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Kuntu torrents too!
Hey, here are 2 Kubuntu torrents too... Kubuntu-i386 Install: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/hoary/kubuntu-
5 .04-install-i386.iso.torrent Kubuntu-Amd64 Install: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/hoary/kubuntu-5 .04-install-amd64.iso.torrent -
Kuntu torrents too!
Hey, here are 2 Kubuntu torrents too... Kubuntu-i386 Install: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/hoary/kubuntu-
5 .04-install-i386.iso.torrent Kubuntu-Amd64 Install: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/hoary/kubuntu-5 .04-install-amd64.iso.torrent -
DVD Torrent Links
There are also DVD torrent links that include all of Ubuntu main.
amd64 - http://torrent.ubuntu.com/dvd/20050407.3/hoary-dvd -amd64.iso.torrent
i386 - http://torrent.ubuntu.com/dvd/20050407.3/hoary-dvd -i386.iso.torrent -
DVD Torrent Links
There are also DVD torrent links that include all of Ubuntu main.
amd64 - http://torrent.ubuntu.com/dvd/20050407.3/hoary-dvd -amd64.iso.torrent
i386 - http://torrent.ubuntu.com/dvd/20050407.3/hoary-dvd -i386.iso.torrent -
Torrents
Here are the Torrents on the US mirror:
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amd64 torrent
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Torrents
Here are the Torrents on the US mirror:
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i386 torrent
amd64 torrent
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Torrents
Here are the Torrents on the US mirror:
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i386 torrent
amd64 torrent
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Live CD:
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Torrents
Here are the Torrents on the US mirror:
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amd64 torrent
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Torrents
Here are the Torrents on the US mirror:
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amd64 torrent
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Torrents
Here are the Torrents on the US mirror:
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Torrents man
Put a link to the torrents as well.
Its only through lawful and fair use of the technology that its not going to be attacked as a p2p mechanism. It was created for distribution of Linux isos, sue it for that.
And it saves the Ubuntu team some bandwidth
Installs:
http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/ubuntu -5.04-install-amd64.iso.torrent
http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/ubuntu -5.04-install-i386.iso.torrent
http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/ubuntu -5.04-install-powerpc.iso.torrent
Live CD:
http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/ubuntu -5.04-live-amd64.iso.torrent
http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/ubuntu -5.04-live-i386.iso.torrent
http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/ubuntu -5.04-live-powerpc.iso.torrent
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Torrents man
Put a link to the torrents as well.
Its only through lawful and fair use of the technology that its not going to be attacked as a p2p mechanism. It was created for distribution of Linux isos, sue it for that.
And it saves the Ubuntu team some bandwidth
Installs:
http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/ubuntu -5.04-install-amd64.iso.torrent
http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/ubuntu -5.04-install-i386.iso.torrent
http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/ubuntu -5.04-install-powerpc.iso.torrent
Live CD:
http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/ubuntu -5.04-live-amd64.iso.torrent
http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/ubuntu -5.04-live-i386.iso.torrent
http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/ubuntu -5.04-live-powerpc.iso.torrent
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Torrents man
Put a link to the torrents as well.
Its only through lawful and fair use of the technology that its not going to be attacked as a p2p mechanism. It was created for distribution of Linux isos, sue it for that.
And it saves the Ubuntu team some bandwidth
Installs:
http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/ubuntu -5.04-install-amd64.iso.torrent
http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/ubuntu -5.04-install-i386.iso.torrent
http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/ubuntu -5.04-install-powerpc.iso.torrent
Live CD:
http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/ubuntu -5.04-live-amd64.iso.torrent
http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/ubuntu -5.04-live-i386.iso.torrent
http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/ubuntu -5.04-live-powerpc.iso.torrent
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Torrents man
Put a link to the torrents as well.
Its only through lawful and fair use of the technology that its not going to be attacked as a p2p mechanism. It was created for distribution of Linux isos, sue it for that.
And it saves the Ubuntu team some bandwidth
Installs:
http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/ubuntu -5.04-install-amd64.iso.torrent
http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/ubuntu -5.04-install-i386.iso.torrent
http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/ubuntu -5.04-install-powerpc.iso.torrent
Live CD:
http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/ubuntu -5.04-live-amd64.iso.torrent
http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/ubuntu -5.04-live-i386.iso.torrent
http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/ubuntu -5.04-live-powerpc.iso.torrent
-Shepy -
Torrents man
Put a link to the torrents as well.
