Help Test Exciting All-New Slashdot "Banjo"
After far too long in development, Slashdot is ready to move to
the latest version of Slashcode.
To this end, we really need people to test our development box, aka Banjo. This is not a load test, so please don't beat the crap out of it (yet!). Please read comments, post comments, and test out wacky new features like Journaling and the assorted new messaging options. It is mostly identical but there are several cool surprises. We have many optimizations still to add, and only have a fraction of our "real" hardware on Banjo so don't worry about speed, instead look for things that don't work right (or at all!) and send those bug reports. (Known issues: imported comments are misattributed, and comment searching is disabled. Don't report these things please ;))
I tried to log in and got this message:
Pfft.
It says my Karma's 64! I like it.
this is to see if I have found a bug.
Slashdot is Slashdotted by Slash-users from Slashdot...
Nobox: Only simple products.
It seems banjo got /.'ed.
Looking for hardware (Currently need: Large Etch-a-Sketch) Have one? See my journal!
And here I thought that every URL passed to Slashdot was begging for a stress test!
-- bartman
I don't know what you consider a load test, but I think posting a site on Slashdot is about the best load test you can get!
And no load testing?!? Dear Lord man! This is slashdot, home of the infamous /.'ing DoS web attack! Of course it's going to get load tested.
P.S. I also do not recommend letting Katz post a story right before releasing new code to your site. There's no better way to 'load balance test' than that...
You know, you'd think they'd know better than to post a "please don't break it" story.
That's like telling a kid not to do something. They're gonna do it just because you didn't want them to!
And you've been with Slashdot for how long?!
...there's a reason why "beta tests" are limited to a certain number of users.
I think you just found out why.
Would this be more like a "gamma test"?
I had a brilliant idea, in wake of the /.ing of Banjo. Could you consider adding a way to randomly send a message to registered users, similar to the random way you're picked for moderating and what not. It could be text at the top like the moderating text with a link to Banjo. It could be a pop-up, although I don't think that would go over well. It could possibly be a small graphic in a sidebar too. Having the ability to control how many users get to see it overall as well as deciding it the user must be logged in or AC would be excellent as well. A feature like that could quite possibly help with things such as beta testing new /. code. My $.02 worth of ideas for the day.
It says I have too many teeth to play a banjo, whatever could that mean?
DanH
Cav Pilot's Reference Page
UNIX - Not just for Vestal Virgins anymore
MSerpent: Psst.... Go Ahead, Taco will never know, just a couple af hits will never make a difference....
user DamAntEEV: Just one Bite, he;ll never know... /. my Tree Of Banjo! get ye East Of Slashdot the the Land Of No Karma!
SlashGod: Gotcha! trying to
Can we now say that banjo got "banjoed"?
Skiers and Riders -- http://www.snowjournal.com
Kick at the tires?
Heck, I didn't even get in the showroom.
Looks like slashcode.com uses the new version. I could be wrong, though it seems to have something called "Journals". Okay, i'm off to go check it out, before people read my comment and /. slashcode.com too.
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Mod up a post Rob doesn't like and you'll never mod again
And here I thought that every URL passed to Slashdot was begging for a stress test!
/. population is showing all these sissy worms how to really bring down internet sites.
agreed. the
"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." - Jack Nicholson
It's dog slow, the imported comments are misattributed, and comment searching is disabled! What were you guys thinking!?
(Just kidding, it looks great so far.)
"And like that
All this blather and discussion about nothing at all, the color scheme makes me want to puke and... wait... What? That's not a new feature?
Dueling Banjos!!!
(Hmm. New Slashcode? Could Slashdot *get* any better??)
Good mfences make good neighbors.
it doesnt go
Shame on you cmdrtaco. User testing on your development boxes, turn in your geek license.
What is pirate software? Software for inventory of stolen treasure?
Gee, I hope you guys have a way to send notes to that Anonymous Coward, I think he/she needs to take a break, they sure do post a lot!
A feeling of having made the same mistake before: Deja Foobar
Sombody mod THIS guy down.
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SERENITY NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ok. I have only played around for a while, but please try to fix this for the next version.
And thanks again for the great work!
