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You mean Startpage it.

I hate Google.

Erratum : should have made that https://startpage.com./ My apologies!

It's trying to get its godawful greedy hands on anything that it sees as undercutting its hegemony.
I salute Cyanogen for their thumbing nose. I hope they can keep it up.
On a related matter -- Fed up with Google? Use http://startpage.com./

See also

https://startpage.com/

* Google alternative. They use the Google index but don't track their users.

Thanks for the pointer to StartPage.

This is supposed to motivate me to upgrade? Right now, on the rare occasion I use Google,* I have JavaScript completely disabled to make Google (search, image search, and news) actually work the way I want it to in my browser. If they're going to help with this by serving me their older---read "cleaner, simpler, faster"---search page, I say, thanks, Google!

* Google alternative. They use the Google index but don't track their users.

I've been using bing for years mostly because I didn't want there to be only one search engine. Try them out. They have boolean searches. I know... the evil microsoft... but the search engine is good.

I've been using Startpage for years now. They perform a Google search on your behalf while guarding your privacy. They don't even log your IP address. They're the same company that runs Ixquick.com if you want a truly independent search engine to go with the privacy features (their own indexer, no dependency on Google). Personally I enjoy the idea of getting Google results without the Google tracking for which I never signed an agreement.

Google built the tools to filter their searches when China demanded it, once in place, do you really think it isn't used in the US but in a less open manner?
Anyway, the results are already filtered based on what Google knows about you. If you want unfiltered search you should use one of the aggregators like duckduckgo or startpage

Other than that, how many people know him on sight?

Oh, I don't know, maybe anyone capable of doing an image search? (My, what a nice big, soft, fist-friendly face!)

Of course I use Google for searching, but I've moved on to Startpage at present to minimize my Google footprint. Youtube existed before Google bought it, and it was unarguably a better place, if not quite as convenient with respect to speed or uploading.

And that is what I think you've missed, here in the comments of a story about how onerous it is to avoid becoming a data point in dozens, hundreds of advertisers' and Snowden-knows-what-else's data files:

We don't have a choice any more.

Back when the internet was hard to use, we didn't have mom or grandma our Cousin Suzy to worry about shining a light on us. The advertising you seem to celebrate has undoubtedly expanded the internet and 'free' content availability, but this is the very situation which I'm "overly nostalgic" against.

For the record, I'm not against ads or seeing them; I'm against that relationship of one-ad-on-one-site and the rest of my browsing habits being linked or traceable or contributory outside of that scenario where I've seen an ad on one particular site. You'll say that these interlinks and the industry behind it have 'made money' out of views, but, again, my position is that the Internet is for things the Host loves, not an opportunity to make money from the mere fact of traffic.

Every one of them free for you and paid for partially or entirely with ad revenue.

Money is not the only cost. And we're barely into the debate of what the real cost of 'free' sites is.

One anecdote: I do the .NET for a Fortune 200's 'dotCom' site. I was testing something the other day, functionality based on presence of a cookie generated from a different page view and had cleared all cookies and reloaded our homepage. Other than our site, I was floored to see one hundred and forty tracking and advertising cookie domains (not just cookies) populate my list. Do you seriously still think that the 'free internet' is free?

Saying there is no conspiracy involved generally leads people to believe there is one.

Aaw man, I'm damned if I do and damned if I don't aren't I? :)

Okay look, Google is a company that scares the bejesus out of me, and I believe the things they develop and invest in lead the world to a dangerously slippery slope. I also think they don't publicize all the things they do because they believe people aren't ready to hear what they have in store for them. But I *emphatically* don't believe there is ANY conspiracy involved.

If you want a real conspiracy theory take a very close look at how precisely Google received its initial start-up money and what government agency was involved. It's not really so absurd to posit that the government makes "investments" in things it believes will serve its interests just like businesses do.

And if you want Google search without Google tracking, try using Startpage. They conduct Google searches on your behalf and act as a proxy.

The only thing surprising about this is that people are still surprised. Leak after leak has confirmed that encryption products from "all major vendors" have been deliberately compromised.

Seriously, your confirmation is a link to a web search?

It's surprising because the leaks are fragmentary and incomplete. We still don't know exactly what's broken and how. That's why you can't even provide a real link that demonstrates your point. The NSA is winning the FUD war.