Its only through lawful and fair use of the technology that its not going to be attacked as a p2p mechanism. It was created for distribution of Linux isos, sue it for that.
And it saves the Ubuntu team some bandwidth
Installs:
http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/ubuntu -5.04-install-amd64.iso.torrent
http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/ubuntu -5.04-install-i386.iso.torrent
http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/ubuntu -5.04-install-powerpc.iso.torrent
Live CD:
http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/ubuntu -5.04-live-amd64.iso.torrent
http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/ubuntu -5.04-live-i386.iso.torrent
http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/ubuntu -5.04-live-powerpc.iso.torrent
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Torrents man
Put a link to the torrents as well.
Its only through lawful and fair use of the technology that its not going to be attacked as a p2p mechanism. It was created for distribution of Linux isos, sue it for that.
And it saves the Ubuntu team some bandwidth
Installs:
http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/ubuntu -5.04-install-amd64.iso.torrent
http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/ubuntu -5.04-install-i386.iso.torrent
http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/ubuntu -5.04-install-powerpc.iso.torrent
Live CD:
http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/ubuntu -5.04-live-amd64.iso.torrent
http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/ubuntu -5.04-live-i386.iso.torrent
http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/ubuntu -5.04-live-powerpc.iso.torrent
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Ubuntu rocks
New stuff include
- Gnome 2.10.1, which makes the desktop a lot faster than before
- X.org
- Simplified update- and package management
- Much faster boot process
- Better laptop support (ie suspending, hibernating, processor frequency scaling)
- Kickstart support for automated largescale installations
- Live CD and Install CD both use the new debian installer infrastructure
- UTF-8 by default
- A program for collecting information about what hardware works and what doesn't
- Kubuntu - complete KDE 3.4 based version of Ubuntu
Stuff people are going to bitch about
- No graphical installer. The current installer is extremely simple and has been streamlined even further in this release. A graphical installer is planned for the next version (Breezy Badger).
- No menu editor installed. One can always edit the files by hand, or install kmenu or something similar for gnome. The official gnome menu editor just didn't finish in time.
- No DivX or MP3 support. These are simple to add though and anyone coming from debian will probably already know of the Marillat repositories. Just look at the instructions in the wiki or use Hoary After-Install helper or another script to do the dirty work for you.
OSDir has published a lot of screenshots of Ubuntu.
Oh and if you are interested to know if your laptop or other piece of hardware is supported, some info can be found in the wiki on the Hardware support-page
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Ubuntu rocks
New stuff include
- Gnome 2.10.1, which makes the desktop a lot faster than before
- X.org
- Simplified update- and package management
- Much faster boot process
- Better laptop support (ie suspending, hibernating, processor frequency scaling)
- Kickstart support for automated largescale installations
- Live CD and Install CD both use the new debian installer infrastructure
- UTF-8 by default
- A program for collecting information about what hardware works and what doesn't
- Kubuntu - complete KDE 3.4 based version of Ubuntu
Stuff people are going to bitch about
- No graphical installer. The current installer is extremely simple and has been streamlined even further in this release. A graphical installer is planned for the next version (Breezy Badger).
- No menu editor installed. One can always edit the files by hand, or install kmenu or something similar for gnome. The official gnome menu editor just didn't finish in time.
- No DivX or MP3 support. These are simple to add though and anyone coming from debian will probably already know of the Marillat repositories. Just look at the instructions in the wiki or use Hoary After-Install helper or another script to do the dirty work for you.
OSDir has published a lot of screenshots of Ubuntu.
Oh and if you are interested to know if your laptop or other piece of hardware is supported, some info can be found in the wiki on the Hardware support-page
Primary mirrors
Other mirrors
Australia Canada Croatia Czech Republic France Germany Germany Ireland Italy Lithuania Namibia Netherlands Norway Portugal Portugal South Africa Spain Switzerland United Kingdom United Kingdom United Kingdom United States United States United States
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Ubuntu rocks
New stuff include
- Gnome 2.10.1, which makes the desktop a lot faster than before
- X.org
- Simplified update- and package management
- Much faster boot process
- Better laptop support (ie suspending, hibernating, processor frequency scaling)
- Kickstart support for automated largescale installations
- Live CD and Install CD both use the new debian installer infrastructure
- UTF-8 by default
- A program for collecting information about what hardware works and what doesn't
- Kubuntu - complete KDE 3.4 based version of Ubuntu
Stuff people are going to bitch about
- No graphical installer. The current installer is extremely simple and has been streamlined even further in this release. A graphical installer is planned for the next version (Breezy Badger).
