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Re:end the nonsense
I was shocked by this claim, but found this article on the problem among Orhodox Jews in the Brooklyn.
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Re:Actually, they probably *ARE* paying taxes...
Don't know why the parent is modded Funny, it's just correct. And it's not even loopholes, they are using the tax system exactly as it was intended to work. There's no Cayman islands or Irish double shit here.
I don't know nearly enough about the mess that is the US tax system to be able to investigate and explain it myself but it's basically down to R&D and equipment deductions and stock-based compensation. So they are spending in areas the government encourages them to spend and making the corresponding deductions. This article explains everything pretty well: https://www.vox.com/2019/2/20/...
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Re:Gonna Learn the Hard Way
You may be on to something, he's apparently completely forgotten about Wikileaks:
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This is just grandstanding by the GOP
nothing more. Nothing less.
Let's address the elephant in the room here right now. The overwhelming majority of bans have been right wing. The reason is, to be blunt, the right wing has let the white supremacists into their fold. Those people have always favored violence, and the major platforms are banning them for inciting violence multiple times. You ask your followers to rid you of some meddlesome priest enough times you get banned.
What's scary is that the right is letting these violent folk run rampant because so long as they do they'll organize and vote for them. We saw this in full force when the President of the United States called them "good people" instead of condemning them. We see it in policy too. Trump has cut back on the FBI's enforcement of domestic terrorism, which is overwhelmingly from white nationalists. This is a fact you can confirm with 30 seconds on google.
The GOP has sold their souls for cheap and easy votes from a small block of highly motivated voters. It was worth it, because elections are so close that an extra .5% can swing them. If the media was doing their damn job it wouldn't work. The GOP have ended when Trump called literal Nazis "Good People". But without a functioning media it's hard for the American people to process the scale and gravity of what all this means.
Mark my words, this shit will get out of hand. It will get out of hand and we'll all be lucky to live through it. Hitler didn't campaign on gassing jews. It started out nice and easy with a heavy dose of populist nationalism. Trump isn't Hitler, he's just an opportunist. But he's paved the way for the next Hitler if we don't turn back fast
Oh, and as for censorship, the left gets it more and it gets it where it counts. This is to be expected. The right literally own everything in this country, including Facebook. Mark Zuckerberg is not a liberal, he's a billionaire. Right now too many violent white supremacists is bad for business. But you're being naive if you think he won't change his tune if the money's right. IBM sold computers to the Nazis. Zuck'll do the same if the money shifts. -
Re:Yes, conservatives suppress free speech
Really? Who is trying to deplatform those they don't agree with? It isn't the right.
Yes it is.
"The Hosty case is only part of the growing conservative attack on freedom of speech on campus."
Data shows a surprising campus free speech problem: left-wingers being fired for their opinions
Oh please.
A. Man bites dog. You know perfectly well that the vast tide is in the other direction.
B. Seriously, Catholic universities? What would you expect? I don't think anybody would object to explicitly Leftist Universities requiring leftism from their faculty.
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Yes, conservatives suppress free speech
Really? Who is trying to deplatform those they don't agree with? It isn't the right.
Yes it is.
"The Hosty case is only part of the growing conservative attack on freedom of speech on campus."
Data shows a surprising campus free speech problem: left-wingers being fired for their opinions
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Re:Prove that youtube videos cause violence?
I get the sentiment behind the remark, but the truth is that it takes surprisingly little to get a good (or perhaps just regular) person to do evil. Milgram showed that all you needed was someone in authority telling you that it was okay, and although it wasn't a methodologically sound study, the Stanford prison experiment suggests that people might be willing to assume that mantel of authority all by themselves and act out the evil they believe is expected of them.
You lost me as soon as you cited Stanford as your excuse seeing as much of it has been denounced as fraudulent.
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Amazon increased prices, and then decreased them?
