Vivaldi's Four Seasons and Prokofiev's Peter and the Wolf exist?

      I call B.S. on this unless you have a serious complex. I also think that the use of verbiage like "b# played in the second position on a violin's E string" is pure rhetoric to attract attention and/or moderation. Ah, well. Whatever floats your boat.

      I challenge you: I'll make some recordings of the same note played different ways, and you have to tell me which version each recording represents. It's kind of like Randi's paranormal challenge. Prove me wrong.

    8. Re:Confused senses by cheese_wallet · · Score: 1

      but they'd have no idea what I meant when I started describing the grain of the viola sound (looks a lot like highly-polished oak under a tungsten lamp), or the brilliant white light of a b# played in second position on a violin's E string.


      At the risk of sounding like the Aspies over on kuro5hin, I'll make the comment that I have had similar experiences. I frequently perceive pain as sound, and sometimes color as well. I do sometimes see a color with certain sounds.

      I assumed, and still do, that everyone is like this to some degree. Perhaps not everyone notices though.

    9. Re:Confused senses by cheese_wallet · · Score: 1

      As a musician and classical violinist I have to wonder why the B# played in second position on the E string differs from 1) the simpler notation of C for the same note as B#

      It depends on the key the music is in, right? I mean, yeah, B# and C are the same note, but the notation depends on the key. The key of C# has a B# and the key of F# has an E#, if I'm not mistaken.

      I guess with the context of his message, we can't tell if he meant a B# as a part of a song, or by itself.

    10. Re:Confused senses by isometrick · · Score: 1

      Yep, you're right about the notation bit. The same note in different contexts can sound differently. They are, however, still the same note ... and it doesn't remove the question about the position. All signs still point to rhetoric for me.

    11. Re:Confused senses by Leibherk · · Score: 2, Funny

      Turn on the light I cant hear!

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    12. Re:Confused senses by meabolex · · Score: 1

      IANAV, but. . .

      It could be that the timbre of the different strings gives the note a different feel (a leading tone in the case of B#) versus a standard C position. It also might involve the positioning of the fingers in relation to the C#/Db scale. I assume you play B# the same as C in a Db scale?

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    13. Re:Confused senses by omeomi · · Score: 3, Informative

      I call B.S. on this unless you have a serious complex.

      While I have no idea if this guy is telling the truth about his own condition, "synesthesia" is a real neurological condition. It can be brought on by drugs, such as LSD, or it can occur naturally...

      http://web.mit.edu/synesthesia/www/synesthesia.htm l

    14. Re:Confused senses by vidarh · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Your questions about musical technicalities aside, since I know little about music theory (though I'd assume specifically using B# instead of C reflects the different role of the note in whatever piece of music the previous poster was thinking off), you miss the point entirely. This is not about "associating imagery with music".

      When most people "associate imagery" with music, that is exactly what we do - we connect some image that seems suitable, with the music, coloured by our experiences, what we know about the music etc.

      When someone with synesthesia see a colour when they hear a note, that is exactly what it means, and that colour is tied to that specific note irrespective of experience, memory etc.

      The images I associate with a piece of music change all the time depending on whether I perhaps learn something else about the music, or have an experience related to the music or thousands of other reasons.

      The colours someone who "sees music" as a result of synesthesia experience normally stays the same throughout life, and are equivalent of the experience of seeing, not of association or "picturing" something.

    15. Re:Confused senses by mforbes · · Score: 4, Interesting

      You're absolutely right about calling B# & C the same thing-- I don't know what the heck I was thinking about. This just goes to show how out of practice I am at playing (and reading!) music for my viola.

      Anyway, I'm interested in your challenge, but I don't understand what you mean by 'You have to tell me which version each recording represents'. As you pointed out, C and B# are the same thing. As far as finger position, I don't really care if it's fourth-finger in 1st position or 1st finger in 3rd position, it's still the same note with the same color and shape. No, I wouldn't be able to tell the difference. I don't claim to have perfect pitch-- or anywhere near it, for that matter, which is why I never went beyond high school orchestra.

      As much as I love Vivaldi's Four Seasons, particularly the Presto from Summer, I can't really agree that the compositions you mention are visual at all. Beethoven's Egmont Overture has moments where it's extremely visual, but not those two.

      Interestingly, one bit of music that always has the same visual dynamics for me isn't classical at all. It's Genesis' The Brazillian (the last track on Invisible Touch). I've tried to paint it and/or draw it a few times, but lack the talent to do so properly; the only description I can give of it is that it has the dynamics of a water show with the speed and versatility of a laser-light show. Listen to it some time when you have a spare three minutes (about all the time it takes to play it). There are certain auditory cues in the track that I actually see-- a synthetic drum playing a sound that I can only describe as looking like Edgerton's frozen milk-drop photograph, for instance (except not frozen in this case, just slow-motioned).

      I have no ability to prove you wrong in your challenge that I see sounds. You have no way to prove me wrong when I assert that you see the color blue the same way I see the color red. So, how many angels can dance on the head of a pin?

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    16. Re:Confused senses by isometrick · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      "You have no way to prove me wrong when I assert that you see the color blue the same way I see the color red. So, how many angels can dance on the head of a pin?" Fair enough. All arguments must stop at the axioms, good day to you!

    17. Re:Confused senses by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, it's just you. Sounds harmless enough, but definitely not normal.

    18. Re:Confused senses by Gordonjcp · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I get this with rhythms. I can remember *always* hearing little tunes and rhythms as I watched moving things, and I was amazed to discover that *not everyone gets this*. When I was about four or five, I didn't like a particular piece of road because the telephone poles, normally an exact distance apart giving a nice steady rhythm, had been replaced *very* slightly out - perhaps about a foot or so - causing a funny jarring little cross-rhythm.

    19. Re:Confused senses by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Brings to mind the Moody Blues' Departure:
      Be it sight, sound, smell, or touch,
      There's something inside, that we need so much.
      The sight of a touch, or the scent of a sound,
      Or the strength of an oak, with roots deep in the ground.
      The wonder of flowers, to be covered, and then to burst up,
      Through tarmac, to the sun again, or to fly to the sun
      Without burning a wing; to lie in a meadow
      And hear the grass sing; to have all these things
      In our memory's hoard, and to use them,
      To help us, to find......

      I have long thought it would be interesting to be able to perceive this way, but now think that one would have to have some knowledgeable training to be easily able to cope with it...

    20. Re:Confused senses by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, B# and C will be slightly different frequencies on a string instrument, since the different names connote being played in different keys, and the notes in a key are not equally spaced, and a string player will keep them in tune instinctively. Do some reading on "just intonation" and "equal temperament". But unless he can see perfect pitch as well, it would vary more from the tuning of the orchestra than the temperament and key being played in.

      Also the overtones and such vary depending on which string you play the same note. (Stiffness of the strings, etc.) But shouldn't vary when being played in the same place on the same string but with different fingers. So I doubt he could sense the position without looking at the fingers.

    21. Re:Confused senses by RJack-45 · · Score: 0

      Sure, on a piano, they are the same note... but that's only because the notes on a piano are "locked down"... I think they called this "well tempered tuning". It's a compromise to make all chords played on the piano sound good.
      With wind and string instruments, you have to play the position sharper or flatter, depending on the chord.

    22. Re:Confused senses by pkhuong · · Score: 1

      But the same note (B#) is the same note (B#).

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    23. Re:Confused senses by Mattcelt · · Score: 1

      Yes, and no. There is a marked difference with stringed instruments between notes of the same pitch (i.e., the same Hz) which are played on different strings. This has to do with the timbre of the note.

      The strings of most instruments have different diameters for each string, and all are wound differently; ainsi even at the same pitch (b#)and amplitude (volume) the sound can change.

      The smaller diameter (higher pitched) strings on a violin produce fewer complex overtones, even for an identical pitch, than do the larger diameter strings. Therefore an A# elicited from the E string will have a more "pure" sound than that from the A string.

      I believe this is what our synaesthetic friend was alluding to.