- No menu editor installed. One can always edit the files by hand, or install kmenu or something similar for gnome. The official gnome menu editor just didn't finish in time.
- No DivX or MP3 support. These are simple to add though and anyone coming from debian will probably already know of the Marillat repositories. Just look at the instructions in the wiki or use Hoary After-Install helper or another script to do the dirty work for you.
OSDir has published a lot of screenshots of Ubuntu.
Oh and if you are interested to know if your laptop or other piece of hardware is supported, some info can be found in the wiki on the Hardware support-page
Primary mirrors
Other mirrors
Australia Canada Croatia Czech Republic France Germany Germany Ireland Italy Lithuania Namibia Netherlands Norway Portugal Portugal South Africa Spain Switzerland United Kingdom United Kingdom United Kingdom United States United States United States
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Ubuntu rocks
New stuff include
- Gnome 2.10.1, which makes the desktop a lot faster than before
- X.org
- Simplified update- and package management
- Much faster boot process
- Better laptop support (ie suspending, hibernating, processor frequency scaling)
- Kickstart support for automated largescale installations
- Live CD and Install CD both use the new debian installer infrastructure
- UTF-8 by default
- A program for collecting information about what hardware works and what doesn't
- Kubuntu - complete KDE 3.4 based version of Ubuntu
Stuff people are going to bitch about
- No graphical installer. The current installer is extremely simple and has been streamlined even further in this release. A graphical installer is planned for the next version (Breezy Badger).
- No menu editor installed. One can always edit the files by hand, or install kmenu or something similar for gnome. The official gnome menu editor just didn't finish in time.
- No DivX or MP3 support. These are simple to add though and anyone coming from debian will probably already know of the Marillat repositories. Just look at the instructions in the wiki or use Hoary After-Install helper or another script to do the dirty work for you.
OSDir has published a lot of screenshots of Ubuntu.
Oh and if you are interested to know if your laptop or other piece of hardware is supported, some info can be found in the wiki on the Hardware support-page
Primary mirrors
Other mirrors
Australia Canada Croatia Czech Republic France Germany Germany Ireland Italy Lithuania Namibia Netherlands Norway Portugal Portugal South Africa Spain Switzerland United Kingdom United Kingdom United Kingdom United States United States United States
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Ubuntu rocks
New stuff include
- Gnome 2.10.1, which makes the desktop a lot faster than before
- X.org
- Simplified update- and package management
- Much faster boot process
- Better laptop support (ie suspending, hibernating, processor frequency scaling)
- Kickstart support for automated largescale installations
- Live CD and Install CD both use the new debian installer infrastructure
- UTF-8 by default
- A program for collecting information about what hardware works and what doesn't
- Kubuntu - complete KDE 3.4 based version of Ubuntu
Stuff people are going to bitch about
- No graphical installer. The current installer is extremely simple and has been streamlined even further in this release. A graphical installer is planned for the next version (Breezy Badger).
- No menu editor installed. One can always edit the files by hand, or install kmenu or something similar for gnome. The official gnome menu editor just didn't finish in time.
- No DivX or MP3 support. These are simple to add though and anyone coming from debian will probably already know of the Marillat repositories. Just look at the instructions in the wiki or use Hoary After-Install helper or another script to do the dirty work for you.
OSDir has published a lot of screenshots of Ubuntu.
Oh and if you are interested to know if your laptop or other piece of hardware is supported, some info can be found in the wiki on the Hardware support-page
Primary mirrors
Other mirrors
Australia Canada Croatia Czech Republic France Germany Germany Ireland Italy Lithuania Namibia Netherlands Norway Portugal Portugal South Africa Spain Switzerland United Kingdom United Kingdom United Kingdom United States United States United States
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Re:YAD!
I agree that there some justification to put this out, but do we *really* need yet another distro?
