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Because not everything is as simple as who signs your paycheck ... cetan writes: "As a follow up to being laid off by AOL from Netscape, Mitchell Baker posted an article on Mozillazine discussing her role within Mozilla.org."
Can you think of a title to help her replace "Chief Lizard Wrangler"? All that wrangling has been a good thing, though, as recent builds make clear. I'd like to suggest "Reptilian Ambassador."
Sometimes, you just have to play. t0qer writes: "This is an update to this story. Originally I said kaillera was a net enabled version of mame, it's actually a free SDK to enable any emulator to have netplay. It was written by Christophe Thibault, of winamp fame. Contrary to some comments that the code was ripped from netmame, it was actually borged from jnetlib which was written by his boss and buddy Justin Frankel. So far kaillera has been adopted by 10 different emulators.
Speaking of games, iphayd writes: "Graeme Devine updated his plan , and released a version of Return to Castle Wolfenstein. While this isn't interesting in itself, he's claiming that he is getting 3x the frame rate on a dual 800 G4 system than his dual P3 800 system."
You shall not convert the news headlines in the MSNBC component into an audio format. MarkedMan writes: "There has been some confusion over Microsoft's Frontpage EULA, with some claiming it prohibited using the software to produce works disparaging Microsoft and some saying it simply prohibited the use of the Frontpage logo on such sites. (The logo restriction actually seemed reasonable to me.) After some searching I found that some versions of the EULA do indeed limit use of the program itself. This from Northwestern University's Microsoft User License: Check out page 2, section 2. http://www.tss.northwestern.edu/select/mspur.pdf"
We have come to terms. bkuhn writes: "The FSF and FSMLabs have an agreement on a GPL-compliant version of the RTLinux Open Patent License. You can read our statement and related press release on the matter."
It's cool to see this sort of conflict work be met and resolved.
Not quite a date with a star. Troodon writes "A brief reminder, JPL and BBCnews report that this Saturday (22/SEP/2001) at 2230 Universal time (3:30 p.m. PDT) Deep Space 1 has a date with the Comet Borrelly"
Frist Prost for the free world!
I raped Katy with a lamp!
*sigh* I wish someone would stand up to those greedy FSF lawyers.
And you can use it even if you decide to make disparaging comments about my person!
AC
Who is the turd who came out with the name operation INFINATE JUSTICE?
If voting could really change things, it would be illegal.
JonKatz is Rob Malda!
By DAVID ESPO, AP Special Correspondent
WASHINGTON (AP) -- George W. Bush, web master of the famous JonKatz is gay [isgay.com] website has revealed that through private investigation he has found out that JonKatz, is in fact Rob Malda. Rob, maintainer of the famous Communist software website Slashdot [slashdot.org] said only, "Well, I guess this means everyone know I'm gay then
From the vadican:
Last Tuesday, 11 September, when the Holy Father heard the news of the two massive terrorist attacks in New York and Washington, in which thousands of persons lost their lives, he sent a telegram to President George Bush in which he expressed "his profound sorrow for the unspeakable horror of the inhuman attacks against innocent persons and his closeness in prayer to the nation in the dark and tragic moment".
On Wednesday, 12 September, the Holy Father noted that the day was a dark one in the history of mankind, but that the last word comes from Christ's victory of love over sin, hatred and death. "Christian hope allows us to pray for those who do evil and for those who have to take the path of recovery. Even if the forces of darkness appear to prevail, those who believe in God know that evil and death do not have the final say. Christian hope is based on this truth; at this time our prayerful trust draws strength from it". The Holy Father prayed that the Lord grant the American people the courage they need in their hour of trial.
On Thursday, 13 September, the Holy Father again expressed his closeness in prayer to the American people and his sense of profound sadness over the tragedy. "I pray that this inhuman act will awaken in the hearts of all the world's peoples a firm resolve to reject the ways of violence, to combat everything that sows hatred and division within the human family". He said that it should pave the way for a "new era of international cooperation".
On Sunday, 16 September, at noon, the Holy Father made one of his intentions for the Angelus a prayer for the American people as they pick up their lives after the tragedy. "May Mary welcome the dead, console the survivors, support those families who are particularly tried, help all to resist the temptation to hatred and violence, and to dedicate themselves to the service of justice and peace".
