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Re: Too far south? Maybe not!
Actually, I remember seeing the Aurora (albeit very, very faintly) outside of Chicago in 1989 or so, during a similar storm. My folks and I had to drive about 8 miles out of town to a forest preserve to get far enough away from the city lights to see it, but, it was there.
Last night, I hauled ass down to Sabino Canyon and found a good place in the hills where light pollution was very low, layed down on the hood of my car and gave my eyes a good 20 minutes to adjust. No Aurora. :)
Bowie J. Poag
Project Founder, PROPAGANDA For Linux (http://metalab.unc.edu/propaganda) -
Re:Actually, I only partially support that post
Well, think about this..Its a simple example:
Boy X grows up in house with guns.
Will Boy X be predisposed to solving his problems with guns?
The answer is neither Yes, or No. It all depends on how Boy X was raised. If Boy X was raised with a strong sense of civic responsibility, and a healthy respect for guns, then Boy X will not be predisposed to solving his problems with guns.
However, if Boy X is raised in a home without a stable set of parents, where there are guns lying around all over the place, and he's parked infront of a damn television all day, then I'd say yes, Boy X _will_ be predisposed to solving his problems with guns.
Make sense?
Bowie J. Poag
Project Founder, PROPAGANDA For Linux (http://metalab.unc.edu/propaganda) -
the most useful thing in the article
The linux repair disks mentioned in the article are the coolest and most useful Tech helper I have come across in a long time.
This is the one mentioned in the article it works great.
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Hmmm..
Nothing in the skies above Tucson, as of midnight.
Bowie J. Poag
Project Founder, PROPAGANDA For Linux (http://metalab.unc.edu/propaganda) -
Re:Actually, I only partially support that post
Well, no one's arguing wether or not children imitate the things they are exposed to. Theyre pre-programmed from birth to do just that. However, its wrong to conclude that _exposure_ always leads immediately to a _change_ in the child. It can, but not always.
Growing up outside of Chicago, I knew the phone number for Empire Carpet before I knew my own. If I were exposed to strongly negative things, often enough, I would have undoubtedly been changed by it.
Case in point -- I remember when I was in High School, I watched Reginald Denny get dragged out of an 18-wheeler and nearly beaten to death by a mob of black people on live television. 90 seconds. It nearly made me puke at the time I saw it, it still makes me ill to some degree. 90 seconds was all it took. I cant even imagine how I would have felt if instead of being 16, I was say, 9 or 10.
Bowie J. Poag
Project Founder, PROPAGANDA For Linux (http://metalab.unc.edu/propaganda) -
Boys, guns, fantasy, and morons.
When I was a kid in the late 70's/early 80's, we had a games we all knew about in the neighborhood. Ahh yes, back in the pre-PC age of analog, we had to come up with games instead of buying them, believe it or not. We had three neighborhood favorites. "Ghost In The Graveyard", "Smear The Queer", and "Guns".
In "Ghost In The Graveyard", we played it only at night. One person was selected to go somewhere in the neighborhood and hide. The rest of us would split up and search for the ghost. The fun came when you had the crap scared out of you when you came across the person hiding, or heard a scream of terror somewhere in the neighborhood. I liked Ghost In The Graveyard, and played it alot. However, it didn't make me worship satan and bite the heads off of chickens later in life. It was a game.
At the risk of sounding patronizing, or incredibly insensitive towards gays, i'll tell you about the next game. "Smear The Queer" was a variant of rugby. Before the days of political correctness, it was a sure-fire way of humilitating and physically punishing your friends as a group. The person with the football ran around and had to avoid relinquishing posession of it, even after being tackled and beaten into submission. I liked playing Smear The Queer, and played it alot. However, it didn't make me a gay-bashing redneck later in life. It was a game.
Similarly, "Guns" was alot of fun. Any object in the household that even vaguely resembled a firearm was used in an imaginary war of attrition with a line drawn between houses. In my case, I managed to get a discarded power-drill from my dad which looked vastly more impressive than the simple garden-hose sprayers and silicone caulking guns the other kids had. We chased eachother around the neighborhood, the 6 of us, for hours on end, jumping over cars and diving over bushes, hiding under stairwells and such, our imaginations running wild with the thought of gunning down our friends in a real-life Quake arena, if you will.
However, it didnt make me a homocidal mainiac with an unquenchable thirst for human suffering. It was a game.
So, here I am, 20 years later. I have no interest in the occult. I have no urge to physically assault gay people, and I have no bizzare fixation with firearms. Infact, it would scare me to even know someone involved in any of those activities, let alone be a participant in any of those activities myself.
When the line between fantasy and reality is blurred in the mind of a child, you can often times look directly at that kid's parents and point out very, very severe problems in how they handled the task of raising their child. Dylan Klebold left his house every morning wearing a black trenchcoat with a swastika armband on, leaving a sawed-off shotgun ontop of the dresser in his bedroom. His parents did nothing about it, unfortunately. And by the time they understood the gravity of their own neglect of their child, a dozen or more kids lay dead in a school.
