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Tiny Little Computer
Ethereal writes "This is probably one of the smallest computers available. It's roughly the size of a mouse!
Specs:
Processor:Intel Celeron 733 or Celeron 800
Format Mini-Book PC (All-in-One Solution);
Size: 157 x 146 x 45 mm;
Weight: 950g;
Mem:64MB SDRAM DIMM PC100 City Desk;
Motherboard Chipset Intel i810, UDMA66;
HD: 10GB IDE UDMA66;
Video: VGA Embedded i810 (S-Video & Composite);
CD-ROM 40x Slim;
Network: Embedded 10/100Mbps (RJ-45 Port);
Sound: SB Compatible Embedded (Line Out, Mic In);
Embedded Fax-Modem 56Kbps V.90 (RJ-11 Port); " Well, maybe not that small, but a twiddler and some sort of video unit and this sucker could be a wearable. I wish it had some wireless instead of a modem tho.
it cannot even be linked to!
I just found this last Friday. They also have the "espresso" pocket PC which may or may not have been on /. previously. It is even smaller!
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I was impressed with the features of both, but the price is a little steep. I think that a straight MicroATX BookPC is a better deal. Unicomp has two nice BookPC cases for the similarly budget minded.
http://www.unicomplabs.com/parts/main.asp?Catagor
Now, I just have to bring myself to buy a PC Chips motherboard. Anyone have recommendations for a P3 or Athlon MicroATX motherboard with integrated Video, 100 Mbps, sound with working Xservers and Linux drivers?
You're right. A PC without Linux on it wouldn't be useful to anyone.
I was being sarcastic, but thanks for the link.
Put e-smith on it. It's got almost everything you mentioned above, plus lots more.
It's the most dead-simple Linux server install that I have found.
It can be totally administered via a web interface. Plus you can telnet or SSH to it.
It ships with Apache/PHP/MySQL out of the box.
I've got it running here: rawtruth.net on my DSL circuit.
e-smith.org
Here's a link to something that looks remarkably similar in english: Cappucino PC
Browsing around on the site I came across the Espresso (which has been on slashdot before) which is actuall smaller than the Cappucino G1 ... it's 6" x 4" x 1.25".
Here you go: Espresso Pocket PC
OK, this isn't news. This machine (Cappuchino), and it's little brother the Espresso, have been mentioned half a dozen times going back to last April.
They're made by Saintsong in Taiwan, and the easiest place to get them in the states is iBuyPower.
ObLinux: iBuyPower builds these to order, and you can get them without an OS, including a $75 credit for the Windows Tax.
Even though this is old news, they' are very cool. I have a dozen Celeron 533 Espressos that I use to run slideshow presentations at trade shows, and it's incredibly cool to be able to a) carry 12 machines in a briefcase, and b) literally duct tape them to the wall behind the monitor. (we usually use flat-panels)
-Zandr
You have violated Robot's Rules of Order and will be asked to leave the future immediately.
you'd think CT could code up a perl module that would check the links for him.
-tduff
Man, even with a broken link, the site is already feeling the toils of the slashdot effect. It came up like a dog. :)
:)
I ran the page through babelfish. What I'm interested in is this point under "Características Gerais":
* Acesso grátis ilimitado à Internet.
Can anybody who can actually read the page tell me what that's supposed to mean?
Babelfish translates it to:
* Limitless Acesso grÃtis à Internet.
Which really isn't all that helpful. It sounds like "Unlimited Internet Access". Are they bundling Internet service with this thing or something?
Also note this: above the diagrams, it says on the original page:
1 ANO DE GARANTIA
Babelfish translates it to:
1 ANUS OF GARANTIA
Hmm...
"One anus of WHAT?!?!"
- Ed.
And before anybody accuses me of being a *dumb* American, I'm just an inobservant one - I realize that they speak portugese in Portugal... I didn't notice the domain, and the two languages look similar, so I thought it was an Italian site. (Hey, I can tell the difference between Spanish and Italian, between Chinese and Japanese, etc... I just haven't seen enough portugese to be familiar with it, and thought it was italian).