    24. Re:Confused senses by Janek+Kozicki · · Score: 1
      in my reply to this /. article I wanted to write something like: "cool, I want a 800x600 b/w eye on may back, so I will see in infrared, x-ray, or just connect this eye to my very-small-and-portable-laptop",

      but you raise a very interesting topic:

      Interestingly, one bit of music that always has the same visual dynamics for me isn't classical at all. It's Genesis' The Brazillian (the last track on Invisible Touch)

      I'm downloading this right now (via mldonkey ;) - I should have it tommorow.

      In fact I'm not a synaesthete, but I guess I always wanted to :) When I had time (it means - 6 years ago, or such) I loved to listen to music while in darkness. Then I forced my brain to create images inspired by this music. If succesfull I ended with a complete videoclip (genereted by my brain) that was inspired by the music I heard. Still I try to do that everytime I go to a classical music concert (not too often tough - once a year maybe).

      The important thing is that everytime I listen to the same compostion (same CD to be more precise) - I end up with a very similar videoclip. My best artist for that is Mike Oldfield. Still (after many years) I have in my mind frames of that videoclip created by "Ommadawn" - medieval knights on horses fighting each other on a big battlefield full of other (less important) people fighting with swords and lances. If you start to listen "part I" of Ommandawn you may see that it all starts on a wheat field. After few minutes you will see a heavy accent of walking fighters which later will be replaced by lightweight dancing dryads. (that's how it works for me).

      I have even written down a full story which was generated by "Crises" (Mike Oldfield) I'll just have to translate it to english, and you then could compare if your experience is somehow similar.

      For example I remember that a short (0.2 second) violin accent on the right, was a frog jumping off the road (to the right :). The hero of my videoclip was walking down the road inside a forest, that time.

      just after I get "anything she does" (the last track on Invisible Touch) I'll listen with great pleasure. And I'll try to dig up my written memories of "Crises" and translate them to english (but this process may unfortunately take more than a week - since I don't have that much time now, that I had years ago :>). If you want to wait for that - I think it's better if I write it in my journal, then put a note here, so you'll quickly find it out.

      and thank you for your post. You had just reminded me about "lost treasures of the past" that I had almost forgotten because of all the busy life I have now (child, wife, work, etc.. ). I only missed that from time to time, now - it's time to revive old memories, and have pleasent listening time - once again ! ;)

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    25. Re:Confused senses by plover · · Score: 2, Funny
      "I frequently perceive pain as sound,"

      And I frequently perceive sound as pain, especially when it's Gangsta Rap or Country & Western.

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    26. Re:Confused senses by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think our dear mods are modding the quote instead of the response. Get with the program, mods!

    27. Re:Confused senses by Anonym1ty · · Score: 1

      There is also a difference of some notes that ought to be the same. This is based on the temperamant of the tuning.

      A piano normally uses Equal Temperament Tuning. In this case an A# and a Bb are the same note. This is not the case with the tuning of other instruments and many attempts have been made to deal with this. There are pianos that have the black key for A# /Bb actually split in two (front and back) to try and deal with this.

      Other tuning temporaments have also been developed, such as mean-tone temporament. Basically they are slight changes in the tuning intervals between the notes.

      Basically trying to preserve the intervals of octaves and fifths and seventh or thirds - Equal temporament is kind of a compromise, equal isn't always the best solution to make the best sound, but it can be the easiest solution to make an acceptably good sound on many different instruments... It's easier for a guitar player or a violinist to make it sound closer to equal temporament when played than it is to retune a piano everytime you change the key you are playing in.

      So depending on the temporament of an instrument you can't always really get away with simply transposing into another key, some times it realy won't sound quite right.

    28. Re:Confused senses by TheLittleJetson · · Score: 1

      I'm a synaesthete myself, which is why I never tried any of the hallucinogenics

      LUCKY! I'm a normal dude, so that's exactly why I did a lot of acid in high school. I got visual feedback for sense of touch, very strange. Good times though.

    29. Re:Confused senses by pkhuong · · Score: 1

      But then, using equal temperament on normal intruments is a sick travesty :)

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    30. Re:Confused senses by G-funk · · Score: 1

      I always loved that line :)

      That movie frightens me tho, coz even now, I watch it, and somehow, they made sigourney weaver attractive. Nothing scares a man like being attracted to sigourney weaver...

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    31. Re:Confused senses by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As a musician, I feel obliged to point out that B# and C are not the same thing at all. Under most circumstances (on an even-tempered instrument, i.e. piano) they are they same pitch, but not the same note. If this were some hypothetical melody line in A Major (in which occasion either note is a chromatic alteration), the B# by voice-leading rules leads up, the C natural down. The pitch is the same, but the function is different - so to call them the same is somewhat in error.

      Sorry to knitpick.

    32. Re:Confused senses by ajna · · Score: 1
      As a musician and classical violinist I have to wonder why the B# played in second position on the E string differs from 1) the simpler notation of C for the same note as B# or 2) the same C/B# played in third, fourth, or fifth position.

      As others have noted, B# and C may well not be the same note, depending on the key. For example, C as the mediant in the context of A flat major should be about 15 cents below an even tempered "C", while B sharp as the leading tone in the context of C sharp major would be a few cents above an even tempered "C". This distinction, while seemingly trivial, is huge, as it dictates whether resultant tones between notes of the same chord are also notes within the chord, or discordant notes.

      And yes, I care about this, and so should you if you take intonation seriously. The difference between a "bright" major third (with an even tempered mediant) and an in-tune one (with the mediant properly lowered ~15 cents) is amazing.
    33. Re:Confused senses by igny · · Score: 1

      You never know what hits the fans next time.

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    34. Re:Confused senses by Anonym1ty · · Score: 1

      But then, using equal temperament on normal intruments is a sick travesty :)

      Well yes it is... unless those instruments are playing with another instrument that is better off in equal temporament.... It can be worse sometimes to play several different instruments together at the same time all in their own temporaments.

  5. Mmmmm by skraps · · Score: 2, Funny

    This story tastes delicious.

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    1. Re:Mmmmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Aaargh. Don't look at the sun!

      ouch..

    2. Re:Mmmmm by maxwell+demon · · Score: 1

      You think so? I think the beginning was a bit salty. And the end could have had a bit more curry.

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    3. Re:Mmmmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Did you actually even TTFA?

    4. Re:Mmmmm by skraps · · Score: 1
      Did you actually even TTFA?
      I don't know what "TTFA" means.. did they explain that in the article?
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    5. Re:Mmmmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      TTFA: Taste The Fucking Article

  6. Bug Me Not! by FortKnox · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    More at the NY Times (soul stealing subscription required)

    For crying out loud, people... Slashdot should be the source of the bugmenot craze. You don't need to worry about subscriptions when you have it. And it has a firefox plugin to make it EVEN EASIER!

    Wait... is this just something 'cool' to say, like putting a $ in Microsoft? Cause... in that case... YOUR AN IDIOT. :-P

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  7. Yes but by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 3, Interesting

    What if you lost your sense of taste?

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    1. Re:Yes but by mfender9 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Well, then you'd just spend your life watching Julia Roberts movies and not worry about it...

    2. Re:Yes but by over_exposed · · Score: 2, Informative

      This doesn't use taste, it uses electrical impulses. As long as you still have feeling on your tongue, you're ok. Well, you're not necessarily ok, but you are able to use this apparatus. If you lose feeling in your tongue, this technology has been proven with sensors on subject's backs, chests, and foreheads.

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    3. Re:Yes but by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or reading Slashdot...

  8. I hope they have a good attorney by dr_dank · · Score: 2, Funny
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    1. Re:I hope they have a good attorney by clandaith · · Score: 1

      No no no. The prior art that you list is the opposite of what they are striving for.

      They want a hat that helps you regain your senses. The prior art you list is a hat that helps you LOSE your senses.

    2. Re:I hope they have a good attorney by pz · · Score: 1

      IAAVN (I am a visual neuroscientist, and that's TWICE in one week I've been able to say that on Slashdot!), and happen to have done extensive patent research on this very subject.

