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Save the raw, uncompressed video, and have virtualdub do the compression. Its way more powerful in terms of what it can do.

If you don't know how to use virtualdub, check out this guide. It's a detailed guide on how to convert a dvd to avi, and it has one of the best intros to using virtualdub (i use it to teach newbies how to use virtualdub). Just select the xvid codec instead of divx.

I don't know about DivX 5.11, but 5.1 had the stupid "feature" that it would shut down the program using it if it detected an active debugger. For more see this page, about halfway down (the Sept. 25th post).

You might want to check out the Virtualdub project.

The main developer was contacted by Microsoft's legal department with an official request to remove ASF-compatibility from Virtualdub.

Even though the Microsoft representatives requested this politely, they also made it quite clear that they would be taking action if he didn't comply to their "request".

I used to be an Avid editor but didn't have the budget or clients to afford one of those on my own. Based on some feedback from friends I decided to go with a a Matrox RT2500 and later upgraded to a Matrox RT.X100. The RTX100 is fantastic. It's basically a PCI card with a breakout box that has stereo audio in/out, and component and Y/C in/out. There's also two firewire ports on the back. It uses Adobe Premiere for its editor and installs a plugin which lets Premiere use the RTX100 for realtime effects. Basically anything you find in an online suite you'll find here as a realtime effect. Titling, wipes, ADOs, keying, colour correction, etc.

The RTX100 also comes with DVD burning software called ReelDVD. I've only used it twice so all I can tell you is that it works and has lots of features, none of which I've yet to really take advantage of.

I pretty much use that on a dedicated machine with Premiere 6.0, Photoshop, After Effects, and Sound Forge. I also use some open-source tools such as VirtualDub and DubMan. I haven't upgraded to Premiere Pro yet as the Matrox drivers are still in beta.

My only suggestion is that if you do get a RTX100, then buy one of the recommended systems to use it in. The Matrox forums are full of people who complain that the RXT100 doesn't work right or at all yet admit they don't have a compatible system. Especially watch out for via chipsets as the RTX100 won't work on those at all.

Of course, it is open source.

• CygWin. The Linux-like environment for Windows.
  Mozilla. Use this for mail, news, and browsing if you like.
  Firebird. for FAST browsing.
  WS FTP Light. A FREE, FTP client that works great.
  Filezilla. which is TRULY free and does sftp as well.
  PuTTY. a free SSH client for Windows.
  TTSSH. is a much less clunky ssh client than PuTTY.
  iXplorer. freeware secure FTP client
  VNC hello!? remote controll software.
  Tight VNClike the original, only FAST.
  GNU-EMacs for Windows. just trust me ;).
  Dev-C++a free C++ compiler for those who can't afford VS.
  NetHack. as someone here said, you MUST have NetHack installed on everything...
  Free-AV.free Anti-Virus software for Windows, (mandatory these days). or
  AVG Free edition. another free Anti-Virus software for Windows.
  Zonealarm. my favorite Personal Firewall,, really!. or
  Kerio. another firewall that some seem to like. or
  Sygate. yet another firewall. whatever floats your boat.
  Boingo. to see where the closest hotspot is, hehe.
  OpenOffice 1.1 the Microsoft Office KILLER :) {really!}
  Winamp 2.x for audio/video usage in Windows, stay away from the new one :).
  Mark's Adding Machine is much better than the Windows calculator.
  SpyBot Search & Destroy The best Ad-ware / Spyware removal tool we've found, "IE is unusable without".
  Ad-Aware another spy-ware app "alas poor Windoze."
  Trillian a favorite IM, since we're all chatters @ heart. or
  GAIM since trillian hogs resources, "bad piggy!".
  Gimp image creation/editing. Who needs Photoshop anyway?
  EnZip freeware Zip Utility, Stop nagging you WinZip!!
  Iview is a great little image viewer. or
  Irfanviewone of the best image viewer out there for Windows.
  Audacity is a great little sound editor.
  Virtual Dub. a great video editor.
  cDex gotta rip those cd's for the RIAA!
  MAME for games, period. Free. You can buy some ROMs, or *ahem* ask around. and finally
  XPantiSPY since XP is E-V-I-L.

And FINALLY, don't trust me! Trust the experts;

Go to the Pricelessware site maintained by the alt.comp.freeware Usenet group.
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VirtualDub is in my opinion, one of the finest pieces of free digital video editing software for the win32 platform.

