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Yep, this fool did an interview on The Linux Show. You can find it in the archives for 13 July 2004: Announcement | Ogg Audio Quite a heated debate in the latter half. -- jhansonxi of MadPenguin.Org

Yep, this fool did an interview on The Linux Show. You can find it in the archives for 13 July 2004: Announcement | Ogg Audio Quite a heated debate in the latter half. -- jhansonxi of MadPenguin.Org

Yep, this fool did an interview on The Linux Show. You can find it in the archives for 13 July 2004: Announcement | Ogg Audio Quite a heated debate in the latter half. -- jhansonxi of MadPenguin.Org

I got started in the computer field when I was flipping through the channels and landed on TechTV. TechTV is where I learned about Linux. I am currently about half way through my CS degree and loving it. I never would have made to this point without TechTV. I will miss it. Oh well, at leasst there is still the Linux Show to listen too.

A few links here.

Audio interview here.

A few links here.

Audio interview here.

Head on over and listen in.

The Linux Show had an interesting feature this week about SCO and the Linux editor, Steve Vaughan from Eweek presented his view of Darl McBride after having met him multiple times since the whole SCO issue started. According to him, Darl McBride is an achiever, and if you can, for a second, believe in what he's doing, like he does, you will make amazed at his dedication. According to him, McBride will not give up until the last vestiges of SCO are thrown out of court. He will accept anything other than a defeat in the court. It is an interesting show to listen to, give it a shot

The Linux Show had an interesting feature this week about SCO and the Linux editor, Steve Vaughan from Eweek presented his view of Darl McBride after having met him multiple times since the whole SCO issue started. According to him, Darl McBride is an achiever, and if you can, for a second, believe in what he's doing, like he does, you will make amazed at his dedication. According to him, McBride will not give up until the last vestiges of SCO are thrown out of court. He will accept anything other than a defeat in the court. It is an interesting show to listen to, give it a shot

It is decent and has archives. Check it out at http://www.thelinuxshow.com/ .

The Linux Show is good.

www.thelinuxshow.com - discussion of the current news as it affects Linux - Interesting guests - lots of Micro$oft bashing - often very interesting.

Also, The Linux Show: The original weekly Open Source/GNU/Linux webcast talk show.

Disclamer: David Mohring/NZheretic is soon going to be more closely connected to the Linux Show.

The Linux Show! Live every Tuesday night, 20:00 Central Time (they're in Illinois, USA).

They also have archives (link on the front page), and an IRC channel.

If you take the trouble on filing a formal complain to the SEC you could actualy make a difference.

Second the MS antitrust judge Kollar Kotelly needs to be informed as well. What MS is doing is directly against her ruling.

You might get a kick out of reading Twenty five rules to suppress truth. The url was send to me and others from Jeff at TheLinuxshow today.

The point of the letter was a follow-up to Sun's comment that they were a "friend of Opensource". There is no metric for what it takes to be a Friend and Eric wanted to put a stake in the ground for what this would entail.

The OpenSource / Torvalds creed of "Show me".

Please note that there is no accusations in Eric's letter. It would have been easy to include the SCO/ Sun tie but he refrained from doing so.

The point of the letter was a follow-up to Sun's comment that they were a "friend of Opensource". There is no metric for what it takes to be a Friend and Eric wanted to put a stake in the ground for what this would entail.

The OpenSource / Torvalds creed of "Show me".

Please note that there is no accusations in Eric's letter. It would have been easy to include the SCO/ Sun tie but he refrained from doing so.

Go to TheLinuxShowwebcast from LinuxWorld today and listen to segment 2 (Interview with IBM).

Then ask yourselves if IBM will let the little Piss Ant SCO put this in peril.

Not a chance

PS Use MPlayer in Lieu of the horrid RealPlayer

Click Here if you want to hear it.

Click Here if you want to hear it.

On the second half yesterday of Thelinuxshow Evan Leibovitch the President of LPI was interviewed.

He had a surprising amount of insights even for someone , like me, that has been following Linux for years.

If you have some spare time you can download yesterdays show and listen to the second half, Well worth it.

Who exactly is this story talking about? The "Open Source Community" is being represented in the article by someone called Jeff Gerhardt. Familiar name? Not to me... seems to be the host of a radio show about Linux.

The fact that he has an email from Eric Raymond hardly qualifies him as a representative of the entire Open Source community. If you read the quotes from the email it is not an approach to SCO either.

If this article said that OSI, FSF, OSDL, Linus, etc. had approached SCO it might have been worth posting. In its current form it would be better titled "Some guy with radio show hands out copies of email from Eric Raymond".

John.