      There *is* prior art, but a good lawyer should be able to argue around it. In one example, visual sensations of auditory input (ie, sound) were generated by applying electrical stimulation to the outside of the head. Reading through the patent, and surmising how much external electrical stimulation it takes to create an effect inside the skull, one has to wonder if these folks were, ah, a little less concerned about their health and well-being than most. Here's a link to the USPTO.

      http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1= PT O1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=/netahtml/srchnum.htm &r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=4,664,117.WKU.&OS=PN/4,664,117&RS =PN/4,664,117

      (If that gets garbled, the patent number is 4,664,117.)

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  9. Of course... by The-Bus · · Score: 1

    the tinfoil lining is included! For the new ReynoldsHT Extreme X-Wrap XP, you need to pay another $79.95.

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    Small potatoes make the steak look bigger.

  10. For crying out loud... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Wait... is this just something 'cool' to say, like putting a $ in Microsoft? Cause... in that case... YOUR AN IDIOT. :-P

    Yes, YOU'RE an idiot.

  11. Sure, you get your senses back by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But you need to walk around wearing a helmet and have shit in your tongue. I'm all for the progress of science, but you're making these people look like they just returned from a mission to Neptune or something.

    Not to troll, just an observation.

    1. Re:Sure, you get your senses back by Bellyflop · · Score: 1

      I think a lot of blind people would prefer being forced to wear a funny helmet and be able to see to being blind. Sounds like a great deal, especially since it doesn't seem to require any sort of exotic surgery.

  12. This reminds me... by mark-t · · Score: 2, Funny

    The textual description of this... "The strip was wired to a kind of carpenter's level, which was mounted on a hard hat that she placed on her head...". for some reason, the image that unavoidably comes to mind is that of Doctor Who's classic Cybermen.

    1. Re:This reminds me... by plover · · Score: 2, Funny
      You're lucky. The images this reminds me of are more like Mr. Garrison's "Segway" invention (on South Park, just before the release of the "real" Segway.)

      It was controlled by a "probe".

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  13. Already exists by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 5, Funny

    A two-electrode version of this device exists in the form of licking 9V batteries, to give users the sense of whether 9V batteries are dead. It also works to test the main I hear...

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    1. Re:Already exists by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      It tastes like... burning.

    2. Re:Already exists by skraps · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Apparently, people have had these things for a long time.
      • "This program is sweet"
      • "You are a very bitter person"
      • "Your work is tasteless"
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    3. Re:Already exists by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      re: Licking 9V batteries...I'm glad someone else does this also. Unfortunately, that habit developed decades ago in my teen years has always been reliable and this past year I tested a garage door remote battery (very small) by popping it in my mouth. I guess the amperage was a bit different because I immediately regretted it as my world lit up (I guess my pupils dialated a bunch) and my mouth convulsed violently.
      Holy crap...I will never ever test a battery that way again.

    4. Re:Already exists by BarryJacobsen · · Score: 2, Funny

      A two-electrode version of this device exists in the form of licking 9V batteries, to give users the sense of whether 9V batteries are dead.

      Yes, but if unreliable internet sources have taught me anything, it's that 3 people die each year from trying this! That's almost as scary as this hydrogen dioxide problem!

    5. Re:Already exists by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's almost as scary as this hydrogen dioxide problem!

      HO2??

      Or do you mean dihydrogen monoxyde?

    6. Re:Already exists by jbridge21 · · Score: 1

      Never stick your tongue in a socket. The taste of power is too refined for you.

  14. Taste by jedaustin · · Score: 3, Interesting

    What if Im missing my sense of taste?

    Im sure having some gadget sticking in your mouth and a huge helmet on your head would make you a hit with the ladies too!

    Seriously though.. I could see applications for this.
    Picture this:
    Fighter helmet with mouth piece that sits against the pilots tongue. When the computer detects a threat it can stimulate the pilots tongue in relation to the direction and distance of the target. After a little training this sort of thing would really increase reaction time.
    Though it would make a conversation with the tower a bit tough :)

    1. Re:Taste by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 3, Funny

      When the computer detects a threat it can stimulate the pilots tongue in relation to the direction and distance of the target.

      What would it taste of?

      Normal day: "Mmmmmmm beer"

      Real emergency: "EWWWWW SPROUTS!!! GET ME OUT OF HERE!"

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    2. Re:Taste by CheechBG · · Score: 0, Troll

      I don't usually troll, but that is the stupidest idea I have never heard.

    3. Re:Taste by over_exposed · · Score: 1

      Damnit - that should have read "See here

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    4. Re:Taste by Tackhead · · Score: 5, Funny
      > Picture this:
      >
      > Fighter helmet with mouth piece that sits against the pilots tongue. When the computer detects a threat it can stimulate the pilots tongue in relation to the direction and distance of the target. After a little training this sort of thing would really increase reaction time.
      >
      > Though it would make a conversation with the tower a bit tough :)

      You must taste... in Russian!

      In Thoviat Rutthia, Firefoth flieth thoo?

      "Thyre rearwurdth mitthile, dammit!"
      [nothing happens]
      "Mmmmm.... Borscht!"
      [*KABOOM*, second Firefox burninated]
      "Better ithe up a cold one boyth, I'th comin' home!"

    5. Re:Taste by thebudgie · · Score: 1
      Don't know about you, but if I were a fighter pilot I'd be looking to decrease my reaction time ;-)

    6. Re:Taste by IceAgeComing · · Score: 1

      The device supplies vibrational feedback. Basically, if there is an oval object in front of the viewer, an oval-shaped buzzing is felt on the tongue. The tongue is apparently sensitive enough to distinguish from a 20x20 array of pixels.

    7. Re:Taste by karnal · · Score: 2, Funny

      I just licked my monitor. My tongue couldn't read your post, though....

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    8. Re:Taste by bd32322 · · Score: 1
      On a related note: the article talks about pilots regaining their sense of balance when the horizon is not visible. Unfortunately this is not true.

      The assumption here is that the balance organs in the ear will substitute for the lost visual cues. But the balance organs are the least trustworthy because they are affected by forces in the aircraft (banking the wings or speeding up or pitching the nose up or down). For example, after a prolonged climb in zero visibility, leveling the aircraft produces the sensation that one is tumbling down. Another example: after a long shallow left turn, levelling the aircraft produces the sensation of a sharp bank in the other direction.

      This happens because of the way the balance organs in the ear work. Heres a link to the workings of the vestibular system and pilot illusions.: www.aopa.org/asf/publications/sa17.pdf

    9. Re:Taste by bd32322 · · Score: 1
      right after i posted I realized my assumption of substituting visual cues with balance cues is wrong. Visual cues can be substituted with cockpit instrumentation signals.. but then it wont be very nice when the instrument fails and you need to ignore the faulty instrument. Besides the pilot can see the instrument anyway.

      Brr.. just a bad application of the brain port I suppose.

    10. Re:Taste by secretsquirel · · Score: 0

      Can't wait to see what kind of perverted things that gets modded into.

  15. Helmet by ValuJet · · Score: 0

    Is it a hockey helmet?

    1. Re:Helmet by Bob+McCown · · Score: 1

      Don't ever trust a fellow with a helmet on his head.

  16. Tastes Great by RealProgrammer · · Score: 2, Funny

    Less filling!

    But you'll still be stuck in engineering while a guy with a positronic brain gets all the action.

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  17. Obligatory... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I for one welcome our Jamie Oliver overlord.

  18. The only problem with this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Everything either feels, tastes, or smells like chicken.

    1. Re:The only problem with this by Tablizer · · Score: 3, Funny

      Everything either feels, tastes, or smells like chicken.

      Dude, we DON'T want to hear about your porn preferences

    2. Re:The only problem with this by igny · · Score: 4, Funny

      Some people also sound, look and post like chicken.

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    3. Re:The only problem with this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, if an egg can fit in there, why can't I?

    4. Re:The only problem with this by Rufus88 · · Score: 2, Funny

      From parent's sig:

      In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is. - Yogi Berra

      In theory, there is no difference between Yogi Berra and Albert Einstein. In practice, there is.

    5. Re:The only problem with this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I resemble that remark, you Insensitive Clod!

  19. Just one additional question. by 2names · · Score: 1
    Can they attach it to my...

    Nevermind.