Yes. If you don't like the distro, don't use it. Distro proliferation only causes two problems: package compatablility and information overload for newbies. The first problem is a very small one if you're using an open, community based distribution. Normal users have all their needs met in the repositories for that distro, and users who need special software either ask someone to package it for them, use alien on a provided package, or compile it themselves. The second problem can be solved by simply asking someone for a distro recommendation. Most people recommend Ubuntu or Mandrake for newbies these days, so it's not really that big of a deal.
So what happens if you declare a moratorium on distribution proliferation? Well, if you did that six months ago, we wouldn't have Ubuntu, which is fairly popular after being out for a short period of time. New distributions bring different ideas to the table, and if it works well, people will use the distro, or other distros will assimlate the ideas. Who knew that you could take Debian unstable's wide array of packages, stabilize them for a month or so, and combine them with simple configuration tools and a community that is friendly by mandate, and end up with what many people were apparently waiting for?
There are many distros out there that build upon a good existing distro and try to make it better. Some try out new packaging systems. I disagree that eliminating all these would be better for Linux as a whole. The benefits from their existence far outweigh the pitfalls, if any. -
Re:Best way to upgrade?
That really depends on what distribution you are "apt-get upgrade"'ing in. Distributions like Ubuntu Linux already have Mozilla Firefox 1.0.2 packages in their "hoary" devel release's "main" apt repository.
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Re:Wasted time..but at least I made moneyYou're so right. No matter how much I tell them to browse with Firefox, not to install software that just "pops up" and certainly not to open things they get sent by strangers via e-mail or IM, they still get infected faster than a 2 dollar hooker.
At my workplace this ain't a problem, because the computers are running either a more secure OS, or locked tight via group policies.
The biggest problem are home users, which I used to provide tech support to. I don't anymore, because even though I got paid for it, it was just not worth the frustration. I always feel unrespected when they keep doing the exact opposite of what I tell them (Eg installing spyware, KaZaA, your_random_porn_searchbar,
...), as soon as I leave their house. I may make a few dollars less, but at least I've got my weekends and evenings back. -
Re:Ubuntu package management
Of course, then you go and actually look at the bug tracker and there it is.
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Re:ACPI suspend?
Based on http://www.ubuntu.com/wiki/HoaryPMResults, a decently large number of machines will do ACPI suspend to RAM now. You probably want vbetool to restore video state after resume.
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Re: I have a jar of blood in the garage to prove i
You can get a basic install working on a modern laptop, but getting all the things windows users take for granted can take work. Lots of work, including installing kernel patches and patches to those patches. You also frequently have to sacrifice goats to get certain features working.
I hate to sound like a fanboy, but try Ubuntu. Admittedly, I am running Hoary (the next version, not yet released), but even Warty is pretty nice. I have it running on a Thinkpad T30, and stuff... just... works! I have not touched any kernel configuration or done much of anything, really. The only thing I've had to do which was even remotely fiddly was messing around with my built-in Cisco Aironet card to get WEP working. Beyond that, ACPI works, suspend to RAM/disk works, CPU scaling works, etc. etc.
I had been running Debian testing/unstable on this laptop, but one day decided to try Ubuntu. I haven't looked back. -
Support for Power and PowerPC...?
Now with FC 4, looks like there will be support [finally?] for Power/PowerPC systems [like the Mac mini mentioned in the article]. Guess this puts YellowDog's FC 2 based distro in jeopardy.
Has anyone tested the latest development of FC 4 for Power/PowerPC? Judging by the boot.iso in the images directory, it looks like it only works on NewWorld ROM based PowerMac and iMac systems...
On a side note, I've been running Ubuntu [Warty] on an older graphite iMac, and have been impressed by it's ease of setup and use...
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Use Ubuntu (Debian)
The people at Ubuntu start with Debian and package it for end users. I have Ubuntu on 2 of my 3 Macs (but both are dual boot) and except for having to install IBM's PowerPC Java SDK, it was just about ready to go.
Why run Linux on a Mac? I find that Linux has less to distract me from work. I like to boot OS X to edit video, etc., but for writing (OpenOffice.org) and programming (Eclipse for Java, Python, and C++) there is less fluff on Linux to distract me from my work. -
Re:Ok this is Bullsh!t
Certainly not. http://ubuntu.com/ was way ahead of them with this.