To my knowledge, nothing on linux even comes close to it.

FileZilla is a nice little open source FTP client. Beats the crap outta WSFTP.

adding a wrapper to their divx (good way to slow it down!) - read this for an annoying story.

The Codec itself is always free, you only have to deal with adware or paying money when you want to use their encoder/player software.

I never download anything but the free codec and use VirtualDub (www.virtualdub.org) for my encoding.

Maybe when they get an editor put together they can call it STD Edit.

There's already a video editor called VD.

I'm not aware of any case where Microsoft or any other big company is trying to shutdown an Open Source project using patent laws.

Microsoft used patents to kill ASF support in VirtualDub.

But, you see, OSS for Windows is catching on! Some of the most popular programs on Sourceforge are win32. Everything that you need for spyware-free commercial-free RIAA-free music and video sharing is available there, on sf.net. Here's a sampling:

CDEX - a great MP3 ripper. Use with LAME for great, free rips.

eMule and DC++ - very popular P2P clients

BitTorrent - For large file sharing (movies, etc)

VirtualDub - for video format conversion (DiVX, VCD, etc)

Audacity - multi-track audio editor

I could go on and on. Look at this list and all the win32 apps there.

Ffdshow is a filter for most mpeg4 codecs. Works with divx 4,5, xvid and other mpeg4 implementations. If all you do is playback, no codec required. Also if use alpha xvid codecs and it doesn't playback properly with ffdshow, you know that your vid isn't mpeg4 compliant. Btw, I capture/encode shows all the time in windows and would like to do this in linux, but it seems really lacking. First off, avisynth is an indispensable tool for dealing with video. What first attracted me to it was the best ivtc plugin by Donald Graft. This processes telecined sources back to their original film frame rate which I use on toons/film sources.

But the versatility goes way beyond that. Here's an animated menu I made for batman tas for a vcd I was working on, which btw I authored with videopack 5 to include animated menus, galleries with audio and chapter selection (I love pimpin that :) ).

Also worth mentioning is Tmpgenc, probably the best mpeg 1 encoder, which is free. And not to shabby mpeg2 encoding. Also of course is virtualdub, which has come in handy on many occasions.

So where are the comparable linux equivalents? I couldn't find them. I'd love to see a write up on video encoding on linux, maybe I'll do one myself.

Most of the suggestions here require ~$500 DVD burners, expensive capture hardware or locating ancient uber-vhs decks which probably aren't that easy to find service for.

I suggest an mid range used PC ~500mhz, coupled with a cd-burner and a $90 CDN TV Tuner card. I use the ATI TV Wonder PCI, which can be found for much less on Ebay... either way nearly every Tuner card i've come across is supported by BTTV, although I've had small luck with Gatos which is designed for ATI All-In-Wonder cards.

So for software, we're looking at:
Linux (i use Debian with 2.4.18)
Compile BTTV and TV Tuner support in your kernel or modules if needed
Nuppelvideo - great *ZERO* frame dropping capture software which will result in huge, quality, 640x480, raw, stereo clips.
Transcode which will convert your Nuppelvideo files into any format you choose, I prefer DivX 5, which squashes your clips down to size suitable for 700mb discs. No DVD needed.

If you're still wondering why we're using a TV tuner card, it's that fact that almost all of them have S-Video/Composite/Stero inputs, so you can capture from most sources... incl. VHS, Beta, whatever.

The quality is great IMHO, for the small amount of $$ and the ease of transfer once you have a handle on the software. There are load of resources out there, much of the DVD ripping FAQs mirror all the audio/video sync/editing info you'll need to master this process.

To top it all off, if you use an avi file format, like DivX uses, you can use VirtualDub, free software that allows you to chop up clips, join them and fix repair/mix audio features on your clips. Just make sure you choose Direct Stream Copy so the clips are "spliced" (very quick) and not processed (hours zzzzzzzz).

All of this with free software, a few bucks, your old computer... does it get any better?

I've built a PC for use as a VCR which uses a ATI Radeon 8500DV video card. This card is nice for a varitey of reasons, but one of the main strenghts (for me) is that it comes with a connector supporting a variety of inputs and outputs.