The only thing surprising about this is that people are still surprised. Leak after leak has confirmed that encryption products from "all major vendors" have been deliberately compromised.

That's as bullshitty a term as it is in your supermarket. There *are* no "organic" results when they're calculated based on your tracking history, ad clicks and social connections.

Friends don't let friends get tracked. Use the quack that doesn't track!

I use startpage.com myself. I like the idea of getting actual Google search results without any sort of Google tracking. They don't even log your IP address and they're outside of US jurisdiction.

By the way I hope our federal legislators appreciate that. I hope they are proud that now, "outside of US jurisdiction" has become a selling point.

No the 1% don't control elections, they just own the presidential candidates on both sides, if you could even call them sides...

Because obviously less education is the solution. [/irony]

Sure, that appears to be the policy answer dictated by the 1% for solving Americas internal problems, why not extend it to our more traditional external enemies as well.

Use a search anonymizer. Replace your Google search provider in the browser with a less intrusive data-mining version of the service. Use it for patient searches instead of direct Google. Done.

But I don't think you can really claim unqualified totalitarianism unless there is actual repression tied into it, especially political repression

Latest example of several that are on record: NSA used to squash the political movment: Occupy Wall Street. So your right, it is now possible to make a claim for unqualified totalitarianism in this country.

I found a copy of the video on Vimeo. There's download links too.
I wont bother linking to it since it's prolly taken down soon anyways. Point is the video is out there,
all we need to do is look for it,

Search
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Search

It's more profitable for the lawmakers to change that law than to force Apple to provide repairs.

Yes. It is also easier for lawmakers/political elite to seem to be forced to change the law against their will in order to avoid political fallout. "We are just normalizing with internationaly recognized laws", Enter the TPP.

I see you're modded troll.

Guess the kids here don't like the comment, which most of the time means it comes closes to the factual truth.

Here's an alternative: https://startpage.com/

The tiered justice system is working exactly as intended. Most of us are just on the wrong tier...

Or just use a search engine that does not track you. Or if you prefer Google search algorithms, the same folks have you covered.

The women DO deserve their day. So tell us why Sweden is stalling and not doing an interview to move this case forward? I mean they will interview a accused murderer in Serbia but they will not interview Assange!? That clearly shows that Sweden prosecution does not have the girls interest at heart. Also please explain why the girls texted a message, paraphrased in English "that we have to figure out a good plan of revenge." . This is in addition to one of the girls previous publication of the guide "Seven steps for revenge against an unfaithful lover". You have to admit, that does not put the story you have highlighted in a good light. I think everyone involved wants this to get to trial so these little details can be fleshed out in court, but Sweden is stalling by not performing a simple interview. Political Asylum is not given lightly, so the ball really is in Swedens court.

America has a very visible easily confirmed two tiered justice system.

Take your business elsewhere whenever possible. Only thing that will make companies sit up and pay attention is when their bottom line starts to be affected. Computer professionals advise non-techy business types on how best to protect sensitive company information against the massive industrial espionage spy network. People may not care about their facebook page and personal email is being compromised, but they sure as hell care when their companies sensitive business information is put at risk...

Try this:

https://www.startpage.com/

It uses google, but even google don't know who you are when you go through these guys :)

Death by a thousand cuts. They'll do it again. This is all part of an apparently huge push to force g+ on people.

Yes and so many of them are docile little consumers who bend over and spread their cheeks, so it will work. It's sad and unjust that thinking people are often burdened by what the majority deserves, but it's abundantly possible to never end up in that situation to begin with.

I am migrating my dozen+ accounts from gmail. Thanks for the push, google!

The attempts to track my web use without even asking if I consent made me stay away from all Google services years ago. I recommend you adopt the same zero-tolerance policy towards corporations that do things disrespectful of you as a human being. I use Startpage to get Google search results and I have never, ever, not once used any other online service Google provides. The tracking methods aren't difficult to defeat either, not with a few browser addons.

I have never seen any Facebook page either, nor any Myspace page before that. I imagine the crackhead thinks the idea of life without crack is absurd, an unrealistic pipe dream. Meanwhile those who had sense enough not to ever use crack consider life without it their normal everyday existence. Shady corporations are like this. Don't ever get involved with them for any reason and you'll find that you never miss them nor anything they offer. Or whine about their business practices while making a bunch of excuses for why you'll sell your soul for a little convenience. It's your choice, after all.

