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Are Video Blogs Ready For Prime Time?

Markmarkmark writes "Is video blogging ready for prime-time? Can Internet talking 'blog-heads' beat the talking heads on Fox? Is the next Andy Rooney-type commentator going to be a /.er? With new technology and a little creativity, this MSNBC article today thinks so. 'The big problems have been setting up lights and a camera in my study properly, so that I don't look dead, or hung over.'" The article is about the software / hardware it takes to set up a microstudio; the author does not really explore much about the video-blogging implications -- but you can.

191 comments

  1. Boobies! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That would make a good video blog

  2. A Day in the Life of a Geek? by Kombat · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Come on, with all the far more provocative reality TV out there (viewers choosing a spouse for someone, 16 whiny crybabies dumped in the Amazon, a dude pretending he's a millionaire), who's gonna watch Linus recompile his kernel?

    Is it possible that this whole "blogging" craze has been the fastest flash-in-the-pan to hit the technology world yet? Dare I dream that the even the uber-geeks and posers have already come to the conclusion that "hey, you know what? I'm not really that exciting, and nobody cares what I had for breakfast today"?

    "Blogging" has graphically illustrated for me the old adage, "Just because you can, doesn't mean you shouldn't."

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    1. Re:A Day in the Life of a Geek? by Kombat · · Score: 2, Funny

      :s/shouldn't/should

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    2. Re:A Day in the Life of a Geek? by PyroMosh · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Anyone else think that this article sounds like a Jon Katz article ? The way it tries to predict the future while sounding like it's got some great insight to the social signifigance of technology without actually understanding said technology? In my mind, he's a bit like the way some people describe Howard Stern or Rush Limbaugh. I can't stand him, I think he's an idiot, but I miss him! What ever happened to him?

      Of course Video Blogs aren't the wave of the future. At least not the near future. It would be high bandwidth instead of low, it wouldn't be easily searchable or easy to catalog. It's an order of magnitude harder to do with no tangible benefits except for a little bit of "cool factor".

    3. Re:A Day in the Life of a Geek? by BitwizeGHC · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Actually "Just because you can, doesn't mean you shouldn't" is a driving philosophy behind a lot of stupid things getting done.

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    4. Re:A Day in the Life of a Geek? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Net will become one big episode of dawson's creek.

    5. Re:A Day in the Life of a Geek? by squaretorus · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Blogging sucks. No blog is going to attract millions of viewers a day. But a million blogs might.

      Give me a service where I can hook up a text, picture, and video connection with my 'posse' and if I'm egocentric enough I'll take it.

      The only blogs to make it into the mainstream - i.e. attract a wider audience than their network of friends - will have a tabloid interest - nudity, offensiveness, extreme views, or some other rally call. No offence to that special breed of /.er who have 'popular' journals. But look at the content - hardly recommendations for new distros!

      Personally I don't want my 'pub rants' preserved to be thrown back at me in 20 years time when Im up for head of the city council and one of my opponents wants to raise my past life as an ecoterrorist.

    6. Re:A Day in the Life of a Geek? by Joe+the+Lesser · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I agree. In fact, I don't understand the whole blogging thing, and I've gotten pretty deep into the cyberworld.

      Anytime I read an article on blogging, I wonder why:

      A:) I've never met anyone personally who talks about them.

      and B:) I've never, in all my research and surfing time, come across one. (Other than Dave Barry's, but that was from the /. story and I didn't stay long.)

      So I think I'll just ignore them until they go away, like I did with the Y2K thing.

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    7. Re:A Day in the Life of a Geek? by GigsVT · · Score: 1

      I've never, in all my research and surfing time, come across one.

      WTF do you think Slashdot is?

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    8. Re:A Day in the Life of a Geek? by corbettw · · Score: 0

      Hey, you're right. Katz hasn't written anything since July of last year. Did he get hit by a bus or something?

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    9. Re:A Day in the Life of a Geek? by donpardo · · Score: 1

      He's moved on to something he might actually know something about.

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    10. Re:A Day in the Life of a Geek? by Bluetick · · Score: 1

      I think the /. admin noticed that everyone put Katz stories on their do-not-see list.

    11. Re:A Day in the Life of a Geek? by kisrael · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Is it possible that this whole "blogging" craze has been the fastest flash-in-the-pan to hit the technology world yet? Dare I dream that the even the uber-geeks and posers have already come to the conclusion that "hey, you know what? I'm not really that exciting, and nobody cares what I had for breakfast today"?

      If that's what you think Blogs are, you're reading the wrong ones. Nice strawman.

      Decent blogs are either link centric, or commentary by someone who's smart. There are a number of crappy ones, but so what.

      I think video blogs are a bad idea, because it eliminates some of the advantages of the text and static image based web; you can browse, skim, and follow links from text, and you have mroe flexibility in how you parcel out your attention (close read all at once, reading here and there while doing something else, etc)

      I think there's *some* room for this kind of format though; anyone remember the very funny daily (and now defunct) Internet show "Computer Stew"? ZD Net pulled the plug alas, but they had some funny stuff...and the got started with less than $3000 of consumer grade hardware.

      (Hmm, looks you can still see episodes -- I should see if they still have their music video tribute to Notepad.exe ....

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    12. Re:A Day in the Life of a Geek? by jweatherley · · Score: 1

      Heh! Except the trolls - a Katz story would get about 500 (well deserved) flames before a vaguely ontopic reply was posted!

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    13. Re:A Day in the Life of a Geek? by Marco_polo · · Score: 1

      Good point.

      Then again, Blogging software is very useful to setup a mini portal to a website. It's easy to add updates on the fly to good stuff. I can't say I've run across a BLOG filled with teenage Angst (When I see dark brooding colors and a tinny MIDI file kicks in, I tend to hit the back button). But for keeping track of funny stuff, it's a really useful tool.

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    14. Re:A Day in the Life of a Geek? by overunderunderdone · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The only blogs to make it into the mainstream - i.e. attract a wider audience than their network of friends - will have a tabloid interest - nudity, offensiveness, extreme views, or some other rally call.

      This is largely true but I would add that just being offensive or having extreme views is insufficient. The thing about popular bloggers like Glenn Reynolds (who probably just attracted a million viewers today - the "story" on MSNBC was one of his two blogs) is that they are actually expressing informed views on topics they have some expertise on - Glenn for instance isn't just some wacko spouting off about politics, he is a law professor that teaches constitutional law spouting off about politics - and that makes a big difference. The democratization of the media obviously results in a vast increase in the amount of dreck but among that dreck there are also some gems and they will tend to rise to the top & as they do they will be refined.

      I tend think that the democratization of video will not (for the most part) be anything like "blogging" since even amateur video takes time and forethought and the appeal of blogging is for writers and amateur (and professional) thinkers & pundits to get out their thoughts quickly in an informal format. Bloggers may occasionally use video and will likely link to those that do as fodder for their blogs but very little of it would properly be called "video blogging". As an example of what I'm talking about I'm sure Glenn is thinking about "video" and "blogging" because of this little sarcastic man-on-the-street interview/documentary a conservative blogger did at the Peace march in NYC - it was amateurish but also pretty funny and fairly well done.

    15. Re:A Day in the Life of a Geek? by Oculus+Habent · · Score: 2, Insightful

      We have technology available that allows you to search audio files by phonemes. That can be rolled together into dictation software and could provide a text track/file that would be searchable. This would require a bit of new software to be written. It would probably end up with an XML style document where each word or sentence is marked by data describing its time index.

      As a side note, technology like that would have incredibly beneficial implications for the television/movie world - imagine being able to index all the speech in a movie and bring up clips based on word usage. This would improve the gathering of footage for news programs and could make editing documentaries easier.

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    16. Re:A Day in the Life of a Geek? by AtrN · · Score: 1

      A, to be unnamed, corporate R&D lab where I worked was doing exactly this type of indexing. About three years ago. It was quite the rage as I understood. The patents database may be a good place to look :)

    17. Re:A Day in the Life of a Geek? by Idarubicin · · Score: 1

      Actually, I've found that more stupid things are accomplished due to a "Just because you can't, doesn't mean you shouldn't" attitude.

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    18. Re:A Day in the Life of a Geek? by unitron · · Score: 1
      What I was thinking was don't be standing in the way when Katz rushes to jump on this bandwagon.

      As far as video blogs (and blogs in general for that matter) are concerned, it brings to mind the old saying "Fools' names, like fools' faces, are often seen in public places".