Testing -- fuck you Slashdot, you bunch of hypocrites.
Excuse me sir, can you point me at any documentation for becoming a raging homosexual? You see, that's always been a dream of mine. All the other kids in my first-grade class used to say they wanted to become firemen, or soldiers, or the President. Not me. J. Edgar Hoover was always my hero, so when Mrs. Smith asked me what I wanted to be when I grew up, I told her, "Mrs Smith, I want to be a raging homosexual!" She didn't like that, for some reason. All the other kids made fun of me, but that was OK. I could ignore them in favor of pursuing my dream of becoming a raging homosexual.
Today, I've believe I've mastered the homosexual part. My ass can take cocks you wouldn't believe, and my dick's been sucked by thousands of hot guys. What I'm having trouble with is the raging part. If you could point me at any web pages with information on skilled raging, I'd really appreciate it.
Thanks for your help.
Thank you.
--Patrick Bateman, Esq.
krak rok kilz kidz ded
Yeah, whoever uses FP to produce a web page, according to the EULA, is not allowed to remove the "active links" (advertisements ?) from the thing, you may not use it "in connection" with sites that diaparages M$, MSN, MSNBC, etc (note : nothing about those companies peoples, though).
More interesting : you may not use it and infringe ANY state, federal, international laws ! Woooah, given that it's nearly impossible not infringe any law somewhere, that would be a real feat !
Last but not least : you may not promote pr0n ! Yeah, sure, what do you think most porn site webmasters are using ?
-- javaDragon is an instance of JavaDragon.
pinkducky33@hotmail.com likes to fuck little boys. he's a widdle pedophile. Mail me
From the section referred to in the article:
Not having used FrontPage in general and any of these "web components" in particular, I don't want to draw any conclusions, but it doesn't seem like the restrictions covered in the section would come into play if you just use FrontPage as a WYSIWYG editor to design your site.
-- If no truths are spoken then no lies can hide --
hmm so he got 3x the framerate on a duel g4 800 than a duel p3 800...
I bet the g4 system probably costs more than 3x as much
The Slashdot Effect: A new for
The "updated his plan" link is broken. Can't wait to get my hands on a copy of that Wolfenstein release...
(Note: it took 3 minutes to get this comment through the "postersubj compression filter". WTF? Apparently, "Enough is Enough" is not an allowable subject field.)
This Microsoft cr*p is ridiculous.
It is now the time for anyone and everyone who spends a significant amount of money on Microsoft products to seriously evaluate their options (i.e. consider open-source and related software products).
From product activation to (fill in the blank) to this latest EULA fiasco, I think most people have had just about enough.
If you celebrate Xmas, befriend me (538
Jamie, a guy with a gal's name.
Mitchell, a gal with a guy's name.
Hmmm, I wonder if the porn shops will soon have more openings for Linux folks... My wife wouldn't like it, but I think it would be a great work environment ;-)
If all this should have a reason, we would be the last to know.
The first paragraph in that section reads So basically MSFT doesn't want you using their COM objects on sites that perform illegal activities or diss MSFT subsidiaries. This is very different from stating that if you build your site with Front Page then you must conform to those restrictions. As for "active links", these refer to URLs that components may contaion that lead back to MSFT, for instance MSIE ships with links to Hotmail, Windows Update, and Windows Media Player while Netscape ships with links to AOL and Real. All that section is saying is that if you reuse their components then you shouldn't change the links, seems straight forward enough to me.
But only after much deliberation....
The Northwestern site appears to be slashdotted.... anybody got the relevant text from that pdf file?
The One Rule Of Chess You'll Ever Need: Don't play someone who carries a kit in their bookbag.
It appears the last quickies article was posted Wednesday March 28, @05:59PM. Come on now, there has to have been a lot of little cool stories since then. I miss the quickies. They had a lot of the funniest, coolest, weirdest tidbits on /.
Anybody know why they have ceased to exist? Taco, hemos, et al you out there?
I found out about Kalliera(sp) and immediately downloaded it. Imagine, being able to play real arcade games, with other people, over the internet! Wow!! I install, join a server, and plop. Nothing. The only games being played, and I mean the only games, are the dreadfully dull fighting games. I try some of the other servers, and the same thing is going on there. I repeat this process many times over the span of a few weeks, and I don't find *anything*. I mean, not one single time did I find anyone playing any real arcade games. I think once I saw someone playing Puzzle Fighter, which tries to fool people into thinking it's a fighting game, and evidently succeeded in this case.