Under Amazon, Whole Foods prices were expected to decrease. Instead, they're rising. (Mar 1, 2019)
So, Amazon increased prices, and then decreased them, but reported only the decrease? -
Re:FUD stats...
The issue here is that the demand for electricity increased by a large percentage in the US, China and India.
That's not true.
US Electrical consumption has actually been flat for over a decade: https://www.vox.com/energy-and...
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Re: Of COURSE Trump wants to overturn it...
IRS targeting people
Recess appointmentsAre a couple that come to mind and can't be argued against.
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Re:Trump's campaign manager and personal lawyer...
Actually, Manafort and Cohen both been convicted of cheating on their taxes in cases unconnected to Trump and his campaign.
Cohen was also convicted of violating campaign finance laws. (Hush payments to Stormy Daniels.) Cohen says he did this "for the benefit of, at the direction of, and in coordination with Individual Number 1. And for the record, Individual Number 1 is President Donald J. Trump."
The Mueller report is just the end of the beginning. Grab your popcorn, folks.
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Re:This guy is a moronYes, lets see how that worked out:
Hillary was investigated for more than 2 years. Indictements/plea deals/convictions = 0
Interestingly enough, all of the clamor about Hillary died off pretty much immediately when Trump was elected (other than when Trump needs to throw a bone to his most rabid and gullible base), reinforcing to anyone with at least one active brain cell alive, that the entire Hillary investigation was about nothing other than damaging her ability to be elected... which was admitted to by Kevin McCarthy https://www.vox.com/2015/9/30/...What you’re going to see is a conservative speaker, that takes a conservative Congress, that puts a strategy to fight and win. And let me give you one example. Everybody thought Hillary Clinton was unbeatable, right?
But we put together a Benghazi special committee. A select committee. What are her numbers today? Her numbers are dropping. Why? Because she’s untrustable. But no one would have known that any of that had happened had we not fought to make that happen.Muelller's investigation has been going on less than 2 years.
Indictments =
13 Russian nationals, 3 Russian companies
12 Russian GRU officers
Konstantin Kilimnik
Roger Stone
Plea Deals/Convicted =
George Papadopoulos
Paul Manafort
Rick Gates
Michael Flynn
Richard Pinedo
Alex van der Zwaan
Michael Cohen
Sam Patten
Anyone who thinks Mueller is on a witch hunt is a fucking idiot. -
Re:This guy is a moron
https://www.vox.com/policy-and...
And there's been a fuck all shit ton of witches found so far. When did "republican" become synonymous with "criminal?" -
What would make you type those words?
A few moments on google should be enough to depose yourself of that idea, this
Beto's been overwhelmingly right win in his votes. He's a "New" Democrat, aka a Clinton Democrat. Just like Biden he "reaches across the isle", which is to say he votes with the GOP 80% of the time.
If that's what you want find. But please do go to the polls thinking your voting for a lefty or even a centrist. Beto is very much right wing, and it's only the crazy shifts in the Overton window that make him appear to be anything else. If you want a left wing candidate your choices are Bernie or Warren. -
Re:Not a Republican
If he was a Republican, you'd be hearing:
- He's the son of a judge
- Went to boarding school
- Dodged burglary and DUI charges
- He married into a Billionaire familyBut he's a Democrat, so nothing matters. Different standards. It's so important that he be judged by different standards the media won't even give you the information you need to make any other judgement.
Sure there's a double standard.
Warren tried to explain away her identification as Native American as just wanting to meet people with native ancestors, then the Washington Post investigated and blew that explanation away.
Fox News found out that Trump had an affair with a porn star and paid to cover it up, and then they covered it up as well.
Have left leaning media outlets gone a bit easy on O'Rourke so far? Probably.
But you really don't want to start complaining about a double standard.
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Re:SJW DOT
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Re:Let's see what's racist this week!
Last week it was Knitting.
I saw that story and your post and wasn't sure if you knew about it because your timing was perfect. -
Re:And they only use them to block us out
These days, murdering the innocent is mundane police business, and so is hiding the fact.