By the way, you could basically do this with any decent/modern/1Ghz+ system & the aforementioned video card -Or one similar to it (The ATI 7500's a reputable alternative). But anyway...

In my case I've got a variety of peripherals tied into my 8500 via a Video Switcher (example: $50 ), and I run the output of this switcher through a signal enhancer (example: $50) before it's ran into the 8500's S-Video input.

One of the things connected via the switcher is a nice 4-head stereo VCR. By running the VCR through the enhancer, I can get quite good copies of video tapes.

Similarly, by running Showshifter (or another PVR / recording package -But Showshifter has some really nice DivX capabilities built in), I'm able to automatically encode the VCR's output as a stereo, high-quality DivX file in real time.

Or you could use any other video codec really. If it was something you wanted to edit, or preserve at high quality, you could record in a non-lossy codec, edit as needed in a video editor (Virtual Dub's a good place to start), and then encode down to a DivX (or again... Any codec. AVI, Mpeg, DivX, or even... Windows Media Format).

A side bonus of running the video switch through the enhancer is that a DVD player's output can be piped through and recorded as the enhancer removes the copy-protection. Not that I'd ever hook a DVD player up to my video switch to find this out (or to record a few rented DVD's for that matter), but one could do so if one wanted too.

Either way, the resulting video files can either be converted to VCD or SVCD (These both are burned onto regular CD's, with the former fitting slightly more, lower-resolution video on the CD than the latter. Both are also playable in the majority of modern DVD players), or DVD (self-explanatory) formats via programs such as Nero . I'm not an expert on the lifetime degredation of either CD or DVD media, but both are arguably going to be around and in good shape longer than some old VHS tapes.

Another option is to burn them as data files onto any of the aforementioned media, and set them up with an autorun software package so that your intended viewers can just pop it in a PC and go (another up and coming option here). Doing it this way offers the capability to save higher resolution video, but it also requires that your viewers view it either on a PC, or on a TV connected to a PC. There's some other pros and cons as well, but that's the basics from my point of view.

For archiving old VHS footage, I would reccomend recording the video via a method similar to what I've described above, and then outputting the footage as a regular old DVD. DVD's can support... what is it? 704x480 or something like that, and that's way higher than the 320x200 or whatever that standard TV broadcasts at (and this is likely the resolution you'd have on VHS tapes, I'm guessin'). This would ensure you wouldn't have to lose much if any quality, and the resulting footage will be viewable either on a consumer DVD player, or on a PC via a DVD drive, which are more or less standard these days.

Similarly, with 4x DVD burners hitting the "below $300" market, it's a good investment as you can back up your other data and videos when you're done archiving tapes. If that's not enough, you'll also be able to sample the

I managed to get Virtualdub to run but it did not work correctly. Hope they fix this. I hope they get some applications like Tmpgenc to work too.

Games are a strong incentive to use Windows. Personally, I use Win2k for recreational purposes and Linux for everything work-related. But give me some good games for Linux (I'm talking full ports here, not "but you can't use the editor" crap), like UT2003 and IL2 Sturmovik plus a program that has similar capabilities to VirtualDub for grabbing and editing video and Windows will get off the disk.

How does Film Gimp compare the other big open source video editor Virtual Dub?

Microsoft was successful in preventing an implementation of the ASF file format from being used by virtualdub. This seems to be a parallel issue, since both ASF and WMA are patented.

I have tried lots of demo video editors, all were crap.

Even GPL'd VirtualDub? No wait, that's not a demo, that's a full version as Free software.

VirtualDub - a video capture/processing utility. It lacks the editing power of a general-purpose editor such as Adobe Premiere, but is streamlined for fast linear operations over video. It has batch-processing capabilities for processing large numbers of files and can be extended with third-party video filters. VirtualDub is mainly geared toward processing AVI files, although it can read (not write) MPEG-1 and also handle sets of BMP images.

Miranda of course. It's an open-source IM client that currently supports ICQ, and MSN, a Yahoo plugin is also in the works. It's lightweight, incredibly customizable and no stupid ad anywhere.

You might want to include VirtualDub, in case they want to do some simple encoding or audio ripping from videos, or just to find out what damn codec a video file uses.

Lastly, there's Litestep for those who want a prettier and more customizable shell.

Virtualdub is excellent video editing software. Easy to get started with and *very* powerful. I use it to back up all of my DVDs. Give it a try.

