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Beto O'Rourke's Secret Membership in America's Oldest Hacking Group (reuters.com)
One thing you might not know about Beto O'Rourke, the former Texas congressman who just entered the race for president is that while a teenager, O'Rourke acknowledged in an exclusive interview to Reuters, he belonged to the oldest group of computer hackers in U.S. history. From the report: The hugely influential Cult of the Dead Cow, jokingly named after an abandoned Texas slaughterhouse, is notorious for releasing tools that allowed ordinary people to hack computers running Microsoft's Windows. It's also known for inventing the word "hacktivism" to describe human-rights-driven security work.
Members of the group have protected O'Rourke's secret for decades, reluctant to compromise his political viability. Now, in a series of interviews, CDC members have acknowledged O'Rourke as one of their own. Slashdot interviewed members of the Cult of the Cow in 1999 -- which gave bizarre answers.
Members of the group have protected O'Rourke's secret for decades, reluctant to compromise his political viability. Now, in a series of interviews, CDC members have acknowledged O'Rourke as one of their own. Slashdot interviewed members of the Cult of the Cow in 1999 -- which gave bizarre answers.
On this alone. The last Presidential race was a shit show of insane proportions (I voted, but not Dem/Repub).
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Between this, skateboarding as an adult, and his thoughtful and nuanced policy positions I think this Beto guy is pretty good. I've seen him firsthand and he's one of authentic and knowledgeable people around.
I'd say he's definitely better than the uneducated racist who goaded his "bikers for Trump" to violently attack his opposition one twitter as white nationalists were executing a mass shooting in a mosque while praising Trump on Facebook live.
he secured the votes of a small generation of people, some that might be people that probably would never vote.
I was close... oh well, he's still 1000% more likeable and trustworthy than "My wife, kids, and father are off limits but I'll vote for you anyway" SPINELESS TED CRUZ lol. The weakest Texan since Trey Gowdy's haircut.
Does the POTUS need to get security clearance the way any other government employee would or do they get it for free by being elected? I'm pretty sure by admitting you were involved in computer hacking would jeopardize that.
Beto, better known by his hacker name 0t3b, was not only a member of cDc, but the founder. After flashing an EEPROM with gamma radiation, 0t3b slammed the chip into his arm where the gamma radiation linked the chip to his bloodstream giving him uber-leet superpowers. 0t3b could now hack the gibson using only his voice and gesture controls.
Seriously, watch out for this guy. You think a Russian agent in the White House is bad? 0t3b is literally where Russian and Chinese haxorz wannabees go to learn their skillz.
Some Irish-heritage person claiming to be Hispanic go garner idiot votes? Why is that a good thing?
Geez, next thing you know some lily-white millionaire is going to pretend to be a Native American to get ahead.
All this cultural appropriation has to stop!
If he was a Republican, you'd be hearing:
- He's the son of a judge
- Went to boarding school
- Dodged burglary and DUI charges
- He married into a Billionaire family
But he's a Democrat, so nothing matters. Different standards. It's so important that he be judged by different standards the media won't even give you the information you need to make any other judgement.
Remember running into dead cow members on the bus from airport at Defcon.
What I remember most was when asked about backdoors in back orifice shit eating grin on face of the speaker was priceless.
That was a lifetime ago back when Defcon was cool. Now it's full of lame sellouts.
Oh great he's a Window's guy... No way I can vote for him now...
"is notorious for releasing tools that allowed ordinary people to hack computers running Microsoft's Windows."
In other words, malware. Back Orfice and BO2K were both identified by all virus scanners as such.
cDc was also playing for the other team: in 2006 cDc denounced a call to cyberwar against the Chinese government. Can you imagine? A hacker group advocating the interests of our strategic competitor? Maybe if we'd hacked China harder back then we wouldn't be in the mess we are today. cDc deleted the incriminating press release from their website but fortunately the internet never forgets. I went to one of Drunkfux' HoHoCons but I wouldn't have gone if I had known the cDc was going to turn out like this. Fortunately, I'm not running for office. But O'Rourke is. Members of malware groups who advocate for China's interests shouldn't be in any elected office.
Shutting down free speech with violence isn't fighting fascism. It IS fascism!
Was his involvement in the group from the days when high school kids (or younger) could wreak havoc with Windows using a Word Basic macro? If so, then who cares?
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And my compliments to whoever wrote it. He seems like the sort of person I dream of being in charge. Unfortunately, I am not an American so it is possible they aimed at the wrong demographic.