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    19. Re:A Day in the Life of a Geek? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's not what I use my live journal blog for at all. I use it to keep in touch with my friends, read about whats going on in their lives, they read about mine. etc.

      Sure I post the occasional political rant and what not, but I don't expect or want a lot of people to be reading it.

    20. Re:A Day in the Life of a Geek? by kisrael · · Score: 1

      Sorry, I was painting with too broad a brush.

      Having a small, personal audience blog is great. It's the blogs that are clearly aiming for a mass audience yet have an excessively naval gazing attitude that really annoy. (Also annoying, and my page is a little guilty of this, are blogs that are just playing "best of" metafilter, slashdot, memepool, and/or boingboing.)

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    21. Re:A Day in the Life of a Geek? by habondia · · Score: 1

      that is not neccessarily true. blogging is about talking about your daily activities and for some it is posting some sites or news or pictures, or whatever catches your eyes for yourself to go back to later or to share with others to read and also allows users/readers to post---just like this web page. if you dont like it, then all you have to do is close the window and if you think it is really cool, then you will tell others about it, or even post it on your site or blog. if it is not safe for work, most posters will put NSFW (which means Not Safe For Work)
      the convenience of a blog is: YOU get to choose what you put on there and post for a million viewers to read. so if you dont want something to be throw up 20 years later, then dont post it or dont make that posting public. YOU have the control of what everyone else sees/reads on YOUR blog.

  3. Redundant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Let's all have a whine about the word `blog'

    1. Re:Redundant by patch-rustem · · Score: 1
      Let's all have a whine about the word `blog'
      vidog, videblog, vog, . . . this isn't going to catch on, is it.
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    2. Re:Redundant by zoeblade · · Score: 1

      >vidog, videblog, vog, . . . this isn't going to catch on, is it.

      Yeah, it's far too similar to the catchy phrase Ogg Vorbis. People would get confused.

  4. OK... by James_Duncan8181 · · Score: 5, Insightful
    ...so I'm a blogger. You're telling me that I can go from having a easy to read and search text site with quite low bandwidth costs to paying through the nose to give a video stream to everyone?

    Umm... no thanks.

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    1. Re:OK... by DeadSea · · Score: 4, Interesting
      So lets figure out how much video blogging will cost. Lets say that you produce a 10 minute peice a day, and that 500 people tune in each day. Lets say that you put your video in a postage sized window and it comes out to 1MB. Thats half a GB a day.

      The current rates for bandwidth at this scale are about $1/GB of transfer. You will be spending about $180 a year for bandwidth for just 500 people. By contrast, you can get a text blog out to 4000 people a day for $50 a year (easily).

      Even then your blog is going to be low production quality, low recording quality, low compression quality, and in a postage stamp sized window. I wouldn't watch your blog.

      Maybe the 500 person thing is a bit to high given that nobody will watch. But say your blog does get popular. You will be spending 35 cents for every person that views a 1 MB download every day for a year.

      My back of the envelope calculations show that video blogging is not ready for primetime.

    2. Re:OK... by aminorex · · Score: 1

      With bittorrent or swarmcast, you don't have to send it 500 times.

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    3. Re:OK... by poot_rootbeer · · Score: 1

      Actually, no one's telling you you HAVE to switch from blogging to "vlogging" ($1 to Jeff Jarvis), just saying that the potential of audio and video are there if you (or any other blogger) have a use for it.

      I wonder if the same people who think vlogs have no practical uses and the text blogging is much better would have been as staunch in defending newspapers against the introduction of the television newscast?

  5. It's been done by acb · · Score: 2, Funny

    Don't camgirls with LiveJournals already do something like this?

  6. I honestly hope it will NEVER be prime time by lingqi · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I have trouble looking at myself in the mirror. Even thinking about people being able to see me talking in a demur tone to a webcam just makes me shudder. Through the internet is nightmarish.

    I think text blogs (not even pictures) are much better - it depends on your ability to describe things well, and it puts a comfortable anonymity for you *and* your reader. Who was it that said "After TV is in every american household, you will never see another president in a wheelchair"?

    Granted, often a picture is worth a thousand words - but I don't think video blog is worth the bandwidth / storage area. Even pictures needs to be sorted out to the last 5% of the cream before they are put on magazines, etc - video is just nasty. Slide show, maybe - video, no. (Just how many people go back and watch, minute my minute, their old family videos? exactly)

    And yes, I blog; pretty regularly too, so maybe I don't speak with authority, I have (some) experience in this

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    1. Re:I honestly hope it will NEVER be prime time by paulhar · · Score: 1

      > Who was it that said "After TV is in every american household, you will never see another president in a wheelchair"?

      You did. Argh, now I have too.

    2. Re:I honestly hope it will NEVER be prime time by Brento · · Score: 2, Funny

      I think text blogs (not even pictures) are much better - it depends on your ability to describe things well, and it puts a comfortable anonymity for you *and* your reader.

      Yeah, but what if you were reading your ex-girlfriend's blog? Don't you want to see the look in her eyes when she talks about how much she misses you and ...

      Oh, wait, this is /. Nobody misses us.

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    3. Re:I honestly hope it will NEVER be prime time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you sound like a sad person

  7. Blog entry for today by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    I just ate a bagle. It was pretty good.

    1. Re:Blog entry for today by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This banal post exactly sums up the problem with blogs generally. Just because you've got the time to say something doesn't mean you've got anything interesting to say. Look how many posts on slashdot have anything relevant to say and this is a (relatively) select group

    2. Re:Blog entry for today by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Why is that a problem? If someone is interested in the boring little details of someone else's life, that's fine with me. It's like with all those reality shows. I find them quite boring, because if I want reality, I can just step out of the door and taste some. Other people can't get enough of this stuff.

    3. Re:Blog entry for today by Enrico+Pulatzo · · Score: 1

      I think the problem comes down to convincing people to pay for a service to let other people view their banal lives...

  8. Lets think about what makes good tv... by Saoi · · Score: 1

    I know for sure it aint my life, could it be yours? If so, why? (100 words or less :)

    1. Re:Lets think about what makes good tv... by zoeblade · · Score: 1

      >I know for sure it aint my life, could it be yours? If so, why?

      Because I'm a depressed, philosophical transsexual on acid.*

      (*Except for the acid).

  9. If it turns mainstream, can we have the bandwidth? by Max+Romantschuk · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I like the idea. What I'm thinking about is what happens when ten thousand people start blogging and a million watches their blogs?

    Can the current Internet take that kind of an onslaught?

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  10. Nerds on TV by phrantic · · Score: 4, Funny

    The big problems have been setting up lights and a camera in my study properly, so that I don't look dead, or hung over. But those are hardware problems, not software. The software worked perfectly right out of the box.

    His initial concern is for his appearance, doesn't sound like "news for nerds" to me....

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  11. video bloggs? by paulhar · · Score: 1

    Does this mean we'll get Jennicam! with sound.

    Joy!

    1. Re:video bloggs? by British · · Score: 1

      BUt with the way Jennicam is, you would just get a 5-minute MPEG of an empty chair.

  12. One more step toward the irrelevence of literacy by cindik · · Score: 5, Insightful

    People used to read. Then came television and people chose to watch the story.

    But at least we geeks had computers. They were arcane and baffling to most people. We had JCL. We had 80 column cards. We had numbers in bases 8 and 16 we dared to call "octal" and "hex". We had RCPM and BBSes and MODEMS. And we had nearly everything in text.

    Now command lines aren't needed because of GUI interfaces (which seem easier at first but are a pain to use to get anything serious done). Don't get me wrong, I love good graphics (like watching the approaching storm on weather.com), but video weblogs will be another step towards turning the internet into interactive television. Watch screen. Move mouse. Click. Watch screen.

    I'm tired. Would someone read Slashdot to me?

  13. Re:If it turns mainstream, can we have the bandwid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A million people are going to watch some no-brain spout his pointless opinions? Lets face facts - if they were talking sense, they`d either have a job, or they'd be too busy with their social life. The unemployed won't be able to afford this tech, and the mentally ill already think their tv sends out messages as it is:
    http://www.five.org.uk/

  14. what's next? by g4dget · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Text nicely separates the message from the messenger. That's something that's desirable in most communications. If we didn't have it, we'd have to invent it. Leave the video to dating services, where the messenger is the message.

    Otherwise, what's next? Slashdot video postings? Shudder.

    1. Re:what's next? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Imagine seeing 10 people doing "in soviet russia"-jokes over video on slashdot....