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  20. Re:NYT Article Text by un1xl0ser · · Score: 5, Informative

    For people buy into that paragraph bullshit.

    New Tools to Help Patients Reclaim Damaged Senses
    By SANDRA BLAKESLEE

    Published: November 23, 2004

    Cheryl Schiltz vividly recalls the morning she became a wobbler. Seven years ago, recovering from an infection after surgery with the aid of a common antibiotic, she climbed out of bed feeling pretty good.

    "Then I literally fell to the floor," she said recently. "The whole world started wobbling. When I turned my head, the room tilted. My vision blurred. Even the air felt heavy."

    The antibiotic, Ms. Schiltz learned, had damaged her vestibular system, the part of the brain that provides visual and gravitational stability. She was forced to quit her job and stay home, clinging to the walls to keep from toppling over.

    But three years ago, Ms. Schiltz volunteered for an experimental treatment - a fat strip of tape, placed on her tongue, with an array of 144 microelectrodes about the size of a postage stamp. The strip was wired to a kind of carpenter's level, which was mounted on a hard hat that she placed on her head. The level determined her spatial coordinates and sent the information as tiny pulses to her tongue.

    The apparatus, called a BrainPort, worked beautifully. By "buzzing" her tongue once a day for 20 minutes, keeping the pulses centered, she regained normal vestibular function and was able to balance.

    Ms. Schiltz and other patients like her are the beneficiaries of an astonishing new technology that allows one set of sensory information to substitute for another in the brain.

    Using novel electronic aids, vision can be represented on the skin, tongue or through the ears. If the sense of touch is gone from one part of the body, it can be routed to an area where touch sensations are intact. Pilots confused by foggy conditions, in which the horizon disappears, can right their aircraft by monitoring sensations on the tongue or trunk. Surgeons can feel on their tongues the tip of a probe inside a patient's body, enabling precise movements.

    Sensory substitution is not new. Touch substitutes for vision when people read Braille. By tapping a cane, a blind person perceives a step, a curb or a puddle of water but is not aware of any sensation in the hand; feeling is experienced at the tip of the cane.

    But the technology for swapping sensory information is largely the effort of Dr. Paul Bach-y-Rita, a neuroscientist in the University of Wisconsin Medical School's orthopedics and rehabilitation department. More than 30 years ago, Dr. Bach-y-Rita developed the first sensory substitution device, routing visual images, via a head-mounted camera, to electrodes taped to the skin on people's backs. The subjects, he found, could "see" large objects and flickering candles with their backs. The tongue, sensitive and easy to reach, turned out to be an even better place to deliver substitute senses, Dr. Bach-y-Rita said.

    Until recently sensory substitution was confined to the laboratory. But electronic miniaturization and more powerful computer algorithms are making the technology less cumbersome. Next month, the first fully portable device will be tested in Dr. Bach-y-Rita's lab.

    The BrainPort is nearing commercialization. Two years ago, the University of Wisconsin patented the concept and exclusively licensed it to Wicab Inc., a company formed by Dr. Bach-y-Rita to develop and market BrainPort devices. Robert Beckman, the company president, said units should be available a year from now.

    Meanwhile, a handful of clinicians around the world who are using the BrainPort on an experimental basis are effusive about its promise.

    "I have never seen any other device do what this one does," said Dr. F. Owen Black, an expert on vestibular disorders at the Legacy Clinical Research and Technology Center in Portland, Ore. "Our patients are begging us to continue using the device."

    Dr. Maurice Ptito, a neuroscientist at University of Montreal School of Optometry, is conducting bra

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  21. Oh dear by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 2, Funny

    From the article:

    Surgeons can feel on their tongues the tip of a probe inside a patient's body, enabling precise movements.

    A whole new range of experiences for surgeons performing coloscopies, no doubt.

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    1. Re:Oh dear by Tap-Sa · · Score: 1

      in the news soon: 'BrainPorted' specula becomes a huge hit among male gynecologists. Reports indicate customers like it too...

    2. Re:Oh dear by StikyPad · · Score: 1

      Not to mention gynecologists...

  22. I alwedy haf one of fese. by eric2hill · · Score: 4, Funny

    Fey work gweaf an I can feel ftuff I nefer fought I could!

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    1. Re:I alwedy haf one of fese. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't think you're supposed to put them on your fingers.

  23. Summary: sensory substitution by RedLaggedTeut · · Score: 4, Informative

    Here's a basic summary, in case the site gets slashdotted or in case you lost your senses of reading:

    The method used is called sensory substitution.
    That is, one sense can be used to emulate the input that is usually provided by another sense. The tongue is one of the best places for input.

    You have to wear the substitution device for it to work, although it is speculated that by training the brain areas for the lost sense, the working of that area can be improved, so it just might help restore a sense in the situation where the organ not working is parts of the brain.

    I'd like to add that I heard blind people can go mad when you try to feed them visual stimuli through the eye nerves, probably because these brain parts have taken on other roles. I'd therefore like to suggest that babies born blind are provided with artificial visual stimuli, so that this part of the brain learns to work and can later operate fully, when there is the technology to provide fully working artificial eyes.

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    1. Re:Summary: sensory substitution by lobsterGun · · Score: 1
      I'd like to add that I heard blind people can go mad when you try to feed them visual stimuli through the eye nerves...


      This is incorrect. Research has shown that the optic nerve can be directly stimulated to produce simple images.

      On a related note, direct overstimulation of the optic nerve can result in siezures. This may be what you heard.
    2. Re:Summary: sensory substitution by Elwood+P+Dowd · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      I'd like to add that I heard blind people can go mad when you try to feed them visual stimuli through the eye nerves, probably because these brain parts have taken on other roles.

      The occipital lobe (visual cortex) in congenitally blind people is used for other purposes. Dunno what the hell you mean by "go mad", but I also doubt that those implants would work for them like it would for someone who loses sight as an adult.

      I'd therefore like to suggest that babies born blind are provided with artificial visual stimuli, so that this part of the brain learns to work and can later operate fully, when there is the technology to provide fully working artificial eyes.

      Congenitally blind people use their occipital lobe for other purposes. Somehow I don't think we're anywhere near figuring out a better use for it. Your idea is colossally stupid.

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    3. Re:Summary: sensory substitution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just because you can say "occipital lobe" does not make you smart.
      The ignorance of others does not make you smart either.
      Calling this idea "colossally stupid" is going too far. They may just not have the understanding your profess to have.

    4. Re:Summary: sensory substitution by Idarubicin · · Score: 1
      The tongue is one of the best places for input.

      Is there anyone else here who immediately thought, "Yeah, he's right. I had tortellini for lunch, and it wouldn't have tasted as good anywhere else...."

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    5. Re:Summary: sensory substitution by Elwood+P+Dowd · · Score: 1

      Just because you can say "occipital lobe" does not make you smart.

      I haven't you given any evidence that I think otherwise.

      The ignorance of others does not make you smart either.

      I don't know why you're bringing this up. I'm only talking about his ignorance, aren't I?

      Calling this idea "colossally stupid" is going too far. They may just not have the understanding your profess to have.

      The way he frames his suggestion seems to assume understanding that I definitely do not profess to have. That's why I considered it colossally stupid. I stand by that assertion.

      Anyway, I'm modded flamebait now. Apparently someone agrees with you.

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  24. Good technology looking for a home? by FluffyPanda · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It seems like a great breakthrough for the poor woman who lost her sense of balance, but the suggested uses?

    Pilots confused by foggy conditions, in which the horizon disappears, can right their aircraft by monitoring sensations on the tongue or trunk. Surgeons can feel on their tongues the tip of a probe inside a patient's body, enabling precise movements

    Sounds to me like an able bodied pilot or surgeon could just use the senses they already use. The pilot could still use the visual readout of the artificial horizon for example.

    Is this really destined for common usage?

    1. Re:Good technology looking for a home? by nospmiS+remoH · · Score: 1

      Surgeons can feel on their tongues the tip of a probe inside a patient's body, enabling precise movements

      So one sneeze by the surgeon and the poor patients liver is made into pate?

