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His Presentation from the 2004 H.O.P.E.
I saw Mr. Rambam speak at the previous H.O.P.E. - he gave a presentation entitled "Privacy: Not What It Used to Be." It's available online in MP3 and M3U format.
Definitely worth a listen: he's onto the privacy violations committed by our Government in cooperation with private corporations. After listening to what he has to say, you'll understand why the government would target him. -
Rambam speaking
On the subject of Rambam check out previous talks given at HOPE conferences. He's a good speaker and quite interesting on the topic of information availability. He stated a couple of weeks ago in an interview leading up to this conference's talk that he had planed to do the same basic presentation at the last hope but the "victim" got cold feet at the last moment after he realized just how much information was available and threatened to sue. If you listen to the old presentations he does make a point that almost any information is available legally but it is more difficult to get it legally than illegally. I have to believe from hearing him speak several time that what he would have done for this presentation would at least to be best of his knowledge been legal.
Four previous presentations.
Privacy - Not What It Used To Be
http://www.the-fifth-hope.org/mp3/privacy.mp3
Databases and Privacy
http://h2k2.hope.net/media/databases.mp3
Information on the Masses with Steve Rambam.
http://h2k.hope.net/post/panels/h2kinfo.mp3
Info for Masses
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Re:again..
I would like to suggest looking up Robert Steele and open source intelligence. He gave a four-plus-hour presentation on the topic at The Fifth Hope, the audio of which can be found on the Fifth Hope site in five parts.
I would like to suggest that you listen to his ideas before discarding this idea as a waste of time and effort. Then, if you still want to discard the idea, at least you are making an informed decision.
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Re:again..
I would like to suggest looking up Robert Steele and open source intelligence. He gave a four-plus-hour presentation on the topic at The Fifth Hope, the audio of which can be found on the Fifth Hope site in five parts.
I would like to suggest that you listen to his ideas before discarding this idea as a waste of time and effort. Then, if you still want to discard the idea, at least you are making an informed decision.
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Re:again..
I would like to suggest looking up Robert Steele and open source intelligence. He gave a four-plus-hour presentation on the topic at The Fifth Hope, the audio of which can be found on the Fifth Hope site in five parts.
I would like to suggest that you listen to his ideas before discarding this idea as a waste of time and effort. Then, if you still want to discard the idea, at least you are making an informed decision.
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Re:again..
I would like to suggest looking up Robert Steele and open source intelligence. He gave a four-plus-hour presentation on the topic at The Fifth Hope, the audio of which can be found on the Fifth Hope site in five parts.
I would like to suggest that you listen to his ideas before discarding this idea as a waste of time and effort. Then, if you still want to discard the idea, at least you are making an informed decision.
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Re:again..
I would like to suggest looking up Robert Steele and open source intelligence. He gave a four-plus-hour presentation on the topic at The Fifth Hope, the audio of which can be found on the Fifth Hope site in five parts.
I would like to suggest that you listen to his ideas before discarding this idea as a waste of time and effort. Then, if you still want to discard the idea, at least you are making an informed decision.
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Re:again..
I would like to suggest looking up Robert Steele and open source intelligence. He gave a four-plus-hour presentation on the topic at The Fifth Hope, the audio of which can be found on the Fifth Hope site in five parts.
I would like to suggest that you listen to his ideas before discarding this idea as a waste of time and effort. Then, if you still want to discard the idea, at least you are making an informed decision.
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Re:Long before "Open Source" meant software....
Parent is correct, go look up Richard Steele, who heads something called Open Source Solutions (oss.net), and basically advocates that the U.S. spend a lot more time monitoring 'open source' info, instead of spending billions to get spy satellite imagery that tells us nothing about intent.
Interestingly, he has given some speeches at hacker conventions, such as at H2k2 and the Fifth HOPE. You can download his speeches if you follow the links.
I believe the press also uses the term "open source" to refer to a public statement.
