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http://www.turbolinux.com/cgi-bin/newsrelease/index.cgi?date2=20061129114419&mode=syosai

It seems they do

Looks like they went underground in 2002 (offering no free ISO download). Now they've resurfaced.
The Turbolinux 10 Desktop now costs 29$

Umm... There is, if you look hard enough.

It looks decent enough: http://www.turbolinux.com/products/wizpy/

There are no free legal DVD players ON ANY OS.

Funny. I bought an iBook and it came with a program called "DVD Player.app" which plays DVD's. I didn't have to pay extra. I didn't have to go buy it, it was just there. When I reinstall OSX from the restore DVD, the "DVD Player.app" comes with it.

On Linux there is a legal dvd player, but it is only sold through TurboLinux as part of their distribution (made by CyberLink, the people that brought you PowerDVD).

http://www.turbolinux.com/company/news/2004/040722 .html

if you can come up with a reasonable alternative explanation for why SpecOpsLabs is offering this bizarre contest with such an absurd deadline, I'd love to hear it.
I just posted the link to this press release in a sibling post.
I think that both are related.

TOKYO, Japan - September 21, 2005 - Turbolinux, a global provider of Linux solutions, today announced that Turbolinux has signed an exclusive distribution agreement with SpecOps Labs, Inc., headquartered in the Philippines, to distribute DAVIDTM software, a middleware that enables desktop machines operating on the Linux OS to run WindowsTM applications.

Turbolinux Signs Exclusive Agreement with SpecOps
Labs to Distribute DAVID Software - Software
Allows Windows Applications to Run on Linux OS

TOKYO, Japan - September 21, 2005 - Turbolinux, a
global provider of Linux solutions, today
announced that Turbolinux has signed an exclusive
distribution agreement with SpecOps Labs, Inc.,
headquartered in the Philippines, to distribute
DAVIDTM software, a middleware that enables
desktop machines operating on the Linux OS to run
WindowsTM applications.

And let's see... Can I play a DVD on Linux legally yet?

Yes, you can.

the phillips-sony-etc conglomerate that created the dvd standard refused to license the decoder to any OS besides Windoze and MacOS

People can watch DVDs on linux only by using (illegally) reverse engineered software

Next time try Google or Wikipedia to get your facts correct.

It would be ironic if it were true.

TurboLinux 10 (and above?) bundle a linux version of Cyberlink's PowerDVD. See here:

http://www.turbolinux.com/news/040722.html

There is also a linux version of WinDVD (LinDVD) but as far as I know it is not available to consumers.

No, Turbolinux is not a new distro. Its been around for a few years. I purchased a copy from LSL at least three years ago.

If you would have done some simple Google searches (searching for "turbolinux" for example) you would have found this page that explains the company was founded in 1992.

10F... Fun, Fast, Future, Freedom, Flexible. Please find your "F". (from the official site)

Well.. I found one, but... I don't really think it's appropriate to say it here.

There is. PowerDVD now makes a standalone player meant for the consumer. Note to other readers, this is not the same as the PowerdVD software for embedded systems. Turbolinux comes w/ it

According to this FAQ, Xine can *already* play Windows media and other formats. Here is the quote.

"Can I watch Windows Media (.asf/.wmv/.wma) files using xine?

While the container format (system layer) ASF (wmv is just an alias) is fully supported in xine, for newer windows media 9 based streams you'll need to install windows binary codecs (.DLLs). Possibly the most convenient way to get the windows DLLs is to download them from the mplayer website http://www1.mplayerhq.hu/MPlayer/releases/codecs/ . The package is called "Win32 Codecpack". Unpack it and move everything you find inside to /usr/lib/win32 (actually you can place them anywhere you want, e.g. someplace in your homedirectory, but then you'll have to set codec.win32_path in your xine config file accordingly). Restart xine then and you should be able to watch windows media streams. "

Then, according to this press release, the Turbo Media Player (which hasn't even been released yet) is actually dependent of Xine. Here is the quote.

"...Turbolinux engineers developed new software called Turbo Media Player that works with xine, a widely-used Linux media engine, to make it possible for customers to watch streaming video in Windows Media format."

What am I missing here? I expected my previous post to be modded up, not down.

I don't plan on supporting SCO in any way until the litigation is over.