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Interesting but I'm not convincedI'm a bit cautious with predictions of Microsoft's failure, collapse or whatever in the near future because I've been burned in the past. Back in '96-'97 when Linux was developing at blazing speeds and what Microsoft had was crappy Windows '95 it also looked like they run out of steam. We laughed at Win95 as being a 16-bit overlay for DOS 7.0 (which it basically was) and NT 3.51, well, wasn't exciting at all (though it worked). They almost missed the whole Internet thing, Internet explorer was pathetic in comparison to Netscape. Everyone I knew was sure open source would wipe out likes of Microsoft within a few years.
But none of this happened. Netscape was wiped out, IE dominance is settled even despite IE again looking pathetic in comparison to Mozilla's newest breed. Office still rules and there is nothing to beat it. Open Office? Well, for simple documents and spreadsheets maybe yes. And yes, it has improved a lot over last few years. But still for serious word processing, I'm sorry, but no.
Also Linux is still a great server OS but still can't be considered seriously for the desktop for non-geeks. I've installed Ubuntu three days ago. I was really amazed how little has changed since three years ago when I, sadly, abandoned Linux as my desktop. Again, a few things that can't be done in any other way but by editing config files with, say, vi. I enjoy vi and I still remember what to edit, but does a simple user? And no access to most of applications without reading manuals and adding additional repositories of
.deb packages (mostly for ideological reasons). It is not "install and work", it's still "install and then tweak the things around to get anywhere". This is the part of the mix that makes OS X a success - some OS X users I know were not even aware there was a command line on their system until I showed them. Now, that's how a modern GUI OS should be designed. If there is a Linux distro to match this please let me know, but I think I'll end up buying a PB when I'll save enough money to do it.And in the meantime Microsoft has improved a lot. XP is stable, easy to use and I'm yet to have a virus infection or anything after three years of having it on my PC (which is connected to the net 24/7 on a public address, BTW). Also Office has improved a lot in terms of stability and reliability. I remember using Office 97 which without SR-1 crashed a lot and we had lots of problems with it. Office 2003 I use now is rock stable. This is not exciting, this is nothing new but maybe in these days of computing becoming commonplace (and programming & sysadmining becoming a blue-collar commodity job) what is needed is not excitement but solid, predictable functioning? Can you think of a killer feature now missing from, say, Word that would excite the masses?
So, maybe Microsoft is just maturing with the market. They were a geeky sweatshop when computing was the new, exciting field. They are a solid, respectable, middle-aged corporation now. So, I don't think we will see them sinking anytime soon.
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Hmm...
I sincerely hope the plan is not to outfit each student with one of these ridiculous things. Certainly I learned how to do everything without a computer, and had the honor of seeing computers/internet introduced into the classroom gradually through my education and can tell you that for the most part, they didn't do much.
Most of the uses were for Power Point slides and other useless replacements of existing technology: a blackboard, an eraser, chalk, paper, pencil, etc. It has made research a lot easier, but not necessarily better. You can find stuff faster but is the time savings used to put together more convincing arguments or properly written materials?
I think the $100 laptop is a good idea for schools to have in small numbers, say 1 per classroom at most. If it were up to me I wouldn't have any computers in school outside of a designated "computer lab" as I think they interfere with learning. They are a tool, but they are mostly applied the incorrect way.
I would hope that for the severely impoverished we would worry about other things first, then the laptop. Although certainly it is worthwhile* $100 can buy a lot of books and learning materials.
Negroponte says: "In China they spend $17 per child per year on textbooks. That's for five or six years, so if we can distribute and sell laptops in quantities of one million or more to ministries of education that's cheaper and the marketing overheads go away."
Laptops certainly will have information more current, but laptops also need to be replaced every five or six years, or even less. A broken laptop is more expensive to fix than a broken book.
I would say a better solution is to give each classroom a laptop, say, for every five kids. Then one kid can take it home each night and use it if they wish. But back to my original point, the teacher is the best tool, not the laptop.
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Re:Linux on grandma's desktop?
There is no way to find the right Linux distro for you unless you try some out and that is the beauty of these Live cd's. When looking for a new car do you get overwhelmed because there are about 5 bajillion different make/model/options when looking for a car? A computer is the same, you must do some research and do some test driving first. First of all writeups like these should be of some help to you though you might also want to find a friend or someone you know that uses Linux and get their opinion. Obviously since you are a "power user" you should be able to handle it just fine.