These days?
You are obviously a person with bad memory or in the flower of your youth.
Today's police violence/misconduct pales in comparison to the sheer majesty of brazen nefarious activities found in the 60s, 70s, and 80s.
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Re:And they only use them to block us out
Wow, what an amazing conspiracy theory you have there
How'd you get modded up?
People with a clue must have got modpoints somehow.
I used to listen to police scanners all the time and they're boring as hell. A lot of mundane business.
These days, murdering the innocent is mundane police business, and so is hiding the fact.
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Re:Fuck coal
You just made that that up she did not say that. She said "We're gonna put a lot of coal miners and coal companies outta business". I'll translate that for you "Fuck coal miners.". What a lying prick you are.
Here's the full context, from this article.
Instead of dividing people the way Donald Trump does, let’s reunite around politics that will bring jobs and opportunities to all these under-served poor communities. So, for example, I’m the only candidate who has a policy about how to bring economic opportunity using clean renewable energy as the key into coal country. Because we’re going to put a lot of coal miners and coal companies out of business, right, Tim [Ryan (D-OH)]?
And we’re going to make it clear that we don’t want to forget those people. Those people labored in those mines for generations, losing their health, often losing their lives to turn on our lights and power our factories. Now we’ve got to move away from coal and all the other fossil fuels, but I don’t want to move away from the people who did the best they could to produce energy that we relied on.
Per the article, Clinton regretted the way she said the above. (From her book What Happened: “The point I had wanted to make was the exact opposite of how it came out.
... [I] felt absolutely sick about the whole thing.” But the full context shows she was not trying to "fuck" coal miners. Quite the opposite. -
Re:PSA for Americans and others
Majority of accusations against Huawei or China are falsified, exaggerated, outdated, or hypocritical.
Whether China has done that or not, they has not launched a major PR campaign over the issue against US in the many years PRISM, which revealed direct attacks against Chinese network, has been exposed. The US government and policticians, on the other hand, keep using the same things from IP theft to industry espionage that the US had committed to attack China and never mention its own dirty history (so that they can use the issues to rally the support of populism and nationalism.) That's called hypocrisy.
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Re:No shit
Really? Is that why there an uproar about the expanding requirement for voter ID in the UK? And what about our neighbors - Canada and Mexico?
Not to mention even VOX (not really a right-wing site) admits that voter ID laws do not suppress turnout. Yes, CONVICTIONS for voter fraud are few, but there is a growing list of actual voter fraud convictions. If the vote is so sacrosanct and important, why let ANYONE be disenfranchised by an illegal vote?
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Activision had record profits
Battlefield V sold 7.3 million copies. Far Cry 5 was the best selling game in the franchise.
These companies are doing insanely great. But it's never enough. If you grew 600% last year you better grow 700% this year.
It's a symptom of a larger structural problems with our economy. Like Payless Shoes and Toys R US. It's why we're about to go into a (completely avoidable) recession... -
Re:Bad choice for Amazon.
You dream a pretty dream, but you should probably wake up and smell the swamp. The plutocracy is only growing more entrenched over time with the wealthiest members of society getting exactly what they want and everyone else getting crumbs. I just hope the rich wake up before their heads are on pikes.
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Re:Reminds me of Toll Roads
You must have never lived or been to SoCal and LA. Plenty of freeways, all of them huge, and all crowded. You can build and expand all you want and the traffic will fill it up to capacity.
It doesn't have to be SoCal; induced demand works anywhere -- you add more road capacity, you will get more drivers to fill it. An expansion to the I-405 in Los Angeles, for example, resulted in traffic moving slightly slower than before the expansion.
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Re:More partisan shilling
You treasonous 0-news-source faggots complain about "the media" and "the librul sciences" and "academia" and "judges" and "laws"... now you complain about slashdot submissions. Ask around, see if anyone cares.