You mean to say that you would EVER support SCO again?

I wouldn't support SCO in any way, shape, or form, for any reason. Ever. And yes, I am in a position where I can make that stick at work as well as at home.

That said... Turbo Linux was part of the UnitedLinux group. UnitedLinux was disbanded as SCO refused to leave the group. It seems there was no way to force theme to leave, so everyone else left instead.

(The web site is still there, but there have been no updates since early 2003... Can't imagine why that might be.......)

Surely there's a way you can express your displeasure with MS products to your friends with a little more tact?

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It's been a while since Turbolinux 10 Desktop (kernel 2.6) came out...
It's got several positive reviews (search Google..)
http://www.turbolinux.com/products/tl10d/
C ya.

Here are the instructions for the most common distros.

Generic
rm -rf /opt/gnome
Debian.
apt-get remove gnome
Mandrake
Menu > Configuration > Packaging > Remove software then search for gnome and tick all instances off
Red hat
Just uninstall red hat altogether, it is closely interwined with Gnome that is better getting a gnome hostile distribution.
Sun Java Desktop.
Get SuSE 8.2, its the same thing but without gnome installed

Gnome free distributions. These distributions dont contain gnome.

Arklinux
Xandros
Lindows
Lycoris
TurboLinux
Knoppix the K in it stands for KDE!

That's the world that many Asian IT companies and deparments live in.

Just think about that for a minute, and imagine how it would turn your world upside down: People are cheap - servers are expensive.

In this environment, stuff like Linux makes even more sense than it does in "the west".

People like TurboLinux and Red Flag Linux are all over this opportunity here in China and elsewhere in the region.

Support for the Turbo button is already available. Look here. oh wait, that's YALD (Yet Another Linux Distribution). Now all we need is RS232Linux, or HardDriveLinux, or CopperWireLinux, or RubberDollLinux...

I helped a admin friend (pure Novell guy that was somehow tasked with this job) implement TurboLinux on a IBM Z series mainframe. It is kind of easy to work, but you lose some performance, and updates and fixes can be hard to track down sometimes. Clustered Linux solutions could end being cheaper at first, but their TCO may rise higher as time goes on (especially if your company/institution lacks a very competent Linux cluster admin/programmer).

Mandrake is a product of MandrakeSoft.

UnitedLinux is the parent company of SUSE, the European arm which produces SUSE Linux. There is also the Asian arm, TurboLinux, and the South American/Latin arm, Conectiva. Yep, all these major distributions fall under the same parent company. So you're pretty accurate in asserting that there's only a few big players as far as corporations go.

Hercules is the answer to getting quality time in a Big Iron environment:

http://www.conmicro.cx/hercules/

Almost worthy of its own discussion ! votes ?

Hercules is an open source software implementation of the mainframe System/370 and ESA/390 architectures, in addition to the new 64-bit z/Architecture. Hercules runs under Linux, Windows 98, Windows NT, and Windows 2000.

You may also wish to download the original open source mainframe operating system, IBM OS360 ...

There also are a number of versions of Linux you can run on theIBM Z series Mainframes or the Hercules Emulator

Nothing like getting hot with some Big Iron running in your Pentium in the Study :^)

Anyway, the Japanese should check with IBM Japan on this. After all, the biggest commercial supporter of Linux is IBM, and IBM definitely has the resources to do Linux installations from department servers all the way up to supercomputers.

i started using linux a little over two years ago. i went to linuxworld 2000 in nyc and came home with free copies of several distrobution's cds. i went cold turkey off of windows and into redhat. after about a month, i realized that i wasn't really learning much from redhat.
that night i decided i was going to find a distro that i liked. i installed everything (suse, turbolinux, debian, conectiva). finally, i installed slackware an was amazed at its simplicity. it was remarkably voodoo-free. there were no crazy scripts to confuse me, everything made sense.
now i use debian. i forget when or why i made the switch. i still love slack, but i'm hooked on debian's package management and software availability. slackware is the best distro to *learn* linux on. it forces you to do things yourself, and that's important. it's not quite as hardcore as linux from scratch, and i've heard crux and gentoo are similar, but slack will always hold a special place in my heart.

Thanks Pat.

Yeah, no one important installs GNOME as the default. And there are not really any desktop agnostic distros. Red Hat is basically the only thing keeping GNOME alive.