Virtual Dub rules. If you do any work with video on Windows, it is essential.

Virtual Dub is much more stable and its interface is much more streamlined than most other free software. Plus it has probably the most robust AVI read/write code ever offered. Out-of-spec files that crash other video programs, Virtual Dub chews 'em up and spits 'em out.

virtualdub

Not if it's in DivX, and every full length is in DivX. The only way I've found so far is to copy the partially downloaded file to another folder and then open it with Virtual Dub. VDub will reconstruct the index and then you can preview the file

where can I find software like PhotoShop, but free/open source for Windows?

Where did you find Windows?

Anyway, GIMP (equivalent to Paint Shop Pro or to Photoshop Elements) works on Windows.

Where can I find Nero?

Bundled with your CD burner. CD burners are hardware, and hardware can't be duplicated easily with current technology.

Where can I find Adobe Premiere?

VirtualDub isn't as powerful, but it should fulfill basic video editing needs.

Instead of Microsoft Office, try this.

Tell that to Avery Lee who got his code stolen. The FSF was very helpful in forcing the individuals who stole it to comply with GNU terms.

Being that Xvid is a larger project than Virtual Dub, I would be highly surprised to not see the FSF step in at some point.

Hmmm, I had problems capturing with the All-in-Wonder on Windows 2000 until I did some registry hacking. Then it worked fine.

On Windows XP, however, it worked right away. Perhaps you could try XP? What capture software are you running? I recommend VirtualDub.

>Thus, they probably have another technique which cleans up the film grain by comparing it to subsequent and/or prior frames.

Yes, and you can try it yourself. Its VERY much worth the effort, even if it takes a lot longer to postprocess your video.

The more random the noise, the better. Its excellent for TV shows on VHS or from broadcast TV (or so I've found).

Oh, and if you like to make things disappear without noticing it (great for those HUGE ads in the corner of a TV show) try this, or this.

[Somebody with some experience please port these to Linux! You would be so well thanked! This would be really nice too! No, I can't do it myself, I'm really not that good.]

Does this mean firewire support will finally be coming to Virtual Dub? I think vdub is a kick ass program but now that the guy I do capture for has a Sony PCR-DC1 I gotta use premier,
which is sort of fat and bloated (sorry adobe)

My roommates and I have been PC PVR'ing for about a year. It quite hard to get it setup even for a software guru, but once you do its pretty cool.

One tip I've learned is to get good software. ATI's in the box PVR software is in currently pretty bad shape. It crashs all the time, and generally just sucks.

The best PVR software I've found so far is iuVCR: It's nice because it lets you choose the codecs and it uses the win2k scheduler so it works. It also is very stable.

If you combine that with PICVideos MJPEG codec at setting Q19 then it looks pretty good at 2GB/hr.

And then if you want it small then use VirtualDub to post-process recompress it with DivXNetworks's Divx v5.02 at 600bps to get it down to 0.35GB/hr.

If you like to automate it you can use the scheduler to run a batch file VirtualDub and pass in cmd line args to make it automatically recompress all AVI files from one dir and output them to another. Just run vdub and setup the settings the way you want, and "Save Processing Settings" to a file called settings.vcf (say) then run this at night:

start /wait virutaldub /ssettings.vcf /b"d:\in\","d:\out\" /x /r
move d:\in\*.avi d:\in-done

Good luck

IIRC, the author of VirtualDub figured out the structure of ASF, added support to his program (in version 1.2 or so) and was asked by Microsoft to remove it, which he did (so he wouldn't get any legal problems). And he wasn't even trying to access the compressed audio / video data itself directly, because he did that comfortably via the API, just the wrapper file format around it.

As far as I can see, the DMCA is unlikely to apply here since plain (non-DRM'd) ASF streams do not contain any form of copy protection.

If I remember correctly, though, Microsoft has a patent on the ASF format scheme itself. The granting of this patent in the first place was ridiculous - (thought sadly commonplace these days) - ASF is a very simple format for multiplexing video/audio/whatever over a single stream. There's nothing innovative about it.

Of course plenty of patents are issued these days for very unimaginative, uninnovative things - what makes MS's patent so unusual is that it's tantamount to patenting a file format - something that could effectively prevent otherwise legal reverse-engineering.

The author of Virtual Dub was forced to remove ASF compatibility after pressure from Microsoft regarding the patent.