Did anyone else hear the interview with Marc Fleury on the linux show from a couple of months ago? At best, he came off sounding like quite an odd fellow. Just listening to the interview was painful enough; I can't imagine working for him.

Here's the link to the show archive if you want to listen. The interview with him starts about 3 or 4 minutes into the show.

There are actually multiple lobbies for tech related issues. Some are just starting out, though most have some efforts occuring right now.

The first that has to be mentioned -- even if some moderator is hostile to it -- is the grandaddy Free Software Foundation, though there are others if that one is somehow not to your liking;

Bruce Perens has 3 efforts at the Global Technology Policy Institute.

The folks at The Linux Show often promote two efforts; GeekPac and American Open Technology Consortium

...and I'm sure that is not a complete list. If you can't support one, support one of the others.

Geekpac is the only one that I know of right now. It is still forming up so it will not be much of a force in this election. The people behind The Linux Show are behind this PAC,

These people are trying to set one up. They're affiliated with the American Open Technology Consortium. If I understand the relationships, it's sort of like the Sierra Club's political wing as opposed to their lobbying/educational wing.

Unfortunately they don't seem to have their act together yet. For instance, I sent the AOTC some seed money about three months ago and the check hasn't been cashed yet. Their manifesto shows them only having received three pledges, which I think means it hasn't been updated in several months. GeekPAC is still working on authority to operate as a political action committee (there's a lot of legal mumbo-jumbo involved), but is taking donations on the assumption that approval will be granted.

And, my final gripe is, the name GeekPAC has to go. It's fine as a nickname among geeks, but outside the community the name "geek" carries some prett negative connotations. Might as well call it "WeirdoPAC" or "GoonPAC" or something.

Don't get me wrong, I hope these are just growing pains on the way to an organization that can play with the big boys and occasionally win.

We have GeekPAC, founded by the guys who do The Linux Show and it needs your support.

We have GeekPAC, founded by the guys who do The Linux Show and it needs your support.

have you heard about the linux show?

also, I dont want to be redundant, but NPR always has something interseting

I agree with the article that hacking, like art, promotes ideas that challenge that status quo, and is therefore an effective form of activism. However, it's not enough to promote new ideas if those who are benefiting from the status quo you are challenging have the power to suppress them. Should artists who create controversial work which other people then want to ban just stick to creating the best art they can and let the "experts" decide whether anyone should be allowed to see it? Obviously not, artists sometimes need to be advocates for their work, and so do geeks.

The problem is, politics is selfish and irrational, while geeks as a whole tend to be an altruistic, reasonable bunch. The same qualities that make a good geek make a bad politician, which is a compliment to geeks. Look at our main advocacy organization, the EFF, they are too nice! They concentrate on grassroots education, not on lobbying. Meanwhile, the RIAA and MPAA are holding a financial gun to the head of Congress. It's not because there's any public support for the RIAA / MPAA position, there isn't even any public awareness of it, which is the problem. The RIAA / MPAA would never be able to generate public support for their position, but they can generate large checks that can buy elections.

I would not want the EFF to stoop to those tactics, but someone needs to stoop to them if we want to counter the RIAA / MPAA. Unfortunately, the closest thing I've heard of can't be taken seriously, if only because it's called GeekPAC. It sounds like some kind of a joke, and if you present yourself as a joke, you shouldn't be surprised if you're not taken seriously. So, I would like to say to the GeekPAC people, change your name, and get serious. Either that, or someone needs to start a serious, technology friendly, thouroughly disgusting lobbying organization.

actually I think a "GeekPAC" would be a good idea

Guess what? There is a GeekPac! Check it out.

My question is, why haven't we done this already? Why don't we have a political action group?

Check out GeekPac.

For those who just tuned in, here is the proposal for the creation of GeekPAC and the AMERICAN OPEN TECHNOLOGY CONSORTIUM (capitals not mine)

rmstar

P.D: why's there an l missing in the extension of that web document?? Huh??? :-)

You say you want a revolution
Well you know
We all want to change the world
...
You ask me for a contribution
Well you know
We're doing what we can

One of the things I've learned in my anticensorware work is that talk is cheap, but lawyers are expensive.

Take a look at The American Open Technology Consortium and GeekPAC

They've posted $600 in pledges so far. This does not look like a hot party.

Sig: What Happened To The Censorware Project (censorware.org)

Consortium

Visit the GeekPac homepage on the Linux Show. Right now it appears they can only accept pledges, as they are not yet legally setup to solict funds. They have both memberships and donations.