Erik

Who said about Microsoft: "It's an amazing machine. I admire these people, who were far sighted enough and bold enough to do what they have done," "Microsoft is not afraid of change. It will cannibalise a weak product to launch a stronger product."

Who said about Windows 2000:"The general trend for client operating environments continues to be consolidation around 32-bit operating systems and applications," "Unfortunately for competitors of Microsoft, this consolidation also means a general movement to Windows platforms."

You mean that Dan Kusnetsky? The "world's most prominent Linux analyst"? Well, that's good enough for me.

Press Release from Turbolinux Japan (in Japanese)

Another article from NikkeiBP (in Japanese)

The main points are:

• Turbolinux Inc. sold Turbolinux Japan K.K. (its Japanese subsidary) to SRA. (This is the $1 mil. transaction according to Slashdot Japan (in Japanese))
• Turbolinux Japan K.K. will become the new Turbolinux Inc.
• Turbolinux Inc. also sold all its Linux distribution business, logo, trademarks to SRA, but the price is not yet disclosed.
• SRA is also planning to buy the Chinese and Korean joint ventures between Turbolinux Inc. and local companies.
• The old Turbolinux Inc. will change its name to CenterRex and focus on software it developed like PowerCockpit or EnFusion.

I'll admit, I gave up after 10 results, because it was clear that your idea of "strong" in the Asian market as supposedly backed up by your google link, differs from mine.

From A Link on Turbo's Site: "Backed by some of the world's leading technology companies, including Compaq, Dell, Fujitsu, Hitachi, IBM, Intel, NEC, Novell, Oracle, SGI and Toshiba, Turbolinux is headquartered near San Francisco with offices around the world."

Try doing a google on TurboLinux and any of the companies named by them as strategic partners in the enterprise (I suggest looking at articles that are current). Read the results that you find that are not created by Turbo's marketing dept., and see if you still think that Turbo is alive and well.

Then try visiting some of the supposed strategic partner web sites and see what they have to say about Linux in the enterprise, and who they are actively partnering with.

If one goes to the TurboLinux website and clicks through to news and events, there is a new entry there for today, 7/19/02. In that entry it talks about a new agreement to provide Linux for IBM mainframes. If they were going under immediately, why would they enter into this agreement?

If one goes to the TurboLinux website and clicks through to news and events, there is a new entry there for today, 7/19/02. In that entry it talks about a new agreement to provide Linux for IBM mainframes. If they were going under immediately, why would they enter into this agreement?

the TurboLinux website is functioning

This is a link to the TurboLinux Web site.

Everyone please go and check to make sure it is still functioning.

I have come up a few other players in this arena, competition is good. of course ;-)

• Thizlinux
• Chinese 2000, based on Chinese Language Extension, packaged with Hancom Office Suite
• Chinee Language Extension they patches Red Hat and Slackware! for a Chinese desktop, may be regarded as the "mother" of Chinese localization
• Turbo linux, don't know what they're doing in Chinese Linux desktop recently

btw, the one reviewed in the newsforge.com is 2.4 desktop. version 3.0 is coming (sorry, no more English and Traditional Chinese installation screens, only Simplified Chinese is available) and I've tried the beta CD, quite OK for normal use but some installation gliches.

Also... a Chinese-enabled desktop is possible (just click "Chinese" during install..) by the normal Debian/Mandrake/RedHat CDs.

If someone setup a high priced licensing & support system for Linux and gave it a different name, businesses might sign on. Sad but true.

I wrote a mol faq a while back. Much of it still applies, but I've been waiting for the networking, sound, and kernel 2.4 compat to settle down before I redo it. (The prefered network config seemed to be changing almost on a daily basis for a while.)

Several people have said that it isn't an emulator and that it's very fast but one thing that slows it down is the lack of video accel. Notice when you boot under mol that the accel extension fails to find the graphics h/w it's after -- the video appears to macos to be an accel-incapable framebuffer.

I have a related link righthere. :)

This sounds like a great project.

Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day.

Honestly, I don't understand what all the fuss is about.

Unless you're the kind who likes to pay for water, just use one of the many other Linux distributions out there that don't have such odious licensing terms. It's not like there aren't any alternatives out there.

