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There's more to the story with a police arrest record which isn't mentioned in the news stories:

FEBRUARY 9–An Oklahoma man who has gained national exposure for his “video vigilante” campaign to expose street prostitution in his hometown was arrested yesterday for allegedly paying hookers to ensure that they serviced customers in an area where he could easily film the illicit trysts.

According to the below Oklahoma City Police Department report, Brian Bates, 34, orchestrated the public encounters so he could peddle the resulting videotape to media outlets (some of Bates’s surveillance tapes are offered for sale on his web site).

In his dealings with prostitutes, Bates was choosy, investigators contend.

For example, if a john was a “regular,” Bates asked prostitutes to give “specific signals” so he would know not to bother rolling tape. Investigators also noted that, like any good auteur, Bates “gave direction to the prostitutes on how to complete the act with a high probability of success,” as well as tips on how to spot an undercover cop.

Bates was hit with a felony pandering charge and a misdemeanor count of aiding in prostitution. The pandering rap, which is usually reserved for pimps, carries a minimum two-year jail term, and a maximum of 20 years in the stir.

The more you know about the true story behind a reported news story, the more you learn the "news" is typically at best clueless and at worst 100% in the wrong direction.

This wasn't done in view of the public. The man is a self-rightous prostitute-hunter - and he had to resort to a drone in this case in order to get close enough without being noticed.

Someone else kindly provided a link to the video. (Skip to 4:30 or so to see the couple in question). From the looks of it, while the couple may have been on private property it wasn't their property. For all intents and purposes, they were indeed in full view of the public.

While a pile of old tires can provide some level of rudimentary seclusion, as well as that certain je ne sais quoi, they should have conducted their commercial transactions elsewhere.

Looks like he was kind of selective about who he harassed.

More here...

The things that the FBI have done over the years just boggle the mind.

Have you read the letters they sent to suspected mafia leaders posing a activists...and vice versa?
FBI has the docs here
https://vault.fbi.gov/cointel-...

Funny how all the good bits are buried and really bad copy....very hard to read. Not like the crisp version of the same you can find elsewhere (didn't find a text copy): http://www.thesmokinggun.com/f...

"Dear Hoodlum Leader:
Ever since I read in our paper the Worker..."

Words just fail me. Its so far beyond the pale.

Indeed, a much broader net than you seem to think. For this to be at all effective you would need to cut off not only "unfriendly" parts of the world, but also anyone who doesn't go along with your plan and cut themselves off from places you consider "unfriendly".

I think Trump's plan, and am almost certain that Cruz's plan is to ignite World War 3. Because as you note, "cutting off" whatever nations we decide need to be cut off is not throwing a swich in the majick Internet input house at the entrance to each country, we would have to completely destroy each country's cummunication infrastructure.

Oh, and satellites https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

Trump wouldn't care as long as his ass was safe http://www.thesmokinggun.com/d...

But from what I know about far right evangelical conservatives, Cruz would be getting exactly what he wants. As a dominionist, End times are an essential part of their religion

http://www.alternet.org/speake...

And they consider Ted to be a "King" who will go to war to bring the money of those they consider wicked, and give it to.............

themselves!!! Gawd, you just can't make this stuff up. Here's a fun video to watch.

http://www.talk2action.org/sto...

yeah this Reprobate will never get a tech job anywhere!

After some quick digging, this appears to be the law broken:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/us...

Basically, she was required by law to archive her communications on federal servers. She did not.

Also of note, according to TSG she forwarded classified intelligence Emails to Sidney Blumenthal, who was not a federal employee.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/d...

Teach them to respect the law, just like Bill Gates

hmm... "Details of which have been lost over time"... hmm...

If you 'search the net' for events relating to drones ... take away the EquuSearch related results, you'll find that pretty much EVERY ONE OF THEM is some fucking moron doing something that either DID hurt someone, was dangers as shit, came very close to hurting someone, or certainly had the potential to hurt someone.

I've been paying attention to the almost daily news stories about "drones," and I have not observed what you claim. The vast majority are people spooked by multirotors hovering around.

A commercial drone at a wedding
A creepy guy flying a multirotor around a medical faciltiy
NYPD getting excited about another multirotor
FAA warns a multirotor pilot to stay at low altitude
"Drone" crashes in someones yard
"Drone" videos Pirates baseball game
Drug smuggling with a multirotor
"Drone" reported outside someone's apartment
"Drone" used to spy on French football team
Woman Attacking Teen with "drone"

Some of those were dangerous to aircraft, but most didn't involve manned aircraft, and no one was hurt or killed. There have been plenty of close calls with model planes, but there haven't been many actual collisions and I'm not finding any deaths due to collisions with manned aircraft.