Microsoft - boldly leading us back into the dark ages of incompatibility!

Well, from my experience, the problem isn't with playing MS's codecs - it's authoring with them. Free tools like VirtualDub and even commercial tools like Premiere prevent you from editing an ASF because MS doesn't want you to (VirtualDub had that feature but removed it because of legal pressure from MS).

This Slashdot thread is yet another example of how Mac-centric the "new" Slashdot has become.

My roommate bought a Windows-based USB Mpeg-1 TV tuner device back in 1999 for about $50 retail.

I recently purchased a Pinnacle PCI-based capture card for about $20 and use free software to do all of my recording.

So I completely fail to see why a similar device for Apple, arriving more than 3 years late, is this newsworthy! There is another forum much more suited to such banal news.

Oh yeah, and along with Nero I would recommend people find a copy of VirtualDub. Fantastic program, PC only I think, but can convert between a LOT of different video formats quite well. Get the latest version here, but it also may be worth finding an old version around somewhere, 1.3 or something, because it can also convert ASF files to things like AVI/MPEG! Unfortunetly Microsoft strongarmed him to take out the feature, and I don't know if he has been able to put it back yet. Oh, and something many people here will appreciate, it is now GPLed!

VirtualDub. Where have you been living? The "real world"? Yeesh.

VCD on the other hand doesn't work quite as well for me, mainly due to the constant bitrate (CBR) used in MPEG1 (SVCD uses variable bitrate (VBR) MPEG2). The CBR tends to make things extremely blocky/washed out with the poorly taped home videos (you know, we're not all human steadicams, jerky videos are a staple of modern living IMHO)...

About making an (S)VCD for free, it can be done. You use VirtualDub for video capture duties, TMPGEnc for MPEG1/MPEG2 encoding (as I think I said earlier, it also handles the sound duties, and has built-in templates for VCD, SVCD and DVD (in PAL and NTSC formats)) and GNU VCDImager for creating the BIN/CUE files to burn (advanced features include making semi-reasonable chapters and I think SVCD even supports using menus and stills). Two of the three tools suggested are even open-source/GPL'd (TMPGEnc is, unfortunately, closed-source, and the author(s) imply in some of the dialogues that they intend to charge $$$ for it in the future (they've been saying this for the past year, and they still do releases about once a month)). That leaves a video editting package (in the event you want to edit your videos or add titles, etc) and the actual CD burner hardware (which, with the prices of 16x/24x CD-RW drives hovering in the $100-170 range, is not an object generally). For video editting, the only viable option I've come across is Adobe Premiere.. if anyone has any suggestions on free/cheap video editting tools for Win32, I'm curious what other peoples experiences are. =) For more info on (S)VCD's, including compatibility with stand alone home DVD players, as well as tools and FAQ's on creation, I suggest the following--

VCDHelp.com

Doom9.org

There's other good sites, but those should be enough to get people going that are curious.

If your capture device is Video for Windows compatible, then VirtualDub can capture video with it.

Yeah, that's gonna work real good with M$'s new Digital Violations Operating System. While it's cool of them to make the effort, I doubt the rest of us will be able to make use of windows API calls when the time comes, but will just use everyone else's properly functioning X or SVGA routines. It's sad to see effort wasted making a product like Windows more palitable. Why do people put their effort into this stuff? It will only be used to oppres you later.

Am I bitter? Hell yes I am. Your computer is being made into a freaking TV that serves mostly to suck comercial crap. The internet is being used as the new pipe to shove yet more crap on us as opposed to the airwaves that have been dominated by three or four giant publishers for the last fourty years: They at least came at no cost but advert mark up at the store. Does'nt anyone else see the convergence of all this as the absolute destruction of original content from around the world? Do you imagine that this will be used to distribute anything but big media junk? The very tools of creation will be removed before long. Those who wish to create will be forced to spend loads of money for Apples that purposfully have file types that do not transfer to these new boxes. How well do you think apt-get is going to work with all of this crap flying around? Free Softwar in general will be choked by the telcos as they close in their grab on the net. You don't imagine it will be long before the new infrastructure has packet prioritization bassed on origin, not yours? Isn't forced DHCP a warning that none but the mighty shall publish? Voice over IP has been possible for years, but you still pay by the minute to talk to your friends, in fact the US is now paying more than ever for telco "services". I have seen the future and it is the past.