    2. Re:what's next? by Enonu · · Score: 1

      Imagine the goatse.cx guy doing a video.goatse.cx blog. The horror is just beginning my friend.

    3. Re:what's next? by poot_rootbeer · · Score: 1

      Leave the video to dating services, where the messenger is the message.

      In the world of punditry and commentary (which is very well represented among a certain class of bloggers), there also the messenger is the message.

      I don't read Instapundit because I want to read some text written by god-knows-who: I read because I ask myself "What does Glenn Reynolds think about this subject?"

    4. Re:what's next? by spongman · · Score: 1

      How about being able to post audio clips to your blog, from your phone? This is pretty cool stuff, it currently only works with blogger, but it looks like they're trying to integrate it into other bloging software.

  15. Great... by BitwizeGHC · · Score: 1, Funny

    Now 2 the Ranting Gryphon can come to us in high-def, color-corrected video. Looking forward to all that bandwidth going right down the crapper.

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  16. How about a video version of /. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'd definately want to see the faces of the "F1r57 p057!!!!111 l337 dUUdz!!11" people.

    1. Re:How about a video version of /. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You think it would be their FACES?

  17. more interestingly... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    what can we use with linux?

    can we use a digital camera, connect it with firewire?
    what do we use to capture the video and convert it to divx?

    1. Re:more interestingly... by Dan+B. · · Score: 1

      what do we use to capture the video and convert it to divx

      The WEF's Gordian Knot of course!

      Actually, that's for M$ too, but it's got the best stuff for converting anything to DivX.

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  18. Cameras by trialsboy · · Score: 3, Funny

    I feel that any kind of camera, digital camera or video camera attached to my computer i anyway is bound to end up in my naked ass being posted around the world just after I've had a shower or something!

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    1. Re:Cameras by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If only the goatse guy would have been this +2 Insightful, many poor souls would have been spared a terrible (or deprived a tantalizing one, depending on your taste) moment

  19. hmmmm by ziggy_zero · · Score: 1

    Let's see....i'm a 17 year old guy who goes to a magnet high school who dj's (with turntables), plays the bass clarinet, sings in a band, is a radio show host, is an avid filmmaker and 3d modeler/animator, and has a small computer building business. I recently got arrested for assualt even though it was in self defense and I was the one who called 911 (there were some good scenes in there), and had to do community service. I've also been in love with this girl for four years and we started going out over the summer and we've been going out ever since - and she's the homecoming queen, and I'm having trouble getting intimate with her. Oh, I also have 3 cars. A 1986 mercury grand marquis, a 1970 mercury marquis convertible (with the license plate NIX CAR), and a 1991 bmw 750iL (NIX V12). I plan on moving to california next year. Ah, I love my life. (sorry that was over 100 words)

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    1. Re:hmmmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So you're pretty normal except you use too much petrol. Why would anyone but an environmental protester be interested in you?

    2. Re:hmmmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i heard you had trouble "getting intimate" because of your very small dick.

      all those cars man, and the dj and radio thing, great penis extensions but still not enough,

  20. Always 'on' by Kiint · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Somebody using a camera cell phone nearby? In the locker room perhaps? Sure you are not 'on'? Progress in micro camera gadgets and wireless technology will keep us "always on" in more ways than one. Look at this wireless pen cam. And with blogs going the way of live audio and video feeds... Instead of Big Brother we get gazillions of networked Little Brothers :)

    Ever read "The Light of Other Days" by Stephen Baxter and Arthur C. Clark?

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    1. Re:Always 'on' by sniser2 · · Score: 1
      Instead of Big Brother we get gazillions of networked Little Brothers :)
      Camcorder Truth Jihad! =P

      Anyway, let me make a small correction:
      Additional to Big Brother we get gazillions of networked Little Brothers :)
      These things are not mutually exclusive, you know. To the contrary.
  21. I like the way the question is framed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why isn't it "Can they beat ABCNBCCBSpMSNBC? Because this site is run by a bunch liberals. Wait'll Mike Savage hears about you.

    FOX is nothing but a video weblog, with its poor editing, lack of focus, stream of feelings babbling. It's Doc Searls, but with cute but bubbleheaded babes. And it's killing Dim Blather and the Temple of Doom.

  22. all is vanity by K. · · Score: 1

    According to a not-a-camgirl-really-your-honour acquaintance, the only lighting she uses is an A4 sheet of paper to bounce some light up from under her face. She probably regrets telling me this, however, as I now have a recurring item in my calendar to tease her about it fortnightly.

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  23. Re:One more step toward the irrelevence of literac by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    But at least we geeks had computers

    That's right. Any now everyone has computers. The Internet isn't just for geeks anymore. Geeks will move on to other projects or seclude themselves somewhere that regular people wouldn't want to go. Slashdot for example! :)

    Like blogging, if this becomes mainstream, don't expect to see the geeks being the #1 users, or even the target market.

  24. Boy this is dumb. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ignoring the implications of bandwitdh usage by a video blog, just think about the interface with the user. Video is unforgiving - it travels one direction in the 4th dimension. Once a part of a video is shown you have to futz around with a little slider bar trying to get back to the place where you left off if you miss anything.

    A traditional text blog leaves the reader in charge. They can read a bit, then take a bite of their sandwich, then their coworker can bug them for something, then they can go back to the blog with no harm and no foul.

  25. Is this what people want? by yuri · · Score: 5, Insightful

    weblogs are short, text based, easy to skim or ignore. Video you have to sit through it. You can't compile a big list of the videos and look at them at a glance. Its a different medium from tv.

    Just because you can provide video doesn't mean its the best format for weblogs.

    Even with video phones I think you will still find more people SMS than audio call, and more people audio call than video call.

  26. Re:If it turns mainstream, can we have the bandwid by Max+Romantschuk · · Score: 1

    A million people are going to watch some no-brain spout his pointless opinions?

    You're missing the point. The question I raised had nothing to do with the probability of people wanting to watch these blogs. I'm simply hypothesising, and wondering if the net can take it or not.

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  27. Re:One more step toward the irrelevence of literac by VEGx · · Score: 1
    Don't get me wrong, I love good graphics
    [I read: "cindik doesn't like to masturbate watching ASCII art..."]


    Sorry, I have a dirty mind...

  28. the WatchMeDance.com guy runs a Video Blog! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    -thedanceman- @ http://www.WatchMeDance.com runs a video blog site of him dancing around. It's funny stuff.

    1. Re:the WatchMeDance.com guy runs a Video Blog! by NickCageIsNamor · · Score: 1

      Yeah. I have seen this video blog site also. I check out WatchMeDance every morning at work.
      His outdoor stuff is the best. The looks people give him are priceless.

    2. Re:the WatchMeDance.com guy runs a Video Blog! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I just saw his David Hasselhoff video posted in IRC last night.

  29. Now I can reminisce where all my time went by ThundaGaiden · · Score: 1

    I've been looking into blogging , because it gives
    me a way of keeping a diary of sorts that has just
    enough of a technology edge that it'll keep me
    interested enough to keep writing in it.

    Mon - Fri : "Went to work today , came home
    watched some tv"... and that bit about looking
    undead or hungover , well I usually look one or
    the other

    Weekdays = undead
    Weekends = hungover :D

  30. Oh no... by moksliukas · · Score: 1

    So I have just caught up with the new technology of blogging through my mobile phone and now there is something new that I have to adapt to?

    Seriously, I see blogging a bit like writting a diary. Somehow doing it in video doesn't fit in my braincells. Video blogging is something completely new I guess. Something that might totally change the meaning of bogging (probably making it worse, cause making professional videos ir much harder than making professional writing IMHO)

  31. What utter pish! by Dan+B. · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I don't care how you moderate me, that article was rubbish. At best it was an advertisment for some video editing software and the fact that computers and cameras are now cheap enough for anyone to get in to making terrible vid-clips of bits of their lives that no one else cares about.

    Yaaawn...

    We want real news!

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    1. Re:What utter pish! by macthulhu · · Score: 1

      Amen. The last thing we need is to clog the net with even more huge useless files. Personally, I don't think any of us really need to see what any of the rest of us look like... Although, it may cut back on trolls and flames if people know they can be identified and beaten publicly for wasting everyone's time and bandwidth with their crap. The software that the author seemed to be pitching is about on par with the lame printshop stuff you can buy at WalMart... Just because your computer CAN make crappy little videos doesn't mean you SHOULD make crappy little videos. The content should dictate the medium, not the other way around.

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    2. Re:What utter pish! by Idarubicin · · Score: 1
      We want real news!