Your upbringing wont cause you to become a psychopath later in life. The _lack_ of an upbringing, however, will. Thats not to say that companies like Id are immune from scrutiny but the fault most often lies with internal causes rather than external ones, like TV, music, or entertainment in general, IMHO.
Flame away. Thats how I see it, and i'm-a stickin' to it.
Bowie J. Poag
Project Founder, PROPAGANDA For Linux (http://metalab.unc.edu/propaganda) -
Damnit, Hemos!
>5 other people have yet to be sequenced, not 4. I should know. I'm one of em.
(chuckle)
Bowie J. Poag
Project Founder, PROPAGANDA For Linux (http://metalab.unc.edu/propaganda) -
Re:And what about compability?
Yes, but you have to concede that font management on X (or is it Netscapes fault?) is crap. I had the similar problem with other sites. The solution was to get xfstt (a free truetype font sserver for X), setup and create a link to my windows fonts directory (yes, I dual-boot... Falcon 4.0).
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Here are the links....
Here is the main ftp site and a mirror that has it. - Red Hat's FTP Site With ISOs. - Metalabs 6.2 Mirror With ISOs.
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Yes it is...
Yes, this is real, I infact sent a submission to
./'s team of submission monkeys with aibo inplants that enable them to sort through the masses of articles... or not. :) Anyways, yes, its real, Here is the main ftp site and a mirror that has it. - Red Hat's FTP Site - Metalabs Mirror for the files, I ust burned a copy of it for mysel, and even installed it, the SPARC version, and it works great. Good Luck. -
* Here is the Main FTP and some Mirrors *
Here is the main ftp site and a mirror that has it. - Red Hat's FTP Site - Metalabs Mirror
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Red Hat Linux 6.2 Release notes
There's a release notes here. Well, I'm happy with RedHat 5.1 Manhattan. No need to upgrade.
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Actually we do release ISOs
Subject says it all - don't judge a new version by what is on a mirror that's not done downloading (the fact that it's publically accessible while in this state is a bug).
Once they're finished downloading, the iso will be at
ftp://metalab. unc.edu/pub/Linux/distributions/redhat/redhat-6.2/ iso.
Also, if you don't like it, let me know WHY (not that I'd agree). We're here to fix things. -
Find errors; send emailI'm the guy who maintains the main FTP sites for Project Gutenberg. Yes, I know Michael Hart. Yes, he really does eat that way. I believe the sandwich in question was served up at the Courier Cafe in Urbana.
Just a quick request/plea/suggestion: if you find a typo in a Project Gutenberg etext, please email me the fix. Or, fix the text and email me the text! There are definite quality problems with stuff prior to 1994 especially....today, though, the etexts have higher quality standards and go through more proofreading before posting.
promo.net/pg for the listings; you can link to any of the 2500+ etexts from there. Thanks.
my email: gbnewby@ils.unc.edu
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Link to "The Right to Read"
Here is a link to download "The Right to Read" by Richard M. Stallman that I mentioned in my previous post. It's a short story, only about 23kB.
All three versions have a really long copyright notice and licence agreement at the beginning. Just scroll down past that to get to the story. Each of these is the same text, but in a different format or language. There is only one part to the story.
- The Right to Read (English, HTML)
- The Right to Read (English, plain text)
- Le droit de lire ("The Right to Read" in French, HTML)
I seriously doubt we will ever live in a "copyright nation" as described in the story, but I believe the closed operation of these "e-books," combined with mass-media provider paranoia (look at the music and movie industries) does give us the potential...
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Link to "The Right to Read"
Here is a link to download "The Right to Read" by Richard M. Stallman that I mentioned in my previous post. It's a short story, only about 23kB.
All three versions have a really long copyright notice and licence agreement at the beginning. Just scroll down past that to get to the story. Each of these is the same text, but in a different format or language. There is only one part to the story.
- The Right to Read (English, HTML)
- The Right to Read (English, plain text)
- Le droit de lire ("The Right to Read" in French, HTML)
I seriously doubt we will ever live in a "copyright nation" as described in the story, but I believe the closed operation of these "e-books," combined with mass-media provider paranoia (look at the music and movie industries) does give us the potential...
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Link to "The Right to Read"
Here is a link to download "The Right to Read" by Richard M. Stallman that I mentioned in my previous post. It's a short story, only about 23kB.
All three versions have a really long copyright notice and licence agreement at the beginning. Just scroll down past that to get to the story. Each of these is the same text, but in a different format or language. There is only one part to the story.
- The Right to Read (English, HTML)
- The Right to Read (English, plain text)
- Le droit de lire ("The Right to Read" in French, HTML)
I seriously doubt we will ever live in a "copyright nation" as described in the story, but I believe the closed operation of these "e-books," combined with mass-media provider paranoia (look at the music and movie industries) does give us the potential...
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metalab.unc.edu/gutenberg/etext93/pimil10.txtThe blurb pointed by FTP to uiarchive.uiuc.edu, one of the Project Gutenberg mirror sites. This only allows 100 simultaneous users, though.
For the Project Gutenberg edition of the first 10K digits of Pi, try:
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Re:The Heart of ItJeffersonian pedigree ought not cause us to eschew careful analysis of what's being said. (Nor should it encourage blind adherence, thankfully, else we might have revolutions every two decades, as Jefferson advised elsewhere.)