If you can't smell the heavy miasma of bullshit wafting off this, you need a new fucking nose.

And yet, the demonize Snowden rhetoric made it pas Slashdot editors to make front page. How many times is that now even just in the last few days?

Wikileaks has shown us that Reddit cofounder Alexis Ohanian was attempting to abuse his position, sell out and leverage reddit users by working for Stratfor. They turned him down apparently due to already having the area covered. Could we now be witnessing Slashdots Ohanian moment, now directed they peddle pathetic anti-Snowden properganda to the front page?

By nature of their powers they are often in possession of considerable amounts of confidential information that they have a duty to keep confidential

I guess that is why Snowden went to work for the private sector then (BAH) - to get access to considerable amounts of confidential information...

That is before you get to the question of confidential intelligence information necessary to perform industrial espionage profitably. FTFY

It is really quite odd that you fail to recognize that. Do you simply think of the private military industrial complex as your playmate?

Lets also be clear what "human smuggling" means in this context: Illegal immigration. Indonesians (and others) trying to enter into Australia illegally by any means possible in search of a better life. The Snowden leaks have exposed how the spy apparatus is being used for industrial espionage. This includes and is not limited to being used to maintain political favor with corrupt Indonesian officials in order to maintain cheap access to resources by Australian and other foreign companies. There are already a few previous examples of such immoral exploitation to the detriment of the poorest classes in this region. Running the spy network being for economic advantage in the region only helps guarantee that people will be forced to immigrate illegally to find a better life.

As usual Cold Fjord propaganda story tries to turn this all around to be the complete opposite...

Lets also be clear what "human smuggling" means in this context: Illegal immigration. Indonesians (and others) trying to enter into Australia illegally by any means possible in search of a better life. The Snowden leaks have exposed how the spy apparatus is being used for industrial espionage. This includes and is not limited to being used to maintain political favor with corrupt Indonesian officials in order to maintain cheap access to resources by Australian and other foreign companies. There are already a few previous examples of such immoral exploitation to the detriment of the poorest classes in this region. Running the spy network being for economic advantage in the region only helps guarantee that people will be forced to immigrate illegally to find a better life.

...not to mention disrupting a string of profitable industrial espionage gigs!

Since when has free speech been squashed in the US?

Here is one recent example. NSA helping shut down a political movement. There are many other examples please pay more attention.

The last lot that tried to agitate for political change had the full brunt of the NSA come down on them... anyone remotely connected with the leaders got fired if they had jobs, put on the do not fly lists and do not employ lists. Yes, NSA used for stifling the democratic process and a political movement.

startpage.com was the "third party" I was referring to. Thank you.

Just using the tools put in place. Evil, but hardly as evil as using the surveillance state to squash political dissent which received much less mass media attention that this internal witch hunt. Key OWS supporters lost their jobs, were put on no fly and do not employ lists but since they did not have big Washington insider status, they get no press.

Roundcube does well for me in that regard, running it on top of a postfix/dovecot/mysql install. Easily replaces gmail's UI imho.

For search, try Start Page, which uses Google as a backend (sort've like Scroogle did back in it's day).

The US government probably has, since I'm hurting their sponsors by downloading the latest movies.

Exactly. Or perhaps your upset with trillion dollar bailouts to the banks while more and more of the middle class slip into poverty so you decide to democratically voice your concerns - only to be picked up the spy dragnet and harassed, fired, put on no-fly and do-not-employ list's (yes, all these things have already happened to key OWS leaders). How long before your crime may be as simple as expressing your dissatisfaction with our ruling elite on forums such as Slashdots. Going by current trends, I would be surprised if it is not already happening.

Spying by your own goverment is the much greater threat.

Congress was/is ignorant on NSA spying, FISA. Can't be held accountable to ignorance. Entertaining (Tedious?) subservient to power nonsense arguments from the cold fjord account, as usual.

They use the Bing engine

Bing is just one sourse they use of many. "DuckDuckGo gets its results from over one hundred sources, including DuckDuckBot (our own crawler), crowd-sourced sites (like Wikipedia, which are stored in our own index), Yahoo! (through BOSS), Yandex, WolframAlpha, and Bing."

I find I still have to fall back to Google search occasionally.

Use StartPage instead, it proxies Google results.