      Yes. Preferably, something about pancakes.

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  32. It's all about scanning... by peterdaly · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Video blogs will never catch on for the same reason people hate voicemail after using email. While it may be a more fully featured sensory experience, a major feature is lacking; Scanning.

    When I go to a web page, I can scan down it in a fraction of the time it would take to read the text. Voicemail and Video can't match that. Video can, if you are watching it for visual content instead of audio content. While you can "zzzzip" through messages on some voice mail systems, you still don't get what you could get from scanning a text message.

    With video blogs, you would be forced to either watch for as long as it took the author(?) to record it, or miss parts. That is part of the "killer app" of email and current blogs that video blogs can't shake a stick at.

    -Pete

    1. Re:It's all about scanning... by poot_rootbeer · · Score: 1

      Video blogs will never catch on for the same reason people hate voicemail after using email.

      "Television will never catch on for the same reason people hate the telephone after using the postal service."

      ???

  33. Don't think so on this one... by Mantrid · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Personally I'd rather read things like blogs and news websites than watch video or listen to audio. If you want to know why just play any of a number of video games or computer games where the dialogue track sounds like it was recorded by the programmers...most people just don't have that interesting a voice!

  34. Not if they're by geeks, no by avdi · · Score: 4, Insightful

    A lot of the comments I've seen so far have been to the effect of "how interesting can a geek on video be?" Probably not very, but consider the source of the article. It's worth noting that the article is by Glenn Reynolds, the most popular true blogger (as opposed to quasi-journalists like Drudge) on Earth. While he's certainly got a geek side - his "chief interest is in the intersection between advanced technologies and individual liberty", and he's been executive chairman of the National Space Society - he's a law professor, established commentator, and author. Tens of thousands of people visit his instapundit.com for his commentary on technology, culture, and politics news every day.

    This is the area where video blogs are likely to take off, for the same reason that standard weblogs shot up in popularity in the past two years. People are increasingly concerned with the state of international relations and public policy, and increasingly dissapointed in the established media's ability to keep up with events and to provide coverage that is compelling, insightful, and (perhaps most importantly), honest about it's bias. Many of these people have turned to weblogs to fill this information gap, and I think the same will be true of video blogs. I'd even venture to predict the possibility of the most popular video bloggers "going pro" - just like Reynolds when MSNBC offered him an online slot, perhaps we'll see major news networks give video bloggers space in their online, or maybe even broadcast, video feeds.

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    1. Re:Not if they're by geeks, no by awful · · Score: 1
      Somehow I don't think any major network will take feeds from video-bloggers. Have a look at your local news and work out why the stories they show are shown. Often the determining factor is footage ie. footage that interests viewers. This is why a 20 car pileup somewhere else where it really doesn't effect you gets such a prominent run, while a report about healthcare, or some even more obscure piece of legislation won't get run.

      There's no way networks would just take a feed of some blogger sitting in front of a camera sounding off about some_issue. It's just too boring.

      The only way it could happen would be for the bloggers to actually get out the door and start hunting down stories with the potential for good footage. And then they're not bloggers anymore - they're journalists.

  35. Repeat after me... by richieb · · Score: 2, Insightful
    ... Internet is not TV, Internet is not TV....

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    1. Re:Repeat after me... by broeman · · Score: 0

      ... Internet is not TV, Internet is not TV.... now, are you happy then?

      seriously, turning the Internet into a TV is again a step into the wrong direction. The idea of seeing a friendly face (like the news) is not relly fitting to the idea of the Internet, which is made for every opponion. Anonymity is encourage this, whereas people putting pictures of themselves into the public (without having too) is somehow sending a message. Humans are so superficial, it is a part of our genes.

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      (yes this can be compared with sex)
    2. Re:Repeat after me... by cranos · · Score: 1

      Nope Internet is not TV, Internet is like TV, print, radio and any other medium roled into one. It has the potential to replace TV, this is not a bad thing, instead of being restricted to just three of four channels (free to air) you could access the whole range from your normal vanilla media outlets to the extreme areas.

    3. Re:Repeat after me... by richieb · · Score: 1
      Internet is like TV, print, radio and any other medium roled into one.

      NO. Internet is not like any of those. Internet is fundamentally a communication network that allows people to talk to each other. Those other media are not.

      See, I'm "talking to you" right now. If you were Dan Rather and said that "Internet is like TV" on TV, what chance would *I* have to respond?

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    4. Re:Repeat after me... by cranos · · Score: 1

      Umm, I did actually say any other medium as well, that includes, letters, telephone, and any other sort of communication short of smoke signals.

      TV, radio and print are all forms of information distribution, and so is the internet, except the Internet allows anyone with a computer to distribute what information they like, and it also allows instant reaction to said information, as opposed to writing letters to the editor or ringing up the station and complaining that Dan Rather is a complete twonk.

      Sure the Internet, or at least the WWW component is more like print, given that most of the information is presented in a text format, and when designing pages we talk about above the fold and other newspapery/magaziny design terminology.

  36. Oh Really? by avdi · · Score: 5, Insightful

    instapundit.com (Glenn's original blog) has topped 200,000 daily visits on at least one occasion, and his readership is growing monthly. His fellow top-teir bloggers boast similar numbers. And they're just talking about boring ole' politics and such. "Millions" might still be a long way off, but I don't think it's all that farfetched.

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    1. Re:Oh Really? by angle_slam · · Score: 5, Interesting
      instapundit.com (Glenn's original blog) has topped 200,000 daily visits on at least one occasion, and his readership is growing monthly. His fellow top-teir bloggers boast similar numbers. And they're just talking about boring ole' politics and such.

      There is obviously a large market for political writing, which is why such blogs are so popular. You don't have to read the same columnists over and over again, as political blogs contain many new voices and links to all sorts of news stories. Instapundit.com mainly contains links to other stories. But check out all the links to other blogs on the left side of the page. You have some blogs, like USS Clueless, that present lengthy analysis of the upcoming war. In the legal world, a blog about appeallate law, How Appealling is among the most popular blogs, but there are many legal blogs (sometimes called blawgs), as you can see from the compilation on Bag & Baggage. The key to these blogs I listed above isn't necessarily the content (and none of them are "what I did today" type blogs), it is the links to other stories.

    2. Re:Oh Really? by Pejman64 · · Score: 1

      And they're just talking about boring ole' politics and such.

      A lot of us try to talk about things other than just "boring ole' politics," it should be pointed out. I am a lawyer and a politics junkie, and law and politics make up the majority of posts on my blog, but I also write a lot about chess, baroque, classical and romantic music, things that are going on in my family's ancestral country (Iran), and a variety of other issues. I just wanted to mention that to ensure that people don't just think that blogs are solely about politics and law.

    3. Re:Oh Really? by Pejman64 · · Score: 1

      Sorry about the double post. I didn't mean to be an "Anonymous Coward"--I thought that I was logged in. My bad. I shall go now and flog myself for punishment.

  37. drunk by richjoyce · · Score: 0

    The big problems have been setting up lights and a camera in my study properly, so that I don't look dead, or hung over

    What about when you _are_ hung over?

  38. Are Blogs of any Kind Worthwhile? by fastdecade · · Score: 1

    Regardless of whether video blogging technology is possible, how useful will it be? To answer that, I thnik the whole idea of blogs needs to be questioned.

    It might be fun to write blogs, but how many people are actually interested in them. Most blogs I see are just narcisistic capsules describing the innermost thoughts and feelings of some guy I don't know.

    The problem with blogs is they are unstructured --- if you want to make a website about goldfish, make one about goldfish with nice links and structure. Don't just keep appending news --- no-one will be interested in scanning through it all to derive some information about a particular topic.

    Video blogs make the situation worse --- searching is impossible and you'll end up with scores of media documents, once again about some average bloke's activities of the day.

    This is like those guys who strapped cameras (before they were "webcams") to their head in the mid-90s and transmitted every unexciting moment of their unexciting day as a mathematics graduate student, before people Jennycam et al realised there is only one type of "video blog" that will successfully captivate web users.

  39. Save Ferris by fuzzybunny · · Score: 3, Interesting


    I'm really surprised nobody has brought up Ferris Bueller so far. You know, all the scenes where he speaks to the camera?

    Frankly, I would differentiate between something like a personal web page or diary or whatever other exhibitionist crap someone wants to put up on the internet (gawd I hate the term 'blog') and the kind of infotainment we're talking about here.