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Mixed bag
Feels like it's an article to mix a previous event
https://www.vox.com/science-an...With how "White people" are more prone to fake news
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Re: Why quit?
While I generally agree with what you are saying I think it is even more complicated. When situations become complex (war, economics, life) you will find experts disagreeing on fundamental courses of action.
Sure, but if qualified people can end up choosing A, B, or C that doesn't mean you should start choosing at random.
Not only are you less likely to choose the right among A, B, and C. But once people learn you're evaluating on the wrong criteria they're going to give you variants of A, B, and C that are much crappier that they should be.
So my point is that it is hard to find the right expert for a given situation.
But Trump isn't even getting the situations themselves right. Look at NK, there are two big directions pushed by the experts. 1) Be harsh and threatening enough that they have too cooperate, and 2) engage diplomatically and try to reduce the threat and liberalize the regime that way.
Trump started with #1 and almost started a Nuclear war by inflaming tensions with personal insults. Then he switched to #2, but he's doing it on the theory that NK is giving up its Nuclear weapons, which absolutely no expert thinks that's going to happen.
So what will happen? Either Trump will keep ignoring the situation, and give NK a deal where they're obviously cheating. Or the deal will fall apart and we'll be back to #1.
Despite what you and a large part of the media say, many people that have worked with Trump say he is a good listener and asks good questions and he expects you to be prepared and know your stuff.
Where is the evidence of this? Maybe it was true decades ago, and I'm sure there's a few current quotes since it's very obvious that he likes to be praised. But I haven't seen a single clip or even quotation that shows sharp attentive questioning.
So I am not convinced that Trump is clueless, but I think that is largely what the left media and Hollywood have conditioned us to believe.
So how do you explain my two original examples? Syria and the shutdown. Any informed person knew how they were going to end.
How do you explain him being off by orders of magnitude on the cost of health care insurance.
Or constantly confusing tariffs and interest rates.
How many times has he completely misunderstood some piece of legislation being debated?
He's really not in the loop.
With ISIS, Trump asked his chosen expert General Mathis to come up with a plan within 30 days to defeat ISIS. While the strategy did not change drastically, things did change.
ISIS was already collapsing when Trump took office.
The military was given the freedom to take action without having to go through layers of decision makers.
Perhaps he did, now here's a question. If he did remove those layers, why were they there in the first place?
If you don't have a deep understanding of what they were actually doing you can't actually be certain removing them was a good thing.
There's a lot of things that sound like really good ideas but never actually get done. And one of the main reasons that happens is that doing them actually turns out to be a really bad idea.
This is one area where Trump's instinct to judge a situation based on a superficial understanding tends to have very bad consequences.
They surrounded the enemy strongholds and destroyed them rather
I have not tried to investigate this issue very much, but I am not convinced. There are many experienced experts (border patrol) who say the wall helps (though it
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Re:But wait, there's more...
Well, here. There are plenty more from plenty of various sources. https://www.cnbc.com/2018/11/2...
https://www.recode.net/2019/1/...
https://www.cbc.ca/news/busine...
https://www.newsweek.com/amazo...
https://www.kare11.com/article...
https://www.vox.com/2018/7/16/...
https://www.theguardian.com/te...
https://www.washingtonpost.com...
https://www.businessinsider.co...
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Re: hmmm....
You're mentally ill. Do you realize that? No, of course you don't, otherwise you'd be seeking help instead of insanely comparing support for the president with the KKK.
Your mental illness has allowed you to be brainwashed by DNC bullshit. They need little minions to help carry out their plans of overthrow, and you are allowing them to use you as one of their pawns. Everything they've fed you about Trump is propaganda, and you're parroting it just as they've told you to. In the meantime, you fail to see the real enemy.
All part of the plan.
Dude, members of the KKK literally endorsed Donald Trump. https://www.vox.com/2017/8/12/...
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Re:So get this...
Informants aren't spies. Deal with it.