(wink wink)
The arrowpoint is being "adjusted" at the moment, so yeah, the site is fucked till that is done. Nice to see that it doesn't crash despite being completey swamped with connections :)
You can't grep a dead tree.
It's slashdotted.. does anyone have a mirror?
http://almostsmart.com
Apparently, because it doesn't work for me. Yep. Seems Slashdot Slashdotted itself. :) It times out which probably means it crashed and burned.
:)
Not surprising really given that it's not running without the full hardware, is known to be slow, and is brand new code Taco hasn't really tested out yet.
o/~ Oh, Susanna, don't you cry for me o/~
My journal has hot
To recall an old cartoon series: Banjo got El Cabonged!
Close the world, open the NeXT
Yeah! Now we can have a Mozilla-native sidebar panel rather than having to go through some kind of gateway RSS->RDF. This will be a big win. I'll have to code one now as an example...
BTW, RSS1.0 is RDF, not pseudo-RDF like some of the other RDF versions. There's info on dmoz.org, but I'm lazy. Find it yourself.
marotti.com
since banjo is slashdotted, has anyone seen whether it still has the unattractive turquoise "look"? google wasnt fast enough to cache it...
what's the diff between banjo, bender and fry?
or is banjo just their temp server they are using...
my blog
PING banjo.slashdot.org (64.28.67.73) from ###.###.###.### : 56(84) bytes of data.
--- banjo.slashdot.org ping statistics ---
20 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet loss
Yes, a little bit funny, once. Let me remind me of what the /. faq says: Be Original: Avoid being redundant and just
repeating what has already been said. Smirk. Yes, being
moderated as "redundant" is worth "-1" to your post and your
karma. Especially to be avoided are the "what he said" and "me
too" posts.
By the way, I don't drink coffee and I was modded down as redundant first.
Look a monkey!
It looks too much like IE's "The page cannot be displayed" error page to me... where's the navigation? All I have is Refresh, Back, and something about detecting my net settings...
OTOH, it is a much cleaner interface -- no more Fr1st P0sts and no more green tables!
Oh, wait... maybe running out of coffee this morning was a bad thing...
- Jman, with another shameless attempt at humor...
NGWave - Fast Sound Editor for Windows
Oh my God, the internet is going down. Code Red has struck. SOS.
Now how will I order books about Internet addiction from the nicest company in the world, Amazon.
-Shaunak.
Slashcode 2.0.0 came out on May 9, 2001. It can be found here.
...or is this payback for all the small sites it's DDOSed over the years? ;-)
"It take 9 months to bear a child, no matter how many women you assign to the job."
It's called bandwidth and clustered servers!! Check out the hardware section of the FAQ.
Damn, somebody beat me to the punch...
... I can just see tomorrow's headlines:
"'Sclusive! Slashdot Slashdots Smaller Slashdot Slashcode Server! Superb!"
Yeah, so I'm drunk, big deal.
Cleanstick.org: Dumb weblog about nothing
Ok banjo is running on the new slashcode/MYSQL/a linux box.
All self contained?
The new code adds features, how about scalability, new contributers(coders),comments on the development?
Is slashdot still running 2.2.x kernels? Is slashcode still dependent on MYSQL?
When will this version going to be moved to www?
"think of it as evolution in action"
C and DB2 instead of Perl and MySQL! And hire back some of the C coders VA got rid of.
*Shameless Attempt to get Cushy Telecommuting Job Back*
In further news the latest version of slashcode incorporates an automatting slashdotting plug-in to remove the burden of link-clicking from thousands of loyal viewers...
I saw it! I saw it!
Opps I clicked a link... No more Banjo for me
More of my thoughts
/. does get slashdotted, or at least amazingly slow.
Caveat Emptor is not a business model.
[Insert gasp of astonishment here]
Top Ten List of New Features Slashcode Needs:
10. Spellign Corection
9. (-1) Stupid moderation points, tell 'em how ya feel about that.