    I see lots of parallels to public access TV. You could get some pretty quality, amusing and informative stuff (like someone reminding you that life moves pretty fast, so if you don't stop and look around every
    once in a while, life might just pass you by) but a large majority of random pointless drivel running about.

    Rant rant rant. And that didn't all just have a point...

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    1. Re:Save Ferris by s10god · · Score: 0

      Or Wayne's World or Bill and Ted's Exelent Adventure......

  40. It's not..... by chaeron · · Score: 1

    ...the lights or the camera setup that are at fault!

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    .....Andrzej

    Chaeron Corporation
  41. Metered Internet will kill this off eventually by EricLivingston · · Score: 3, Interesting

    As I think it's only a matter of time before we're all paying by the byte for bandwidth in one fashion or another, I also believe that stuff like video blogs and other low value/size ratio internet artifacts will go away as well (like banner ads and other graphics that will be aggressively filtered out once you've got to pay for each one you look at...)

    So, no, I don't think video blogs are the wave of the future...

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    1. Re:Metered Internet will kill this off eventually by vannevar · · Score: 1

      Nominated for the "Sad but Very Likely True of the Week" award.

  42. Advantages of video/voice? by moksliukas · · Score: 1

    Oh and what is so advantageous of a video blog? My reading is way faster than the blogger would talk and if anyone wants to put images or video showing something (a picture is worth 100k words, apparently), they can easily place a picture or a link.

    1. Re:Advantages of video/voice? by jonniesmokes · · Score: 1

      The intonations of spoken language and body language are some of the most powerful ways of communicating. Add that to the possibilities of mixing media along with your commentary and you get some very powerful communication tools.

      Emergency Broadcast Network never would've worked in a text only medium. Guerrilla News Network has the ability to really get their point accross as well as the giant network studios.

      Soon bandwidth will be even cheaper. And whether its text, audio, pictures, or video will be just a matter of choice.

      Blog away. The internet isn't just for porn anymore.

  43. Video blogs? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    Well, I know I like these fine ladies just plenty.

  44. What you need to get started by djupedal · · Score: 1
    1. Re:What you need to get started by turnstyle · · Score: 1
      Some people have started to use Andromeda for audio blogs. For instance, Xeni at BoingBoing is doing just that with the Blogoshpere conference audio (here and here).

      There's no reason why you couldn't do the same with video files.

      btw, I made Andromeda and if you're interested in trying this sort of thing, please let me know...

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      Here's what I do: Bitty Browser & Andromeda
  45. "Paid Articles" on news sites. by Boss,+Pointy+Haired · · Score: 1

    As others have said, this article is at best an advertisment for said video software.

    I hope Slashdot does not go down the same route. I have recently stopped reading The Register after a spate of blatent "Paid Articles".

  46. Blogs do not have to be interesting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They're just about seeing that other people live the same ordinary lifes as you do and have the same problems as you have. It's to make you feel better.

  47. do it yourself tv-show more like. by gl4ss · · Score: 1

    because that what it would be..

    boring webcams exist already.. so to be anything different from them these 'video blogs' would have to have something intresting-> be more like tv-show than just mumbling that you took a dump at wc..

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  48. Damn Andy Rooney by csguy314 · · Score: 1

    I freaking hate andy rooney. That old bastard did nothing but bitch about useless consumer products.
    He just reminds me of Abe Simpson wandering through a store...
    "Look at these army toys! They break the first time I step on them!" [crushing army toys under slipper]

    I used to watch 60min every week. I never watch it anymore.

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    This is left as an exercise for the reader.
  49. A Common Question by avdi · · Score: 1

    I see this a lot on Slashdot - "who reads blogs?". The people who ask apparently are only familiar with a few obscure blogs, and never bother to actually visit any major blogs and check their sitemeter stats. Here's a suggestion: before asking the question, check something like the Technorati Top 100. Take a look at the blogs listed there, the number of links into them, and their pageview stats (if they keep track of them). Then make up your own mind about whether anyone reads blogs. And who knows, maybe you'll find something there that actually interests you!

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    1. Re:A Common Question by angle_slam · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Right. Most comments here assume that blogging is mainly of the "what I ate for breakfast" category. But the author of the article is probably the most famous blogger in the world. But what does he blog about? Politics, mainly. Instapundit acts as a compilation of news stories and his comments about them.

      Is news blogging important? Ask Trent Lott. The news about his racist comments was small news on an AP wire that no major news organization covered. Instapundit covered it immediately (after being pointed to it by Josh Marshall, another blogger. IIRC, the comments were made on a Thursday. Instapundit was all over the story, calling for his ouster by Friday and Saturday, but the major news organizations didn't cover the story until Tuesday.

  50. Re:One more step toward the irrelevence of literac by Apotsy · · Score: 3, Funny
    GUI interfaces (which seem easier at first but are a pain to use to get anything serious done)

    Yeah, all serious graphic artists use the command line version of Photoshop.

  51. remember by infront314 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Maybe video blogs aren't ready for prime time quite yet, but remember the words from H.M. Warner at Warner Brothers in 1927:

    Who the hell wants to hear actors talk?

  52. I am the First video blogger by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As far as I know, I set up the first video blog ever. I hesitate to offer my dinky little DSL connection up to slashdotting, but here goes:
    http://ceicher.homeunix.com
    I've been in operation nearly 2 years. I run this off an ancient G3/400 Mac with Quicktime Streaming Server, and import video from nonDV sources (i.e. my TiVo) with a Canopus ADVC-1000. I've done many projects, like a week-long live broadcast showing me painting at my easel, but my main focus is on TV. I noticed bloggers are always commenting about "hey, did you see that thing on TV last night?" and I wanted to show a fair use clip rather than just hope people saw it and knew what I was talking about. Streaming allows me to claim Fair Use since I am rebroadcasting but not allowing copies to be downloaded.
    What gets me is the new wave of "video blogging" focusing around putting yourself online as a talking head. It's a huge waste of bandwidth. I can get someone's point in text a lot quicker than I can wait for them to stammer out their point live on video.

  53. The next Andy Rooney... by tmark · · Score: 1

    Is the next Andy Rooney-type commentator going to be a /.er?

    Maybe the first will be Internet "rock star" Jon Katz ? He is nearly as relevant as Rooney.

  54. Re:Nerds on TV-Bad "geek" day. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "His initial concern is for his appearance, doesn't sound like "news for nerds" to me.... "

    You're right. Nerds don't care for their apperance.

  55. Next at your service... by gmuslera · · Score: 1

    "Slashdot effect" for the masses. You only need to have a small community, far as big as Slashdot, and do it yourself Slashdot effect for vblog sites! Just point to them in your main page and measure your own popularity counting seconds before the other site get slashdotted (hey! you can even could say something like [my-own-site-name]ted, expanding english and popularity).

  56. Primetime by NudeZiggy · · Score: 1

    Just remember, most things that are in primetime are in reruns by the summer.

  57. Re:If it turns mainstream, can we have the bandwid by Sgs-Cruz · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Multicast protocols would help a lot with this... which means we really need IPv6. Currently most things like that are done as single point-to-point transmissions. With multicast, a 10-minute broadcast could be done every 10 minutes, and you'd just have turn it on at the beginning of those 10 minutes. To the broadcaster, it would only take the bandwidth of one person watching it every 10 minutes (by current standards). It's not the same as being able to start it whenever you want, but it's not as bad as TV where it is only broadcast once per day. The Itnernet could easily support that, even with current bandwidth limitations.

    Now whether people would watch some weird geek's video blog is another story :)

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  58. AUDIO & VIDEO BLOGS ARE KEWL? by zensmile · · Score: 1

    I just started to use the audio blog feature on blogger. It is still in the early stages of implementation, but seems to work. I told me girl friends about it and she thought it was silly. I told my buddy about it and he thought that it might have some good use for posting to his site to explain homework assignments for his students (he is a college level professor).

    The whole talking head aspect is interesting to show folks what you look like or to pan around the room while talking, but it isn't really that practical...other than for wow factor. But someone might really enjoy it and have a good reason to have it.

  59. Pictures yes, now how about sound? by Ashtead · · Score: 2, Funny
    One feature of the usual blogs, as websites in general, is that we have text and words there. However, if this became a video feed, we would have moving pictures, and most likely audio.

    Herein lies the rub. Imagine sitting at work during a break or some other time, and looking at somebodys full-media blog: "Hello my name is Ashtead and I have been eating peanutbutter and jelly sandwiches for breakfast ... "

    Sounding loud and clear over the cubicle farm.