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"$30 for the One True Ring. $10 each additional ring!" -- JRR "Bob" Tolkien
My original post: "Much nicer (IMHO) boxes are the Expresso and Cappuccino from SaintSong. Find them here: http://www.saintsong.com.tw/english.htm . Having seen these in action, they would be great for conventions so you just have to drag around either a projector or a LCD monitor plus something about the size of an old school WalkMan."
Now, having looked at the SaintSong site again, I realize: HEY! This thing is a repackaged Cappuccino!
So, if you want an italian version, get this. If you want it from the source, get a Cappuccino or Expresso (same, but without optical drive) from SaintSong.
And, yes... Slashdot has reviewed these before.
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Evan
"$30 for the One True Ring. $10 each additional ring!" -- JRR "Bob" Tolkien
It looks like exactly the same thing.
Kevin Fox
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In the UK there is a company called
Pangolinsmallcomputers.co.uk that sells them. Or atleast their advert in Linux User says so...
Will
per mere, per terras
There is a product that is distributed throught Mynix (see http://www.mynix.com ) in Canada... it is called e-space. Nearly the same size but you can get a PIII 850 in it... see http://www.mynix.com/espace/index.html for more details.
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Also interesting on this page is this bit:
SUPPORT WINDOWS98/ME/2000/NT AND LINUX
load "linux",8,1
the link is broken for me
Or you can buy my Espresso, which just happens to be on auction at Amazon right now. ;-) Yeah, shameless plug, but I need cash!
The last time this was posted I remember that every single reply was about how this had already been posted... And to think I go excited for a second... until I recognized it as I would hope any editor would, dosn't anyone read slashdot anymore?
Can anyone figure out the price, or who to contact to get one of these cuties?
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Yes, at the moment you got these everywhere on advertising bills in the corridors of the subway in Paris with the title : "Le plus petit PC du monde !".
One way might be to use HTML::LinkExtor and LWP::Simple using fork() with timeout on the LWP::Simple get() calls due to large files and the like.
Seastead this.
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Artix
Your Linux, your init.
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Your Linux, your init.
http://www.cappuccinopc.com/:
//global.asa, line 20
/Default.asp, line 87
Provider error '80004005'
Unspecified error
Or after ten retries....
Provider error '80004005'
Unspecified error
Hope that's not one of their Cappuccino PCs being used as their web server....
Computer, 50g
900g, heat sink.
This might be wearable north of the arctic circle, yuck-yuck.
Qué?
ano=anus
año=year
that's all.
El Karma: excelente(principalmente la suma de moderación hecha a los comentarios de los usuarios)
Check out http://www.unicomplabs.com/spacesaving/cappuccinop c.asp for a closer look at a similar product. All the text is in English too.
However there is one problem however. My website is unable to be reached! Why did Slashbot rape the webserver of Mr Ezgo? Is most rude. Perhaps because you are the hackers you have are hacked the webserver of Mr Ezgo?!! :-)))) Now now childs that is not nice! ;-)!!!!@!
So thank you for the link!! To CITY DESK COMPUTING SUPERSMALL!!! Teh WAY OF THE FUTURE!!!
Mr Ezgo
City Desk GmbH
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- Celerons are "cool" anymore. Get an Athlon -- they're faster, easier to overclock, and will cost about the same.
- Where will you put the GeForce? What, you're going to game on some lamer integrated video (probably made by ATI) instead? Get to the back of the line.
- Laptop CD-ROMs are generally slow. When you have to illegally install twelve copies of Quake III before things can get started, slow CD-ROMs are a no-no.
- Even the dumbest gamer would understand that this is custom kit and you won't just be able to wander your dumb self down to CompUSA and ask for a 5" mainboard. "But I'm a GAMER!! And I'm l337!! Really!" Nope, sorry son.