It's pretty funny to see Slashdot types get upset over people "stealing" their terms, when those terms are actually older than their use of them... Do they realize that outside of Slashdot, terms like "developer" or "editor" mean totally different things from how we use them? -
The Fifth Hope had some good lectures on this ...From: http://www.the-fifth-hope.org/hoop/5hope_speakers
. khtmlHow the Great Firewall Works
Bill Xia
http://www.the-fifth-hope.org.nyud.net:8090/mp3/gr eat-firewall.mp3 http://www.the-fifth-hope.org.nyud.net:8090/mp3/gr eat-firewall.m3uCult of the Dead Cow Hactivism Panel
Eric Grimm, Sharon Hom, Dr. James Mulvenon, Oxblood Ruffin, Nart Villeneuve
http://www.the-fifth-hope.org.nyud.net:8090/mp3/cd c-hacktivism-1.mp3 http://www.the-fifth-hope.org.nyud.net:8090/mp3/cd c-hacktivism-1.m3u http://www.the-fifth-hope.org.nyud.net:8090/mp3/cd c-hacktivism-2.mp3 http://www.the-fifth-hope.org.nyud.net:8090/mp3/cd c-hacktivism-2.m3u -
Mitnick spoke at The Fifth HopeHere is a link to the speaker page: http://www.the-fifth-hope.org/hoop/5hope_speakers
. khtml. Scroll or search to get Kevin's speech (two parts; audio only or audio plus video). I got to speak with him a little at the conference, as well as some family members (including his grandmother, who was featured in Freedom Downtime).Kevin was very personable, and has clearly given a lot of thought to his current phase in life as a security expert. As you might expect from his background, Kevin has a keen mind for remembering details, and observing human interaction. That's part of what I like about his books, as well as from his presentation at The Fifth Hope.
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Re:That will impress the chicks
You're joking, but I heard this guy speak at HOPE and apart from his choice of shirts it was a great talk. He really knows what he's talking about and he's dedicated to the project; he mentioned having to use a flashbulb to read dot-matrix printouts of the first few months of posts on the first BBS because the ink had faded by now.
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Re:Quirks and Quarks
I have to second the Quirks and Quarks show, it is truly superb
The 2600 group has archives of their shows going back to 1986, there
is a great wealth of hacking and phreaking information under the title
'off the hook', http://www.2600.com/
You can also find other shows produced by Emanuel, like the 'Off The Wall'
and the 'Brain Damage'.
2600 also have organized few different hacker conferences (hope series)
and two most recent conferences have all of the audio online:
http://www.the-fifth-hope.org/hoop/5hope_speakers. khtml
conference from 2004, over 70 speakers, tons of listening material on
variety of topics like lockpicking, hacking, social engineering, spies
and even info on Romania's IT.. First Hope conference to which Kevin
Mitnick showed up to.
http://www.h2k2.net/panels.html
conference from 2002, everything online, also a great variety
http://www.h2k.net/panels.html
conference from 2000, not everything is in mp3 form
the author mentioned audio books, I am not sure what audiobooks he has
been listening to but there is alot of choice, you dont have to listen
to Robert Jordans another WoT 1000 page book, you can pick up an audio
book that satisfies your 'geekinees', here are books that I am waiting
at my library to take out and listen in my car:
- Bill Bryson - A Short History Of Nearly Everything
- Richard P Feynman - What Do You Care What Other People Think
- Richard Wolfson - Einstein's Relativity and the Quantum Revolution
- Stephne Hawking - Breif History of Time
Another thing that the person might look into are abridged books. I had
a chance to listen to the 'Time Machine' that was abridged down to two
hours. He could listen first part on the way to work, and second part
on the way back. It definitelly is different listening to a two hour
abridged book than listening to a 45hour unabridged book.
enjoy
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Re:List of Chinese Banned WebsitesMore accurately they have a complex system in place starting at the router level and working down, that evaluates traffic and content.
There was a talk about the Great Firewall at this past summers HOPE conference. I'm not sure how much you can get out of just the audio without the slides, but you can find the talk HERE entitled "How the Great Firewall Works". Its about halfway down the page.
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Re:If you're a foreigner...There was a presentation on the Great Firewall at the HOPE conference last summer. I didn't catch all of it, as it was just as I arrived, but as I recall, all the filtering of content goes on at the router and DNS levels. All traffic through the country is filtered, but only some is acted upon. However all content is affected on a performance level.
There are automated processes in place for blocking some content, and there are automated processes that evaluate material once it is accessed in a certain pattern. There is also a manual evaluation in which material is reviewed.