In all likelihood there won't be either. Most of these "drones" are small and light. When they collide with manned aircraft they disintegrate and perhaps scratch some paint. Here is what happens when a aerobatic aircraft slams into a typical model plane. Balsa and foam don't rate against aircraft aluminum. Is a death possible? Of course. Obviously. However, I think the interval between such events will be many years and the fault will not be attributed to the drones in every case, either.

I'm with you in that the stupid among us are creating the need for regulation. Adding to the hysteria of it all with claims of imminent "danger" is not useful.

Or that it wasn't really important enough to prosecute.

Khmm... What happened to the "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere" maxim?

After all, Zimmerman was acquitted, so whether evidence against him may have been faked didn't change the verdict.

Interesting logic... So, lying under oath is Ok sometimes?

Did she claim under oath that she had written it?

Yes. And it was not the first time she lied (under oath). But this time it was worse, because somebody else wrote that letter — and handed to her to pretend, it was hers. In other words, it was not a mere perjury, but a conspiracy to commit perjury (and malicious prosecution) — and no one was even investigated, much less prosecuted for it.

Are you sure beyond a reasonable doubt that she would necessarily have been able to read her own handwriting?

I am sure — but am not a juror at her trial, if only because no prosecutor had the guts to charge her.

But she has already admitted — under oath — that she has not, in fact, written it. So we don't need to prove, she lied...

Yeah, you can still find things on line. Bill Gates's mug shot for a traffic violation sufficiently serious to get him hauled into custody. (Which is rare in the US, so I'm guessing DWI).

Somehow it didn't seem to harm him much.

These situations are trifling details, which do not justify the re-write of history, and do not justify the forced de-cataloging of public information. Everybody in the US knows somebody who lost their house in the recent downturn. If anything those people are more likely to be given a break than denied employment.

The penalty for the excesses of youth is really not significant. Caught with weed and booze while joy riding in someone else's car at 16? You dog, you! Can you start next Monday, we really need another mechanic as soon as possible.

The arguments are bogus. You live with what you've done.
Allowing people to erase their past is exceedingly dangerous. What deterrent remains against repeat offenders if simply paying a fine, and then forcibly erasing all evidence gets you a clean bill? People have a right to evaluate who they are hiring as a camp counselor for the Girl Guides summer camp, or who they rent an apartment to.

And for those of you who are really interested, you can read where it is mentioned in the the actual backstage rider here.

The bit about the M&Ms is on page 9.

Actually, a rather fun site. Apparently Dick Cheney's contract required that his hotel room have the TV set to Fox News. And Iggy Pop's contract is pure rock'n'roll.

Anyway, the point of it all is that it is important to read the whole contract and then follow up with the agreed upon conditions. It's as true for venues signing Van Halen as it is for businesses running 57.5 foot wide boring machines.

And for those of you who are really interested, you can read where it is mentioned in the the actual backstage rider here.

The bit about the M&Ms is on page 9.

Actually, a rather fun site. Apparently Dick Cheney's contract required that his hotel room have the TV set to Fox News. And Iggy Pop's contract is pure rock'n'roll.

Anyway, the point of it all is that it is important to read the whole contract and then follow up with the agreed upon conditions. It's as true for venues signing Van Halen as it is for businesses running 57.5 foot wide boring machines.

And for those of you who are really interested, you can read where it is mentioned in the the actual backstage rider here.

The bit about the M&Ms is on page 9.

Actually, a rather fun site. Apparently Dick Cheney's contract required that his hotel room have the TV set to Fox News. And Iggy Pop's contract is pure rock'n'roll.

Anyway, the point of it all is that it is important to read the whole contract and then follow up with the agreed upon conditions. It's as true for venues signing Van Halen as it is for businesses running 57.5 foot wide boring machines.

And if anyone doesn't get the reference (or even more so if you think you do, but don't get what the archetypal ludicrously demanding rock band rider has to do with tunnel boring), read the linked article.

Iggy Pop has taken that to a whole new level.

Tell that to Pete Townsend: http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/crime/pete-townshends-child-porn-treatise

Bill Gates is a particularly cynical recidivist scofflaw and Microsoft's DNA has that embedded in it.