    Besides, I tend to laugh when finding some funny web-page, and some of my colleagues already want to know why I am laughing for no apparent reason (to them anyways). Are they now having to wonder who all these other people in here are?

    There will be no more looking at and listening to these things at work anymore!

    Which could possibly be a good thing, considering ...

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    1. Re:Pictures yes, now how about sound? by hoggoth · · Score: 1

      > Sounding loud and clear over the cubicle farm [...] my colleagues [...] Are now having to wonder who all these other people in here are...

      Unless you work in an Amish cubicle-farm I doubt your colleagues are as clueless as you think they are.

      Other quotes to expect from your colleagues:
      "But how does this buggy run without a horse?!"
      "How did you get those little people inside the picture tube?"

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      - For the complete works of Shakespeare: cat /dev/random (may take some time)
  60. Geeks in Space by John+Harrison · · Score: 1
    The /. crew had its own audio blog/show, Geeks in Space. How long has it been since there was a new installment? I think that laziness is probably the biggest obstacle preventing more production.

    On the other hand not only was it not convinient to make, but it wasn't convinient to listen to either. For me it is really hard to listen to Geeks in Space while working. I end up paying to much attention to the show. Also, you can't just run through it really fast like a blog. So it seems the format is inconvinient on both ends.

    1. Re:Geeks in Space by Dossy · · Score: 1


      Speaking of audio blog/shows ... it's sad that with so many mock-worthy events happening in the recent media that no young group of talented people have gotten together to do something ala The Goon Show.

      I think a modernized version of The Goon Show, as an audio-only webcast ... could really become big.

      -- Dossy

    2. Re:Geeks in Space by krow · · Score: 1

      For a while the group who was doing it was scattered around the country so they really were not in the same place at the same time to do it.

      Right now it is just a matter of priorities (aka getting it setup).

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  61. missing the picture by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    i think we're missing the picture here -

    Video Weblogs dont just have to be video of geeks droning on. They dont have to be huge clips of video we're forced to watch to gleen a few moments or info.

    We need to think of video weblogs (and since vlog is shorter, I'll use that) in the same light we do photo blogs and regular ole' text blogs - they need to be edited. Editing is more than just remebering to turn the camera on and off every now and then. Editing is a visual syntax that has been developed for the last 100 years or so by filmmakers and now the more digitally minded . Its techniques are available to anyone willing to give it a try. brad @ joeuser.com edited a little clip last december as a response to the instapundit and others on the vlogging bandwagon and even though he disagrees with vlogging - his response was really well done and damn funny!

    We need better standardized methods for index the video, so that its possible to find the bit you want (sure its doable, we just need to make it easier). remember metadata? why arent we applying it to these video clips? Just because the video players we're using on our computers mature enough yet or be using correctly to make vlogging more credible, doesnt mean the whole idea should be abandoned.

    alright, i'm done, now some snarky shit gets to tell me how stupid i am ;-)

    hi to john and any ex-DELO (go on, you know who you are)

  62. Incorrect figures by Washizu · · Score: 1

    "The current rates for bandwidth at this scale are about $1/GB of transfer"

    I host my site at ipowerweb and their rates are $7.95/month for 30GB of traffic. That's about $0.27 per GB of data, not $1 as you claim. If your other figures are accurate, you can have 1000 daily visitors on a video blog for $96 a year.

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    1. Re:Incorrect figures by DeadSea · · Score: 1

      ipowerweb is a great bandwidth deal. That throws off my calculations by a little bit but only so much. I also don't think that you can get a 10 minute video blog into 1 MB. Somebody else want to prove me wrong?

    2. Re:Incorrect figures by Washizu · · Score: 1

      I think bandwidth costs have actually come down a little bit in the last year.

      Not to sound like a commercial, but ipowerweb's features aren't too bad either. PHP, Perl, MySQL, daily generated stats, etc.

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    3. Re:Incorrect figures by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      But NO SSH login, so no deal.

      I can't stand managing my websites via FTP or web "control panels" only.

  63. Re:One more step toward the irrelevence of literac by KingJoshi · · Score: 1

    Tell me, what's the value of literacy? Why is writing considered important? I thought it was because it was the best way to accurately store information from one generation to the next. Also, with printing presses, it's easier to pass along to others in larger quantities.

    I can't see written language going away anytime soon, but if we have technology that can preserve and pass on information better, what the hell is the problem of using it to it's full extent?

    If I can be in the Kitchen and cook and completely control the computer through voice interaction (open browser, go to slashdot, tell me the headlines, read article from link, etc..) and not be forced to be in from of a monitor, that's a bad thing?

    If NLP advances and machines can translate languages and to speech synthesis better and I can listen to Russian stories without learning Russian, that's a bad thing?

    If my family on the other side of the world (yes, people move around more, especially for education) cant find time to communicate because of different schedules but they can leave video messages for me, that's a bad thing?

    If kids that can't read yet can interact with the computer to learn to read or gain knowledge because of a good GUI, that's a bad thing?

    Maybe I missed the point of your post. Maybe you need to learn that not all change is bad.

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    In times like these, it is helpful to remember that there have always been times like these. - Paul Harvey
  64. P2P Video Blogging by Orasis · · Score: 1
    If you're going to be video blogging, I would highly recommend checking out the Open Content Network which provides P2P distribution of web sites.


    The Internet Archive currently uses it for distributing live concert recordings, so it should work great for video too.

  65. Re:One more step toward the irrelevence of literac by stubear · · Score: 1

    "...(which seem easier at first but are a pain to use to get anything serious done)."

    You're right. Can I have my next version of Photoshop in CLI mode only please? Using the mouse to design graphics is much harder than hand coding colors and pixel coordinates.

  66. The Big Problems ? by DJ+FirBee · · Score: 1

    //'The big problems have been setting up lights and a camera in my study properly, so that I don't look dead, or hung over.'"//

    I really really doubt that these are your biggest problems with doing journalist reporting properly. Do try to keep in mind that there is an entire culture to news reporting that has grown in it's own studios for decades.

    It does take skill to deliver the news properly. I remember working at Cisco and seeing the terrible talking head video on demand and crappy IOS update talk shows. They delivered information but looked completely clueless.

    If you are going to do this study up first. Please?

  67. MPEG4 streaming and Manilla content management! by oscast · · Score: 1

    We had the EXACT same idea and created a boadcast blog... but instead of video, we chose to use streaming MPEG4 audio. For content management, we use manilla.

    The end result is a very refined, web radio show.

    We got the company that hosts our portal to offer MPEG4 streaming AND Manilla hosting packages that will allow you to create your own radio or television web log very easily and with little training... not to mention for a a REALLY decent price. If you're interested in doing any of this, you should check it out.

  68. Not with out the UPSTREAM bandwidth by vannevar · · Score: 1

    MSNBC is a retard. Along with AOL, the MPAA, etc., they're doing all they can to kill the Internet as anything other than a click-NOW-to-buy network.

    Re-read Death From Above ... still the most salient and accurate prophecy ever written about the commercialization of the Internet.

  69. Great for hot chicks by Junks+Jerzey · · Score: 1

    less so for awkward geeks...or pretty much anyone who isn't a hot chick.

  70. Why would I want that? by forgoil · · Score: 1

    Why would I want to listen and watch, when I could read instead? It is quiet, nobody around me will be disturbed. I can read faster than most people talk, and it is never unclear. I can paste a part of it to someone else, or I can print it.

    What is this obsession with movie media? I have already abandon the TV news since text on the internet is easier to digest for me. I can ignore the stories that don't interest me, and I can read whatever I'm interested in.

  71. not ready for prime-time? by lost_packet · · Score: 2, Insightful

    To all the people that are saying it's not feasible to run a video blog because the cost of bandwidth is too much or most people don't have the necessary bandwidth available, you need to rub both of your braincells together just a little faster:

    use p2p.

    A text blog can still be maintained, and the video could be made available there, whether it's streamed or a downloadable binary. You could even provide a transcript. But produce the video and release on a p2p network or three. Out of the 60 million people on kazaa, someone's likely to be interested, right?

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  72. Re:One more step toward the irrelevence of literac by NoInfo · · Score: 1

    His whole point is that things like Photoshop (and the graphics created by it) should go away.

    It should all be text (or maybe ascii art-- he's not as clear on his stance here).

  73. Comparison- SF to geek by Graspee_Leemoor · · Score: 1

    As someone already mentioned- p2p is the way to distribute stuff like this. I was thinking of actually using edonkey links on a web page that pointed to the video sequences. If at least I keep my vblogs (catcchy) shared, then people should be ablo to get them eventually.