Katz, you only reproduced part of Jefferson's quote. In the sentences preceding your excerpt, he makes it far more clear that he is speaking of abstract ideas. In fact, here's a larger version of the quote from an essay by John Perry Barlow. (I presume you've read this piece, which I just spent a very profitable few minutes doing.)
Certainly intellectual property needs to be reconceived so it reflects the ease with which "copying" (against which "copyright" protects) may be executed in our digital age. But people who create new information (artistic, for instance) or who add some value to information (perhaps by compiling or reorganizing it) must be paid for their efforts lest they lose incentive. This is not an abstract point. Consider the Feist Supreme Court case wherein a company's database was stolen in its entirety, and the Court ruled that, since facts cannot be copyrighted, the stolen database is not protected by copyright - despite the thousands of hours of work that went into its compilation. Since then, database makers have waged war in Washington, hoping to get from Congress the profit-producing protection that the Court stripped away.
Lessig notwithstanding, corporations will find technological ways to preserve (or create artificial) scarcity of information, since scarcity is what gives something its value. Information and ideas no more long to be free than a pizza longs to be eaten. Certain benevolent and generous creators, like Ben Franklin with his eponymous stove, will decide not to pursue legal protection for new ideas, so they might be freely available to all. Why should others, like musicians whose originality is critically acclaimed, be forced to freely give out the fruits of their labor? I find that absurd, not the scenario you consider absurd.
(And you cannot validly argue that the $15 billion the music industry made last year is evidence that digital music transfers are not harming the music industry; perhaps they would have made $16 billion were it not for the transfers of MP3s that Jack Valenti goofily calls "pilfering.")
If you say ideas cannot be owned, then go a step further: Why can land be owned? Why can pencils be owned? There are people who would argue that neither can be. Some would argue that the only thing that can be owned is your own body (which brings to mind the passages where Hegel, that hideous fraud of a philosopher, talked about owning food only once you have eaten it). And some would go even further, saying that you cannot even own your body - but that it belongs to God or the state or some greater human good.
Clearly we need to carefully reconsider intellectual property in light of technological changes. And we must vigorously work to educate our government about the changes. But that's no reason to discard the system altogether, or to pretend that technology has discarded it for us.
Perhaps the second part of your post will consider these matters.
A. Keiper
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Nanomedicine and nanotechnology can be safeI was a reviewer for Nanomedicine and I speak with Robert Freitas frequently. He is very serious about designing nanobot medical devices so they are non-replicating, have numerous failsafes, and do not create the possible problems most people envision. One reason writing all three volumes will take 6 years is the depth of analysis that has to be done to meet this standard. While it is doubtful that a single individual can think of everything, Nanomedicine clearly will lay the foundation for safe and very useful nanobots such as Respirocytes.
The problems mentioned by Bill Joy in his interview point out how poorly informed he is. Anyone who has been in the computer industry as long as he has, should know enough to "read the manual(s)" before offering uninformed opinions. The problems regarding nanotechnology run amok have been discussed for many years in the sci.nanotech newsgroups as well as at conferences for the Foresight Institute's Senior Associates. The basic solutions involve making "safe" (e.g. reviewed, open source) designs available while at the same time developing defenses against nanotech run amok. The Extropy Institute's Mailing List Archives, for example, contains recent discussions about encouraging the availability of "almost anything" manufacturing boxes (similar to Star Trek "replicators"), while discouraging the availability of "everything" boxes.
Diamondoid or saphire based molecularly assembled nanobots used in medical applications will greatly exceed the capabilities in of "biobots" built on existing genetic machines (DNA, enzymes, bacteria, cells, etc.) because they are stronger, can pack the "code" more densely, and can have more complex programs than the rather "ad hoc" designs that nature has provided us with. Most of the first volume of Nanomedicine is devoted to determining exactly what the physical limits will be on power, communication, mobility, etc. Most of the applications will be discussed in Volumes II and III.
Joy may be right that the technology poses a threat to the "human species", but that begs the question of "Why would you want to run on obsolete hardware?". Anyone who understands even a little astronomy knows that galactic hazards doom biological human forms to death at some point. Only those humans who choose to upload have any hope of living the trillion or so years that seems quite feasible. So while the hopes for biochemical humans are rather dismal even with Nanomedicine, the long term prospects for humanity, based on what nanotechnology allows are quite good indeed.
As far as nanotechnology background material goes, the best (nontechnical) source is Engines of Creation. Other references can be found in Eric Drexler's CV.
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Linux from scratch?
I can't help but think about the HOWTO I read recently that outlined how to build a Linux installation from scratch. I think it would be a good way to teach students how an OS is built from the ground up, not as much as from the code level but where everything goes, how to config it all, etc. Worth a peek, at least. Maybe as a side project.
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Re:Ugly LinuxI can only praise the inclusion in XFree86 of the JMK fonts as a standard. They are by far more readable than every other fixed-width font, and comes in a well assorted number of encodings. Since I adopted them everywhere, my eye strain greatly reduced.
