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In my country lots of preemies survive to adulthood ... I know one that was born at 6 months and last year had twins herself.

Last year there were a couple of scandals in UK about prematurely born babies being left to die without any attempt to care for them http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/6156118/Premature-baby-dies-as-guidelines-say-he-was-born-too-early-to-save.html ... in my country those MDs would have lost their right to practice medicine ... ; as far as I know the same happens in almost every European country, and the "preemies" don't survive for long ... same thing would happen with a normal baby, if left in the cold and not fed.

the plural of anecdote is not data... keep in mind that what you are observing is classic human behavior. They lie and cheat through tests, but you believe them when they say it is commonplace? Hmmm.... A classic defense mechanism when caught doing something wrong is to act like it was nothing out of the ordinary. "Everyone does it, why're you hassling me?"

I have observed the behavior you describe among Asians at university level (in a chemistry class they sat in the last row of the lecture hall and passed tests, each student answered one question). I have some experience in the Saudi Arabia, have seen the same behavior among Saudis and the same excuse. I have also heard it from Americans. Excuses are only that. Excuses.

To put things into perspective you might want to watch this http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newsvideo/weirdnewsvideo/8140456/200-students-admit-cheating-after-professors-online-rant.html

Lasers are pretty dangerous. Look at what happens with lasers not even designed to blind people: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/2403814/Russian-concert-laser-show-blinds-30.html. Now you're going to trust something stronger in the hands of police and government? I got a bridge to sell you...

First of all there is a BIG difference between stating that "Israel should not exist" and "We are going to destroy Israel." You swallowing the Israeli propaganda talking points hook line as sinker and regurgitating them is not going to convince any reason minded individual here.

Theoretically there might be. But Iran is funding Hezbollah and Hamas, who are not just talking about it. I don't see at as an extreme stretch of imagination that Iran would act themselves if they could (perhaps after acquiring the bomb).

And how many times has the US and Israel threatned to attack them? Double standards much?

I don't recall either US or Israel calling for dismantling the persian state and replacing it by a non-persian state. Correct me if I'm wrong.

  Secondly. What's the difference between terrorizing other countries with stuxnet, infiltration and bombing or killing scientists, by a country or supporting a third party (insert terrorist org here) to do you bidding. If I send a CIA agent to infiltrate and blow up an arms depot or if I pay someone else to do it for me? What's the difference?

Hamas and Hezbollah rarely blow up arms depots. That would be totally in order and according to the laws of war. They intentionally target civilians.

Its OK for us to support terrorist organization but no one else should right? And then there is this

Notice that in the quoted article the US is choosing not to act through Mujahedin-E-Khalq since it is deemed to be a -- terrorist organization.

Your rant is pure demagoguery.

What you seem to disregard is that Iran is now ruled exclusively by a religious leader, and that his dog Ahmadinejad doesn't just not get along with Israel, but calls out for the destruction of Israel pretty much any time there's an open microphone nearby. He does so even though Israel has never done anything bad to Iran and the two countries even had strong military relations prior to 1979.

You also forget that Iran spends millions of oil dollars every year funding terrorist organizations whose sole purpose is to harm and kill American and Israeli civilians.

What your last paragraph is basically saying is that it's OK for Iran to destroy Israel (even if we assume that they could), because Christianity is false. Even if Christianity is false, nobody has the right to destroy another country the way Iran wants to destroy Israel.

First of all there is a BIG difference between stating that "Israel should not exist" and "We are going to destroy Israel." You swallowing the Israeli propaganda talking points hook line as sinker and regurgitating them is not going to convince any reason minded individual here. And how many times has the US and Israel threatned to attack them? Double standards much? Secondly. What's the difference between terrorizing other countries with stuxnet, infiltration and bombing or killing scientists, by a country or supporting a third party (insert terrorist org here) to do you bidding. If I send a CIA agent to infiltrate and blow up an arms depot or if I pay someone else to do it for me? What's the difference? What about the iran contra? Wasn't that a terrorist organization? Did we not support that organization? Why such hypocrisy? Its OK for us to support terrorist organization but no one else should right? And then there is this

You think *suing* someone makes them evil?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/china-business/7773011/A-look-inside-the-Foxconn-suicide-factory.html
 

Guh, what?

First off, the Dyson Air Multiplier sucks. It generates buckets of high-frequency noise for the airflow it provides. Get a Vornado. Secondly, it was invented thirty years ago:
link.