That is, as long as those students don't object to being watched constantly by a camera.

I don't meant to sound like a card-carrying member of the Fringe Lunatic Association, but after the multiple recent revelations that the LEO's ride around photographing cars and license plates, USPS photographs all mail, the NSA collects metadata on all phone calls, the FBI and NSA together mine data from social networks—in short, that the US government in fact does all those things that the fringe lunatics warned about for years—it's hard to trust a university, whether state-run or private, with a camera to watch me at my computer in much the same way that it's impossible to trust Microsoft to watch me with an always-on X-Box One camera/mic setup.* I feel that recent events have given students very good reason to question whether the benefits of automatic frustration-recognition software are worth the risk that some sort of data might make its way from the camera to an FBI/NSA/Fusion database, despite the sturdiest ringfences and firewalls of promises, hope, and trust. Really, if the MOOC designers are really concerned about frustration, why not just include an "I'm frustrated! Give me a hint!" button on the user interface? Why monitor faces through a camera, and why propose the idea at the same time that MS's creepy XBox camera idea went down in flames?

To expect anything less than the worse from the NSA/CIA/FBI/DEA... etc is just a little naive.

I think your concept of "anything less than the worse" is poorly calibrated.

Taliban Hangs Afghan Boy, 7, for Spying
17 Beheaded in Taliban-Controlled Afghanistan for Attending Wedding Party with Dancing
Torture, Al-Qaeda Style

and how do you know if a warrant has been issued and executed? You have basically don't have a right to protest a warrant because you don't know it even existed.

And all mail are scanned and the image is taken and stored into a database (presumably the NSA):

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/woman-arrested-for-obama-bloomberg-ricin-letters-687435

Yes. It was recently released that the USPS saves photographs of every piece of mail, which is the snail mail equivalent of collecting metadata of every phone call.

GIYF.
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/fbi/fbi-informant-infiltrated-occupy-movement-758348
http://www.verumserum.com/?p=33490

I'm sure team democrat still supports them, maybe.

You mean that totally made-up thing where an FBI plant

If you mean they were actually planning it, and one of them turned informant well then yes. Perhaps you should be getting your information from someplace else instead of infowars.

these ones?

Ah, ok. I can't really complain anyhow. I was wrong.

I just checked the police report and it's sufficiently detailed that I see that the woman in question didn't delete her pictures before bringing them in.

The US government was suppressing free speech in this case. If you don't think so ask your self this question: Would he be in jail if he hadn't made that movie? We know the answer to that is no.

No, but the attention around him brought his parole officer's attention back to him and the fact that he was both using an alias and the internet (against the explicit terms of his parole) is the actual violation.

Are you seriously suggesting they fabricated a parole violation in order to arrest him?

Or, maybe, just maybe, he is being arrested because he's actually in violation of his parole conditions? From this

Included in his probation terms were prohibitions on his use of the Internet, unless he secured prior approval from his probation officer. Additionally, he was not to âoeuse, for any purpose or in any manner, any name other than his/her true legal name or names without the prior written approval of the Probation Officer.â

So, it sounds like he has breached both of those conditions since he apparently told the press about both of those things.

Does it need to be a conspiracy by the government to suppress his free speech? Or is he maybe actually an idiot with prior history with the law who did something stupid?

I figure the only you can prove yourself right, mister AC, is to make your own film, and see if they make up charges against you. Otherwise you're mostly talking out of your ass.

I heard it was a miniature donkey...
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/miniature-donkey-sex-bust-576142

SEPTEMBER 18--A Florida farmhand arrested for having sexual contact with a miniature donkey explained to cops that the Sunshine State was “backwards” since its residents “frown on zoophilia,” according to a police report. ...

If you go online and threaten the president it wont take long for your free speech to put you in a cell. So how some right wing nutjobs can be allowed to kill an ambassador and hundreds of thick rioting foriegners I dont understand at all

You don't understand this because you're seeing insults and threats as being one and the same thing. They are not, and that's why you're confused. The film is pretty shitty, but no excuse for the violent responses its seen. Any government censoring in order to protect hypersensitive and violent people from taking offence is going to be very busy indeed.

If you read anything about how actual assassination attempts take place it usually never is a situation where some guy makes a video threatening the President. What happens is some cult makes a video quoting scriptures that only the cult can make sense of and something in the message acts as a subliminal artifact to sleeper agents who act on it.