I reserve the write to mangle english.
Our industry and community seems socially inept and has brought us such innovations as the destruction of privacy, the propagation of hate, and the commercialization of false information. And I'm supposed to feel better about Beto because he's a part of that shit?
Not looking forward to the primaries, none of the candidates are ideal, Warren's incompetent even if her heart's in the right place, Harris has that slick tells-you-what-you-wanna-hear Obama like quality, Sanders is the Democrat's Ron Paul, and everyone else is just... urgh. Beto? Unless he backtracks and distances himself from ever being associated with jackasses like me I'm not seeing a great reason to vote for him.
You are not alone. This is not normal. None of this is normal.
I still think his changing his name to pretend to be Hispanic is super stupid, but I relish the thought of a for-real hacker becoming president and having inside access to pretty much every government computer network...
Too bad there is zero chance of a white male of any dirt getting to be the Democratic candidate.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
So which one was he, and why should I pay attention to an article that can't even fucking spell Swamp Ratte' properly?
Where does he get off assigning himself a Spanish nickname. He is just about as Latin as tuna casserole.
on the back of my neck stand up. Reminds me of Bill Clinton "I smoked pot but did not inhale" comment, same thing happened when I heard that, like right! he did not inhale!, weasel words! Why couldn't he just say yes I did! Heck I could care less.
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Beto may very well win since he is a darling of the left/media.. Only then will we find out who he really is.
All I know is I won't vote for him, but that hardly matters.
Just my 2 cents
As someone heavily involved with that scene very heavily from 89 to 98, BULLSHIT. Thank you. Next thing, he will be saying he was really Omega.
And our (Virginia) Lt. Governor is credibly accused of forcing a woman down to suck his dick and the same people who wanted to all but literally nail Roy Moore (Republican) to a literal cross over accusations are shrieking "due process!!11!" or trying to just pretend there's no reason to even investigate.
I bet he has mad skillz.
Yeah, this is believable. He's so relatable. I'm sure someone will get around to posting a paragraph to his wiki page of his programming exploits from his hacking days.
Warren didn't lie about her heritage, just slightly exaggerated its significance. The DNA test shows that she could be telling the truth. However, Trump did lie about paying 1m USD if she takes the test https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/15/elizabeth-warren-dna-test-she-urges-trump-to-fulfill-1-million-charity-pledge.html
But obviously he's a liar and a traitor so no ones surprised.
The claim that Harris slept her way up is chauvinistic and stupid. Voters didn't elect her because she was some guys squeeze more than a decade ago... That's nonsense. By that association Trump was in Russia in 87 and came back to publish an anti NATO full page ad. He has 5 convicted felons in his team, met with master Russian spies (knowingly) and did so much more. Yet you are using a public relation (this wasn't a hidden relationship) to imply an improper relationship... That's damn stupid.
Republicans are grasping at straws trying to find something, but there was never anything remotely as corrupt as Trump.
Better put him away right away, because "computer hacking"* is a crime, don't you know.
* Whatever that might be, for the law doesn't know and doesn't care.
But hey, you n00bZ think that 2K of RAM is small.
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Finally someone who might get technology. On that alone, I'd give him a chance FFS... instead of being stuck with the pontificating tribe elders who only see a 'series-of-tubes'.
I remember Back Orifice. I hooked up Doom to Back Orifice with some custom C code. doom Hack. You could kill monsters that represented processes on remote machines.
Joseph Elwell.
Caught on camera at a summit. LOL
Should... people living in America just "forget" that Trump is a traitor? Why? What's your rationale, traitor apologist faggot?
Haha tacoland, how Texas scene of him.
I wonder what software he ran? I'd bet telegard.
I had to check to make sure it wasn't April 1st, when /. notoriously goes to shit.
I find this fact remarkable. I'm not sure if it makes him in touch or a criminal, but that kind of technical literacy in politics in interesting in it's own right.
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Typical repubtard fallacy. The quadfecta. Blame the poor/black/immigrants/left.
The parent was only pointing out the double-standards of left wing 'journalism'. He made no judgments about the candidate.
Narrator: EMACS or VI?
Beto: Notepad.
*Mushroom clouds all over America*
Its not bad if its true. Are you deny that democrat party is only interested in promoting benefits to scummy minoritys over those of normal everyday americans like us?