FYI, I use a -jmk-neep-medium-r-normal--20-*-*-*-c-*-iso8859-1 on 1280x1024 17" displays. The `&' may look bizarre at first, but it's definitively impossible to mistake it for an `8' anymore (at every font size).
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Re:Fonts still AWFUL!There are a couple of things that you can do to improve fonts:
- Look at the Font De-uglification HOWTO
FDU-Mini HOWTO - Install some True Type fonts from
...... Microsoft!
They have a fontpack
which provides some nice stuff like Arial Black etc...and then install one of the TT font servers:- One of the most popular is xfsft
- Another available for download is xfstt
- Use RH6.1 which has xfs prepatched with xfsft for TT fonts
- If it's just the sizes that bother you, that's a pretty oldish problem which is fixed by switching the order of the 100dpi and 75dpi fonts in your font catalogue
There's a note about it from as far back as NS2 at bigfontsthat might help - Finally Christopher Browne has really helpful web-pages with this topic indexed (among many others) at cbbrowne
--Crush - Look at the Font De-uglification HOWTO
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Re:Fonts still AWFUL!
The problem is really with the abysmal state of fonts in X in general. The best thing any person using Netscape under X can do for themselves is get the Microsoft web fonts and install them. Web pages look dramatically better in both Netscape and Mozilla.
xfstt is probably the easiest X truetype font server to configure. If you went nutty trying to get the patched xfs in RedHat to work, give xfstt a try. -
Gutenberg Factoid
This is pretty much apropo of nuthin' (sorry), but it thought might interests folks: the oldest etext availible through Proj Gut is a version of Milton's Paradise Lost. It was originally converted to ASCII in 1964 or 65, and had to be input using IBM punch cards-- something like 100,000 of them. Ah, to be young again, manually punching bits out of cardboard with a sharp stick.
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Re:Hooray
Obviously you should get some St. John's Warts.
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Today's Dr Fun
Check out Wednesday's Doctor Fun. It's about ergonomics. He must be a
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Doctor FunI'd post about the Knuth article, but of course I can't get it
;) Anyone with a mirror?GeorgieBoy posted a link to an ftp dir of Dr. Fun commics, but here is a link to an HTML front end for them here Dr. Fun
S.
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Here's one for the Star Wars fans...
I wonder if he found this book in the Sith Help section?
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Doctor Fun
Gee, looking at more of the comics in the Doctor Fun link on metalab makes me wonder why I haven't seen this guy before. Some of them are REALLY funny.
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Ghost of usenet posting past.Maybe one reason for decline of Usenet is Dejanews. People know that everything they ever write to usenet is stored forever in databases and your potential employers might look what you have written in net in you wild youth. Dr. Fun had good strip about that in 1996, that can be found at
http://metalab.unc.edu/Dave/Dr-Fun/df9601/df96012
4 .jpgOn the other hand nowdays your friends in real life might also read usenet and if you don't have very good verbal skills and you are not winner in this fame-oriented discussion you are considered as stupid loser. You might even lost your friends at the end. So you better to keep quiet.
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Re:Definitely do read Jules Verne!And if You want to save money doing it: Download the texts from Project Gutenberg. Here are some links to the the actual texts:
- 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea
- Around the World in 80 Days
- From the Earth to the Moon
- In Search of the Castaways
- Michael Strogoff
- Mysterious Island, The
- Off on a Comet! A journey through planetary space
- Survivors of the Chancellor, The
- Underground City, or, The child of the cavern, The
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Re:Definitely do read Jules Verne!And if You want to save money doing it: Download the texts from Project Gutenberg. Here are some links to the the actual texts:
- 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea
- Around the World in 80 Days
- From the Earth to the Moon
- In Search of the Castaways
- Michael Strogoff
- Mysterious Island, The
- Off on a Comet! A journey through planetary space
- Survivors of the Chancellor, The
- Underground City, or, The child of the cavern, The
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Re:Definitely do read Jules Verne!And if You want to save money doing it: Download the texts from Project Gutenberg. Here are some links to the the actual texts:
- 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea
- Around the World in 80 Days
- From the Earth to the Moon
- In Search of the Castaways
- Michael Strogoff
- Mysterious Island, The
- Off on a Comet! A journey through planetary space
- Survivors of the Chancellor, The
- Underground City, or, The child of the cavern, The
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Re:Definitely do read Jules Verne!And if You want to save money doing it: Download the texts from Project Gutenberg. Here are some links to the the actual texts:
- 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea
- Around the World in 80 Days
- From the Earth to the Moon
- In Search of the Castaways
- Michael Strogoff
- Mysterious Island, The
- Off on a Comet! A journey through planetary space
- Survivors of the Chancellor, The
- Underground City, or, The child of the cavern, The
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Re:Definitely do read Jules Verne!And if You want to save money doing it: Download the texts from Project Gutenberg. Here are some links to the the actual texts:
- 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea
- Around the World in 80 Days
- From the Earth to the Moon
- In Search of the Castaways
- Michael Strogoff
- Mysterious Island, The
- Off on a Comet! A journey through planetary space
- Survivors of the Chancellor, The
- Underground City, or, The child of the cavern, The
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Re:Definitely do read Jules Verne!And if You want to save money doing it: Download the texts from Project Gutenberg. Here are some links to the the actual texts:
- 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea
- Around the World in 80 Days
- From the Earth to the Moon
- In Search of the Castaways
- Michael Strogoff
- Mysterious Island, The
- Off on a Comet! A journey through planetary space
- Survivors of the Chancellor, The
- Underground City, or, The child of the cavern, The
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Re:Definitely do read Jules Verne!And if You want to save money doing it: Download the texts from Project Gutenberg. Here are some links to the the actual texts:
- 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea
- Around the World in 80 Days
- From the Earth to the Moon
- In Search of the Castaways
- Michael Strogoff
- Mysterious Island, The
- Off on a Comet! A journey through planetary space
- Survivors of the Chancellor, The
- Underground City, or, The child of the cavern, The
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Re:Definitely do read Jules Verne!And if You want to save money doing it: Download the texts from Project Gutenberg. Here are some links to the the actual texts:
- 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea
- Around the World in 80 Days
- From the Earth to the Moon
- In Search of the Castaways
- Michael Strogoff
- Mysterious Island, The
- Off on a Comet! A journey through planetary space
- Survivors of the Chancellor, The
- Underground City, or, The child of the cavern, The
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Re:Definitely do read Jules Verne!And if You want to save money doing it: Download the texts from Project Gutenberg. Here are some links to the the actual texts:
- 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea
- Around the World in 80 Days
- From the Earth to the Moon
- In Search of the Castaways
- Michael Strogoff
- Mysterious Island, The
- Off on a Comet! A journey through planetary space
- Survivors of the Chancellor, The
- Underground City, or, The child of the cavern, The
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Re:Zork!This one's easy. A google search for "zork" revealed the following useful link: INFOCOM Tribute Homepage, which contains walkthroughs, downloads, information, history, trivia, etc., for a lot of Infocom games.
And you can download a number of Z-machine interpreters from Metalab. In my spare time, I've been fiddling with a Z-machine front-end for IRC, but I have nothing to show for my efforts yet
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Re:Command line version?
i dont use x much and dont want the extra load of something i'm not going to look at, so i stick to command line players. normally i use amp, but for the extra functionality of a playlist and an ncurses based interface i use gamp. gamp is still in the early stages and occasionally wont play certain tracks, but it is a good start. I hope to finish some improvements to it and get a new version up soon.
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Re:coredump --> minduploading.org!Nice to see Kurzweil at it... nevertheless, he was by far not the first to come up with this.
Check out much older information on mind uploading (also called "Whole Brain Emulation") at Joe Strout's site The Mind Uploading HomePage.
Or treat yourself to the much more recent main site of all things mind uploading:
You can even join a mailing list intended for the exchange of information relevant to research into mind uploading:
MURG (the Mind Uploading Research Group)
Serious participation in the discussions and sharing of information is very welcome!
See you there!
Moderators anyone?
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A lot sooner than 30 years away
Sci-Fi or not, this is a reality we will face soon. I found this article explaining some more nondestructive methods of scanning neurons, and some of them sound like they could be in practice before the end of the decade.
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There is extended LaserJet support in Linux...... sort of.
Back in 1994 a HP LaserJet device driver for Linux was developed and released, which ran the specific BiTronics protocol (aka. IEEE something) LaserJets use: http://meta lab.unc.edu/pub/Linux/kernel/patches/misc/bt-ALPH
A -0.0.1.lsmAccording to the author, there was not much interest in the driver, including Linus not showing interest in including it in the kernel. So development stopped after the initial release. In other words, Linux could have had special HP support for years now, if there would have been a demand for it.
Let's hope that this new effort by VA and HP will result in some strong HP support and improvements in the printing system.
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PreBuilt Solaris PackagesSolaris has had 'prebuilt' software for years, predating the entire concept of RPM.
They are called 'packages' and a large archive of ready-to-roll Solaris binaries for Sparc and Intel is available at http://metalab.unc.edu/pub/solaris/sparc/
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YAM (Yet Another Mirror...)
Here's another. This one also contains some other files to help form the basis of a Linux DVD Player.
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Mirrors part 1Visit Humpin! (No, it's not what you think!)
Temporary restraining order DENIED!
Thanks to the efforts of the Electronic Frontier Foundation and the organization and support provided by a few of our fellow defendants we are still here! Another hearing is scheduled for January 14th.
We would like to point out to all of the mirror sites with things like "fuck the lawyers" on them that it is because of a generous group of lawyers that we are still here. These lawyers are working for free (or much less than they could get by going over to the Dark Side) and don't deserve this kind of abuse.
Here is the EFF's stance on this case.
Save a copy of this web page now!
We have just been informed that the DVD Copy Control Association is seeking a restraining order against us (named as "Doe 28") for distributing DeCSS and linking to pages that distribute it and linking to pages that link to pages that distribute it.
Section 48 of this request states that we supposedly "have received notice through the MPA and refused to remove the information at issue". This is absolutely false! We have never received any such request (from the MPA or anybody else for that matter) and we obviously were not given the opportunity to refuse! Either Jared Bobrow needs to go back to law school or the DVD CCA needs to get a new firm. This is the kind of sloppy work that could get an important document thrown out.