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    2. Re:Good technology looking for a home? by PaschalNee · · Score: 1
      Is this really destined for common usage?

      The article highlights the possibilities for blind people to regain some of their senses (There's a similar project focusing on allowing blind and deaf people 'see' and 'hear' though their tongues.)
      So maybe not common usage but not as far out as some of the other examples given.
    3. Re:Good technology looking for a home? by thinkstoomuch · · Score: 1

      The surgeon example is very relevant - a surgeon is going to have a hard time using their existing senses when the probe has been inserted via a leg vein and is now inside the heart. I'd rather the surgeon gained an extra sense for that occasion than opened me up to get his hands inside! Direct tactile feedback isn't possible since the instrument isn't controlled with an interface the shape/size of the probe. This new technology, while stimulating the tongue, leads to the brain interpreting it in the most relevant way, so if they're right, after some training, the sensations are "felt" wherever is most sensible for the surgeon.

      For the pilot example, the pilot would no longer need to check the admittedly effective horizon meter - he would gain an extra sense of the horizon directly, freeing him to concentrate on the other controls. Presumably this would feel far more intuitive than glancing at the meter periodically.

      Now, I'm not so sure a tongue interface is destined for common usage, because it interferes with talking and eating! But they also mention using the forehead. Dorky looking, but more practical.

  25. BugMeNot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    soul stealing subscription required

    http://bugmenot.com/

  26. You just know.... by leereyno · · Score: 4, Funny

    That someone is going to apply this to their nether-regions, if they haven't already.

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    1. Re:You just know.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You could have sex with everyone you see and they'd never know it. Sweet.

  27. Great but.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Instead of on the tounge, can we stick the pad to.. uhmm.. other places?

  28. Ralph says by WoodenRobot · · Score: 4, Funny

    "It tastes like ... burning"

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  29. Eyes in the back of my head by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    So could you put a a camera on and face it backwards ? you could have eyes in the back of your head... but wouldent that get in the way of your current vision ?

  30. What's next.....? by invisik · · Score: 1

    The latest product from the makers of Viagra....

    -m

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  31. More info by Sai+Babu · · Score: 3, Informative

    Older version of tongue interface.

    University of Montreal news release

    But wait, there's more cooler brain interfacing going on! Mystic Visions

    I see, in the very near future, big wads of $100 bills moving into my pocket from users of the APE(TM) helmet. A Psychedelic Experience! Users don the APE helmet and the core moderating frequencies of the brain are modulated to produce everything from the mystic experience (sans the nasty side effects of peyote, psylocibin, or X) to a full blown emulation of a trip on the finest of Dr. Hofmann's concotions.

    Franchise options available NOW!

    1. Re:More info by RM6f9 · · Score: 1

      Okay - this helmet actually exists already? LS machines are so last century...

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  32. Sensory Prosthetics by delta_avi_delta · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I hope that this leads the way to sensory prosthetics. People are looking into ways to directly control prosthetics using signals from the brain, but a major difficulty for people with prosthetics is how to use a limb that has no sensory output whatsoever. Anyone who has ever had their leg "fall asleep" on them, and tried to walk it off will begin to appreciate the difficulties involved.

  33. Obvious Application by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Adult industry. Movie comes with sensory data - now you can feel the action!

  34. Smellovision by TheLoneCabbage · · Score: 1


    You realize of course that this puts us one step closer to Smell-O-Vision.

    Of course the pottential for abuse seems even greater with Taste-O-Vision.

    1. Re:Smellovision by frankvl · · Score: 1

      Pr0n will pick this up someday

      And we'll be able to taste Alyx in Half-life 3!

    2. Re:Smellovision by nospmiS+remoH · · Score: 1

      Two innovations I prey never make it into the pr0n industry.

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    3. Re:Smellovision by fbjon · · Score: 1

      I want first bids on the smell of Urectum!

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  35. She lucky by Timesprout · · Score: 1

    Cheryl Schiltz vividly recalls the morning she became a wobbler

    I have become a wobbler many times, or so I am told, usually after a large intake of Guinness and JD. Unfortunately however I am never able to remember this world turns wobbly point.

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  36. Re:NYT Article Text by lisaparratt · · Score: 5, Insightful

    By tapping a cane, a blind person perceives a step, a curb or a puddle of water but is not aware of any sensation in the hand; feeling is experienced at the tip of the cane. IME, the reverse is also true - when riding my motorbike, I'm not aware of pushing on the handlebars, shifting weight etc - I just think where I want it to go and it does.

  37. This could help the trolls by oexeo · · Score: 1

    > BrainPort Allows People To Reclaim Damaged Senses

    Can it give slashdot trolls their sense of dignity back?

    1. Re:This could help the trolls by relaxrelax · · Score: 1


      Just substitute your sense of humor by covering it with a brainport that feeds it dignity-sense type info. Your brain will eventually adjust.

      And then if you remove the device quickly enough, the slashdot funnies will make you proud for a few minutes!

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  38. This sounds familure... by east+coast · · Score: 2, Funny

    Something about the size of a postage stamp, put on the tounge, and it brgins back lost sensations? I think Timothy Leary was heading down this very path a few years back...

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  39. Buckaroo Banzai by LooseCannon74502181 · · Score: 3, Funny

    The writers from The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai Across the 8th Dimension should sue for stolen IP. Lizardo was using that thing 20 years ago.

  40. Biological Screen Saver? by koa · · Score: 1

    So, in essence, you are proposing that humans born with no vision should be given the equivilant of a "screen saver" so that their visual centers of the brain to dont atrofy? Would this not inhibbit their ability to overdevelop their other senses (i.e. touch, hearing etc.) to compensate?

    Bad idea methinks.

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    1. Re:Biological Screen Saver? by squiggleslash · · Score: 1

      What you could do is beam adverts into the person's visual areas. That way, you can fund research into artificial eyes and ensure their visual areas do not atrophy. Everyone wins!

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    2. Re:Biological Screen Saver? by freqres · · Score: 1

      Just think of the madness you would be driven to if for the rest of your life all you could see was MS Windows logos or flying toasters coming at you from the infinite depths of inner space? Damnit, as soon as I figure out this strange world of pipes they all disappear!! If I could only find Ctrl+Alt+Del to Log On I could escape this hell!!

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    3. Re:Biological Screen Saver? by fireboy1919 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Inhibit...no.

      Overdeveloping happens when you adjust to the conditions around you so that you can continue to function.

      If this doesn't actually provide better real sensory input, they'd still develop other abilities to compensate. If it does, then they don't need them.

      I suppose you could say, "but then what would they do without the machine?" Well, a lot of people can't see without glasses. Should they be forced to not wear them so that their other senses can develop more fully? It seems always better to give people more opportunity.

      Also, the ability to interpret sensory input is based upon practice. Because I worked at it, I can hear a lot better than most people - even than most blind people, I think. There's no reason that anyone can't have overdeveloped senses, but it takes work, and it's not worth it for most people.

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    4. Re:Biological Screen Saver? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So, in essence, you are proposing that humans born with no vision should be given the equivilant of a "screen saver" so that their visual centers of the brain to dont atrofy? Would this not inhibbit their ability to overdevelop their other senses (i.e. touch, hearing etc.) to compensate?

    5. Re:Biological Screen Saver? by fbjon · · Score: 1

      Yes but you need to interleave it with porn in the evening and 3D Pipes during sleep.

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  41. The NY Times needs this! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    new device called a BrainPort, which is special device that is worn like a helmet, with a strip of tape containing an array of 144 microelectrodes hanging off the headset which is placed on the tongue. The BrainPort then sends signals to the tongue which are then picked up by the brain, allowing the user to regain otherwise lost sensory input. More at the NY Times

    Maybe the Times Editorial section can use this thing AS a brain and they will become conservatives.

  42. Great for Pickups by syntap · · Score: 1

    Now I can finally see better around the bar when I'm trying to pick up hawt girls. I'm sure they'll love the hat!

  43. The snozberries by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The snozberries taste like snozberries!

  44. Danger of choking to death? by TheLink · · Score: 1

    Problem with putting stuff in your mouth is choking on it.