It doesn't matter who paid for the Steele dossier, not even the fact that the initial work was paid for by a conservative news site, because the Steele dossier isn't illegal evidence, isn't being used as direct evidence of criminality, and the law doesn't care who paid for it.
Keep telling yourself there's no evidence of collusion. Where there's thick, sun-blotting smoke, there's...nothing? Is that how the old saying goes?
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No indictments of the Trump Campaign
https://www.vox.com/policy-and...
Another reason to NEVER talk to the FBI without a lawyer.
George Papadopoulos Pled guilty to making false statements to the FBI
Paul Manafort - indicted on a total of 25 different counts related mainly to his past work for Ukrainian politicians and his finances.
Rick Gates - pled guilty to just one false statements charge and one conspiracy charge.
Michael Flynn - pled guilty to making false statements to the FBI.
Richard Pinedo: pled guilty to an identity theft charge in connection with the Russian indictments
Alex van der Zwaan: pled guilty to making false statements to the FBI
Michael Cohen: pled guilty to 8 counts — tax and bank charges, related to his finances and taxi business, and campaign finance violations
Roger Stone: accused Stone of lying to the House Intelligence Committee
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Re:He can't even get the money for his stupid wall
Well he could try the same tactic: Explicitly lay out a plan on how the Martians will pay for it, and then act like he never did so and shut down the government until taxpayers pay for it (or more likely, until he gets bored, or people get so tired of his BS that they're ready for a political impeachment).
No, not the Martians... the (illegal) aliens will pay for it!
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Re:Still Cheating
It's already operating with imperfect knowledge. From Vox:
During the 10 matches, the AI had one big advantage that a human player doesn’t have: It was able to see all of the parts of the map where it had visibility, while a human player has to manipulate the camera.
Emphasis mine. Yes, it's an advantage, but it's not cheating. Humans can use the minimap to see what's going on as well.
The problem with these matches and Starcraft in general, is that the it's able to win just with good micro. So getting really good at Starcraft doesn't get us closer to actual AI.
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Re:He can't even get the money for his stupid wall
Well he could try the same tactic: Explicitly lay out a plan on how the Martians will pay for it, and then act like he never did so and shut down the government until taxpayers pay for it (or more likely, until he gets bored, or people get so tired of his BS that they're ready for a political impeachment).
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Re:Without a rise in crime? :)
Just 'cause you read it doesn't mean it's true. Drug offenders are only a small portion of the inmate population.
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Re:War on Drugs
The first google hit. And it's even from a far leftist propaganda site. You need to change your talking points.
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Re:A Communist constitution
Trump is totalitarian.
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Enemy of the People
That's how we do it in the Soviet USSA.
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Re:Bigger fish
...And at the same moment, this news story comes out:
https://www.vox.com/2019/1/16/...
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Re:Well.. So?
What I find interesting is that it seems the worst impacts of the shutdown are being felt by demographics that tend to vote Republican. That makes the political fallout for this shutdown potentially disastrous for Republicans.
Maybe they'll forget come 2020. But we'll see. The Republican party's behavior has been pretty uniformly reprehensible, and there's a chance that these events will cause a few Republican voters to open their eyes and see the party for what it is: a party for the rich, by the rich, who only panders to non-rich voters by promising to harm "those people". When they find that they're often in the crosshairs, maybe they'll start expanding their news sources beyond the conservative bubble and actually learn something.
Not many, of course. It's rare for people to change their minds like this. But it does happen. And it could be the beginning of the end for the Republican party (aside: if the Republican party ends, it will be replaced by another party: our system is only stable with two parties in power; hopefully that other party will be less terrible so that we can actually have a reasonable national political discussion for once).
I chance that it will not be disastrous. We are talking about a core that's been willing to commit socioeconomic seppuku for years as long as someone blows wind through the right whistle.
This problem is sociological and cultural in nature, and it is not one without precedent. Cultures have been known to walk off the proverbial cliff, engaging in self-destructive and self-defeating customs and practices in the name of identity.