Here is a 2600 story on this.
Explanation on legality of this information
The software (source as well as binaries) offered on this site can be freely redistributed because it was published under the GNU General Public License. The purpose of this software is not illegal copying of DVD disks. It is meant to provide information necessary to be able to program a DVD player for Linux. To do this, the CSS system needs to be incorporated in the player. Recently the (very weak) DVD content scrambling system was deciphered, freeing the way for a Linux DVD player. The CSS system is not a copy protection system, since it does not prevent copying of the disk. Writing information about the way an encryption scheme functions is completely legal. The source code and binaries on this site are completely legal too, since they contain no code from the DVD consortium or its members. The sources and programs on this site were written by third parties using clean-room reverse engineering methods which are (ready?) completly legal.
Attention www.rhythm.cx was hosting a list of mirrors for these files. That list of mirrors has been replaced with a page reading "This site has been taken down for legal reasons." Here's what the maintainer put on the site the day it was shut down:
NOTE (Thu, Nov 11, 12:17pm EST): I've recently been informed that a law firm which is likely to be one that would try get these mirrors taken down has been visiting this mirror site as well as others. With that said, there is a possibility that I may have to remove this site in the near future because like everyone else, I can't afford to go to court to fight it. Luckly, it seems fairly unlikely that any law firm will ever be able to get rid of all these mirrors at this point (there are currently 41 in 8 different countries and this list is growing every day). However, I have only seen very few mirror _lists_ like this one anyplace. If anyone has the resources, it might be wise to mirror this list of mirrors as well so that the right people will still know that these mirrors exist.
Here is a 2600 story with more details on how rhythm.cx was shut down.
Current Mirrors Last updated: Wed, Jan 19, 12:13am EST
Numbers are only for the maintainer's convenienceWe apologize for the length of time between updates. This list has gotten quite large and thus more difficult to maintain.
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- http://www.humpin.org/decss/DeCSS.zip and http://www.humpin.org/decss/decss.tar.gz
- http://www.2600.com/news/1999/11 12-files/DeCSS.zip/ and http://www.2600.com/news/1 999/1112-files/css-auth.tar.gz
- http://douglas.min.net/~drw/css-auth/
- http://www.devzero.org/freecss.html
- http://www.chello.nl/~f
.vanwaveren/css-auth/css-auth.tar.gz - http://www.geociti es.com/ResearchTriangle/Campus/8877/index.html
- http://www.angelfire.com/mt/popefelix/
- http://www.vexed.net/CSS
- http://members.brabant.chello.nl/~j.vr eeken/
- http://www.dvd.eavy.de/css-auth.tar.gz and http://www.dvd.eavy.de/DeCSS.zip
- http://www.eavy.net/stuff/dvd/css-aut h.tar.gz and http://www.eavy.net/stuff/dvd/DeCSS.zip
- http://frozenlinux.com/local/decss/in dex.html
- http://dirtass.beyatch.net/decss.zip
- http://decss.tripod.com/index.html
- http://www.free-dvd.org.lu/
- http://www.angelfire.com/in2/mirror/
- http://batman.jytol.fi/~vuori/dvd/
- http://www.zpok.demon.co.uk/deCSS/CSS.ht ml
- http://plato.nebulanet.net:88/css/
- http://www.logorrhea.com/main.html
- http://people.delphi.com/salfter/LiVi d.tar.gz
- ftp://193.219.56.32/pub/dvd/LiVi d.CVS-11.06.tar.gz and ftp://193.219.56. 32/pub/dvd/LiVid.CVS-11.06.css-stuff-only.tar.gz
- http://merlin.keble.ox.ac.uk/~a drian/css/index.html
- http://www.dvd-copy.com/
- http://www.sent.freeserve.co.uk/css -auth.tar.gz and http://www.sent.freeserve.co.uk/DeCSS.zip
- http://www.lemuria.org/DeCSS/
- http://members.theglobe.com/avoiderm an/dvd.htm
- http://remco.xgov.net/dvd/
- http://www.twistedlogic.com/htm l/tl_archive_map.htm
- http:/
/munitions.polkaroo.net/software/algorithms/stream ciphers/decss.tar.gz - http://muni tions.dyn.org/software/algorithms/streamciphers/d
e css.tar.gz - http://uk1. munitions.net/software/algorithms/streamciphers/d
e css.tar.gz - http://muni tions.firenze.linux.it/algorithms/streamciphers/d
e css.tar.gz - http://www.irgendeinedomain.de/decs s/index.html