Shutting down free speech with violence isn't fighting fascism. It IS fascism!
#rub
For those wondering where Graeme's claim about the framerates were, that was in an earlier update. You can find it at QuakeFinger as well.
-- If no truths are spoken then no lies can hide --
MAME is source-available (though not GPL) and is ported to many different architectures. Linux, DOS, Windows, Mac, even digital cameras.
Kaillera is a closed-source SDK for Windows only, therefore it has a much more limited appeal/application than MAME itself.
If you're a zombie and you know it, bite your friend!
They link to, or God forbid actually write, stories that are far fetched, just to piss people off.
Over 90% of their articles are stolen from other sites.
Most of Slashdot's content comes from its users. They try to make money off of this while the people provide it for free, when really they should be charging Slashdot.
Trolls, keep up the good work of posting irrelevant crap on Slashdot. Fuck you Slashdot.
(Damn the subject line sounds a bit... well, dirty!)
For a daily dose of quickies, hit: Memepool.com Most of the time it's better than what Slashdot's quickies were back when they posted them :-)
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Of course they can. They can limit whatever speech through their medium that they want. Republican talk show hosts like Rush Limbaugh don't have to allow liberals (or atleast, the smart ones) on their show if they don't want to. So what do liberals do when they don't have their voice heard on the EIB network? They go elsewhere.
And frontpage is nowhere near a monopoly, and there are tons of alternatives, so the ability to have speech is not limited through a medium, just one avenew out of several similiar avenews for expressing free speech in one medium is limited.
Restrictions like this should make a lot of people consider using alternatives. The more people that move away from microsoft products, the better. And if microsoft is going to give people good reason to switch, I'm not going to complain.
F-bacher
James Tiberius Kirk: "Spock, the women on your planet are logical. No other planet in the galaxy can make that claim."
I just heard some sad news on talk radio - Horror/Sci Fi writer Stephen King was found dead in his Maine home this morning. There weren't any more details. I'm sure everyone in the Slashdot community will miss him - even if you didn't enjoy his work, there's no denying his contributions to popular culture. Truly an American icon.
I would avoid Reptialian Ambassador.
You wouldn't want anyone confusing Mitchell Baker with a M$ sales rep.
more database errors, or the hand of timmy?
Did he recompile Wolf to take advantage of the second processor?
Has it occured to anybody that the names of the operations the US mil uses aren't normally the most eloquent or even intelligent? The name of an op does not necessarily have to relate to what the op is about. My point is, the name is only really there as a point of reference. They could call it Operation Speghetti and Meatballs for all anyone really cares.
Sorry for the stupid post. It's late.
There is simply too much glass..
I seem to recall something about if you apply restrictions to the content of what passes through your channels, than you are giving what passes through the nod.
In the case of MS, by prohibiting particular content being made and published using their product, then they are leaving themselves open to aiding people who make, say, porn or hate pages, using Frontpage. And because their licences prohibit some content, then they are party to what is let through.
Hmmm - just a thought ....
OS/2 - because choice is a terrible thing to waste.
posts are vanishing left, right and, less often, centre.
Folks, I work for a large company when these sort of things were brought to the table our lawyers wrote our OWN EULA that overrides M$'s, not to exclude clickable EULA either on all M$ products. You would be supprised they don't complain too much. This sort of strategy has been used on PO payment as well. For software unless we have a predetermined license agreement with a software vendor we include our OWN EULA as part of the payment process. They have 30 days to accept the payment and OUR EULA or we return the software and they don't get paid.
I have never seen a company complain about this. You thing a fortune 500 company worth their salt is going to agree to let M$ dictate there content our allow M$ to order an inventory of there software. Sheesh, it ain't as bad as you think.
Katy is the name of a town in Texas.
This is probably fair enough for Hotmail, and Frontpage too -- how many Slashdotters would like the see the
However, as for any content generated by the program in question... strip out the META tags and M$ junk it includes in HTML files, and voila! "Could've been any program that done this, guv'ner..."