To all you warez dudes out there, You are a problem. While you think you are sticking it to the man with your cracked software, MP3s and comercialless Simpson episodes, you are really helping them. You are just dumping more comercial junk on the world and preventing people from looking elsewhere, even within, for solutions to their software and entertainment desires. Go out and make something. Fight like hell. Think, create, propagate your ideas.

I don't even watch TV, it clouds the mind. There are so many other sources of information and inspiration. Read, do things, live damn it, then write, sing and make films about it. You don't think real stories come from big media giant? No, they get ripped off, diluted and sold back to you. As you consume the dilution, so go your own thoughts and dreams.

Thank you, and good night. I am insane.

At least that's what I've found to be true. If I can get all the software I want in freeware versions, why pay for a shareware version? Sometimes it takes some searching to find a great freeware product, but it is always more satisfying to me to find something free and usefull rather than simply shelling out for the ubiquitous version that does the same thing (although sometimes is actually inferior). When I install a new Windows OS for someone, I always download Filzip for them, rather than Winzip with its anoying nag screen. I also try to teach people about the Gimp and they are always amazed that they can have a Photoshop equivalent for free.
Also, the great HTML-Kit, VirtualDub, Blender, and many others are great, professional apps that happen to be free.
You can even run a portal like Slashdot on freeware (using Slash or MaxWebPortal).

Microsoft did use its patents on the Active Streaming Format to block an open-source implementation. VirtualDub once supported editing ASF files but the author was forced to remove it. Granted this wasn't a patent Microsoft purchased, and in many cases Microsoft is using things other than patents to block rivals.

Virtual Dub

DivX 4.0 isn't really related to 3.11a. It's a new codec that has been ramped up partly from scratch and partly from the MuMoSys reference code. ...

Also, from personal experience, at 500 kbps, I get good quality Divx4 video. I'd say it's better than VHS at that rate, except for some problems with very low contrast settings.

Ask Avery of VirtualDub fame whether or not this has been sucessfully enforced:

Yes, folks, it's true. The Vidomi encoder has been released as free software under the GPL, thus ending the conflict -- despite my reminders that the conflict could have been ended by dropping the GPL linkage, the makers doggedly insisted on becoming part of the GPL community! The FSF has verified the current implementation GPL compliant as well; it's not the same as holy penguin pee, but it's more than good enough.

Ask Avery of VirtualDub fame whether or not this has been sucessfully enforced:

Yes, folks, it's true. The Vidomi encoder has been released as free software under the GPL, thus ending the conflict -- despite my reminders that the conflict could have been ended by dropping the GPL linkage, the makers doggedly insisted on becoming part of the GPL community! The FSF has verified the current implementation GPL compliant as well; it's not the same as holy penguin pee, but it's more than good enough.

Yeah, but let's face it, Quicktime is for the most part dead.

If Apple had been serious about it, there *would* have been at least precompiled Linux binaries for it; my only guess is that Microsoft's financial interest in Apple may have helped to prevent that from happening.

Of course, Windows Media Player's ASF support for Linux would be great, but I see no mention of it in the press release. Given that Microsoft went after Virtual Dub for its support of ASF files (read the news archive):

[sigh]

Please join with me in wishing cancer on Mr. Gates.

The point of the GPL is to ensure that open-source programs remain open-source and freely modifiable.

Wrong. The point of the GPL is that users of software have complete and total freedom with the software they've been given not the next version or the one after but the version that was distributed to them.

I don't see why using it as a lever to get a company to release proprietary source code they never intended to open would do any good.

If the proprietary code is made up of seven different Free Software components then the users of the software are supposed to get the source for the software.

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The original author of VirutuaDub put up a page about Vidomi where he mentioned that SloMedia infringed seven projects (VirtualDub, FlaskMPEG, DVD2AVI, MPEG2DEC, AC3DEC, XingMP3, smart deinterlacer). Does the newly GPLed source cover all the infringing projects or just VirtuaDub.

Either way the VirtuaDub author seems just as pissed as most of the Slashdotter here about how they nver released the original source.

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I don't get it. Why do you post this crap when real GPL violations by shady companies are currently going on? How many times must the story of Vidomi ripping Avery Lee's GPLed code to VirtualDub be submitted before the Slashdot editors stop ignoring it?