- http://therapy.endorphin.org/DVD/
- http://killer.discordia.ch
/Politics/Copyprotection.phtml - http://linuxvideo.org/
- http://www.geocities.com/SiliconV alley/Port/3224/
- ftp://ftp.one.net/pub/user s/dmahurin/files/software/dvd/
- ftp://ftp.charm.net/pub/usr/home/dutch/ or http://www.charm.net/~dutch/
- http://dsl129.drizzle.com:2001/downlo ads/DVD/
- http://perso.libertysurf. fr/ortal98/dvd_rip/decss_12b.zip
- http://users.drak.net/bem ann/software/css/css-auth.tar.gz and http://users.drak.net/bemann/so ftware/css/DeCSS.zip
- http://www.angelfire.com/movies/decss
- http://www.angelfire.com/myband/decss/
- http://josefine.ben.tuwien.ac.at/~davi d/dvd/
- http://www.c0ke.com/DVD/
- http://rockme.virtualave.net/
- http://amor.rz.hu-berlin.de/~h0444t2v/
- http://www.quintessenz.at/q/index.html
- http://www.dvdlinks.co.uk/css/
- http://www.fortunecit y.com/tinpan/tylerbridge/679/dvdcss.html
- http://www.crosswinds.net/~valo/DeCSS/
- http://members.home.com/christopherlee/ dvd/
- http://members.xoom.com/freedecss/
- http://www.dynamsol.com/satanix/DeCSS.zip and http://www.dynamsol.com/satanix/css -auth.tar.gz
- http://mun itions.cifs.org/software/algorithms/streamciphers
/ decss.tar.gz - http://www.able-towers.com/~flow/
- http://www.cgocable.net/~jdionne/css/
- http://people.mn.mediaone.net/bojay/s lashdot/
- http://www.capital.net/~mazzic
- http://24.108.23.121/DeCSS/
- http://members.tripod.com/donotsueme/
- http://donotsueme.homepage.com
- http://www.homestead.com/donotsueme/ index.html
- http://donotsueme.freeservers.com/
- http://www.angelfire.com/punk/donotsueme/
- http://www.rz.uni-frankfurt.de/~marsie/
- http://209.178.22.9/protest/
- http://www.bard.org.il/~marc/dvd
- http://www.geocities.com/RainFor est/4360/decss.zip
- http://www.altern.com/tfagart/decss.zip
- http://www.itouch.net/~jm/dvd.html
- http://ils.unc.edu/inls183/resources
.shtml#DVD - http://avdira.cc.duth.gr/~kkonstan/css/
- http://www.multimania.com/sxpert/decss/
- http://www.posexperts.com.pl/peopl e/wrobell/css/
- http://www.koek.net/dvd/
- http://www.cyberchrist.org/freecss.html
- http://www.ozemail.com.au/~cybe rchrist/freecss.html
- http://www.planet.net.au/~coram/
- http://www.geek.co.il/css/
- http://www.datacomm.ch/adrien/decss/ index.html
- http://home.rmci.net/bert/fuckthelawyers/
- http://unimatrix.dyndns.org/fucklawyers/
- http://www.isn.net/~dsimeone/DeCSS.zip
- http://logical-solutions.com.au/DeCSS.zip
- http://www.fsp.com/
- http://www.warren-wilson.edu/~echerry/dvd
- http://www.mafkees.com/dvd
- http://dB.org/dvd/
- http://dcwi.com/~wench/decss
- http://dvdcss.newmail.ru
- http://www.subcor.com
- http://www.frankw.net/decss
- http://danger-island.com/~dav/any.lawyer.who/quot
e s.this.url/gives.permission/for .his.residence.to.be.searched/any.bootleg.audio/vi deo/tape.found/nullifies.legal.and.moral .standing/ - http://www.fortunecity.com/vi ctorian/parkwood/95/DVD/
- http://www.asleep.net/dvd
- http://members.xoom.com/NiKeX
- http://www.geocit ies.com/ResearchTriangle/Station/2819/index.html
- http://www.execpc.com/~unicorn/dvdmirr or.htm
- http://members.xoom.com/chapter3/Mamma No.htm
- http://wiw.org/~drz/css/
- http://merlinjim.freeservers.com/dvd/
- http://www.visi.com/~adept/liberty
- http://www.ct2600.org/2600-DVD.html
- http://magic.hurrah.com/~fireball/dvd/
- ftp://ftp.foon.net/pub/decss
- http://osiris.978.org/~brianr/css/
- http://earnestdesigns.com/dvd
- http://www.satl.com/~satlpop6/
- ftp://cm-d0415.resnet.ucsc.edu/p ub/css-auth.tar.gz
- http://www.mit.edu/afs/sipb/user
/mycroft/css-auth/ - http://www.eyrie.demon.co.uk/derek/dvd/c ss
- http://ananke.hack.pl
- http://budice.ancients.net/www.free -dvd.org.lu/
- http://kesagatame.tripod.com
- http://www.angelfire.com/pokemon/decss
- http://www.gnosis.cx/download/DeCSS.zip
- http://bone.powersurfr.com/DeCSS/
- http://wakeupthe.net/dvd/
- http://cubicmetercrystal.com/decss/
- http://analyzethis.acmecity.com/triboro
/90/ - http://homepages.together.net/~ib nzahid/DeCSS.zip
- http://www.save2600.8m.com
- http://people.ne.mediaone.net/dantepsn/
- http://members.xoom.com/mxpxguy/dvd/
- http://decss.fall0ut.com
- http://vedaa.tripod.com/decss.html
- http://members.xoom.com/iox
- http://www.hackunlimited.com/dvd/
- http://hem.fyristorg.com/police/css.htm
- http://elknews.netpedia.net/dvd/
- http://www.idrive.com/decss/web