<!-- DHTML / JavaScript menu, popup tooltip, Ajax scripts -->
Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Win2K come with a program called Narrator that converts text into an audio format. I wonder if we could sue MS for violating the DMCA (circumvention device) using their own software? Thoughts?
-atrowe: Card-carrying Mensa member. I have no toleranse for stupidity.
You may not use the software in a connection with any site that disparages Microsoft, MSN, MSNBC, Expedia or their products or services, infrince any intellectual property or other rights of these parties, violate any state federal or international law, or promote racism, hatred, or pornography...
I like what one poster made fun of -- what is Microsoft thinking? Can't make pr0n sites with frontpage? No links that promote racism or hatred?
This seems a bit much... I dont condone hate groups, nor do I condone racists... but I respect the right they have to have their views. Microsoft is seeming to be letting idealogies determine what a person can do with their product... to ask yourself if this can be done -- think: do you think its ok and legal to sell a product to make web pages with the EULA that "You can not use this to make any page that does not have only the words 'Microsoft is Cool' on it" and advertise it otherwise? Someone buys this product (for example) for the sole purpose to let other people know what a complete and total idiotic racist that they are, and then they find that the EULA that they did not see until after they installed the product prohibited it. They can't return it -- (open box software), and they cant use...
What can we do?
you're thinking of 'common carrier' status. It relates to telecommunications companies and has nothing to do with software.
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There's an old song that I think encapsulates our emotion on the Taliban:
"Come Mr. taliban, tally me banana"
"Daylight come and me wanna go home"
I would like to see the true contents of the post before slashdot censored it
The Slashdot Effect: A new for
Why should I care what you have to say about any of this? If it was not for you, we would not be arguing about this mess. The victims died, convinced by their upbringing that these terrorists would go straight to hell.
...
I'm tired of atheism, complaining, the repression of religios freedom by athiests in China (only communist party members, who must be athiest, can be in the government), and people who are really athiest but use religion as an excuse ("the opiate of the masses") to hide who they really are, just like Hitler did. If they had really believed, they would know "thou shalt not commit murder"
I am a Christian, realist, and an adult. I do not need athiesm to tell me comforting stories about how I'm supposedly statistically smarter -- but who think that morality is subjective and bend it to whatever they want to believe in. I can do without the athiestic fantasies that say humanity will evolve with some kind of manifest destiny. I can distinguish right from wrong without just making it up as I go along.
More bad news for the athiests among us: God is real. There is proof [ask the doctors at www.lourdes-france.com]. Grow up.
Pictures would have been nice. The word of believers is fine, but photographic evidence of an apparition of the Virgin Mary would be conclusive.
Hell, send James Randi over there to verify an apparition, that'd be good enough for most of us atheists.
-- La1d, killed by a newt, while helpless.
Media Elements. The Software may include certain photographs, clip art, animations, sounds, music and video clips (together Media Elements)....
...(ii) You are not licensed to do any of the following:...
...You may not create obscene or scandalous works, as defined by federal law at the time the work is created, using the Media Elements...
Are they serious? Also, I thought the federal obscenity laws depended on local norms. What is "local" on the Internet? (Let alone "scandalous?")
The next MS EULA should say anyone can use this peice of software as long as their skin isn't black. It's a free market what's wrong with that?
Or perhaps we could have the "no developers" license? You can only use this peice of software if you've never written a program longer than 2000 lines of code. (This would be for the purpose of stopping reverse engineering of course...)
You are aware that besides Windows, NT also means NO TEXT , right, or are you just a FUCKING CUM SUCKING MORON?
Sadly, most of you are getting all uptight and angry at microsoft over a clause in the EULA which doesn't exist. Have any of you read it yourself? The clause which DOES exist, and has had one portion selectively quoted refers to placement of the FRONTPAGE logo on websites. You are all suggesting that you can't use FP to make pages you want to, impeeding on your free speech. This is so far from the truth it's not funny. Instead, this is an ALLOWANCE by Microsoft. Actually using the FP logo is a violation of trademark, however, in their license agreement, MS is allowing you to display their logo on your site, under their conditions. THIS IS COMPLETELY LEGAL AND MORAL! Here's the status quo - you're not allowed to use their logo, because you violate trademark copyright. However, due to their generosity, mainly stemming from their desire to promote their own product, they ARE allowing people put the logo on their pages, but only if you don't then go on to diss MS. It is their logo, and YOU are agreeing to a license to use it with them. They are not restricting your free speech at all - spout on about how much you hate M$ as much as you want, but don't violate trademark and display their logo while you're doing it. That's all MS is asking.