Now I want to punch him square in the mouth. It's personal, b&tch.
deleting the extra space after periods so i can stay relevant, yeah.
Nobody say Kavanaugh, we don't want a crybaby fest... I LOVE BEER, ok? I tried to rape a BEER. I love PERJURY and BEER, and BOOFING. Ok? (Sobbing bitch sounds)
It's not important for politicians to be uber-l33t. They only need to know enough to hire, and not be casually bullshitted by, good expert advisors in any technical areas.
Now Beto's certainly not the worst Blue Team candidate - that would either be Amy Klobuchar or Howard Schultz, I'm not sure which - but he's a boring centrist, and the US can't afford the same old cycle of waiting in stay-the-course centrist holding patterns under Democratic administrations in between the rapid-fire devastating setbacks of Republican administrations. There are some actual radical leftists running and I hope one of them wins.
"When information is power, privacy is freedom" - Jah-Wren Ryel
What was wrong with what he said? Do you hold Trump to similar high standards of conduct? No? Why not?
Does anyone know what his on-line or screen name was? With him running a BBC he must have had one and might have had a different one while messing in the hacker groups.
Now, if he were a member of the Church of the SubGenius...
I wrote for cDc and 2600 as a teenager. Has had zero effect upon my adult life, as it should Beto.
Eat cock /., you've becone nothing but a troll.
The Electoral College is bullshit, just like you old man.
"pow wow" my have begun as a Native American translation, but it has become standard English just like saying "Sunday go to meeting" in a work setting - it means an important chat between 2 or more people.
It is only offensive if the person has claimed to be Native American.
"Chief" - is what you call someone with that title officially. There are military, police and fire "chiefs." It is a form of respect.
Of course, if you are a bigot or racist, then you'll see negative meanings in everything someone you don't like says.
emacs or vi ?
with her political policies?
I'm willing to take a candidate with a few warts when they're as on point with everything else as Warren. She's the one who got us the CFBP. Her opponents in the GOP OTOH are the ones who gutted it. Policy matters.
Also, missing from that little story is that it did NOT advance her career. It had no bearing on her application whatsoever. She was just a dumb college kid who liked to think of herself as Native American. Like when your Aunt tells you she was descended from royalty.
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Sooo glad I disinvested from your shithole country.. you're garbage.
everything I've heard him say sounds exactly like what I heard from Clinton (both of them). He's also backed down from Medicare for All, which is a deal breaker.
To be blunt, if I wanted another right of center candidate I've got Harris for that. But Beto knows this. He's not running for President, he's running for the VP on a more progressive ticket. He's Biden 2.0.
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Tell us about how diversity adds to your success in Amurrika.. go on pleb..
Some people in the USA should learn the definition of traitor, that's for sure.
I figure the Democrat's will become stuck in their own muck of stumbling over each other with radical and not nationally popular platforms. All the while Trump ends up finding a overall consensus again of public interest and winning another term. Honestly, I see more special interest candidate on the Democrat side then any real useful challenger to Trump. I really don't know what to make of the Democratic party anymore? They have let the lunatics run the asylum these days. What happened to the working class party for America?
So she claimed Native American heritage, in order to save a little bit of money on college tuition. Now, what it that supported by?
Well, let's see - she took a DNA test, and it turns out the actually does have some Native American ancestry, albeit distant. It is enough to claim Native American heritage on college documentation? I don't know. Were any limitations defined at the time regarding who can claim it? Is she really lying, or did she grow up thinking she had deeper roots in Native American ancestry? I grew up being told I was 1/4 Russian. After nearly five decades, I recently learned that it is more likely Polish ancestry. Who is to say, without a DNA test? Does anybody really care that much, or is it simply another case of the Republicans over-hyping it, trying to villify her over petty shit?
All she did was use the law to her advantage.
Contrast that with Trump.
He uses post-ex-facto negotiations, so he can cheap-out on paying contractors, knowing most of those contractors will fold, because they can't afford to go up against his army of lawyers. It is a well known tactic of his, that he uses over and over and over again. He is effectivly stealing their profit margins by using the law to his advantage, because he knows he can get away with it.
He uses bankruptcy laws as a means to the same end. How many businesses has he run into the ground, only to declare bankruptcy, to avoid having to pay back his creditors? Again, he is using the laws to his advantage.
Now I ask you - who is the unethical criminal?