- http://www.clug.com/~vodak/dvd/
- http://www.nacs.net/~vodak/dvd/
- http://ny2600.iwarp.com
- http://www.wpi.edu/~nassar/dvd/
- http://www.glue.umd.edu/~castongj
- http://www.geocities.com/cold_dvd/
- http://www.projectgamma.com/deccs/
- http://members.xoom.com/mogreen/decss/
- http://thrash.webjump.com/decss.zip
- http://www.angelfire.com/de2/decss/dec ss.htm
- http://www.ithink.org/dvd/
- http://www.fortunecit y.com/skyscraper/motorola/1415/decss.htm
- http://www.linuxstart.com/~kv ance/projects/decss.html
- http://www.darkkingz.com/DeCSS.zip
- http://ebmedia.net/dvd/
- http://www.geocities.com/decss_forever/
- http://revolution.3-cities.com/~spack/dv d/
- http://www.geocities.com/Sili conValley/Software/8762/
- http://smokering.org
- http://www.sent.freeserve.co.uk/css -auth.tar.gz
- http://dlsf.org
- http://home.rmci.net/bert/dvd
- http://thrash.webjump.com/decss.zip
- http://linux.uci.agh.edu.pl/~outlaw/ decss.html
- http://debian.mps.krakow.pl/mirror/css/
- http://www.fission.org/~mangino
- http://212.187.12.197/decss/
- http://www.clarkson.edu/~andrixjr
/decss/DeCSS.zip - http://www.geocities.com/Capitol Hill/1583/dvd.html
- http://www.csd.net/~cgadd/dvd.htm
- http://www.members.home.net/normanlorrai n/
- http://home.swipnet.se/~w-18931/decss/
- http://home.soneraplaza.nl/qn/prive/v alhalla/
- http://www.robotslave.net
- http://www.angelfire.com/punk/freedom/
- http://www.corova.com/dvd/
- http://2600.dk/mirrors/css/
- http://dvdcrack.homepage.com
- http://www.copkiller.org
- http://www.worldcity.nl/~frank/dvd
- http://members.xoom.com/iamkeenan/master/
- http://www.adulation.net/css/
- http://homepage.interacces s.com/~mycroft/decss/DeCSS.zip
- http://underground.pl/dvd/
- http://members.xoom.com/nyc2600
- http://zerosoft.hypermart.net/warez/ DVDcrK.txt
- http://www.deforest.org/CSS
- http://www.xenoclast.demon.co.uk/main.ht ml
- http://www.ctol.net/~ross/css-auth.tar.gz
- http://www.xenoclast.demon.co.uk/main.ht ml
- http://www.ctol.net/~ross/css-auth.tar.gz
- http://www.geocities.com/SiliconV alley/File/3635/
- http://members.xoom.com/a1010_2000/
- http://decss.globalservice.hu/
- http://members.xoom.com//_XMC M/madasian2000/index.htm
- ftp://ftp.firehead.org/pub/
- http://www.koek.net/dvd
- http://www.mindspring.com/~stonethrower
- http://www.geocitie s.com/SiliconValley/Hardware/6188/index.html
- http://matt.frogspace.net/css/
- ftp://www.spamshack.net/pub/dcss/
- http://imezok.tripod.com/Untitled.txt
- http://warpedreality.members.easyspace. com/
- http://ts1.online.fr/dvd/
- http://homepages.go.com/homepage s/4/0/3/403_error/
- http://members.xoom.com/maud123/Home/C SS.htm
- http://xtreme2k.8k.com/DeCSS/
- http://hackingdvd.homestead.com/
- http://www.geocities.com/corporatemi ndcontrol/
- http://www.geocities.com/SoHo
/Studios/6752/index.html - http://darklord.darkthrone.com/user s/smith/dvd/
- http://www.image.dk/~mbp
- http://www.divisionbyzero.com/decss/
- http://decss.cx/
- http://www.humpin.org/decss/DeCSS.zip and http://www.humpin.org/decss/decss.tar.gz
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Re:Future of Corel Linux
Red Hat 6.1 documentation tells you that if you want to dual-boot an NT system, you have to boot from floppy!
I don't know what RedHat think, but you can perfectly easily use the NT boot loader. See the Linux+NT-Loader mini-HOWTO. (From your post, I think maybe you knew that, but others might not.) -
Learning curve of XSL
I would just like to say that learning curve of XSL is due to grasping the concepts of how to use it, rather than the language being crypticly designed.
You create templates to match the different kind of elements, and work your way down the tree of the document. This approach allows the stylesheet to work with documents which different numbers of elements, or slightly different structure. Some problems are solved with recursion.
You can do a simple approach where you have a fixed structure document, and insert values from the XML at certain points. This works for a lot of problems.
The main problem I had when learning XSL is study material. The specifications don't function as a tuturial. I recommend http://metalab.unc.edu/xml/b ooks/bible/updates/14.html. It is a version of the chapter on XSL from the XML Bible, updated for the W3C recommendation. I wish I had found it sooner (I have the book, by the way, very good).