Penguin worshippers, stop thinking balls before brains and check out the facts before you start posting angry comments about MS destroying the first ammendment, thats simply not the case. Rather, MS is giving you the okay for you to break the copyright law protection on their trademark, as long as you follow certain guidelines in doing so. Thats not too much to ask when they're letting you steal something from them, is it?
Or open up the list of rejected articles someplace for everyone to poke at. /. is getting all these submissions for free, follow the open source spirit and post them someplace.
Rate of spontaneous healing at Lourdes: 1/75,000
Rate of spontaneous healing anywhere else: 1/50,000
the NT was added after slashdot erased the contents of the post
it stands for NEW TESTAMENT
part of many hidden right-wing messages found within slashdot..
please go hang yourself now
The Slashdot Effect: A new for
Also, for those that didn't notice it, http://www.microsoft.com/ was infected with the Nimda virus for about a half-hour yesterday (thereby infecting any unprotected surfers).
I'm tired of the bullsh*t of having to fight three different viruses at work and then coming home to MS commercials on tv where they hype security and "plays well with others". How 'bout a little truth in advertising?
-Firewall
Did anyone else think "V" when they read this? Showing my age, I guess.
1984 was supposed to be a warning, not an instruction manual.
They tried their damndest to get the Church of Satan to remove "Made with a Mac" or an apple logo removed from their pages.
At least MS is coming outright and tell users what they can't do, as opposed to picking on certain groups because it might upset the herd.
Most americans couldn't care less about free speech and the corporations know this, and now they're exploiting it.
I'm normally not a MS basher. Hell, I've been an MCSE for over 2 years (both the NT4 and recently the 2K track)...but this kind of stuff makes me happy that I'm making the switch to Linux and open source.
--SC
You read fiction? I write it! Lemme know what you th
Why should I care what you have to say about any of this?
I don't know, but you clearly do as evidenced by your lengthy response.
The victims died, convinced by their upbringing that these terrorists would go straight to hell.
The terrorists thought they would go to heaven, the Christians thought they would go to hell, and neither side has a shred of evidence to support their beliefs.
I am a Christian, realist, and an adult.
That is simply contradictory.
I do not need athiesm to tell me comforting stories about how I'm supposedly statistically smarter
Where did that come from? An atheist is someone who does not hold religious beliefs. It is not based on statistics about intelligence.
-- but who think that morality is subjective and bend it to whatever they want to believe in.
Personal insults about my morality are both inappropriate and baseless. You don't know me. You don't know how I lead my life, whether I help people in need, donate to charities, or have a strict moral code. Since you brought up the supposedly superior morality of Christians, I'll throw out a couple of names: Jimmy Swaggert and Jim Baker.
I can distinguish right from wrong without just making it up as I go along.
Right. You have such divine guidance as:
Exodus 21:20 And if a man smite his servant, or his maid, with a rod, and he die under his hand; he shall be surely punished.
Great. You can beat servants as long as you do not kill them.
Deuteronomy 15:12 [And] if thy brother, an Hebrew man, or an Hebrew woman, be sold unto thee, and serve thee six years; then in the seventh year thou shalt let him go free from thee.
And you can only keep slaves for six years. Boy, that is some great moral guidance.
1 Corinthians 14:34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but [they are commanded] to be under obedience, as also saith the law.
More declarations of right and wrong. Women are not to speak in church.
Exodus 31:15 Six days may work be done; but in the seventh [is] the sabbath of rest, holy to the LORD: whosoever doeth [any] work in the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death.
More clear-cut moral guidance: Capital punishment for those who work on the sabbath.
The more I learn about the Bible, the more proud I am to be an atheist.
Actually, I, ...she... objects to being called a 'fairy' ...and henceforth will be known as the 'Tooth Angel'.
Rate of my interest dropping at this discussion: priceless.