The rest of the stuff? I have no idea what you're saying. Can one tell the difference from a distance between a Wolf range and a Viking? A Viking and an American Range? Are the red knobs of a Wolf, the squared top of an American range, or the extensions of the knobs of a Bertazzoni enough to tip casual viewers off? No. In the same way that subtle differences between basic jeans don't broadcast branding, an industrial-looking stainless steel range is an industrial-looking stainless steel range to casual viewers.

I have no doubt that plenty of aunts, uncles, grandmas, and little brothers will mistake the Kindle Fire or Nook Tablet for the iPad this season. Why? Because the iPad has become the Kleenex of tablets. Still, the aggregate of "thin, rectangular, glass-fronted, black, and with grabbable edges" is dictated by the currently available technology (glass front), ergonomic requirements (thin, rectangular, grabbable), and current style trends (we're rocking black right now... Here's hoping we never go back to silver fronts for anything, ever). Could Samsung pull a Motorola and make their devices more noisy, complicated, and ugly? Hey, jeans had rubber knee-patches in the '90s, so, yeah, sure. Should everyone be required to gimp their devices because Apple planted a flag on minimal? I certainly hope not.

According to some, the covert war has already started:

* $400 million funding for CIA Iran covert ops program

* Assassinations of Iranian scientists (the ones we know about: Majid Shahriari, Masoud Ali Mohammadi, Majid Shahriari, Fereidoun Abbasi-Davani (survived), Darioush Rezaeinejad)

* Cyber attacks (Stuxnet etc.)

* Sabotage of military/industrial sites (bombing of Isfahan uranium plant)

* Assassinations of military personnel (the head of the Revolutionary Guards missile program)

* And now: 12 CIA operatives arrested in Iran

It's almost as if someone is trying to provoke a full on war...

We're not out to get Iran, we're out to get your water with our rainmachines. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/8527455/Mahmoud-Ahmadinejad-says-Europe-stealing-Irans-rain.html

Islamic terrorists are by far the most common sort in the modern world

Most terrorist acts in Europe are still carried out by Christian Europeans, like the Catalonian separatists in Spain, or the Catholic separatists on Northern Ireland. The most recent major act of terrorism, Anders Breivik's bombing of the Norwegian parliament with 8 dead and subsequent shooting of another 77 people, was...

...on the 22nd of July. Five months ago.

The most recent incident of Islamic terrorism was today:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/afghanistan/8931171/Suicide-bomb-attack-on-Afghan-Nato-base.html

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/lebanese-media-idf-bombed-espionage-devices-uncovered-by-hezbollah-1.399257

...and yesterday:

http://www.mb.com.ph/articles/343369/bomb-gunmen-kill-18-iraq-marks-us-withdrawal

...and the day before:

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/somali-soldiers-killed-suicide-bomb-attack-15054747

...and the day before that:

http://www.jpost.com/Defense/Article.aspx?id=247407

There were probably more, but that was just a cursory search. I could go back further - but the point is the word "common" in my statement. By far the vast majority of attacks are committed by islamic terrorists. Do other terrorists exist? Sure. ...but they're not committing attacks every day.

What are the odds that they dream up a whole bunch of laws to "protect the children" and then local councils use those laws in a totally different context.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/2696031/Anti-terrorism-laws-used-to-spy-on-noisy-children.html
Whilst not a news paper - -
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1053039/Council-use-anti-terror-laws-spy-binmen-accused-accepting-strawberry-pop-bribe-away-trade-waste.html
and many more examples on Google. I don't think I trust them much.

Here in the UK, drones have already been used by civilians to survey the masonary of the Stirling Bridge

The civilian contractors, however, appear to be more adept at handling the technology than Merseyside Police, who forgot to get permission from the Civil Aviation Authority to use their drone, before crashing it in to the River Mersey a year later.

Immediately made me think of the story that came up during the First Gulf War of American cyberwarriors doing this to Saddam's printers, putatively with the result that they could read everything his commanders were printing out.

No telling if it was true (and likely it was apocryphal because this is the sort of hack that stays top secret for as long as it works; see the story of the WW1 invisible ink recipe that remained classified for nearly a century), but it was certainly plausible.

Indeed.

we need stronger regulation of advertising

Following that line of reasoning leads to jail time for claiming that water leads to dehydration.