Speaking of foiling NSA and other of the worlds shadowy sky organizations shenanigans, there are some great ideas floating about like this one posted a few NSA stories back by Anachragnome: "The NSA has made it clear that making connections--following the metadata--is often enough to get an investigation started. So why not do the same thing? Turn the whole thing around? Start focusing on their networks."

A sort of They Rule type network connection analysis on lists of people involved, start tallying connections and contacts build dossiers and trust-worthiness - combined with dead man switches for websites and professionally shunning anyone/organizations that have worked to subvert the security of the internet in favor of spying and undermining the social contract of the internet.

In related news Reddit co-founder was exposed as wanting to sign up and use Reddit/his reputation as a mouthpiece/research partner for Stratfor. Stratfor turned him down they already had people from the social networking world working for them apparently. Given Slashdot appears to give regular airtime to well known warmongering trolls, will anyone be surprised if most sites like Slashdot are already on the payroll...

The truth, it's just a leak away, it's just a leak awaaay....

The current tactic is turning your car into an inferno - less evidence that way, makes the cliff optional.

This account, however, has come into sharp dispute with an internal NSA historical study[7] which stated on page 17:

At 1500G, Captain Herrick (commander of the Maddox) ordered Ogier's gun crews to open fire if the boats approached within ten thousand yards. At about 1505G, the Maddox fired three rounds to warn off the communist boats. This initial action was never reported by the Johnson administration, which insisted that the Vietnamese boats fired first.[7]

The Maddox when confronted, was approaching Hòn Mê Island, three to four miles (6 km) inside the twelve-mile (19 km) limit claimed by North Vietnam. This territorial limit was unrecognized by the United States. After the skirmish, President Johnson ordered the Maddox and Turner Joy to stage daylight runs into North Vietnamese waters, testing the twelve-mile (19 km) limit and North Vietnamese resolve. These runs into North Vietnamese territorial waters coincided with South Vietnamese coastal raids and were interpreted as coordinated operations by the North, which officially acknowledged the engagements of 2 August 1964.[22]

So please, if you have issues with the historical account as it currently stands, take it up with the professional historians - plenty of them standing by on wikipedia and elsewhere to rip your blatant fact manipulation to shreds. Also lets not get into the long list of other false flag operations that have been used to start wars - not like it is anything new.

A quick search and you will have a considerable list of names and example cases - for just this single topic (OWS). There are plenty more. So to address your original point: yes US Citizens do fear the government knocking on the door at midnight (literally!), rounding them up for detainment before they can exercise their supposed democratic rights. The crime: wanting to improvement the community.

To quote from the GP, the US has unfortunately become a country "where you can be taken off the street without any [justifiable] cause, just by labeling you a 'terrorist' sounds just like the Soviet Union, North Korea and Nazi Germany."

A quick search and you will have a considerable list of names and example cases - for just this single topic (OWS). There are plenty more. So to address your original point: yes US Citizens do fear the government knocking on the door at midnight (literally!), rounding them up for detainment before they can exercise their supposed democratic rights. The crime: wanting to improvement the community.

To quote from the GP, the US has unfortunately become a country "where you can be taken off the street without any [justifiable] cause, just by labeling you a 'terrorist' sounds just like the Soviet Union, North Korea and Nazi Germany."

Stealing Bitcoins and pushing spam. Bah, what is Google about ? Stealing data and pushing their spam on first position.

Google doesn't 'steal' anything. They make it perfectly clear what their privacy policy is. They also don't push spam. They're an advertising company. They give people free services. Those people who choose to use those services are agreeing to their terms.

Stealing Bitcoins and pushing spam. Bah, what is Google about ? Stealing data and pushing their spam on first position.

That is why I use https://startpage.com/

I would imagine:
https://startpage.com/eng/press/pr-pfs.html seems to be a hint.
..."a different "per-session" key for each data transfer"
Get creative with the tech your site offers more often and keep up with ideas about how "historical traffic" can be used later.
Keep users pw safe from easy social engineering, or outdated weak security that even the tech press can hack in weeks on pro/consumer hardware.
When the court order comes, be ready with a legal team.
In theory you might just see a new server for a few years and get to make notes about how to run it/who to call if the lights change :)
Keep your staff away from that, never talk about it and your fine.
No US defence lawyer will ever have US court standing to ask about 'methods' again so its all fine.