I really don't get you people. You have nothing to say and an uncontrollable desire to post. You'd be better off in the UF groupie/newbie forum where such drivel is applauded with responses of "lolll!!@! u R so k3wl!!".It's also sort of sad that people feel that they can contribute to technology discussions just by mentioning games. Some dude around here has a sig along the lines of "I thought you had to study science in order to be a geek, but these days you just have to play games." The more time that passes, the more I identify with that statement.
FONS, "avtr".
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(My, and it was so blantant, too. I've really outdone myself -- I probably wasted a half-hour of your time with that reply!)
Heh...
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That's Spanish. In Portuguese, "ano" == "year".
This applies to most other computer terms.
According to the Michaelis dictionary, "rato" or "rato doméstico" belongs to the genus "Rattus", although some species of "Mus" are also called "rato". "Camundongo" is a small rodent, gender "Mus". According to webster, "rat" belongs to genus "Rattus" and "mouse" to "Mus". Finally, "ratazana" is a just a big rat or a female rat.
Actually, they didn't lie. :-) The page says "praticamente do tamanho do seu rato", which means "almost the size of your mouse".
But, taking the word "rato" to the other meaning (the animal), generally in portuguese there's no distinction between rat and mouse, "rato" being used in both situations. So... (g)
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About 10+ years ago I worked for the Russian cosmic agency and we had some russian clones of 8086 PC XT, equipped with original russian mouses. Well, it had steel ball about 5 cm in diameter, cable was about 1 cm tick, the mouse size was about 20 cm long and its weight was about 1 kG (or 2 pounds). Well, probably, it was designed for some special military purposes :)
Because of the size, we called it "rat", not mouse.
Starts at $939.00.
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I dug http://www.citydesk.pt/produto_ezgo.htm out of the page source.
Unfortunatly it appears to be available only with Microsoft Windows 2000 or Windows Millenium, and the hardware specification is limited so I can't tell if you can even install Linux on it.
Unlike the Tardis which I believe has a Linux option. The only problem with that is that I'm waiting to see if the BBC will stamp down on the name.
Seriously, this things looks awesome. It's small, has a great processor/etc, and you could fit a server farm in a fridge! The only real problem is the lack of any kind of ethernet. Yes, you could use the USB port and a dongle to get one but still, I think it should be built in. Or an option between that and the modem (modems are pase anyway!). This would make a perfect bookshelf MP3 player. It's got sound and with the S-Video out you could put the playlist/visualsations on your TV. You could also use it to watch streaming video on your TV. I can think of lots of great stuff this could be used for. To find out, send me some and I'll come up with interesting uses for them! The address is...
Comment forecast: Bits of genius surrounded by a sea of mediocrity.
The whole idea is to have two or three dash mounted buttons to mark the current location for review, enough RAM to store the raw location data, a serial hookup to up/download location and config data, and a hookup to the cellphone input of my car radio, to gently remind me when I enter a reduced speed highway and not so gently remind me when I come close to a known speed trap.
It shouldn't be rocket science, but I've yet found a board that takes just a single 12V. Of course, I could just mount a laptop, but the hassle of unhooking the thing all the time to avoid the car being ripped open doesn't sound too exciting to me...
Bert Driehuis -- All I asked was a friggin' rotatin' chair. Throw me a bone here, people.
enjoy.
When teaching intro to computer courses I like to hold up a mouse by the cord, dangling between two fingers, and ask the class:
"Why do you think this is called a mouse?"
Invariably someone will answer brightly," Cause it kinda looks like one."
To which I can reply, " No, actually it looks like a rat, but that isn't cute and cudly and wouldn't sell as well."
KFG
I've seen one of the Espresso models (under what name I can't remember). I don't remember too much about it except that it was pretty good at doing its job.