>>Calm down. The first link which was titled "how not to get heatstroke"

Note that while it is legal in the United States to claim that water can be used to treat dehydration and heatstroke, it may become illegal to do so in the EU: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/8897662/EU-bans-claim-that-water-can-prevent-dehydration.html

Obviously, the high cost of the app was ensuring compliance with all international laws regarding drinking water.

Usual Torygraph/Daily Fail slant as expected. The point was that the EU didn't want manufacturers of bottled water claiming some sort of unsubstantiated health benefit for their product. If you're seriously dehydrated, it's not just a question of necking down as much water as you can.

>>Calm down. The first link which was titled "how not to get heatstroke"

Note that while it is legal in the United States to claim that water can be used to treat dehydration and heatstroke, it may become illegal to do so in the EU:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/8897662/EU-bans-claim-that-water-can-prevent-dehydration.html

Obviously, the high cost of the app was ensuring compliance with all international laws regarding drinking water.

Disagree. Small integrated reactors would solve all of America's energy problems but delete the energy monopolies that ex-government officials post themselves to run. That's why America, as a nation, refuses to invest in nuclear options except in the case of warships, where we have no other choice for power efficiency ratios.

Wind alone is a classic example of lies feeding lies.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/2910739/Wind-farms-fail-to-deliver-value-for-money-report-claims.html

http://www.martinfrost.ws/htmlfiles/scotnews11/110407-wind.html

http://tohatchacrow.blogspot.com/2010/07/scottish-wind-farms-fail-to-deliver.html

http://papundits.wordpress.com/2011/05/02/electrical-power-statistics-renewables-fail-to-deliver-january-2011/

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/275673/texas-wind-energy-fails-again-robert-bryce

http://toryaardvark.com/2011/08/17/wind-turbines-how-long-before-the-golden-eagle-is-extinct/

http://toryaardvark.com/2011/08/22/wind-turbines-now-they-are-a-threat-to-national-security/

http://blogs.dailymail.com/donsurber/archives/46519

http://papundits.wordpress.com/2011/03/04/renewable-power-fail-as-usual-november-2010/

http://wind-works.org/SmallTurbines/SkystreamDeliversLessThanAdvertisedatFrenchTestSite.html

http://carbon-sense.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/why-wind-wont-work.pdf

In response to an accusation that the mentioned statements by Muller's colleague and collaborator, Judith Curry, are "lies" promoted by one biased newspaper, I offer the following:

http://junkscience.com/2011/10/30/curry-damage-control-mullers-oversell-a-mistake-not-a-new-scandal/

http://www.express.co.uk/features/view/280948/Is-global-warming-over-">Curry says no warming "for 13 years".

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100114292/lying-cheating-climate-scientists-caught-lying-cheating-again/

http://tucsoncitizen.com/wryheat/2011/10/31/berkeley-temperature-study-update-colleague-says-claim-was-huge-mistake/

http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/41840

http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Minority.Blogs&ContentRecord_id=65364f00-802a-23ad-4994-117066e014ea

http://www.eutimes.net/2011/10/climate-change-scientist-accused-of-hiding-truth-by-colleague/

As I mentioned in the beginning, the graphs shown in some of these articles are misleading, because the time scales are completely different:

In addition, if you really need more convincing, you can go to Curry's own blog and read her comment yourself.

It was singled out by the BBC. That specific show is "extra", and not everyone wants to pay for it, especially when the narrator isn't as well known in some of the countries as he is back home.

“It would be impossible to do a presenter-less version. Only those countries that accept David as a presenter (and there are many where he is well-known – such as Australia, New Zealand and Scandinavia) could be expected to take episode seven as it stands.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/earthnews/8889541/BBC-drops-Frozen-Planets-climate-change-episode-to-sell-show-better-abroad.html

Here's a better article on the same subject from the same newspaper.

The correct advice would be "Drink water when you are thirsty and when you are sweating[1]." There are no studies showing that drinking while neither thirsty nor sweating would reduce the risk of dehydration.

The EU took a stand against the lobbyist's here. It is the exact opposite of what happened when the US declared pizza a vegetable.

[1] In really dry and hot climate (like a desert) you might not notice that you are sweating, so drink anyways.

Virgin are saddled with crazy debt because the various companies which Virgin is made up of had to collectively dig up almost every residential road in Britain, plus everywhere else they needed to lay fibre (can't sling fibre on telegraph poles). That's not profligacy, that's the cost of entry to the national-telecommunications-provider market. And that's why we're unlikely to see any more real competition any time soon.