Or, better, you can use something with no restrictions at all on how you use it.

If Caldera wants to shoot themselves in the foot, who are we to stop them?

b&

First Linux for the S390, now this. Is IBM trying to hard on behalf of the S390 ?

It's more than a couple of days old -- well over a month has past since this was made public. It was buried at the bottom of the press release from TurboLinux, dated 21 Feb 2001 and picked up by LWN in their Commerce section from the next day.

Key features of EnFuzion (these are lifted from a product marketing page so I can't comment on their veracity) include:

• No need to rewrite or modify code.
• Maximize system performance with multiple load monitoring and resource-sharing options.
• Highly secure: EnFuzion's advanced security features bolster the standard security provided by Unix and Windows NT systems.
• Easily integrate EnFuzion into your applications with EnFuzion's application programming interface (API).
• Monitor and control EnFuzion execution using a familiar language such as C, Java, Perl, Bash, Tcl/Tk, etc.
• Easily integrate EnFuzion with any shell or scripting language.

Some Additional Linux Distribution Suggestions

• Caldera Systems
• Turbo Linux
• SuSE
• Mandrake

• Sun/Open Office
• Applix/Applixware Office
• Oracle
• HP
• Compaq
• Dell
• GNU

• Osborne/McGraw-Hill
• O'Reilly
• Sybex

TurboLinux Cluster Server provides High Availability functions that boosts uptime for services such as Web serving, mail hosting, news, and FTP. TurboLinux also has a high-performance clustering product called EnFuzion.

Red Hat provides a package called High Availability Server that includes load balancing, fault tolerance, and improved scalability for IP-based applications.

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TurboLinux Cluster Server provides High Availability functions that boosts uptime for services such as Web serving, mail hosting, news, and FTP. TurboLinux also has a high-performance clustering product called EnFuzion.

Red Hat provides a package called High Availability Server that includes load balancing, fault tolerance, and improved scalability for IP-based applications.

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What is all this Beowulf crap? For highly-available systems, clustering usually means server fail-over. It means an active-standby configuration with a shared disk. If the active server dies, the standby mounts the disk, starts up the app, and carries on.

For examples of shrink-wrapped versions, see Sun Cluster, Veritas Cluster Server, and a Linux based one, Turbo Linux Cluster Server.

A lot of services have to be active-standby; only one server can be doing the job at a time. Any database falls into this category, including SQL-based, LDAP, and mail stores. This is where the above products would get used. For services that can be active-active, like web servers, DNS, mail relays, some form of load balancing is better and cheaper.

There are distributed databases on the horizon, but few of them are ready for primetime. These would feel more like a Beowulf cluster.

I'm not trying to tell you that calling Beowulf a cluster is wrong, but limiting clustering to just Beowulf is.

"For a long time, Linux was dominated by hackers and somewhat of a less organized group. The result is a slowdown in innovation and a reluctance in enterprises to accept this solution," he said. "This has to grow up."

"The EnFuzion(TM) software (the "Software") is a proprietary product of TurboLinux. * * * You may not copy (except as expressly permitted in Section 2), modify, or create derivative works of the Software."

The Advanced Traffic Manager application, turboclusterd, will be released under the TurboLinux Software License. Source code for this component will not be released and redistribution of this component is not allowed.

"For a long time, Linux was dominated by hackers and somewhat of a less organized group. The result is a slowdown in innovation and a reluctance in enterprises to accept this solution," he said. "This has to grow up."

"The EnFuzion(TM) software (the "Software") is a proprietary product of TurboLinux. * * * You may not copy (except as expressly permitted in Section 2), modify, or create derivative works of the Software."

The Advanced Traffic Manager application, turboclusterd, will be released under the TurboLinux Software License. Source code for this component will not be released and redistribution of this component is not allowed.

"For a long time, Linux was dominated by hackers and somewhat of a less organized group. The result is a slowdown in innovation and a reluctance in enterprises to accept this solution," he said. "This has to grow up."

"The EnFuzion(TM) software (the "Software") is a proprietary product of TurboLinux. * * * You may not copy (except as expressly permitted in Section 2), modify, or create derivative works of the Software."

The Advanced Traffic Manager application, turboclusterd, will be released under the TurboLinux Software License. Source code for this component will not be released and redistribution of this component is not allowed.