    What I fear is that many of these vblogs would end up like one of those sequeneces off SF shows where the heroes review the last few log entries on some space station or whatever in order to understand "what happened here", except they will be far more boring...

    Final Log Entries SF version:

    "September 21st. I have been experimenting on the strange samples Dr. Weisman brought back from the crater. They seem to have some strange properties- more work is needed.

    September 23rd. I don't know how to say this, but it seems as if the samples are multiplying- not just with time, but almost as if my observing them causes them to thrive. I can't really believe the test results- nothing like this has ever been seen before.

    September 26th. The samples are speaking to me! They now form a mass approximately 4 feet high! I have been keeping my findings from the other scientists for fear of alarming them.

    September 27th. 'Bob' (my name for the sample-mass, which is now 7 feet tall) has killed Dr. Weisman. I fear I may be next as Bob is becoming difficult to reason with. His constant claim that humanity is 'a bunch of lamers who deserve death' unnerves me."

    Final Log Entries Geek version:

    'April 3rd. I had this really great idea to build a model of the Tokyo Tower out of lego. I have downloaded the specs from the net and worked out how many bricks I need. Now I am saving up to buy them.

    April 4th. I got bored of waiting until I had saved up, so I used my mom's credit card to order the bricks. I'll work out how to tell how I've borrowed the money later. Now to wait for my bricks!

    April 17th. My bricks finally arrived! Mom was a little suspicicous when she answered the door to the package guy, but I told her I had taken advantage of an offer on paperclips from the internet.

    April 28th. My Tokyo Tower is nearlly complete! I have had to ban my mom from my room so she doesn't see it. It reaches nearly to the ceiling- check it out!

    March 5th. Horror! Mom got her credit card bill and went insane! She came up to my room and stomped all over the Tokyo Tower- it was like something out of Godzilla. I have been banned from the internet so this will be my last log."

    graspee

    1. Re:Comparison- SF to geek by Graspee_Leemoor · · Score: 1

      OK so I got March and April the wrong way round in the geek log. Just thought I'd point that out before anyone else did their "so geeks travel backwards through time" posts...

      graspee

  74. Is a video blog even still a blog? by CashCarSTAR · · Score: 1

    Isn't a blog technically a frequently updated page mostly consisting of links and a bit of personal spin? How could you do that on video?

    That said...

    There might be something for giving some of these commentators a more vocal voice. The NOW thing in blogging is politics and social commentary. The blog format is great for it, and in fact, it pretty much changes everything. Little obsucure stories that might otherwise be glossed over, if they are important and engaging enough, are suddenly thrust into the mainstream eye. They change everything. Joshua Micah Marshell, Atrios, Brad DeLong, even Glenn Reynolds, it is rather amazing the amount of data and stories that are analyzed and released in a nicely cooked format. Not to mention that the skills of the average blogger are far and away far above those talking heads on TV, who forget what it is like being in the trenches.

    Again, that said, do not expect to see video blogs for the longest time. The father of political blogging, as far as I am concerned, Bartcop is just getting into a radio format, let alone video. As well, the closest thing currently to this is the Joey Joe Joe Show. Actually, I remember this old show, "Does Humor Belong In Technology", that may have been a perfect example of an audio blog. A live shoutcast done with IRC live feed back. dhbit.ca it seems. No longer a radio show, more like a small Slash style site. That may have been the first. It was damn good too. Too bad they stopped doing shows.

  75. Destined to Fail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    TV personalities have to generally be attractive, and if not, at least have decent personal hygeine, which pretty much precludes any of you jokers from gaining mainstream popularity. Given, also, your lack of sense of humor and tendancy to take yourselves far too seriously, I fully expect some yutz to respond to this with flames, meta-discussion, and examples of ugly, un-hygenic people in popular culture. Anything to make me wrong.

  76. Actually this sounds like a great idea.... by zaqattack911 · · Score: 1

    IF you're THAT VAIN

  77. the problem isn't the price... by minitrue · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Video blogging isn't that bad of an idea. Even if you made a short 5-minute realvideo clip each day and streamed it from your standard HTTP server, it would only take up 5-10 MB of space, ISP transfer costs aside.

    To me, the real problems with video blogging have to do with the nature of video (and not the problem of bandwidth.)

    [1] Text is random access which means that as a reader, i can scan through someone's text blog and read it as fast or as slow as i wish, and instantly skip the parts I don't want to read. Video is linear which means that in order to consume the ideas presented, you have to scan audio, text, and images in order even if you don't want to.

    [2] While it will take you ten minutes to produce a compelling text paragraph with links and some light editing before you post, It takes exponentially more time to create the equivalent video "paragraph." And adding graphics and links within a text layer of a quicktime movie is really really advanced stuff. It's not the kind of stuff I see most people doing anytime soon.

    That is why I'm a lot more excited by things like the WiFi2TV project that plugs the functionality of the internet into an existing video network. Although that also presents a number of problems. We'll have to see how that one goes.

  78. Re:One more step toward the irrelevence of literac by broeman · · Score: 0

    now, that is X Free! *cough* 86

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  79. A Better Question... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...is the world ready for me to start going postal if I am forced to hear or read this obnoxious word, "blog" any more?

  80. Re:Screw Blogs they are boring by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Thank you. Thank you. And i'm not psychic. They just stole my idea :)

  81. Re:One more step toward the irrelevence of literac by macthulhu · · Score: 1

    I'm looking forward to trying out voice recognition with Photoshop... I can already feel the key sized dents in my forehead starting to form after trying to verbally describe an operation with the lasso tool. After more than 20 years of computer use, I guess it's time I did something "serious"... I keep forgetting that code monkeys are the only people whose work on computers rises to the level of "serious". That's a bit like suggesting that the only people who can make serious use of a car are mechanics. Honestly, sometimes I'm ashamed to be a geek.

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  82. Re:One more step toward the irrelevence of literac by cindik · · Score: 1

    No, sorry, I was overgeneralizing. I was thinking in terms of using the OS. I prefer shells, etc. Of course stuff that requires graphics works better with a graphical interface.

    But that was not my point. My point was that reading and writing seem to be going the same direction as basic math skills.

  83. Re:One more step toward the irrelevence of literac by cindik · · Score: 1

    I suppose it will be no big deal that the only material available to the growing illiteratti will either be new spoken or older stuff that the literate choose to offer. After all, their ability to read and write should give them the authority to choose material for people.

    Hey, that's what the Church used to do!

    Or at least that's what I read.

  84. Video-Blogging Software for Linux or Mac OS X? by trauring · · Score: 2, Informative

    Serious Magic's software is really amazing, but is Windows-only. It relies on DirectX and DirectShow to work, so it is unlikely it will be ported to other platforms (and they say such on their web site).

    Does anyone know of other software out there with similar features, that works on Linux or Mac OS X?

    Some of it's very cool features:

    - on-screen teleprompter
    - real-time green-screen compositing
    - cable news-style overlay text/graphics

    I haven't found anything similar out there.

  85. .plan files. by mfh · · Score: 2, Informative

    The concept of blogging isn't new, by any means. It's basically the UNIX finger service adapted for mass use on the web/AIM/whatever. There were even finger-to-web CGI scripts in 1995 that accomplished this same exact thing. Hell, I even wrote one of them for my personal use.

    Remember John Carmack's (of id software fame) .plan files? Back at the height of Quake I/II/III development, I would suspect that the number of requests to his .plan files approached 100,000 a day. Many other notable people in the gaming industry had similar setups.

    I suppose it's really a catch-22, since famous/notable people generally do not share personal information on the internet. But that's exactly what it would take to generate a substantial volume of hits/reads per day.

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  86. Surely this will raise the quality of news... NOT by cryptochrome · · Score: 1

    Wow, just what the American "news" scene needs - more punditry and even less time for reporting.

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  87. The Light of Other Days by lucasw · · Score: 1

    Ever read "The Light of Other Days" by Stephen Baxter and Arthur C. Clark?

    yes

    Instead of Big Brother we get gazillions of networked Little Brothers

    The million little brothers have a lot of decentralized and unsearchable low quality videos that'll probably be deleted sooner than not. Facial recognition and similar tech will be of age around the same time it'll possible to fabricate the same quality video with 3D animation software for less expenditure in resources. Not to say that the two will balance out...

    1. Re:The Light of Other Days by Saeger · · Score: 1
      Facial recognition and similar tech will be of age around the same time it'll possible to fabricate the same quality video with 3D animation software for less expenditure in resources.