Interestingly, NTL's debt, in 2001, was larger than the GDP of Panama (and a substantial list of other countries). debt, list of GDPs

Islam is an evil religion that tells them to kill non muslims. They would use it if teh could get away with it.

Sorry, whatever protection you have against terrorists is highly inefficient. The only reason you aren't dead is because no-one rellay wants to kill you. So no, you are wrong. Most muslims are good people that doesn't want to kill anyone.

Exactly. Chrisq's commentary is based on utter ignorance. There was a large Gallup study about the Muslim community, the largest ever conducted about this topic, published as a book in 2008. In a nutshell, the study shows that Muslims are as peaceful as other people and share amazingly many views with e.g. most Americans. And, not very surprisingly, the very small militant minority among them is primarily motivated by political -- not religious -- reasons just like most other militants.

How about 28% of British Muslims wanting to make Britain an Islamic state or 6% of British Muslims thinking that the tube bombings were wholy justified That is over 170,000 muslims in the UK would like to see us killed. Sorry for ignorantly objecting to it.

(looks like his agents have preemptively modified my previous comment, so it wouldn't link to the story correctly. I am taking another risk here, I don't particularly enjoy polonium 210).
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Oh, also it's good to be a KGB agent and to be in the right place at the right time in history and to be absolutely willing and able to deal with the most shady elements of society to bring any attempt at a democracy to its knees.

It helps when you are a dictator, you can steal a lot of money, especially if the country is resource rich.

Oh, also it's good to be a KGB agent and to be in the right place at the right time in history and to be absolutely willing and able to deal with the most shady elements of society to bring any attempt at a democracy to its knees.

It helps when you are a dictator, you can steal a lot of money, especially if the country is resource rich.

That is so far behind the state of the Art, right now we are able to run a combine-harvester to 2 cm accuracy; your talking about incoherent scribbles and the framers are doing inkjet quality crop-pictures.

Just because PETA says something is unethical doesn't mean it is.

There is nothing unethical about eating meat.

There is nothing unethical about eating whale, they are about as smart as pigs.

There is nothing unethical about eating dog or cat. It's just what you are used to.

It is unethical to try to impose your opinions on others. I'm looking at you herbivores.

But it is unethical to raise children with so little knowledge of where food comes from and how it impacts the environment that they think cows lay eggs.

Never had to pay anything more than the advertised fare + tax + a couple bucks for currency conversion / fees (since I don't live in the UK).

Well, I don't know where you are, but they're still doing bullshit scams like forcing people to pay via their *own* prepaid debit card to avoid fees. But of course, if you forget to cancel that card after 6 months, they charge you £2.50 a month for inactivity, and another £10 if it goes into the red because of the fee.

Given that you have to use this card to avoid paying the "additional" card fee, this is an absolutely blatant attempt to set up ludicrous hoops to be jumped through and then scam them anyway if they try jumping through them. No question that Ryanair are operating in even remotely good faith here.

Anyone know's seen O'Leary being interviewed knows that he clearly isn't disturbed by the fact that people think he's a prick whose attitude towards complainants and customers in general borders on contempt, nor that they dislike Ryanair- so long as they keep on flying with them.

I suspect his logic is that people like to bitch about shitty service and the like, but when push comes to shove they'll still fly with Ryanair because they're the cheapest, so it's worth getting publicity regardless of whether it's flattering or not.

Personally, if I know that they're that desparate to shaft me whichever way I turn and find some other way of costing me money even if I do manage to jump through their hoops without a mistake... am I actually getting it cheap?

Ryanair's boss Michael O'Leary is known for this kind of brainfarts. He knows the press will talk about it for days, so it is all free publicity. He gives a rats ass about the image of the company, since its image is that they are cheap. More of his brilliant ideas: paying for toilets, flying without co-pilot and having a flight attended land it in case of trouble and airplanes with standing room only. They run some provoking advertisements too, like giving the finger to their competitors, or giving holiday suggestions for Berlusconi (he finally resigned a few hours ago!).

Witness the unsanitary conditions and crime in any of the camps.

You got any evidence to back this up or you just plucked it out of the air?