Sorry if this is off topic... but it's been *very* hard to program this last week. I feel like I have this enormous burden on my chest. I live in a Democracy, and I feel I must now pay for my freedom with time, energy, and concern. If you feel the same way, please comment on this draft to the President regarding his speech this evening. If you don't feel this way, please don't mark me as Troll or Flame-Bait. Instead write your own letter. Call me an idealist if you wish... but somebody's got to do it. Thank you.
...
Dear President,
Given that you have resolved to take actions against Afghanistan and that our Congress has passed the Authorization for Use of Military Force, I humbly offer a few suggestions which I hope you will consider.
0. We need more compassionate talk about those innocent refugees who are ravaged by war in Afghanistan. Identify with them and the Arabic world will follow you. Give these people hope and help them rebuild their society. Only then will terrorists be unwelcome.
1. Make it clear that we are temporary guests who are visiting to restore basic freedoms of speech, assembly, religion, and self-determination. Clearly point out how Muslims, Christians, and Jews peacefully practice their religions in our country due to the separation of church and state.
2. For every military dollar, spend two dollars on relief efforts in Afghanistan and other "at risk" areas where dissent is evident. To really fight terrorism, we must give hope back to the citizens of Afghanistan. Use this to rally the Arabic peoples of other nations to support us so that the terrorism does not just move to another country.
3. Declare an American media style 'war on mines'. Rally the Arabic world to help rid Afghanistan of its millions of mines. Let this be a known goal of our "invasion". Promise on our nation's flag that we will not leave mines when we go.
4. While "war against terrorism" rages, carry on a separate 'war on illiteracy' in the Refugee camps. Build schools. Teach them Math. Teach them Science. Teach them Humanities (esp. Middle-Eastern History). Teach them Business. Teach them Agriculture.
5. Help rebuild their cities by providing knowledge, food, housing, supplies, and encouragement. Help them rebuild their countryside by exploring what crops work best in their climate and how to build an agricultural system to support their peoples.
6. Help them form a democratic government. Be clear that we are not Imperialistic. Afghanistan is their country, and will remain their country.
7. Above all, make it known to the Afghan people and the whole world that we are there to remove terrorists and the government which harbors those terrorists. Make it clear we will eventually leave. And make it clear that when we do leave, their country will be in better condition than when we arrive.
I close with the recently spoken words of the Holy Father, Pope John Paul II:
"I pray that this inhuman act will awaken in the hearts of all the world's peoples a firm resolve to reject the ways of violence, to combat everything that sows hatred and division within the human family."
"[May God] help all to resist the temptation to hatred and violence, and to dedicate themselves to the service of justice and peace."
Sincerely Yours,
Clark C. Evans
blatant M$ astroturfing.
"Americans are asking: Why do they hate us?
They hate what we see right here in this chamber, a democratically elected government. Their leaders are self-appointed. They hate our freedoms, our freedom of religion, our freedom of speech, our freedom to vote and assemble and disagree with each other"
And the people cheered.
But it is pure self-gratify bullshit! Clear thinking is being thrown out the window. I am all for War, sure, but War with intellect intact with sound reasoning and clear obtainable objectives.
The US people are being mislead and are being swept in a tide wave of nationalism, and nationalism is at the bottom of greatest evils this world has ever endured.
First off we are not being attacked because or our democratic principals or our freedoms. The irony is that the majority of people are all for the removal of our freedoms in order to attack those who supposedly hate our freedoms.
We are being attacked by blind religious fervor that is not based in logic and has its example in the dark ages. The mixing of fundamental religion and autocratic power is devastating. We are stooping to their level and will pay the price.
This is worse than Vietnam. The jungle will be our civilized society. And this time there will be chemical and biological weapons that we cannot detect or stop. In 5 years, it will be nuclear and will make the WTC look like a day in park. It is time for new solutions.
Bush has hinted that it will take 100 Billion bucks to win this war. 100 Billion and we will not win the way he is vaguely proposing. What if we took 100 Billion and invested in the future. Let have a "go to the moon" attitude on energy independence. Rampup spending on fusion, space based energy and alternative energy research. Then we can de-emphasize the importance and significant on the Middle East.
Talk about a war on drugs. How about the way Americans are addicted to cheap Middle East oil. And like an addict we make stupid decisions, like supporting feudal governments such as Saudi Arabia or even Osoma. The Middle East region is stuck in the dark ages. Let them fight out between themselves. I am confident that given a generation or two they we emerge from the cellar. Lets not follow them in.