8. Variations on Anonymous Coward (i.e. Agronimous Cowherd, Aeronimous Tylerd, Nealanimous Cowberd)
7. Built in Wasabi dispenser
6. Tag matching (i.e. Missing </b>
%Parentheses mismatch in program SLASHCODE.BAS at line 34110
5. Rate authors (Of course, this would probably only lead to more Katz abuse...)
4. (+1) Topic save moderation points (only awarded to last message in thread if it brings it back to main topic)
3. Imagine a beowulf cluster of David Lettermans
2. Missile Defense Shield
1. Pop-under ads for goatse.cx
A feeling of having made the same mistake before: Deja Foobar
Yehh..we've just slashdotted slashdot! What's next on the list of eternal objectives? ;-)
Will the flag icon for topic=usa get its top stripe back?
The link is on the frontpage(tm) of Slashdot! How could it not get the crap kicked out of it???
I agree ... the intelligent thing would have been to post it to the front page of slashcode.com and let THEM find the bugs/features. THEN put it on a decent set of boxes and post it to the front page....
Mooniacs for iOS and Android
Take 'em right off. Get up, boy. I bet you can squeal. I bet you can squeal like a pig. C'mon boy, squeal like a pig. C'mon, squeal!
In case you were wondering, the Dueling Banjos is the theme song of Deliverance, and the quote above is from the scene where the hicks rape Ned Beatty.
Ever wonder why CmdrTaco and his ilk are always taking about being pantless? Now you know.
"This is not a load test"
Of course not, because there is nothing loading to even attempt a test. That's not a good way to start off.
Well thats gotta be a first.
Here's how a cut and paste from the on-screen version of his comment looks.
Dear Lord Man!
By the way, AC, it took me a moment to get it, but I laughed out loud when I did.
I see even classic Slashdot is now pretty much unusable on dial up anymore.
While I respect the Slashdot team for continuing development on the Slashcode and adding new features to it, wouldn't it be more prudent to work on what you've got until it's stable and fast before adding new 'features?'
Right now, Slashdot is slow-loading (from a 1.5mbps, multi-backboned connection), produces half of a webpage (everything down to the sections bar), and only responds to about half of my HTTP GET requests.
Anyway, just my worthless $0.02..
Do you like German cars?
http://www.htmlhelp.com/cgi-bin/validate.cgi?url=h ttp%3A%2F%2Fbanjo.slashdot.org%2F
And that's just the errors--the resulting page was huge when I included warnings too.
Feature creep. Is there really a need for user messaging and crap like that?
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Slashdot: News For Zealots. Stuff That's Hypocritical.
Will that replace slashdotted in geekspeak? only time will tell.
A suggestion, how about mirroring the page linked to in each article(and provide the mirrored link at the end). Even if you only keep it mirrored while it's on the mainpage, that'll still prevent the slashdot effect to some extent by giving people an alternative. I personally would opt to see text-only with broken images when a poor defenseless university server is brought to its knees.
Seems to be another new feature of the new /. - it uses a journal filing system rather than a journaling file system. ;)
This message is provided under the terms outlined at http://www.bero.org/terms.html
Moderators use "redundant" way too often, and apparently without considering that the second or third post to say a particular thing were probably written before the first post to say it showed up on the page. A lot of down moderation seems to be done more in anger and maliciousness than in a sincere attempt to improve the site.
I see even classic Slashdot is now pretty much unusable on dial up anymore.
I like Banjo better.
:o)
Slashdot: Karma 12 (mostly the sum of moderation done to users comments).
Banjo: Karma 31 (mostly the sum of moderation done to users comments).
Ich werde nie wieder denken
If everyone else on the internet suffers from the "Slashdot Effect"
They don't. I used to work with the usage analysis group at a large internet company; we were linked to from the front page of slashdot one day, and out of curiousity decided to measure the slashdot effect. Even in the first hour after the article was posted, less than 5% of our page views were referrals from slashdot (overall traffic was lower than the previous day).
The Slashdot effect only applies to sites that are unable to handle /. levels of traffic; sites that are larger than /. are (basically) unaffected, as are sites that can handle spikey traffic loads.
Sumner
rage, rage against the dying of the light
I have no idea where the extra 38 karma points came from though.
My only political goal is to see to it that no political party achieves its goals.
Well, currently I am running XP Professional with IE 6.0 and guess what, it doesn't load. Sorry, it just sits there.
Yes, I don't think I've ever used the 'redundant' moderation, except when moderating multiply posted spam comments (back before 'slow down cowboy' was so much in evidence).
I'm never entirely sure that I know the boundaries between 'troll' and 'flamebait', though.