Also, it may be worth investigating the crime aspect to check if the crimes are actually being committed by undercover police or other right wingers looking to drive people away:

http://theweek.com/article/index/220144/the-agent-provocateur-who-infiltrated-occupy-wall-street

There have recently been a number of revelations here in the UK regarding Metropolitan Police officers who posed as political activists for long periods of time. They even helped organise demonstrations or other activities that may even have been illegal:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/8249734/Trial-against-environmental-activists-dropped-after-undercover-Met-police-officer-switches-sides.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Kennedy_(police_officer)

I also remember being on the fringes of a similar movement many years ago which suddenly became overrun with many homeless people who had serious drug problems. This was because the police were moving them on repeatedly from where ever they tried to sleep and telling they would continue to do so unless they descended on us. This is probably another reason for the squalor you describe if it did exist and was not based on a article written by the same agent provocateur who is mentioned above.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/barackobama/4340218/Obamas-new-Blackberry-Speculation-mounts-over-details-of-Presidents-smartphone.html

What you don't seem to grasp is that there are more than one type of fission reactor, probably because the only one that people are told about are the big, squeezed conical towers call fast breeder pressurized water reactors (PWR).

PWRs were designed with the following priorities:
1) nuclear weapons (governments hand the utilities reams of money)
2) make lots of money (re)processing uranium (utilities hand themselves reams of money and call it a "cost")
3) electrical power (and thus more money, but the industry is regulated, so it isn't hand over fist like the above two).
4) safety (costs money, so the less spent the better - just like BP cutting corners on their oil rigs - the lower the cost, the more the profit)

and yet still they cost far less lives than coal and oil.

But if you knew anything about other types of fission reactor like the molten salt reactor experiment from the 1960s or liquid fluoride reactors (LFTR mentioned elsewhere, a modern take on MSR), you'd know we could build scalable, passively safe, self regulating, raw fuel burning reactors for electrical power that are really bad at #1 and don't need #2 and thus utilities don't want to invest any money in the technology because #1 and #2 are cash cows.

Unfortunately, this is not a thorium molten salt reactor like the proposed LFTR and it is more like traditional reactors, but China is working on them, and there are test reactors being built in Japan and Europe (see here for China - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/comment/ambroseevans_pritchard/8393984/Safe-nuclear-does-exist-and-China-is-leading-the-way-with-thorium.html ).

Of course, there are naysayers - http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2011/jun/23/thorium-nuclear-uranium
The author of this was obviously biased against or chose biased views
1) nobody has ever tried to build a thorium molten salt reactor on a larger scale, but even if it ended up not scaling, many small nuclear reactors can be used much closer to residential areas. They don't spew radiation when their container is breached and they don't melt down. They also can be shut off and restarted easily, as Oak Ridge used to do with theirs on the weekends.
2) they will be uneconomic - this is a chicken or egg problem - yes Thorium currently costs about $5000/kg vs $40/kg for Uranium, but it currently is a novelty metal and not mined heavily like Uranium (in fact, it is often buried as waste). It is as abundant as lead and 4x more abundant than Uranium. It also doesn't need refining like Uranium and burns much more efficiently.
3) environmentalists say - "its reactors disgorging the same toxic byproducts and fissile waste with the same millennial half-lives" - hardly - if 97% of it is burnt up, there is 94-96% less nuclear waste than traditional reactors which burn .7%-3% of their fuel.
4) U232 byproduct - I'm not a nuclear scientist, but as I understand it, U233->U232->U233 is the reaction cycle and thus is self recycling. Leftovers can be separated from any other remaining byproducts chemically (you can't separate U233 and U233, but you can other byproducts). U233 mixed with depleted uranium creates natural uranium in time.

Whenever I get asked the question "Has your luggage been out of your sight for any length of time or handled by other people" I really have to bite my tongue to stop saying "Yes .. the taxi driver loaded/unloaded my luggage and I haven't seen it for the last hour or so" .. That would be the honest answer, but unfortunately that would be the wrong way to answer.

Check out this story It's about dwarves being put in suitcases and smuggled into coach holds to steal from other passengers cases during the journey.

What's to stop one putting a little something extra in one of the cases?

My luggage doesn't leave my sight until it's checked in. Ever.

Actually... This article seems to suggest the Chinese aren't hacking to steal our secrets. I'd find it amusing if they were just repeatedly making silly half-hearted attempts at breaking into our systems just to throw us off the trail of the real problem: people who've lost faith in their country. Well, that and greed. Probably mostly greed. Still, not the TECHNO-warriors of China.... that does sound better.