It's high time we need to recognize their voting patterns as another manifestation of said types of cultures. Shades of J.D. Vance's "Hillbilly Effigy."
Even if perchance this causes a Republican blow-back in 2020, for as long as these social dynamics persists with these voters, they will continue with these patterns, with these exaggerated outlooks on what America is supposed to be, and animosity towards anything and anyone that doesn't fit the mold.
Cruelty is the point. It's not a side-effect, not a tool. It is the point.
Case in point , read this story of a voter saying "Trump is not hurting the people he's supposed to be hurting". It is quite revealing of the type of shi-that-never-dies we are dealing with. https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/1/8/18173678/trump-shutdown-voter-florida
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Re: Well.. So?
didn't Trump agree to sign the funding, until Fox news etc. said that would be bad?
https://www.vox.com/policy-and...
Just as one link among a great many that seem to confirm my understanding...
Government is about governing, not 'winning' or 'supporting your base'.
A president is, I believe, supposed to work for the benefit of the ENTIRE country, not just their voters.
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Re:Funny...
https://www.vox.com/2018/5/30/...
First result from a google of "fox news ignoring stories".
A lot of those topics in the "Fox News covers less" really aren't terribly important news stories. Stormy Daniel? Who cares. He fucked and paid her not to tell anyone, not news, happens every day.
News is stuff that actually matters, stuff that will effect you or something you care about. Granted Fox News clearly has a conservative bias, but it honestly seems that it's not fox covering those stories less, it's other outlets covering them too much, same story after same story of something that doesn't matter.
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Re:Funny...
https://www.vox.com/2018/5/30/...
First result from a google of "fox news ignoring stories".
Hmm. You said "ignores" and the Vox article headline says "ignores", but their data (which they do not describe any methodology for obtaining, more's the pity) says "covers less".
I would agree that Fox's coverage of things they don't like tends to be less than coverage of things they do like... and that's a really important form of bias, and it's real. But your original statement was that "Fox is just trying to bullshit you", as in tell lies. That's false, as far as I can see. They don't generally provide incorrect facts, and they don't generally ignore stories, though they allocate the amount of coverage differently (and favorably to their viewpoint).
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Re:Funny...
https://www.vox.com/2018/5/30/...
First result from a google of "fox news ignoring stories".
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Zack Beauchamp, enough said...
From the man who brought you such favorites as:
"Free trade is one of the best tools we have for fighting extreme poverty" https://www.vox.com/2016/3/1/1...
"Clinton passed welfare reform to end black Americans’ alleged “dependence” on the welfare state" https://www.vox.com/policy-and...
Who loves identity politics more... -
Zack Beauchamp, enough said...
From the man who brought you such favorites as:
"Free trade is one of the best tools we have for fighting extreme poverty" https://www.vox.com/2016/3/1/1...
"Clinton passed welfare reform to end black Americans’ alleged “dependence” on the welfare state" https://www.vox.com/policy-and...
Who loves identity politics more... -
Re: Thou Shalt not Expose...
The campus "free speech/political correctness run amok" crisis is entirely fake.
That's right, one of the pillars of contemporary right-wing outrage is a completely fabricated issue, lacking even a kernel of truth and actually running counter to reality. Spread the word.
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Re:AmiMojo
That quote explains why he is being punished now. His attack was politically motivated, made in bad faith.
It's well known that this problem affects all subjects, with low quality journals that publish literally anything they get sent without even reading the papers first. Yet he chose to focus on just one or two subjects that he has a personal dislike of, and wilfully ignores all the others with exactly the same problem to make his ridiculous claims.
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Re:Proves nothing
A few years back the "International Journal of Advanced Computer Technology" published a paper that was nothing but "get me off your fucking mailing list" repeated over and over again.
https://www.vox.com/2014/11/21...
The barrier to entry to these journals is apparently "can email a Word document".