    They even mentioned military use. Imagine colliding into something and choking to death on the gizmo.

    Why don't they just stick the stuff into a suitable part of the brain and let the brain figure it out? Yah I know the brain moves around, let the thing move and flex around with the brain too then - and make it the same density as the brain tissue.

    I was actually thinking about this more than 10 years ago - but then I was thinking it'd work if you put it into kids when they are very young so their brains can learn how to use it (and thus they get one or two s-video/VGA ports :) ). I assumed that adult brains would not be flexible enough.

    But from these research it seems like even adult brains are quite flexible!

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    1. Re:Danger of choking to death? by vidarh · · Score: 1

      The big problem with just "sticking the stuff into a suitable part of the brain" (besides the question of whether or not the brain would figure it out) is that you're massively increasing the risk of dangerous infections.

    2. Re:Danger of choking to death? by digitalhermit · · Score: 1

      Heh, there's another obvious place to attach these devices... Just as sensitive, not needed for eating. Having the candy striper or nurse attach the device would be fun (or the doctor, if that's your thing). The only problem will be the loud gasps of excitement from the wearers when some visual stimulus appears (say a big red truck or a rainbow). You'll appear sensitive because you'll with excitement when a baby screams kick off the sensors...

  45. SciFi predates real-life by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But the technology for swapping sensory information is largely the effort of Dr. Paul Bach-y-Rita, a neuroscientist in the University of Wisconsin Medical School's orthopedics and rehabilitation department. More than 30 years ago, Dr. Bach-y-Rita developed the first sensory substitution device, routing visual images, via a head-mounted camera, to electrodes taped to the skin on people's backs.

    He probably watched that episode of Star Trek from the 1960's where that blind woman (who, of course, fell in love with Kirk) was wearing a dress that let her feel her surroundings.

  46. Re:NYT Article Text by shawb · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Similar to changing gears in a car. You don't sit there and think okay, the car is now in third gear, I must engage the clutch and then switch to fourth gear. The conscious mental process is just "upshift" and the body does the rest (or at least subcounscious portions of the nervous system.)

    Same thing with writing and typing. I usually don't even think of the individual letters that I need to put down. I don't even deliberate over the words that I use. I just kinda think of the topic, and then my fingers move. When I want, I can then enact tighter control by switching my focus.

    In fact, when typing, I usually don't even notice the keyboard, or most of the OS. Right now I guess I am thinking about interacting with this little box, not even noticing the rest of the page.

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  47. A Special Message From Your "President": by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Hello. My name is George W. Bush. I was reselected as your 44th "President" of the United Gulags of America.

    Will BrainPort let me use Faith, Family, and Valuesto decrease the ballooning federal deficit; lower
    interest rates; and strengthen the faultering U.S. dollar?

    Regards,

    George W. Bush

  48. This is just the first step by parcifal · · Score: 1

    Well, it does seem like a good first step. Although the equipment might be clunky, it will eventually be miniaturized (with smaller electrodes etc) and hence be more palatable to users.
    Identifying areas of the brain where activity occurs in response to a particular stimulus is in itself a big thing, which will help us build devices for people with neural problems (think quadriplegics...)
    Sometime in the next decade, we should see a more integrated brain-machine interface for performing all the things we take for granted, but are impossible for affected people.

    1. Re:This is just the first step by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      more "palatable"

      haha

  49. The electrodes on the tongue by multiplexo · · Score: 2, Funny
    work better to restore a sense of vision than do earlier attempts to restore the sense of taste by dripping Tabasco into people's eyeballs.

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  50. Great for touch, low resolution inputs, but sight? by ZackSchil · · Score: 0

    The idea of this is great but the problem here is with precision. Balance is a pretty easy signal to process but with sight, they're trying to send uncompressed, massive resolution video signals through the tongue! Your tongue isn't that sensitive. Sure, you'll be able to make out some basic shapes with practice but a little vision is a bit more dangerous than none. Mr. Magoo anyone?

  51. Interesting how the brain adapts by David+Horn · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Kevin Warwick (aka Captain Cyborg) gave a guest lecture at my university about 3 weeks ago. In it he discussed the implant he had placed on to a nerve in his arm, and the attempts he made to link electronic devices to his nervous system.

    One interesting (at least to me) part was an experiment where he linked an ultrasonic distance sensor (worn on a hat) to his arm. As something got closer, the pulses became more rapid.

    With his eyes open, he could sense the pulses, but not really make sense of them. When he was wearing a blindfold, someone moved quickly towards him. Instinctively, he stepped back out of their way.

    It goes to show just how quickly the brain can learn to adapt, and potentially this could have a huge future if it's successful. I have to admit I don't see the point in using the tongue, but Warwick's method of using an implant and a nerve now definitely merits more investigation.

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  52. Re:Thats great (ot) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "how can i show her, that i have senses of humour?"

  53. Potential Torture Devices -- China by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Interesting
    These new devices for promoting sensory input to the brain have potentially dangerous applications as means of torture. Most of you probably already know that the Chinese brutally torture Tibetans: there have been occasions when the Chinese insert electric cattle prods into the vaginas of the Tibetan women.

    If the Chinese knew how these new sensory devices work, the Chinese would just modify them to deliver excruciating pain to the brain. I hope that we keep these technologies secret, for the risk of abusing them is quite high.

    1. Re:Potential Torture Devices -- China by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      What the hell are you talking about? It applies small signals to the tongue, like licking a tiny battery. Nothing to do with cattle prods or applying electricity to the brain.

      If you want to torture someone, stick them with a regular old cattle prod.

      "Oh god no! Please stop making my tongue tingly! It's so unbearable!"

    2. Re:Potential Torture Devices -- China by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Congratulations -- you flawlessly missed the entire point of the article.

      From the article:
      In another application, student pilots have been fitted with body sensors attached to aircraft instruments. When the airplane starts to pitch or change altitude, they can feel the movements on their chests.
      Perhaps I'm misinterpretting, but if the feeling in these student pilots' chests is what I think it is, we're no more than a hop, skip and jump from extending the technology to pure pain.
  54. Garp? by Walrus99 · · Score: 1

    What if someone is and Ellen Jamesian? This wouldn't work at all.

  55. You might enjoy this story by NotQuiteReal · · Score: 1
    Funny you should mention Ice Cream and synaesthete in the same post. Check out the short story The Empire of Ice Cream by Jeffery Ford.

    I first read it in a paperback but when I saw this slashdot post, I remembered it and found it online.

    Enjoy.

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    1. Re:You might enjoy this story by mforbes · · Score: 1

      Wonderful story, and a great way to blow off work for fifteen minutes-- many thanks!

      For a non-synaesthete, the author does a wonderful job of presenting the senses. I've read that many synaesthetes have their senses of taste, smell and touch (which is actually several senses-- temperature, pressure, texture, etc), involved. I've always been a little jealous of those people, as the only senses I get crossed regularly are vision and hearing, and even those aren't 100% dependable. The things I see & hear (that others do vice-versa, I guess) are consistent, but not persistent, I guess is what I'm trying to say.

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  56. Oh god by FSUpaintball · · Score: 1

    "Surgeons can feel on their tongues the tip of a probe inside a patient's body, enabling precise movements." no comment

  57. Quackery! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is utter bunk. Everything I've learned about cognitive modeling and the brain goes against what this guys is selling. Nerve endings are hard wired to certain areas of the brain. Real research to restore vision actually target the nerves in the eye.

    Comparisons to Braille or using a cane to walk are baseless attempts to legitamize this pseudoscience. I hope no one gets suckered into this. I hope actually money goes to legitimate research groups.

    Can I get a double blind study? Anyone? http://www.brainportinfo.com/

    No? Just anecdotal evidence... damn.

  58. Copy of the New York Times article by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 2, Funny

    In recent years, science fiction has suffered a great decline in quality of content, in no small part due to the excessive commercialization of unimaginative "world of..." series.

    So science has had to look to other forms of art for inspiration and development of new technologies. Scientists at Brain-Port Inc have found their new beacon of innovation in that aging rocker, Ozzy Osbourne.