I read the headline as:
"US Defends UNESCO After Palestine Vote"

Anyway... today's news is reporting Benjamin Netanyahu calling for accelerated construction in the West Bank and Israel effectively punishing Palestinians for the Unesco move .

Can someone with a clear understanding of the situation please explain how this these actions by Israel are Just? Is Israel encroaching on Palestinian land?

Hey, you might not want to bet on that so far! Some analysts speculate America could be largely energy independent in just 5-10 years thanks to new extraction techniques. America today imports far less than we did even 5 years ago.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/comment/ambroseevans_pritchard/8844646/World-power-swings-back-to-America.html

As best I recall Kenya is fast becoming a new call center out sourcing hot spot. Population is already fluent in English, well educated,, they gained serious Internet fiber optic capacity in 2009, similar time zone to Europe, especially good for British customer support.

Obama has done this before. The number one question submitted was whether legalizing marijuana would contribute positively to the economy, in terms of providing jobs, tax revenue, and freeing up resources spent on law enforcement.

Obama laughed and said no. There was no discussion of any of the issues. I see no reason to believe he will take this any more seriously than he did before.

How long does he think he can keep up this charade of openness?

Those that aren't in the "We took 30 cancer patients and asked them if they used cell phones" category have generally not been statistically significant.

There's a good article about it here: http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/tomchiversscience/100090300/do-mobile-phones-really-cause-cancer-probably-not-again/ from a little earlier this year.

Generally, phones causing cancer is much more "interesting" than phones not causing cancer, so the studies that show even the slightest hint that they might garner far more attention from the media than they probably should, whereas those that don't have to be much more significant (like this one) before they get decent coverage.

Can you explain why NATO intervened to "protect the civilians" when Gaddafi's forces were shelling rebel-held cities, but stand back when rebel forces similarly shell cities held by Gaddafi's supporters?

How about the fact that rebels have instituted massive pogroms against Libya's black population, accusing them all - indiscriminately! - of being supporters of the old regime (I'm sure you've heard the phrase "African mercenaries" more than once), even with respect to people who are clearly civilians? The scale of this is large enough that several international human rights organizations have already noticed and are trying to raise awareness. But I haven't heard of any NATO intervention to stop this, despite their mandate saying exactly this.

What about purges of entire towns where population remained loyal to Gaddafi?

Gaddafi was a dictator, and I won't shed any tears about him. It does not excuse direct military intervention in a foreign country to blindly support one side in a civil war - ignoring any human right violations and war crimes committed by that side for the sake of political expeidence.

But then, that's nothing new for Western countries - we've seen it all in Kosovo back in 1999.

No I personally think that it is being used as an excuse to leech money and frankly it doesn't matter WHAT the climate data says because as far as those running the AGW show are concerned its cash in time baby yeah!

For example Rev Al Gore, who has a house with an indoor basketball court and drives a fleet of SUVs is set to become a carbon billionaire, the ones who cooked up credit default swaps, aka economy killers? Yeah guess whose writing the rules for the carbon market? Those who are on the AGW bandwagon might want to watch this video to see how EASY it is to game the system. And it WILL be gamed my friend, billions are at stake!

Now watch how quickly I disappear thanks to mods by those that follow the AGW religion. For those that make fun of believers in a sky bully they certainly don't like having any of their "Gods" defamed, do they? Even though I have provided links to the evidence right there for them to see. Here is the truth of AGW: That frankly IT DOESN'T MATTER what the data says, because the leeches and vampires at the top 1% of the heap have ALREADY FIGURED OUT HOW TO PROFIT MASSIVELY so that in the end carbon will NOT go down, it'll just get moved on the books, the same way they moved money from YOUR pockets to THEIRS during the last "crisis". And folks wonder why so many don't support AGW? Could it be that the pigs have already lined up to take a chunk of your wallet while filling their sacks with gold?