The CIA knows how to do this. Intelligence agencies know how to do this. The film maker according to reports I've read on Wired and the SmokingGun is a former FBI informant. So he actually would have the sort of background and training to pull that off and you cannot rule out that he could be an actual terrorist or part of a terrorist cell. The entire situation is as fishy as Sirhan Sirhan.

Could he be a double agent? I find it very difficult to believe this entire chain of events wasn't planned. It looks planned in such a way so as to seem spontaneous when if you look closely at it you realize it's not.

Nah. It wasn't a wrong turn at Albuquerque in 2012 that started this debacle, but rather a traffic violation in 1977!

If the person really were planning a crime would you be expecting them to confess to some cop at their door that they really do plan to kill someone and that they are 100% serious about it? I know a lot of people are very stupid, but that's a suicidal level of stupidity.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/woman-complains-about-crack-dealer-765412

Er... no. Yes money will attract a lot of women, but plenty of poor men get by just fine. I give you one example of a poor man who is able to find multiple sexual partners: http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/crime/tennessee-baby-machine-is-state-inmate-758094

For more real-life examples, head over to an impoverished section of your nearest city. Note all the poor people, and all the children.

Watching your roommate make out with someone would cause then to murder you?

Law enforcement calls events like that 'domestic violence.' It happens every day.

What planet do you live on?!

Find a cop and ask him what planet we're living on. People get beat, stabbed, shot or run over with pickups over sexual matters, including spying, on a daily basis. Had Tyler gutted Ravi in the parking lot it might have made local news, but it would not have surprised a cop, and you would know nothing of it.

unforseen

Unforseen to Ravi, perhaps. As I've said, you ask a cop about this kind of thing and they'll tell you, without hesitation, people are liable to do absolutely anything when sex is involved.

Forgive the lecture, but it's an important life lesson most people eventually pick up on. Some people have to learn it the hard way. Sex is really important. Who you mess around with, or refuse to, how, where, and who else might care can get you killed. Husbands are, without a doubt, the most dangerous.

Maybe it's strange think in these primitive terms, but that is the planet you're on.

Ravi should not be punished for that.

Had Tyler snuffed himself after Ravi exposed him cheating on his girlfriend with another woman there would be absolutely no attention paid beyond local courts. This is a cultural matter and Ravi has made the mistake of pissing off the wrong element.

someone's slashdot comment and then they kill themselves

Apparently.

The feds do exactly that: They operate sex sites for years, while gathering information for prosecution.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/fbi-undercover-child-porn-site-876521
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/internet/undercover-web-site-derailed-hosting-firm

There are plenty more examples and hundreds of people in jail as a result.

Do you know who operates the site where you get your porn?

The feds do exactly that: They operate sex sites for years, while gathering information for prosecution.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/fbi-undercover-child-porn-site-876521
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/internet/undercover-web-site-derailed-hosting-firm

There are plenty more examples and hundreds of people in jail as a result.

Do you know who operates the site where you get your porn?

"is really just a Photoshopped image the company planted on his computer." .... yeah, the courts will buy that one. Didn't work for this guy.

Actually, you are almost right. Our system of government where most of the power has been transferred to a central authority away from the states is what does not scale.

Originally the system was designed with Federalism that distributed power. That is almost entirely gone now with nearly all power residing in D.C.

As an avid centrist (and frankly, an Obama supporter) - I couldn't agree with you more here (weird right?).

Repeal the 17th Amendment (let states decide for themselves if they want to elect Senators by popular vote in their states, many will do so on their own and some will not)

What is the problem with the 17th Amendment exactly? I feel like the Senate is a lot less dysfunctional than the House. I attribute this to 6 year terms, so they aren't as worried about short term political gains. Maybe you have some good examples for me? I grant the fact that the states 'lose rights' here to a federal mandate, but isn't a popular vote the epitome of a republic? Lets not forget the Blago scandal.

Get rid of the Federal Reserve system. Competitive banking instead of a monopoly cartel where the same commercial banks who in many circumstances have their CEO's running Federal Reserve regional banks that control the money.

There is obviously something that needs to be adjusted in the federal reserve. If for nothing else, than to allow for more transparency so we can have confidence that they are doing the right things for our country. But really.... I do NOT want the stability of our economy in the hands of elected representatives.... nor do I want a bunch of people (with no understanding about any of the prevailing financial theories) calling up their representatives to tell them they should raise/lower interest rates because some talk show host made them feel like an expert.