    During the development of the Brain-Port tonque interface, it was code-named the "Fly High Helmet" after Ozzy's song, "Fly High Again" in which he asked the question -- "Swallowing colors of the sound I hear, am I just a crazy guy?"

    Brain-Port is rumoured to be working on another product which they are calling the "Hagar Helmet." Expected to be a huge boon to the auto insurance industry, the Hagar Helmet is designed to prevent the wearer from exceeding the speed limit. The exact mechanism by which it ensures that the wearer can only drive 55 is considered one of Brain-Port's most valuable trade secrets.

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  59. the IP perspective by wes33 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Maybe this is great work, but it bothers me that the professor can spin off a company to market this product which the university has patented.

    Bear in mind that the good professor was supported by public money to do this research and the Univ. of Wisconsin similarly is state funded.

    It seems just plain obvious to me that this research belongs to those who paid for it -- the public.

    The idea that a university takes public money to use as venture capital with intent to profit is repulsive. Of course, it happens all the time in those branches of academe which connect to marketable products. But that doesn't make it right.

    1. Re:the IP perspective by ChrisMaple · · Score: 1, Insightful
      So, you're saying that the university (i.e. the state) should risk taxpayer's money by setting up a manufacturing facility for this product? Or that noone should ever develop it? Or that professors should never do practical research?

      "The public" as a whole does not benefit from this product - individuals do. Likewise, the public as a whole does not manufacture it, sell it, buy it, repair it, or improve it.

      I don't know what the policies of the University of Wisconsin are, but it's likely they'll be getting some royalty payments out of this since they have a patent.

      Yes, there is a problem with the state taking money to run schools (except military academies), but objecting to commercial research is unrealistic.

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    2. Re:the IP perspective by lasermike026 · · Score: 1

      I agree whole heartily. Furthermore, restrictive patents on devices, methods, therapies, drugs, etc that enable and heal people I find even more distressing. In medicine OUR focus needs to be the PATIENT not the BUSINESS. It is important to say that doctors and medical practitioners of similar disciplines recieve fair compensation.

      Some doctors, insurance companies, drug companies, and healthcare executives feel differently. The above mention group believes that it is ok if you go without healthcare as long they get payed. I know this because I worked for an insurance company and I've experienced the general callusness within these medical organizations.

    3. Re:the IP perspective by lasermike026 · · Score: 1

      I find it intellectually immoral and ethically questionable to use academia an engine of business while restricting the use of knowledge. Universities are places of knowledge and research.

    4. Re:the IP perspective by wes33 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "So, you're saying that the university (i.e. the state) should risk taxpayer's money by setting up a manufacturing facility for this product? Or that noone should ever develop it? Or that professors should never do practical research?"

      None of the above. The research is public and should be freely available to anybody. If somebody wants to make a product and sell it, fine. No patent protection on publically funded research.

      I think companies could make money this way if their product is good enough and, of course, they can sell "support" (sound familiar).

    5. Re:the IP perspective by bubblewrapgrl · · Score: 1

      The University of Wisconsin has a foundation (The Wisconsin Alumni Research Foundation - or WARF) that takes care of patenting research and then allocating the profits. Yes, the University of Wisconsin is state funded, but that doesn't cover the entire cost of a student's eduation. The profits of patents go back in to the University. The professor will not get all of the profits. The majority will go back into the school to help prevent major tuition raises.

      It's a pretty good system (the first of it's kind) and a lot of other schools have set up similar systems.

      For more information, check out the WARF website: http://www.warf.org/

  60. No screen saver. Viewing. by RedLaggedTeut · · Score: 1
    I don't think about a screen saver, but a camera and live input. You could also try active sonar, if you are so interested in developing other senses.

    I was also thinking of brain implants, but The vOICe, which is similar to the website in the /. lead, changed my mind.

    I think you are glorifying being blind out of PC'ness. I believe a blind with a sensory replacement aid will develop whatever senses they need just fine even if you give them another sense to work with.

    I mean, it is fine to be able to perceive something well by touching it, but it is even better if you know where to touch, isn't it ?

    I'd also like to give the compliment back to the other guy who said that the idea is stupid. This post is for you, too.

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  61. Pattern Learning and Recall... by cr0sh · · Score: 2, Interesting
    It is speculated by Jeff Hawkins (of the Redwood Neuroscience Institute, but better known as the founder/designer of the Palm Pilot and Palm), in his book "On Intelligence", that - more or less - the brain is nothing more than a large pattern learning and playback system. He mentions (what is likely an older implementation) a similar system to this, which allowed a man who went blind at a young age (I believe it was 13) to regain his "sight" using such a system, well enough to recognize many items.

    The book goes into very great detail, but it presents a model of the neocortex fairly different from that of other models, while at the same time building upon earlier work (like neural networks). Hawkins isn't proposing to build a human mind, but rather an "artificial neocortex". He deliberately ignores (though while acknowledges them) the effects other areas of the brain has on the neocortex (I don't think it is because he thinks they don't have anything to do with thinking, or that they aren't needed - I think he simply wants to understand and be able to use the neocortex for machine thinking, which would be radically different from human). His model, while different in subtle ways, seems similar to experiments and devices Igor Aleksander has built (interestingly, you don't here much about this individual - he isn't presented in Hawkins' book, and other AI books I have read don't mention his work, either - I tend to wonder if these two individuals will go down like Charles Babbage did - thier work highly relevant, perhaps even precient - but not used because they became obscure - for instance, when ENIAC was designed and built, none of the people involved had heard of Babbage!).

    What is really crazy, and I hesitate to link it, because this individual is known as an extreme crank in AI circles - alright, those of you who know who I am talking about will know who I mean, so I won't mention him by name or moniker - is that Hawkins' ideas and model seem to be very similar (though developed in a different way) to that other individual's model. While Mr. M's model is convoluted, and serial like (with attendent streams of information flowing facilitating recall of thoughts/ideas/abstractions) - Mr. Hawkin's model of the neocortex is very similar in scope - only doing the same type of learning and recall using strict hierarchical, interrelated networks of neurons.

    He comes away showing how, in the neocortex, all patterns are the same, in that for instance, knowing how a sentence is written or spoken activates the same patterns. These patterns, while they are learned, and later played back - cause other patterns to fire off and playback (or be learned, if only slightly) - which is why a song or the taste of a certain food, sometimes brings back certain feelings and thoughts - because the playback of what the pattern of the taste of the food causes the same/similar triggers to cause playback of the patterns for those thoughts and feelings. The concept of feedback in learning is the important part...

    I encourage *everyone interested in this kind of computing* to pick up Hawkins' book, as well as Aleksander's book (and, I would implore you to (re)read Mr. M's ideas with a fresh mind, in the context of the models presented by Hawkins and Aleksander, and see if you don't agree that all seem to be studying similar paths in the same goal of what creates consciousness and intelligence - you may come back surprised)...

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  62. Military Applications by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The potential military applications are vastly understated IMHO... I'm just picturing the day that soldiers could be equipt with a small radar/sonar or the like device that is fast enough to track bullets. Soldiers could 'see' exactly where incoming rounds were being fired from, and exactly where their rounds were impacting. With enough range, they could see and dodge incoming sniper rounds. Something like that would vastly amplify the combat effectiveness of troops while reducing casualties.

  63. Eyes in the back of the head? by phyruxus · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Take someone who has normal vision. Put a camera on them facing backwards and hook it up via brainport.

    Will the brain be able to interpret the forward and rearward vision simultaneously? Would a person be able to develop 360' vision? Even if not, I'd still like to have my own "rear view mirror" :)

    There could be a huge market in wedgie prevention. :)

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  64. not really bad taste jokes by tinkerton · · Score: 1

    Just jokes that smell funny.

  65. More than just 'sensory substitution' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    There's more to the brainport than sensory substitution. By using an alternate pathway (ie, the tongue) for a damaged sensory input (ie, vestibular organ & balance), it provides a connection for the brain to strengthen the few neurons that still remain. End result: it can possibly restore the damaged sense.

    This is why the lady who lost her sense of balance was able to go outside & dance around WITHOUT THE HELMET after the initial trial. Dr. Bach-y-Rita has a promo video showing this; I couldn't find any link. It is also why there is hope of using this for rehabilitative therapy.