I don't know what I think about these systems, though. They're great vertical-market units -- presentations, control systems, that sort of thing -- but as a plain old desktop system... I don't know. I tend to be rather cluttered and I'd worry about my CPU getting lost in the mess. I think they are quite cool in and of themselves, mind you, but who's kidding who -- they're toys. (Unless of course you live in a studio apartment with no room for a desk.)
/Brian
this definently isnt a first size wise, but power wise maybe. stanford have had the worlds smallest web server for quite a while now although it is a measly 44Mhz, but it runs linux! (of course!)
This will take you to the site of the story.
The cool thing I learned today is they (Portuguese apparently) call the mouse "Rato" !
"Would it kill you to put down the toilet seat?" -- Maya Angelou
Ano and anus come from the same latin root which means "circle" or "circular." I can't remember what the latin word is, but this is one of the few things I remember from latin class.
Of course, there's the old faithful procedure when you have a bad mouse: hold it up the same way, and ask if anybody smells anything...?
"Dead mouse."
(Groan)
"I say consider this day seized!" -Hobbes
"I say consider this day seized!" -Hobbes
"Tomorrow we'll seize the day and throttle it!" -Calvin
It's not particularly small. Compare it to a Sony Vaio C1, here are the specifications. The Vaio C1 is 249 x 152 x 27 mm, and weighs 1.1kg. That includes keyboard, screen, 30GB hard drive, and a battery. And the Vaio even has a Crusoe processor. What's so good about the "Ezmo"?
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The fact that this story has been mentioned before has already been mentioned before. What I am wondering, though, is whether the fact that this has been mentioned before has already been mentioned before?
The slashdot 2 minute between postings limit: /.'ers since Spring 2001.
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The fact that this is not battery powered also kills its portability. Unless you have a really long extension cord that is.
What language did you run it through as? I ran it through and the two sentences you ask about came through as "Gratis limitless access to the Internet." and "1 YEAR OF GUARANTEE".
Here is the page (kinda) translated into English courtesy of systran.
http://www.citydesk.pt/produto_ezgo.htm
That's portuguese you pendejo.
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Dios mio!
Looks like these things have been available for a little while now, so I'm curious if anyone here actually has one?
I'd be particularly interested in the noise levels; does it run as silent as you might expect from a box this small, or is it noisy? I've seen (heard) many examples of horribly noisy laptops (especially the CD-ROM is often bad). With the CPU fan obviously being mounted under the grille at the top there, I'd think this one has the potential for being even noisier. Anyone?
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Hey, the specs are nearly the same, except the GeForce3 chip. Why can't MS do the same, i.e., a smaller size X-box instead of this gigantic monster?
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I hate to tell everyone but this is old news. I have had one of these for a couple months now. I think they are rather nice little pices. They make great in car MP3 players (thats what I use mine for).
snowulf.com
if the computer is indeed that small then it wont be long until you see it inside someones lower-abdomen on an X-ray. most likely on steakandcheese or another of the like.. ;)
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What would really float my boat would be TWO ethernet ports. In order to provide additional security to my servers, I have private and public interfaces. No write services allowed via public interfaces attached to the internet. Write and monitoring services allowed via private interfaces to intranet. If these suckers had two ethernet ports they would be worth their cubic volume in gold.
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At almost 150mm square and 50mm thick and weighing almsot 1 Kg, "rat" would seem more appropriate.
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It's Slashdotted.
(Mostly complete) mirror here.
I don't know what good this thing is without a display, which kills the 'portability' feature.
Do you like German cars?
It just blended into the rest of the ignorance that IS /.
Try one of these to change 12V into 5v instead of the free-built-in-coffee-warmer 7805. They generally do not need a heat sink. It'll set you back $20, though. They also have higher current units, but they aren't drop-ins (space permitting) for the 7805. You can buy them at Digi-Key.
This unit and its smaller sibling have been discussed before on Slashdot -- it's smaller sibling is called Expresso was discussed http://www.slashdot.org/articles/00/04/18/2326253. shtml.