The September 1999 cover story for the late, great Boardwatch Magazine was my interview with Sir Dystic, which took place at the house in the Oakland Hills he shared with a half-dozen other members of the Cult of the Dead Cow.
Note that the link points to my own website, because no other web archive of the magazine from that period exists, afaik. But here's the Caltech Library citation for the article, in case you have any doubts about its provenance ...
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and pwned and his phone contents dumped for all to see. Won't the billionaire family he married into be so proud. He must have been the guy in the hacker group who brought the drugs. A real Jefferson.
Hmm ... all attempts to appear cool have failed so far ... er, uh, what about this, I'm a 133t hax0r! Yeah, that's it!
Oh, it's not a good system. But it is the system that exists.
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Oldest my @$$!
not a list of accomplishments, even if they're ones I can relate to. I don't need reliability, I need policies that help me and mine.
Bernie gets my vote because of Medicare for All (among other things). That Bernie's been a civil rights activist is secondary to that.
I look at it this way: I wouldn't vote for Jesse Jackson just because he was a civil rights activist, and I won't vote Beto just because he was a programmer.
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it was her State Bar Registration Card. I've yet to see anyone say there were any concrete advantages to that. Hell, I've known some Native Americans, if anything it hurt.
She was a goofy lefty college chick who wanted to believe she was an Indian princess. She grew out of it. I wish the rest of the country would. Her stance on banking regulation could spare us another recession if we'd only listen.
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Beto is a favorite of the Establishment. The same folks who gave you Hillary like Beto. He's right wing on virtually all issues you can get him to comment on.
The reason you can't get any straight answers out of him on policy is because voters are tired of the Establishment. If Hilary hadn't cheated and if her buddies at MSNBC hadn't orchestrated a campaign to ignore Bernie we'd be saying "President Bernie" right now and passing Medicare for All.
The Establishment doesn't want to pay for you and me to have heathcare, so the buried Bernie and promoted Hillary. They're trying to do the same with Biden/Beto. Don't fall for it. It's another snow job.
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That's racist! You're discriminating against him for being old! somebody should dox this guy!
Beto is a tool.
If he had been a member of the LoD or the MoD then I might be impressed. Naw... He'd just be lying again.
It's only not OK if he's a she!
A short story Beto O'Rourke wrote:
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We know who did it
Venerable? Yes. But oldest?
Wikipedia says cDc was founded in 1984. But it also says Chaos Computer Club has that beat by three years. And there are, or were, lots of others.
For instance: DECMUG (Digital Equipment Corporation MisUsers Group), which, though small, was well established by about 1973 IIRC.
Bantam Dominique roosters crow a four-note song. Once you've heard it as "Happy BIRTHday" you can't NOT hear it that way
That would be an ageist, not a racist you prick
Wait, what? the 414s predate cDc by several years, and phreakers go all the way back to the 50s.
Oh, and Al Gore invented the internet. Suuuuuuuure.
Elizabeth Warren has built a career on two basic things:
Championing the "little guy" against the rich and their powerful corporations, including calling for "free college" - while personally milking the system for every dollar she can get, including charging something like 300K per year to teach ONE CLASS at a university (wonder why you need to go so far into debt for your college loans?) If you study her seriously, you'll discover she's pretty good at making money, in a wide range of ways, abusing little people.
and
Advancing the idea that minorities need to be advanced and white people need to be nudged aside in a system she pretends is a zero-sum-game - while she personally is as white as can be, yet pretended to be one of the oft-cited-as most-oppressed minorities: an American Indian.
And to top it all off, she is an incompetent dingbat. Consider:
One of her biggest so-called successes as a US Senator was that she tried to create yet another engineered-to-be-unaccountable quasi-government agency. Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are such agencies an earlier wave of Democrats created to be controlled by congress (rather than the executive branch where government aganecies are supposed to reside) so that Democrats (who controlled congress for 40 consecutive years) rather than Presidents (who were often Republican) would be always in control of them. Under that scheme, Fannie and Freddie went nuts and absorbed most American mortgage activity while getting increasingly risky. In 2007 when the Bush admin sent people to congress to ask for authority to limit the craziness at Fannie and Freddie, the Democrats running the US Senate (including at the time Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, Barack Obama, and Bernie Sanders) voted UNANIMOUSLY to say "no" and they actually laughed the Bush team out of the Senate hearing - less than a year later Fannie and Freddie were ground-zero of the home mortage meltdown that hit the financial industry. Elizabeth Warren, in the aftermath of the meltdown, doubled-down and co-created the "Consumer Financial Protection Bureau" with rules that made it even harder to control and then added the feature of funding it directly from the Federal Reserve (so it's not even accountable to the congress since it's revenue stream is directly from the private bankers and not annual congressional appropriations). The assumption was that Obama would be followed by a Democrat and then demographics would make all future Presidents Democrats, so the Director would always be appointed by Democrats and would not need to answer to congress (which in recent years has flipped back and forth between Republicans and Democrats). The Trump got elected and he appointed Mick Mulvaney. At his first appearance before Elizabeth Warren's Senate oversight comittee she tried to grill Mulvaney and he blew her off---- and when she got angry about it he hillariously pointed out to her that she had designed the office so that it was unaccountable and now he was just gonna blow her off to teach her a lesson about stupidity. [DOH!]