There was also something about logging of IPs and caching, so review can be done later for information that can't be determined up front. All of this combines for a list of IPs, a cache of content, and a number of filtering algorithms that fairly effectively block material. However stuff does get through, but only sparsely. If one IP starts hitting a site over and over, or many people start hitting it, it draws attention.
You can download the talk at this site. Scroll down to the one entitled "How the Great Firewall works"
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Re:Reminds me of a story about Steve WozniakHe spoke for a few hours at The Fifth HOPE and didn't mention anything like that. Talked about phreaking stuff, but didn't mention that.
If you weren't there, you can download the keynote here.
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Re:Too bad Re-code.com isn't still around!
I saw the guys who did Re-code.com at 2600's 5th hope this summer in NYC.
You can hear their speech here.
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Re:I'll venture a guess:
Please don't call Bill Gates and Steve Jobs great innovators. You're making me cringe.
Steve Wozniak, yes. His recent speeches at The Fifth Hope were very inspiring, just listening to him enthuse about getting a theoretical computer he'd invented down from needing many chips to just a few because he couldn't afford to buy many chips.
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Heard about this at Fifth HOPE
I first heard about this at the Fifth H.O.P.E conference in NY over the summer. During the Cult of the Dead Cow Hactivism panel, one of the panelists - a hacker-researcher from Toronto - reported that many foreign countries blocked the URLs of legitimate political sites due to the sexual connotations of the word "Bush."
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Re:no mas no mas!I'll put that $120/mo into something more worth while and any shows that I deem worthy enough to waste my time watching, I'll just grab from bit torrent.
Too well said! Hat's off to you my friend (be it black or white ;). You are wise beyond your years sir, for one who is not yet 30!
But I'd like two remind you of 2 basic hacker tenets:- Conservation of energy. i.e. Laziness as a virtue, not a vice.
- Computers are toys to be played with.
Now, with that in mind I can think of some MUCH better uses of that $120 per month.
First things first, hop on over to levenger for some book storage. When I'm through with you you'll turn off that idiot-box altogether! Well, except for quality DVDs and TV shows (which are becoming all the more scarcer by the moment, don't even get me started on that topic!)!
So, unless you already have an AMPLE solution (meaning a decent bookcase with lots of pictures, carded star wars figures, hummels or whatever the heck you may be into) you're gonna NEED some first rate book-stashage! :D
Not that there's anything at all with grabbing a bit-torrent of something that's not yet out on DVD. And in my mind Netflix is a perfectly fine solution! Just more convenient than torrenting, less brain cycles that could be devoted to reading. If you haven't already, I'd highly recommend treating yourself to Lain and to Cowboy BeBop, as well as City of Lost Children.
But if you're a coder, I really honestly feel that developing fascility with Assembly is a good move. I am only part way through a great book from No Starch called [CAUTION:PDF] the "Art of Assembly" that (in the short time I've been reading it) has allowed me to tighten up my C++ code a bit! I cant wait to see the result when I am finished! I also planning to read another book I have on Assembly, but this one is so good I'm not sure how much I'll need it! I'll probably read that second book anyway though. The author contends that no matter WHAT the language in question, be it C, C++, Java, Perl, Ruby, Python, or Lisp, your coding will benefit.
I accidentally ran into the president of No Starch at the last 2600 conference. His name is Bill, and he's a really mellow very nice dude! I've been emailing him back and forth and he was nice enough to email me sample chapters from the upcoming title "Enterprise Linux Clustering". Honestly I haven't given them a thorough read, just a perusal but it seems top notch so far! I honeslty believe that No Starch is developing into the "New O'Reilly". Not in every sense of course, because O'Reilly's website is far more developed in the form of information and online instructive articles and news. Not even to mention that I have yet to be disappointed by an O'Reilly release! But NS is DEFINETLY an admirable up and commer!
Once you're through a good set of skill building in Assmebler, you can reinforce your mad skillz by moving onto what will eventually be a 3 part series specifically written for people wo like their High languages like C++ or Perl or whatever called "Writing Great Code" by the same author as the Assembly book. I understand the series to focus mostly on machine archictecture, rather than assembly which will benefit every coder from Assember on up to C or maybe even VB. From there you can move onto some more interesting uses for your newfound knowledge (sorry if I'm incorrectly assuming you to not be a veteran Assembly yoda). What's the fun of writing ANY language if all you get to write is "Hello World" shite? So you can move on to cool and useful things like how to crackpro -
Re:Mitnick stories...
the real crime is charging $50 a head to hear him spout his rubbish. Seriously, all H.O.P.E. was was an excuse to sell t-shirts and get drunk in New York for people like him.