    When I heard him lecture, my thoughts went something like this: Sweet!! I can use it to develope synesthesia without dropping acid!

  66. Woah... by stevenm86 · · Score: 1

    Can I have this thing pipe /proc into my brain? For once, you can truly become one with your operating system.

  67. Loss of Senses by morticus · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I recently sustained a massive head injury. I passed out and fell backwards out of a chair. The impact cracked my skull causing a hemorrhage on my brain and blew out my eardrum. My brain to sloshed around in my skull, pulling on the nerves that run to my nose's olfactory receptors. The resulting condition has been quite the experience for me. I haven't completely lost my sense of smell however it has shifted drastically. Almost nothing smells the same to me now. The best way to describe it is that certain layers in an odor don't hit my brain so I smell only parts of the whole odor. The most difficult thing to deal with is that I can no longer smell the smells that trigger past memories that are scent driven. I can't smell cut grass and I can't smell the scent of a woman. I'm wondering if anyone has experience with this type of nerve damage. I wonder if this type of treatment can help fix the damage to my nerves.

  68. What happens to the slave sense? by deuterium · · Score: 1

    If a given area of sense is rewired to respond to different stimuli, does this obscure or deform the original utility of that sense? If I use, say, pressure on my scalp to map things spatially, what happens if someone strokes my head? Do I experience an object presence?

  69. BrainPort? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    I always thought ElderPort was a god-awful name for a website that does a good service (connecting families to their loved ones in nursing homes). It sounded like some kind of shunt you attached to Grandma's skull.

    And now I know why.

  70. Or Stroke Victims by supersmike · · Score: 1

    I wonder if this technique can be applied to "re-wire" the brains of stroke victims so that they could learn to use their limbs again via a different part of the brain.

  71. 360 degrees infrared vision by lahvak · · Score: 1

    I have heard about this before. Now just imagine you use this and plug in a different camera, say infrared, or with a fisheye lense...

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  72. you aren't seeing this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You guys are SCREWING UP. You aren't seeing the geek applications for this.

    This is the first practical application towards plugging your brain into the office LAN. A USB port to the brain?? I wonder what packets would "taste" like....is there a flavor difference between ICMP, TCP, and UDP? A smell? We could "taste" incoming traffic, "smell" a server's health...feel incoming packets??????

    Will someone PLEASE WRITE A LINUX DRIVER FOR THIS THING???????????

  73. Re:NYT Article Text by Have+Blue · · Score: 1

    What you're describing there is the use of learned reflexes. The "don't think, just do" is because your brain has literally created a subroutine for (i.e.) turning left, and you can shift your weight and turn the handlebars without consciously being aware of anything beyond your desire to turn left which is setting off the reflex. This is a bit different from the process described in the article, which is more like installing some sort of input filter or translator (where vibrations at the cane's handgrip are thought of as events at the cane's tip without having to consciously think about the physics of the situation).

  74. Re:Loss of Senses - anosmia by cbelt3 · · Score: 2, Informative
    I suffered a similar loss four years ago when my head met the floor after I encountered a frictionless surface, and some insensetive clod left the damn gravity turned on. In short, the nerve bundle between my brain and your olfactory sensor was squashed and strained as my brain imitated a superball bouncing around in a box.

    The nerve bundles do, according to my Neurologist, regenerate over time. "Time"being" being years and decades. Supplements of Zinc are thought to help.

    In four years, I've gone from smelling the same thing (burning blood, oh so wonderful) to faintly sensing almost everything. Part of it is probably brain re-training, and part of it is nerve regeneration.

    Unfortunately, I don't think that this technology will function in the manner you hope. The Glands of Bowman and olfactory bulb that function as our sense of smell are screamingly complicated electro-chemical analytic systems. You'd have to cart around a full chemical assay lab on your back to equal these amazing biological systems. I believe that our best hope is for superior nervous tissue regeneration, which currently has its best hopes in the highly politicized "Stem Cell" arena.

    Good luck, I know what you're feeling, and 'smell ya later'.

  75. what is real by bluepaq2000 · · Score: 1

    "real is simply electrical impluses interprited by your brain" Anyone else thinking matrix?

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  76. Can we use this to taste TCP packets? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What kind of sense would this be like if we could feed an IP datastream into this? We'd need feedback of some sort to correlate the impulses we're getting with the data - we could develop an abstract way of sensing network data. Is this even possible?

  77. Using this Techonology w/ Artificial Limbs..etc by rubberbando · · Score: 1

    Surgeons can feel on their tongues the tip of a probe inside a patient's body, enabling precise movements.

    This could be quite a boon for those who have lost limbs and have to use prosthetics. By putting sensors inside the artificial limbs and electrodes at where they're attached to the person, I'm betting they could be on the way to a breakthrough in bionic/cybernetic technology.

    I could also see this being great for VR and remote controlling machinery such as robots and animatronics in movies.

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  78. Re:NYT Article Text by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Like most posters, right now as I type this, I'm not thinking about what I'm typing, or like what it has to do with the topic, or if its correct or not. I'm just kind of typing things randomly and pushing submit

  79. someone named schlitz had trouble standing? by jpellino · · Score: 1

    this it too easy...

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  80. Most universities give the professor a percentage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Most universities offer the professor a percentage of any patents that they produce. (Otherwise, they have a hard time getting top professors.) The percentage is usually decided before the professor actually starts work. Note that the professor's name will appear on the patent as the inventor and that the university's name will appear as the holder.

    In addition, most Universities are happy to negotiate with a professor who wants to start a company to market university-developed technology. The university will typically end up owning (a silent) 25-33% of the company.

  81. Re:NYT Article Text by Sinner · · Score: 1
    Surgeons can feel on their tongues the tip of a probe inside a patient's body, enabling precise movements.
    I feel a Tom Green moment coming on.

    I AM LICKING YOUR LIVER!
    I AM LICKING YOUR LIVER!

    This thing is going to breed a whole new generation of perverts.

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  82. Re:NYT Article Text by jtwine · · Score: 1

    Similar to changing gears in a car. You don't sit there and think okay, the car is now in third gear,

    Completely true. You can be driving around and find yourself in 4th gear and not realize exactly how you got there, indicating a possible subconscious force.

    Although that kind of connection also has its issues too... Every have a "mis-shift", where you grind the gears a little? If yes, think about it, were you doing a conscious shift at that time, or did it just happen?

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  83. What about using this for Augmented Reality? by jtwine · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I think this would be an real interesting approach to Augmented Reality (or Mixed Reality -- see http://www.augmented-reality.org and Google for information and resources).

    Normally, cameras and monitors (goggles, etc) are used to blend additional information into what you would normally see. But using additional senses for it would be interesting, too. At least, I think it would.

    Wonder if your brain would be able to take other additional non-visual inputs and kinda-sorta internally superimpose them onto your vision, or if things would get confused because you would have two different sets of sensory input trying to accomplish the same goal (both visual and tactile inputs for visual information, for example).

    Either way, this whole thing sounds cool to me, and I would be really interested in seeing how far its use can go.

    Peace!

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  84. Re:NYT Article Text by bithead2u · · Score: 1

    Utter piffle. I work with the blind. Although the cane is useful for detecting surfaces and walls, it's the sound of the tapping that provides the important spatial cues.

  85. Re:Loss of Senses - anosmia by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    NOW I understand those little bursts of odd smells that sometimes accompany head impacts... the olfactory equivalent of seeing stars.

    the things you learn on slashdot...

  86. OT: by Tink2000 · · Score: 1

    Woo Mike Oldfield! I've been trying to get people to listen to him, but because he was so incredibly progressive and influential for the time people can't figure out why it's cool that a song from 1982 sounds like it was written in 1995.

    I'm glad to know there are a few more people out there that still know and recognise. :)

    And, for the record, Ommadawn (not Tubular Bells) was the thing that led me to him.

    1. Re:OT: by Janek+Kozicki · · Score: 1
      for me it was five miles out :)

      .. and too bad I still have no time do writa what I've promised

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