There is a review of the unit at http://203.120.86.4/products/hwharddrive/story/0,2 000008984,20199957,00.htm.
I did end up purchasing one of the Capaccino's -- nice unit, 1Ghz PIII, 20Gig HD, DVD, 512K RAM, ethernet, etc. Has pretty much everything I wanted but a 3D chip. Since it takes so little space, but can't be a game machine for me, I use it as a very portable server.
-- Herder of Cats
Every time a company says "the smallest computer around", I guess /. runs a story on it. If v r really looking at the evolution of small computers, probably v should be looking at wearable computers themselves. Not at a groups of chips put together, and called as a cool device. There is more to miniaturisation than minimising the board size. Look at what people are doing on
expressive footwear for instance.
"Do something man. Right now."
how much does one of those cappachino machines cost?
It fits in your head.
You are the stupidest person in the world. Even for a troll, your unintelligence is unmatched. You truly are the WEAKEST TROLL!
My, how utterly moronic of you.
Notice I never said I was a "gamer" - or even mentioned games, first off. I said - or rather implied - I was a homebrewer / LAN freak. In reality, I am a gamer - but certainly not of the persuasion that you think. I haven't played a retail or arcade system since about the launch of the PSOne. People like me - people who dislike your crapass FPS shooters and crave *real* gameplay - have been forced to become retrogamers, running emulators to play our forgotten classics. RockNES and ZSNES, along with Raine and MAME, for the most part, should run just fine on a Celeron. In any case, assumptions make an ass out of you, and, well, you.
Hmmm. I'll assume that you meant Celeron's were *not* cool anymore - and I suppose they aren't, if you desperately need speed. (Poor spelling is a sign of poor breeding. Try previewing your post.) I don't particularly, as I am not of the aforementioned gamer persuasion. A box this small for me would mean a rather interesting thin client - mods I've been thinking of so far are making a 6 by 3 box with a 5 inch LCD for it, or perhaps integrating it with a keyboard, kind of like a laptop with no screen. (Think Neuromancer - Oh wait, you probably can't read too well, judging by the intellect you've just displayed. Try getting the audio book of Neuromancer.)
As for the GeForce, I won't be getting one - not that I couldn't at this size. With a slightly bigger case, if you're at all familiar with either the MicroATX or FlexATX form factors, you'll notice PCI slots are easy to come by in small boxen. Not quite as small as this, though - but hey, as I'm not the "gamer" you so desperately want me to be, who cares?
As for your idea that this is a custom kit - I highly doubt it. Besides the fact that it uses all standard parts *except* for the mainboard, I'd assume that the motherboard could be found by in some cheapo etailers stock, simply because it isn't that innovative. It's a tiny motherboard with no AGP and an Intel 815 chipset. Small motherboards are nothing new. I've seen cases that are just about this size running celery 533's.
So let's see - you assumed I was a gamer, and made an ass of yourself. You assumed I'm a newbie - nope, wrong again sweetmeat. You assumed that I haven't got more case mods under my belt than you have peach fuzz on your chin. Three strikes, you're out.
Waiiiiiit a minute - I get it! You looked up at the member info, figured I'd just signed up because I heard of this really K-RAD L1NUX SITE D00D and I was open to attack.
Nice try, tough guy. Step away from mommy's IMac before you get hurt.
--avtr
Damn. Well, no use arguing when I fell for it that badly.
(feeling sheepish for getting trolled *that* bad)
--avtr
There's one big problem with this thing (well, probably more, but this is the one that hit me hardest): it costs an arm and a leg.
Does anyone know what the mainboard in this beast is? With a motherboard that small, us LAN party type people could buy it and do the rest ourselves... I mean, a Celeron and a DIMM are lying next to me right now, and I'm sure I could get a laptop cd-rom for cheaper than that. Someone ID that mainboard!
--avtr
Although it would be sexy, you would be paying for alot of hardware you would never use... ie. vga, svideo, modem etc..