Not entirely true. This is what you get for $50:
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Re:cDc and 2600
Sure, they have. But in combination with the Mao style banners they display, I wonder if all this is a combination of artistic interpretation and lack of technical topics or the "hackers" movement becomes yet another left-wing pseudo-technical pseudo-political organization. Because if the latter is true than it means that there are also some true hackers, who probably do not visit such events and I wonder if we can read more about the latter...
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HOPE is ultra political, and will suck this yearI cancelled my trip to HOPE this year to avoid the political bullshit that's almost guarranteed to dominate the con. Here's what I wrote in my blog:
I'm starting to get really disturbed by the politics going on right now.
There's nothing wrong with questioning your government. When you start blindly protesting every single action of the government, I think it's time to take a step back and get a little perspective on things.
I'm starting to think twice about going to HOPE next month. Last time I went (2002) it was *incredibly* political. Jello Biafra gave a talk, and said a bunch of things about the "Bush conspiracy"--stuff that was easily debunked as bullshit on snopes.com--but everyone there just ate it up like it was hard fact. Random people would yell out "Bush sucks!" and everyone would laugh like it was the funniest shit in the world.
I've never seen a better example of herd mentality in my life. This is free thinking?
This was before the war, and before I gave a shit one way or the other about Bush and his policies, and I was probably more than likely to say "fuck Bush" based on what I knew about him at the time... and I still remember looking around and thinking these were a bunch of anarchist-wannabe children (many of whom were well past childhood.)
This was supposed to be a gathering of free-thinking people... individuals. Instead, it was a bunch of scene whores trying to act cool in front of "all the other hackers"... spouting ill-informed mass-media opinions without any actual information to back it up. And then they have the nerve to talk about how fucked up the media is. Hah. I'd feel different if I had seen anything but eagerly nodding heads slack-jawed idiots drinking up the bullshit like it was gospel.
I donno, I'd like to go to HOPE, it'd be fun in some ways... but I just cringe every time I think of the immature shit that Emannuel used to spout on his radio show, and I can only imagine how much more political HOPE will be with the current assault on Bush. Something tells me I won't really enjoy myself too much there.
I bet money that they show Fahrenheit 911 in the screening room and spend endless hours spouting mindless propaganda. And no, I'm not trolling. I'm not even a republican. I just hate people who don't think things through for themselves.
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Quite the line up!
HOPE is boasting quite an impressive lineup of folks this year. I hope they offer videos again for the folks who can't make it.
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They're using a MoinMoin Wiki...
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They're using a MoinMoin Wiki...
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Re:Can't they get some new blood?
Actually, John Draper is scheduled to give a talk on spam, of all things. His presentation is entitled "Where'd All That Spam Come From?" and it's on Friday.
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McDonalds connection?
I wonder what sort of thought process went into the art at the top of the page.
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Hacking National Security Redux
Hey guys, sorry for the repost! I know this is bad, no TERRIBLE netiquette. But it was attached to a story that only garnered 9 comments, but I really think that more people should know and think about this stuff. I hope the same thing doesn't happen to this story, or my name'll really be mud!
:D
A couple of years ago at the last "HOPE" conference was the first time I heard of this idea of the "deep web". This year's shindig is happening July 9th through the 11th. I wonder if chosing those those dates was merely a coincidence this...
The topic was something called "Hacking National Security" in wchich the speaker, Robert Steele, first brought up this concept and mentioned what he described as a "deep web search engine" called Copernic. However, I've found that product (there is a free variant) basically queries a list of different search engines. This is not what I would consider a "deep web search" now that I have learned a little more about the term. But that was the first I'd heard of it.
Robert Steele can be forgiven for being a bit technically naive. Because his specialty is National Security and not technology. But he had a lot to say that was of salient interest to technology minded folks. Why else would he have had a panel discussion at a hacker conference?