      So you're saying that since it will be possible for Joe Sixpack to forge anyone's presence in video, that facial recognition won't be trusted? What if the video was "digitally signed" by evil DRM hardware? :)

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    2. Re:The Light of Other Days by lucasw · · Score: 1

      >>Facial recognition and similar tech will be of age around the same time it'll possible to fabricate the same quality video with 3D animation software for less expenditure in resources.

      > So you're saying that since it will be possible for Joe Sixpack to forge anyone's presence in video, that facial recognition won't be trusted? What if the video was "digitally signed" by evil DRM hardware? :)

      I think easy forgery will muddy the waters, at the very least.

      Traditional news networks should probably digitally sign their own content starting at the source with the camera and microphone (in combination with reporter signatures) if they want to maintain internal credibility (while still retaining the ability to forge their own footage, they at least wouldn't want to be manipulated by anyone anonymously submitting footage or altering their own broadcasts in transmission).

      Individuals who want to acquire and distribute footage of their own would want to sign it with their own personal signature and work towards establishing credibility for themselves. There could be tons of people with zero credibility producing a lot of forged or real content with no signatures, and their presence would add value to trustworthy organizations and individuals.

      Uncracked 'Evil DRM' signatures would ascertain that particular hardware actually recorded the signed image, but everything on the other side of the lens and DRM is in the 'Analog Hole'. In other words, forge the footage, and then point your signed camera at the display. Though the display or 3D software may be introducing watermarks...

      It still comes down to traditional large organizations with the resources to acquire their own data directly or the newer webs of trust (which in effect will just be a different kind of large organization, though composed of volunteers). There's significant barriers to entry both ways, keeping out most of the 'little brother' hordes.

      The likely net effect- many people will lose privacy over all, but escape hatches will exist for people who highly value their privacy. Privacy is kind of a separate issue but overlapping issue to credibility, though...

      This is an extremely fertile topic, so probably I should stop before I reinvent what others have already worked out in greater detail, or end up saying the exact opposite of what I started out saying.

  88. vblog: killer app for IPv6? by sleepingsquirrel · · Score: 1

    Vblogs sound like a good match for multicasting, where you distribute your video every hour on the hour, instead of whenever a user just happens to drop by. If video blogging is the killer app which jumpstarts the demand for IPv6 (and multicasting), I'm all for it.

  89. Advertising & vlogging by shaper+diaz · · Score: 1

    the debate so far of linear vs scanning sort of touches on the concept of push vs pull media . the good thing w/ text blogs being that one can pull down whatever you want & skip the fodder. but...

    blogs are starting to be abused by advertsiers -- see the Raging Cow ad campaign here and here. And this is only going to get worse with vlogs -- as blogs shift from pull to push.

  90. Simple on a consumer Mac by jo_ham · · Score: 1

    It would be easy to do this on any firewire equipped Mac (pretty much everything), even in OS9.

    All the tools you need come free with the OS - iMovie and umm... that's it.

    Hook up your firewire (IE1394/iLink) MiniDV camera to your Mac, click "capture" and you're away.

    You can edit, title, mess, add music and the exporting options are excellent.

    It took my humble 600MHz iBook 45 minutes to encode a 3 minute video file in Quicktime (H.263 codec, u-law sound), so something with a bit more oomph (say, a powerbook) would cut this in half or more.

    You can export to DV tape for home archive, and even encode at different rates to suit your audience. All you need is a broadband connection and a fair bit of space for hosting, plus a generous monthly bandwith allotment depending on how popular you get.

    You could put up each video with a quick html file that contains keywords and info on the content to aid in cataloging and searching.

    I agree, the content provision is difficult given the non-trivial cost of bandwidth, but I can see it happening.

    1. Re:Simple on a consumer Mac by PyroMosh · · Score: 1

      Once again, people deciede to miss the point.

      I have a Firewire equiped PC and a DV Cam. Yeah, I can do this just as easily. I have the added step of having to launch my favorite capture program before I hit the capture button. Perhaps you can educate me, but I realy, realy don't see what makes a Mac better than a PC for graphics and dv editing. People always go on about how easy it is, but it's easy on the PC too.

      But this is all besides the point. PC OR Mac, it's not easier than HTML, and, I'm sure the idiot BLOG programs that I see everywhere make it even simpler. It takes seconds to update with text. I don't have to render a video stream. I don't have to do any editing beyond proofreading, and spellchecking. Upload is near instant. Download is too. And people can read it at their liesure. What advantage does video bring to the table? A bit of cool factor and loss of the ability to search, browse, etc. It's still easier for me to look in the index of a book than it is to look for a specific point in a DVD, even if I've seen it before. Yeah, there's technology that can catalog speach, etc. It's quite imperfect, and again, we're missing the point, even if they were 100%, what do I get out of the massive drive space, processor power, DB space, and everything else involved that makes this superior to text?

      This is like an online Rube Goldberg Machine. I just don't get the point.

  91. Internet's strength is VOD by benwaggoner · · Score: 1

    Yeah, but having to tune into someone else's schedule is contrary to the whole point of the internet.

    I suppose you could have a system where you could flag a Blog for caching, and it'd assemble the thing and let you know when it's done, ala TiVo. Then maybe have a daily multicast of each blog. But then you'd have to pick your blogs in advance.

    As someone who works full-time in compressed video delivery technologies, video Blogs seem like a solution in search of a problem.

  92. Slashdot is just a community blog... by Out4Blood · · Score: 1

    ...with multiple contributors rather than just one, like Instapundit. It's not much different from BoingBoing. Slashdot just has a much more active comments section.

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  93. Ummm by cranos · · Score: 1

    Does anybody else get an article about some guy getting kicked out of a mall for wearing a peace shirt instead of the vblogging as promised?

  94. Re:If it turns mainstream, can we have the bandwid by unitron · · Score: 1
    "A million people are going to watch some no-brain spout his pointless opinions?"

    Already happening. FoxNews, MSNBC, et cetera.

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  95. Video not as personal by dracocat · · Score: 1

    The reason blogs are so interesting to read for many people, is that they feel a little private. Granted they are written for a public audience, but when you read them, you feel as if you are glimpsing into somebody elses private journal. So, untill video journals are around, I doubt you will see too much interest in a video blog.

    Secondly, can somebody tell me how to pronounce blog? I hate the sound of 'blog', so I always pronounce it as a b-log, but then nobody can understand me. Is it really pronouced 'blog'? What a stupid sounding word.



    (blog definition taken from my friend's blog.)

  96. Not kill it, turn it into television... by aquarian · · Score: 1

    MSNBC is a retard. Along with AOL, the MPAA, etc., they're doing all they can to kill the Internet as anything other than a click-NOW-to-buy network.

    Yup, they're retarded, but they're not trying to kill the web -- they're trying to turn it into television -- the only thing they understand.

  97. Sorry, dude, your site is absolute drivel... by aquarian · · Score: 1

    Just more corporate marketroid brochure babble. Spare us.

  98. video blogs: vogs (2 years worth) by adrian.miles · · Score: 1

    I've been video blogging for 2 years. the manifesto is at
    http://hypertext.rmit.edu.au/vog/manifesto/ and the vogs are at
    http://hypertext.rmit.edu.au/vog/ and part one of a tutorial (which also explains a bit about why video one a web page on a regular basis is not really a video blog but just tv) is at
    http://hypertext.rmit.edu.au/vog/desktopvogging/de sktopvogging.html everything requires a decent install of quicktime, version 5 or better. most of the issues raised in this thread are moot.

  99. Re:One more step toward the irrelevence of literac by WWWWolf · · Score: 1
    Yeah, all serious graphic artists use the command line version of Photoshop.

    I know you're kidding, but it depends on how we define "serious".

    If "serious" is "Make a good-looking picture", definitely, pick Photoshop or GIMP or whatever.

    If "serious" would be "Convert 1258 images to JPEG and generate thumbnails for them", I wouldn't hesitate to pick ImageMagick (which is a command-line tool).

    Again, let's pick the right tool for the job. =)

  100. Re:One more step toward the irrelevence of literac by Apotsy · · Score: 1

    Well, of COURSE I'm kidding. Jeez, it really sucks when you have to explain the joke to people. I was trying to illustrate the absurdity of the parent post's blanket statement. I guess I failed.

  101. Video Blogging Tool by schoettle · · Score: 1

    This tool was just released for this purpose exactly. All you need is a webcam and microphone and you can create, save and send these messages. http://www.userplane.com/apps/videoRecorder.cfm