Have a few numbers:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/nov/25/christian-brothers-abuse-payout [guardian.co.uk]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23521616/ns/us_news-faith/t/catholic-sex-abuse-payouts-top-million/ [msn.com]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1557479/Roman-Catholic-Church-agrees-sexual-abuse-payout.html [telegraph.co.uk]

http://life.nationalpost.com/2011/08/18/clergy-abuse-payouts-pushing-dublin-archdiocese-toward-bankruptcy/ [nationalpost.com]

http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/Catholic+Church+seeks+limit+abuse+payouts+Germany/3605154/story.html [montrealgazette.com]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/jun/24/usa.danglaister [guardian.co.uk]

http://vivekajyoti.blogspot.com/2011/03/catholic-jesuits-in-166-million-abuse.html [blogspot.com]

http://www.vaticancrimes.us/2011/01/catholic-abuse-victims-offered-firm.html [vaticancrimes.us]

The response has been documented to have AGGRAVATED the problem, and continued over decades.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/nov/25/christian-brothers-abuse-payout [guardian.co.uk]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23521616/ns/us_news-faith/t/catholic-sex-abuse-payouts-top-million/ [msn.com]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1557479/Roman-Catholic-Church-agrees-sexual-abuse-payout.html [telegraph.co.uk]

http://life.nationalpost.com/2011/08/18/clergy-abuse-payouts-pushing-dublin-archdiocese-toward-bankruptcy/ [nationalpost.com]

http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/Catholic+Church+seeks+limit+abuse+payouts+Germany/3605154/story.html [montrealgazette.com]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/jun/24/usa.danglaister [guardian.co.uk]

http://vivekajyoti.blogspot.com/2011/03/catholic-jesuits-in-166-million-abuse.html [blogspot.com]

http://www.vaticancrimes.us/2011/01/catholic-abuse-victims-offered-firm.html [vaticancrimes.us]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/nov/25/christian-brothers-abuse-payout

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23521616/ns/us_news-faith/t/catholic-sex-abuse-payouts-top-million/

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1557479/Roman-Catholic-Church-agrees-sexual-abuse-payout.html

http://life.nationalpost.com/2011/08/18/clergy-abuse-payouts-pushing-dublin-archdiocese-toward-bankruptcy/

http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/Catholic+Church+seeks+limit+abuse+payouts+Germany/3605154/story.html

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/jun/24/usa.danglaister

http://vivekajyoti.blogspot.com/2011/03/catholic-jesuits-in-166-million-abuse.html

http://www.vaticancrimes.us/2011/01/catholic-abuse-victims-offered-firm.html

Sheesh wrong link for assistant http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/mobile-app-reviews/8823587/SpeakToIt-Android-app-review.html This is the correct link

Bees are where it's at

Oh you want to see how quick one can get modded troll, watch this: Isn't kinda funny how the ONLY solution being pushed is cap and trade by Al Gore, who just so happens to have himself set up to be a billionaire off of crap and trade? or that the same ones that set up credit default swaps, aka economy killers, are now writing the laws for crap and trade? Maybe some ought to watch this video to see just how easy it is to make MASSIVE MONIES while scamming the fuck out of crap and trade?

You watch how quick THAT gets downmodded, because Rev Al Gore has made AGW into the new religion and all that oppose his massive wealth redistribution (much into his own pockets) into the new heretics. It would be like me moving money from my right to left pocket, calling it wealth redistribution , demanding AND GETTING a tax break for it! The guy lives in a McMansion, drives a personal Lear jet and a fleet of SUVs and then has the balls to tell ME to take the bus? To quote Mr Garrison "You go to hell Al Gore, you go to hell and you die!"

Wonder if any of those six locations will again include the IT powerhouse of Hambleden, Oxfordshire?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/news/6686406/BT-criticised-over-broadband-access-for-chairman.html/

Damn, no more obituaries about Graham Dilley today. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituaries/sport-obituaries/8809427/Graham-Dilley.html

It only comes down to a question of how determined your ISP/government is to block you. If the ISP's really wanted to, they could keep an active running blacklist of all of all IP's associated with Telecomix and other proxy sites (the way Websense and other blocking software companies do). It would never be perfect, but it would be pretty damned effective for all but the most determined/informed geeks. And, even worse, if the government really wanted to, they could just keep a tally of everyone even trying to access those IP's and kick down your door one night to drag you off to a prison cell somewhere.

Fortunately, this sort of behavior is pretty uncommon in most developed countries, but don't kid yourself. If they *really* wanted to shut you up, they could. All they have to do is throw up enough obstacles and threats. And, as a last resort, they can even just pull the plug altogether (like they did in San Francisco during the BART protests, and in Egypt during the protests there). Most ISP's cave pretty quickly when soldiers show up with rifles and tanks.