What I learned from him is that search engines like google and others only are able to skim roughly 5% of the total content of the web. Everything underneath that 5% is the "Deep Web". This is what he claimed the global terror networks are using to communicate with each other. And, most alarmingly, that the NSA - Amerca's Information Processing branch of the government was COMPLETELY ill equiped, even ignorant of terror groups freely trafficking their plans on the web. Talk about our most "advanced" information processing governmental body! Note the lack of a CNAME entry in their DNS record! Don't forget the "www" now! yeesh! At any rate I read an interesting book about them way back in the 80s called The Puzzle Palace. But I'm sure it's way dated by now. I read it way back in 87. Did you know that they are roughly 3 times the size and girth of the CIA...and yet hardly any of the lay populace seems to have heard of them! I once dated a "know it all" (how do you ever learn anything if you already "know it all"?) bad-poetry, arty farty girlfriend who claimed that I was "making the whole thing up" when I tried explaining to her about the NSA! May I say again, "yeesh"? Literally COULD NOT convince her otherwise...I digress...
Now hold on a minute here! Just how dated would you suppose that book to have been? One of Robert Steele's pet peeves was the extreme datedness of NSA tecnology. Being a government agency (FLAGSHIP of intelligence agencies!) a good hunk of their computer technology dated back to the 70s. This was still the case as of 2002, mind you, and if I understood him correctly.
Now, another of his compaints was the lack of native speakers hired by the agency. That is, instead of hiring a native Pashto speaker, they will instead almost unerringly hire the "blond haired, blue eyed, cocky midwestern jock" (his words not mine) -
Hacking National Security
A couple of years ago at the last "HOPE" conference (this year's is happening July 9-11, this summer) was the first time I heard of this idea of the "deep web".
The topic was something called "Hacking National Security" in wchich the speaker, Robert Steele, first brought up this concept and mentioned what he described as a "deep web search engine" called Copernic. However, I've found that product (there is a free variant) is basically queries a list of different search engines. This is not what I would consider a "deep web search" now that I have learned a little more about the term. But that was the first I'd heard of it.
Robert Steele can be forgiven for being a bit technically naive. Because his specialty is National Security and not technology. But he had a lot to say that was of salient interest to technology minded folks. Why else would he have had a panel discussion at a hacker conference?
What I learned from him is that search engines like google and others only are able to skim roughly 5% of the total content of the web. Everything underneath that 5% is the "Deep Web". This is what he claimed the global terror networks are using to communicate with each other. And, most alarmingly, that the NSA - Amerca's Information Processing branch of the government was COMPLETELY ill equiped, even ignorant of terror groups freely trafficking their plans on the web. Talk about our most "advanced" information processing governmental body! Note the lack of a CNAME entry in their DNS record! Don't forget the "www" now! yeesh! At any rate I read an interesting book about them way back in the 80s called The Puzzle Palace. But I'm sure it's way dated by now. I read it way back in 87. Did you know that they are roughly 3 times the size and girth of the CIA...and yet hardly any of the lay populace seems to have heard of them! I once dated a "know it all" (how do you ever learn anything if you already "know it all"?) bad-poetry, arty farty girlfriend who claimed that I was "making the whole thing up" when I tried explaining to her about the NSA! May I say again, "yeesh"? Literally COULD NOT convince her otherwise...I digress...
Now hold on a minute here! Just how dated would you suppose that book to have been? One of Robert Steele's pet peeves was the extreme datedness of NSA tecnology. Being a government agency (FLAGSHIP of intelligence agencies!) a good hunk of their computer technology dated back to the 70s. This was still the case as of 2002, mind you, and if I understood him correctly.
Now, another of his compaints was the lack of native speakers hired by the agency. That is, instead of hiring a native Pashto speaker, they will instead almost unerringly hire the "blond haired, blue eyed, cocky midwestern jock" (his words not mine) with a degree from an Ivy League school in linguistics who has a generalists knowledge. What's wrong with a young PHD in linguistics tending to these matters? According to Mr Steele that even the best generalists knowledge will not catch the flavor or nuance of language spoken on the terror sites. What's lost in the translation? Not much...if you don't count our National Security.
Also according to him, the "terrorist community" (I know that's an over-used term in this day and age...please try to bear with me, here) knows this and thrives doing so.
One major point of contention he had wa -
speakers
Interestingly, there is also a request for speakers.