From the website:
GeekPAC is the second proposed entity and is intended as a funding channel to directly affect the outcome of elections and legislation. The actions of GeekPAC will include (but not be limited to) the purchase of political advertising that may impact the outcome of elections or legislation and direct lobbying to congress, including the hiring of lobbyists to represent members. Further actions may include contributing directly to political campaigns of people seeking local, state or national office. GeekPAC will be a registered Political Action Committee (PAC). Under McCann-Feingold, GeekPAC will not be able to accept donations from businesses or foreign nationals. Contributions will not be tax-deductible.

Read the manifesto here..

Vote with your /.ing for starters...

This is the time when we need GeekPAC to start lobbying Congress. They've been deciding whether or not to accept money from corporations for awhile now. When will they start actually doing work?

Of course the IEEE doesnt want to take responsibility for any violations of any law on the part of the author. It shouldnt have to either

But here's the rub: who besides the IEEE is in a position to fight this law, both because of their clout and their position as a "concerned party" WRT to this legislation which buys them a level of instant credibility that many other groups would have a hard time matching?

Face it, right now the IEEE and ACM are the closest things we have to a "geek lobby" (so far; I'm holding my breath to see what kind of influence we can exert through digitalconsumer.org and AOTC/GeekPAC); ACM has done the right thing and taken an official position against the DMCA and the IEEE should follow suit. It would suck for the IEEE to get sued because of the DMCA, but such an occurence would hopefully serve to bring the issue to the fore as much as the Felten case promised to, and one would hope that its membership would step up to make sure that it wasn't financially ruined as a result. I honestly don't think that the IEEE being wiped out as one poster predicted is a realistic outcome at all.

• Every piece of information about you has to be accessable without linking it to any other piece of information about you (i.e. no Unique ID) - more on the technical aspects of this later.
  
• Every site/organization which wants access to your information must agree not to use it in conjunction with other public information to compile a profile of you.
  
• You must be able to revoke any and all information at any point.
  

From the site:
Individual Members: $25.00 minimum donation
Individual members will receive a certificate of membership (electronic) and a monthly newsletter.
Group Membership: $50.00 minimum donation
Individual members will receive a certificate of membership (electronic) and a monthly newsletter.
Corporate Membership: $500.00 minimum donation
Corporate members will receive a framed and signed certificate of membership, the monthly newsletter, and the right to name a member of our "Advisory Board."
Sustaining Member: $2,000.00 minimum donation
Sustaining members will receive a certificate of membership (marble plaque), the monthly newsletter, the right to name a member of our "Advisory Board," and the right to put into nomination a member of the voting Board of Directors.

It's supposed to deal with the congres, so they made it work the same way, the more you pay, the more you can say...

http://www.thelinuxshow.com/otc.htm Join the open technology movement, the plan is for you to raise money via rallys and fundraising or however you can get people to donate, and then you donate that money to Open Technology Movement This will allow us to hire a lobbyist, and allow us to have even bigger fund raises, like marching in front of washington. The only way to stop this is by actions, forget petitions. raise some funds and donate a few thousand dollars, if we all do this at our college campus's we'll be able to generate a few hundred thousand bucks

OPEN TECHNOLOGY MOVEMENT

Please support it

The only way to fight back, is to get serious and forget these damn petitions.

I find it ironic that on a site dominated by Linux enthusiasts, people constantly post in favor of industry regulation; justifying it by claiming Microsoft as an example of a market failure!

What are you talking about? The industry exists as it does today BECAUSE OF regulation. The industry is governed by laws. These laws attempt to keep it running properly in a manner that benefits everyone. When something goes out of whack, there are laws designed to facilitate repairs. The anti-trust laws exist for this very purpose.

I think this article illustrates some of the problems quite well:

http://www.thelinuxshow.com/003_view.sht ml

The best way to handle Microsoft is to write better code. The rest will fall into place.

Nice thought, but I think you're deluded if you believe it. Money buys politicians. Politicians make the law. Monopolists naturally make huge amounts of money. Get the picture? You can't win when the other side is making the rules to benefit themselves. With reverse engineering outlawed, screwy patent and copyright laws, control of key patents and/or software protocols, monopoly power that enables coercion of other industry leaders and organizations, misinformation spread to placate the ignorant people, huge amounts of cash to line the pockets of decision makers, and many other things, monopolists have it made. The only thing we have to stop a monpolist with are anti-trust laws. I would definitely like to see them put to use before things get worse or we end up with an administration that doesn't believe in anti-trust enforcement.

Oh, btw, I wouldn't vote for Bush or Gore either. They're both more concerned about their own interests than those of the rest of the country. I doubt Gore will win anyway, but I feel especially ill when I think about Bush getting into office. *shudder*

Found this while checking out Linux Today:

TLS: Arne W. Flones - Findings of Fact, A Two-Themed Opus

I found that this article focused on the areas of the findings where, if you believe the e-mail which was brought into evidence, Microsoft damned themselves.