I'm not insane for wanting what Jefferson and Madison wanted and designed instead of what Alexander Hamilton and John Adams thought would be cool (American Empire)

I believe from time to time, the responsibilities of the federal government will need to be shifted in order to benefit our nation as a whole. Even the most right wing among us, believe we should all have clean food and water, and a national effort to prevent the spread of diseases when they outbreak. We can either have 50 different organizations, each tasked with doing these tasks... and hope they work together... or we could have some sort of central command to make things run more efficiently.

Question to you: For each of the situations you believe the government is overstepping... Is your stance based on what you believe will run the most efficiently, and be the most effective (bang for your buck), or is it based on a belief that just because it worked in the past, it is the best and only solution to every problem?

Yup. Pretty pathetic. Now that it is all coming out, someone is leaking emails, and things are looking very, very bad for the people behind this.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/bizarre/dan-wolfe-anthony-weiner-weinergate-632095

We'll see. I'm looking forward to finding out more. Anonymous is on the case now, did you know? Shit is leaking out all over...

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/bizarre/dan-wolfe-anthony-weiner-weinergate-632095

I'm rather disappointed that it got this far.

People are more upset that Bristol got this far.

Chad Ochocinco

Sunshine Megatron

What? No Kennedy's are available for this?!

You don't want the DNA of people who go to sex parties with their sister.

Your wife is an annoying twat.

True, but she has a twat, so she makes the rules.

Not true. The indictment indicates that five DVDs were mailed to Florida and five movies were downloaded.

I cannot say whether the charges would have been upheld if it were downloading alone. The court certainly did not dismiss those counts, he was convicted on all ten.

a) She didn't have to be Mirandized. She wasn't arrested at that point.
b) Doesn't matter. She wasn't in a court of law.
c) Doesn't matter. It's against the law to obstruct justice and lie to the FBI.

Read item 23 and item 26-27

a) She didn't have to be Mirandized. She wasn't arrested at that point.
b) Doesn't matter. She wasn't in a court of law.
c) Doesn't matter. It's against the law to obstruct justice and lie to the FBI.

Read item 23 and item 26-27

You know, I just can't look at Canonical/Ubuntu the same way any more. It's like Slipknot after the Coq Roq lawsuit...

You mean, they are fools to rely on the security infrastructure that the Bush Administration set up over seven years? Or do you mean, there's no director at TSA because Republicans in Congress have been blocking nomination confirmation hearings?

Competence is a non-partisan issue, so stop trying to force the "fair and balanced" point of view that everything wrong in government began the moment Obama took the oath of office.

After all, it was Bush who ignored the Osama Bin Laden poised to strike in US memo from the CIA a month before the September 11, 2001 attacks. Talk about unqualified...

Consented and enjoyed the act? What fucking planet are you living on? He drugged her and she told him no, but was unable to stop him.

The girl testified that she left the Jacuzzi and entered a bedroom in Nicholson's home, where Polanski sat down beside her and kissed the teen, despite her demands that he "keep away." According to Gailey, Polanski then performed a sex act on her and later "started to have intercourse with me." At one point, according to Gailey's testimony, Polanski asked the 13-year-old if she was "on the pill," and "When did you last have your period?" Polanski then asked her, Gailey recalled, "Would you want me to go in through your back?" before he "put his penis in my butt." Asked why she did not more forcefully resist Polanski, the teenager told Deputy D.A. Roger Gunson, "Because I was afraid of him."

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/polanskicover1.html

Jesus, way to lie to make yourself feel better about sick acts done by adult men on 13 year old girls.

See: http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2009/0303091mcnugget1.html

She ordered nuggets, paid for them, and they say they're out, refuse to refund her and they offer her a mcdouble with small fries.

They were stealing from her or trying to defraud her. When that happens, calling the cops is a valid response.

It may not be a 911 case, but it's not like they tell everyone who to call in that situation.

Where she went wrong was calling 911 three times when they already told her an officer is on the way.

But wow, that's a really crappy McD. When was the last time you went to place where they were out of something and they still insisted on keeping your money and offered you something else instead. I'm not surprised she got so pissed off.

And: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20090304/odd-mcnuggets-911/

> A McDonald's spokesman says Goodman should have been given a refund, and she's being sent a gift card for a free meal.

Wow if I tried to cheat someone and failed, I can get away just by offering a gift card for a free meal? Oh only corporations can do that?

Ah I see.