-- Help Digitise the Public Domain at DP.
So now we'll go BatDotting harmless unsuspecting sites?
karma capped
Similarly Fark never gets Farked.
In light mode, the text of each article in the main page just extends horizontally as far as it goes all on one line. I have to use the horizontal scroll bar just to read it. The bug here is that the <NOBR> tag for the menu row is not properly closed. The slash is missing in the closing </NOBR> tag.
BTW, a <NOBR> tag is a bad idea for that menu for light mode, as it will cause horizontal scrolling for itself.
now we need to go OSS in diesel cars
You're a moderator with 4 points (expire after 2001-07-20).
Sweet! One of those "cool surprises" must be a time machine!
If Murphy's Law can go wrong, it will.
You can add yourself as your friend.. Oh, and as someone pointed out in a journal, the fact that there's a list of top posters re number of journal enteries will probably lead to a fp-ish contest among the very bored..
This is great! Will this now be a permanent feature of Slashdot? =)
You've reached the maximum number of times you can access users.pl: 123 accesses over 4 hours.
I waited 2 minutes (maybe it's doing some werid average calculation), and I got that error again (the number of accesses changed to 144, then 148, etc).
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Stay tuned for some shock and awe coming right up after this messages!
I think the A string is a little flat. Perhaps it is just auto-adjusted for correct tone when twanging fear through the hills of West Virginia.
Awesome... I LOVE the fact that you chose Banjo as the name for that box. You guys should check out fucinet.com...they have almost every spaceghost online. The new 2001 episodes (yes...new episodes) are fairly good. There are only 2, however old kentucky shark episode is probably the best damn space ghost episode EVER. It's got sharks blowing up, space ghost selling out, etc...good stuff.
"Things are more moderner than before- bigger, and yet smaller- it's computers-- San Dimas High School football RULES!"
banjo.slsahdot.org
I need a typosquatter keeping track of my typos! Please don't post this until banjo.slsahdot.org is up.
It's rare that you're presented with a knob whose only two positions are Make History and Flee Your Glorious Destiny.
I've posted 273 comments on slashdot. That's humbling. So why can I only see the last 24?
It's rare that you're presented with a knob whose only two positions are Make History and Flee Your Glorious Destiny.
actually, 276 counting the parent, this one, and one I posted yesterday which wasn't in the mirror site's database yet.
It's rare that you're presented with a knob whose only two positions are Make History and Flee Your Glorious Destiny.
Looking at
Freshmeat
slashcode
sourceforge
slashdot is the worst 'looking' site so far. It should be prettied up. Better fonts. sleek layout.
Specially a site I spent so much time, *must* be easy on eyes. Right now it is colors splattered all over the page and looks awful.
Can we first take care of this please>
...that I like the name you chose for your test server... the world can always use more banjoes. d
Could we please finally get a user's comment history to include all the comments that the user has posted? Personally, I'd also like an option to make that public info or have it to myself (where the public version would be "the last few weeks" or "the last 10")
Just having "the last 24 comments" sucks - I like to see what I've posted over the last year or two (or even ever since I started).
It shouldn't be too difficult, seeing as you've already done it for the story pipeline...
You should never take life too seriously - You'll never get out of it alive.
How about providing us with a change list Rob? Tell us what features to poke at, so we know where to look. Even if it's just s "new features are listed at www.slashcode.com/foovar".
www.eFax.com are spammers
Whew. I've spent too much time on this. Over the past few hours, I have recorded at least 10 bugs in the new code. Some of it is minor display stuff. Others deal with serious things like the complete mistreatment of A HREF and /A.
The area of the new Slash code with the greatest number of bugs in the Journals. But that is a completely new feature, so I won't entirely bitch.
And someone just hosed the page numbering code so where you've got pages 0 and 1 on an article (which don't link to the next page). You have to manually modify the "startat" in the URL to get to page #2.
I wouldn't say that it was ready for a public beta. If the Slash people thought it was, they need a team of good testers to poke holes in this stuff. Lotsa flaws.
Oh... BTW, things like TROLLTALK and all are gone! But oddly enough, you can still create your own personal SID forum, with a Slash generated number, by using one of the special pages.
Lots of interesting changes, though.