For some recomendations I would check out SLAX and Ubunutu (Live cd download is here
I personally use SUSE, but their Live-CD sucks. If you decide to go with a KDE based distro that is what I would choose. If you like GNOME more I would go with Ubuntu. Also, although a lot of people seem to like Knoppix, I have never really liked it too much (mostly because of the messy menu structure). So there you go, try them out. What have you got to lose (besides some time downloading, bandwidth, and a couple blank cd's)? -
ftp link
seems the torrent doesn't work that well in this case. couldn't get any peers/seeds to even start dling.
here's the ftp link.
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Re:testing?!"basically all of my friends who proudly call them selves sysadmins are running Debian (stable) on their production boxes"
Should that be interpreted as you suggesting you are a Debian missionary or something? I've observed that Debian seems to have a higher proportion of users who advocate it as the One True Linux compared to the other distributions. Only one of my many friends who are sysadmins uses Debian, and only for machines that have been around for awhile. The new stuff gets something like Gentoo, more cumbersome to manage, but quite capable of working in production. He used to be an advocate/missionary, but recently lost faith
;)As far as desktop Debian flavors... Ubuntu seems to be a getting a lot of traction lately. I haven't spent any time checking it out yet (its on the list to research further, but not high on the list), but seems to be gaining popularity.
I was a fan of Storm and Progeny, back in the day, but both are effectively dead (Storm being stone-cold dead, and Progeny's near death experience stopped their progress IMO). Now, I wouldn't recommend Debian for desktop or server to any friends, colleagues, or casual acquaintances, sysadmin or not.
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For something that really levels your PPC....
...try Ubuntu Linux.
Among other things, it gets new releases every 6 months, it's Debian based, recognized my hardware on both powerbooks (G3 and G4), including my 3rd party wireless cards.
Yes, the logo and default desktop's image and sound are weirdly voodoistic and/or sexually disoriented, but hey, so are butterflies.
But the great thing is that it ain't no PPC distro, its actually a PPC/i386/amd64, so you get to have all machines, regardless of their color or religion, running the same SO.
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Modern distro on old computersAs someone who just installed Ubuntu Linux and Fedora Core 3 on an old laptop (128 MB on a Celeron 433), I can tell you that a modern distro will walk, crawl, or at times just sit there, on an old computer.
It will not run though!
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Re:Size?
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Live CD Torrent File
'Cos we all know that P2P is essentially evil and serves no purpose for legal distribution of large files, even so here's the BitTorrent Link
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Re:Linux on the Mac is for Masochists...
You should be able to do USB scanners, printers, and Bluetooth pretty much out of the box (although you need an external repository for Bluetooth stuff as it's still in development). If you plug in hardware and it doesn't Just Work, we consider this a bug, so please file one!
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Re:Controversial theme?
you can view a log of the meeting here http://people.ubuntu.com/~thom/ubuntu-artwork-mee
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Re:Nature theme
That would be Mark himself. And they weren't actually naked-as-in-no-clothes, only naked-as-in-no-burkhas.
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Re:Controversial theme...
I cannot claim that I am running it ATM, but from the screenshots in the article http://osdir.com/shots/slideshows/slideshow.php?r
e lease=152&slide=34, (which I notice is still the RC) the default GDM theme is the One That Shall Not Be Named.However, further perusal of the mailing list archive reveals that they had a community meeting on the 18th of Oct, and they decided to change the artwork to something without images, and proveded the "Circle of Friends" GDM theme as an alternative.
Kudos to Ubuntu! (Bads to me for not reading the whole archive!)
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Re:Controversial theme...
I cannot claim that I am running it ATM, but from the screenshots in the article http://osdir.com/shots/slideshows/slideshow.php?r
e lease=152&slide=34, (which I notice is still the RC) the default GDM theme is the One That Shall Not Be Named.However, further perusal of the mailing list archive reveals that they had a community meeting on the 18th of Oct, and they decided to change the artwork to something without images, and proveded the "Circle of Friends" GDM theme as an alternative.
Kudos to Ubuntu! (Bads to me for not reading the whole archive!)