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exactly what I was thinking. The list is feeble.

How Derek and his "Ph.D" didn't make the list is unforgiveable.

I can remember following the flamewar closely - certainly spent far more time on it than I spent actually playing BC3000AD.

In the end I felt sorry for him, because he did seem to want the best for his game. But his hair trigger temper was absolutely hilarious.

I suggest anyone who doesn't know the story has a read at this site- guaranteed to give you a laugh!

http://follies.werewolves.org/

Why isn't he on this list??? His indie Battlecruiser series, now renamed Ultimate Fighting Championship, are the greatest ever, with secret AI goodness! Hell, the man has a PhD! These games by high school dropouts are nothing compared to the masterpieces that have been in development for years! His flamewar was the greatest online game for years - it's time his software was recognized too! Aaaaaahhhhhh!

Notorious, but not near as much as this guy!

Really?
Someone should tell these guys

I think the grand old man and "inventor" of vaporware needs to be summoned:

Derek, come out and tell me where's the manual to BattleCruiser Millenium. Slashdot crowd deserves your explanation.
Derek, I know you reading this!

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For those of you who don't know who he is:
Derek Smart is the author of BattleCruiser 3000ad, a game that coined the term vaporware. He first started to hype it in 1995 stating that it will be ready in a few months. Eventually a working version got out around 2001. In the mean time Derek participated in USENET's longest flame wars and tried to insult everyone. Hence, August 22. is Derek Smart Says F-ck You Day.
Dr. smart has also been active in other online forums. Here is one enlightening example from EvilAvatar.

For more information see: this intro or comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.strategic.

I think the grand old man and "inventor" of vaporware needs to be summoned:

Derek, come out and tell me where's the manual to BattleCruiser Millenium. Slashdot crowd deserves your explanation.
Derek, I know you reading this!

--

For those of you who don't know who he is:
Derek Smart is the author of BattleCruiser 3000ad, a game that coined the term vaporware. He first started to hype it in 1995 stating that it will be ready in a few months. Eventually a working version got out around 2001. In the mean time Derek participated in USENET's longest flame wars and tried to insult everyone. Hence, August 22. is Derek Smart Says F-ck You Day.
Dr. smart has also been active in other online forums. Here is one enlightening example from EvilAvatar.

For more information see: this intro or comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.strategic.

I think the grand old man and "inventor" of vaporware needs to be summoned:

Derek, come out and tell me where's the manual to BattleCruiser Millenium. Slashdot crowd deserves your explanation.
Derek, I know you reading this!

--

For those of you who don't know who he is:
Derek Smart is the author of BattleCruiser 3000ad, a game that coined the term vaporware. He first started to hype it in 1995 stating that it will be ready in a few months. Eventually a working version got out around 2001. In the mean time Derek participated in USENET's longest flame wars and tried to insult everyone. Hence, August 22. is Derek Smart Says F-ck You Day.
Dr. smart has also been active in other online forums. Here is one enlightening example from EvilAvatar.

For more information see: this intro or comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.strategic.

For some reason, every time someone talks of "jumping" techniques in Halo, I'm somehow, somehow reminded of the phrase "crash-jumping", even though that has little to do with Halo as such...

A simple link would have saved us all the hassle (thanks for that, by the way).

Not sure about the rest of that site, but this page contains a lot of commentary that is not really fair to Smart. For instance, simply checking the manual for the phone in question (Sony SPP-A972, or very similar) pretty much discredits the last paragraph of commentary.

A simple search would have answered that... http://www.werewolves.org/~follies/

While you apparently mock his PhD

he's also the lead developer of the Battlecruiser games. (In other words, a 100% professional coder, unlike perhaps you, dear Windows dweeb.)

patents can refer to methods and systems, and exactly how tangible are those?

And I'll leave it to the real Derek to respond to you with that post with eight occurrences of "shit", no more, no less.

While you apparently mock his PhD

he's also the lead developer of the Battlecruiser games. (In other words, a 100% professional coder, unlike perhaps you, dear Windows dweeb.)

patents can refer to methods and systems, and exactly how tangible are those?

And I'll leave it to the real Derek to respond to you with that post with eight occurrences of "shit", no more, no less.

Oops, here's the link:

History

Great, funny guy. You HAVE to listen to his rants!

Today, we, the John Romero Appreciation Society would like to call a day of celebration for John Romero, a great man of our times. Possessed of both visionary vision and a mind like a steel trap, John has consistently redefined the ideas of what constitutes a good game, with such masterpieces as Commander Keen and Daikatana. Like many great men, such as Derek Smart and the guy who commissioned Big Rigs, John is underappreciated by many.

We'd like to change this. He bought us such delights as Doom and that delivery boy game. He made greasy skin, weight problems and unwashed hair socially acceptable. He showed us that if you're rich, it doesn't matter if your wife is an illegal immigrant half your age. Please, before you criticise him, remember this-he fucked a Playboy model and you didn't.

Here's a pic of an ATM with a BSOD. This guy claims to have been able to get to a Windows desktop on an ATM.

Wow...I didn't know Derek Smart posted on slashdot. Derek, go away...your PhD isn't real.

Is it just me, or is that not a flamewar at all? Flamewars are all-out textual brawls; this appears to be some mild discussion with the most offensive line of text referring to being born in the US as 'unfortunate'. And after that outbreak, the situation mostly resolved itself.

OH NO! HNNGG! BURRRN! TAKE THAT! These guys are obviously flame-war masters, with the powers to bring forth Derek Smart levels of binary cacophony.

Now 2 the Ranting Gryphon can come to us in high-def, color-corrected video. Looking forward to all that bandwidth going right down the crapper.

Quick question...is Worldforge going slower or faster than Golgotha Forever (the game that is literally taking "forever" to get anywhere)?

Last time I heard anything from Golgotha Forever, they were "trying" to restart the development - the team wasn't too eager to continue anymore. The code is out there though...

Last time I checked the actual game, the engine looked pretty nice, the game was missing =)

And hey, the fact that game gets long development things isn't a factor - usually it's just an indicator that game may actually be pretty good. (or not.)