Elizabeth Warren is one of those very rare creatures who learns either nothing, or all the wrong lessons, from history.
Anyone who believes being or having been a hacker - therefore a criminal - is anything to be proud of should never be able to pursue a career in politics. Hackers make us less safe, endanger our society, are actively aiding and abetting criminal schemes, they arm the ill-intentioned and the lowlifes. Through naive hollywoodized portraits they have been presented as rebellious heroes whereas in real life they're nothing but cowards. We need new, harder laws to deal with them and general purpose programmable computers must be banned from public use. In this day and age the ordinary citizen does not need to program a computer. What for? Software is developed by teams of professionals and the idea that anyone without a professional background and the backing of a firm could do anything is laughable in this day and age. Make hacking a thing of the past. Make it impossible.
For its entire history, the Democrat party has been fixated on skin color and sex.
They owned all the black people as slaves (Historic fact: not one slave was ever owned by a Republican) .
They implemented the "Jim Crow" laws across the south to discriminate against black people.
They created the KKK and its leaders were guests of honor at Democrat presidential convensions for years.
They segregated the federal government along racial lines (it had not always been that way but then Democrat icon Woodrow Wilson got elected...)
They put Japanese Americans into internment camps during WWII (courtesy of Democrat icon Franklin D Roosevelt)
They turned-back many Jews trying to escape the Holocaust.
Their immigration laws, particularly the changes made by Democrat "Lion of the Senate" Teddy Kennedy several decades ago are full of racial quotas.
They are famous for "Affirmative Action" and various school bussing plans which are always portrayed as assistance to minorities, but which are nonetheless making decisions about people based on groups, by skin color (rather than the individuals) and are often couched in terms that repulsively imply that if you just put non-whites around white people it will make them better.
The "Three Fifths Clause" of the Constitution does NOT say that black people are 3/5ths of a person. READ IT. It says "non-free" persons (which includes black slaves, indentured servants, and prisoners) count as 3/5ths of a person IN THE CENSUS and FOR THE PURPOSE OF ALLOCATING SEATS IN CONGRESS ONLY. This was done as a compromise because the Democrats were trying to count their slaves in order to get more seats in congress that would support slavery (those added seats would represent slave OWNERS not the black slaves but they would be allocated becasue there would be so many slaves) - They were trying to use black people for political power (and outrageously to guarantee the further oppression of blacks) even back in 1776!!!!!!
Now, the Democrats have convinced themselves that they have imported enough racial minorities into the country that the demographics mean that future presidents will have to be minorities, to get minority support - ANOTHER DEMOCRAT ACT OF RACISM since it assumes minorities willl only vote for other minorities and also assumes that you can predict how people will vote by knowing their skin color.
As for Robert Francis (AKA "Beto") pretending to be Hispanic, well he's in good company:
Rachel Dolezol - pretended to be black and was running an NAACP chapter.
Ward Churchill - pretended to be a Native American and was a well-known Colorado college professor and liberal activist
Elizabeth Warren - fake Native American.
There are more examples, but that's a good start.
This Identity Politics stuff is extremely toxic and has been a feature of the Democrats for 200+ years. Some things never change.
If he's the Beto, when do we get the Release Candidate?
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2600 existed prior to cult of the dead cow. The 2600 group started publishing the hackers quarterly the same year cDc was founded. But existed many years before that.
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Are you referring to the Gramm*-Leach*-Bliley* act?
* Sen. Phil Gramm (R, Texas)
* Rep. Jim Leach (R, Iowa)
* Rep. Thomas J. Bliley, Jr. (R, Virginia)
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