Anyone with dissenting opinion is promptly criticized with a "if you don't love it leave it" attack. This is the same knee jerk response that was repeated over and over during the Vietnam era. And surprisingly the present day hawks (like Bush and most of his advisers) used their influence to run and hide. Were was our leader in those years, MIA.
Bush has yet to state what our objectives are. Words like:
"We will starve terrorists of funding, turn them one against another, drive them from place to place, until there is no refuge or rest."
Cut of funding. How much do you think the WTC attack cost? $200K maybe $300K. As long as developed nations pump trillions of dollars into the region there will always be a budget for terrorism.
turn them one against another Oh, i like this one best. As a common enemy, we will achieve the exact opposite. Instead of focusing on each other they will have the great satan to fight. They don't call it holy war for nothing.
Drive them from place to place, until there is no refuge or rest. Bush should get a travel guide of Afghanistan from the Russians. They drove their tanks to battle and flew their bombers from the homeland and they were still decimated and humbled in the end.
Well, maybe it's okay as long as you are just showing pornography. This isn't promotion, after all. So "Come See Barely Legal Chicks" sites would be banned, but just no-frill hardcore porn pages would be A-OK.
Similarly, maybe this means it's okay to make a site saying "I hate, I am racist, and here's a picture of me naked", as long as you aren't saying that other people should feel the same.
I've wondered about going through the entire purchase-refuse-EULA-get-return-denied process, and then go ahead and find something interesting in the EULA that I can then break (since they haven't held up their end of the contract, I thus wouldn't be bound).Maybe I should purchase a copy of FrontPage, try to return it, fail, and then make a particularly offensive page with it, with a big "made with FrontPage" logo on it.
The other way would be civil disobedience -- buy this sort of software on a credit card, and when you can't return it get the credit card company to stop payment. I've never done that sort of thing with a credit card, so I don't konw how hard it is. Admittedly you wouldn't be going into the transaction in good faith either. I'd be curious if someone else has tried such a thing.
Definition. Perhaps you should stop spreading pompous inaccuracies. By the definition of most thinking people, agnosticism is the "no belief in God, period" that you ascribe to the more active denial inherent in atheism.
Wooah - 3x the frame rate on a duel G3 800, compared to a duel PII 800.
This is a nonsense comparison - as the entire architecture of the G3 means that it is more equivilent to a higher clock speed PII. It's akin to comparing Q3 on a PII333 and a PII750 (or whatever).
Check this out: .
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That's just obtuse.
Homeland security? Why the hell not 'Interior' security? It dosen't seem patriotic enough? Maybe the Dept. of Defence should be renamed the Dept. of Crusades!
Pacific Bell Internet Services has a similiar clause in their usage aggreement. That means that if I were to tell you guys the truth, that PacHell has the worst tech (non)support of ANY ISP that I've ever had to deal with, then they could revoke my account. I've contemplated using this as an out of the minimum 1 year service agreement if I need to.
Why not call it Counterstrike ?
On second thoughts that's a bad idea; someone's already got the game rights to that already !!
When is someone going to release a Quake/Half Life addon pack with Bin Laden lookalike terrorist enemies ?
Donte Alistair Anderson Roberts - hi son!
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Plus, if you're looking forward to the gnu economy, you may want to investigate acquiring your own, descriptive, relevant, URLs. thanks.
Lets trade Ariel Sharon for Osama bin Laden; i.e., our terrorist for yours.
The butcher of Beirut for the butcher of Manhattan. Seems like a fair
trade. Let us show the world that the lives of Palestinian women and
children are just as sacred as the lives of American women and children.
The life of one American soldier invading Afghanistan is not worth Sharon.
God bless America
Pete.
People still using FrontPage? Crap, I thought everyone with a shred of self-respect was using DreamWeaver...
Dont complain about FrontPages licensing issues, just dont use it and dont buy it...
Anyway, anything, under any platform is better than FrontPage (and InterDev is pretty sucky too)...
No, seriously, I just come here for the articles.
Before you get too proud, why don't you try actually LEARNING about the Bible first. This book was written a long time ago so you can't just take what it says without knowing when or why it was said. It's called CONTEXT. Or are your READING COMPREHENSION and HISTORY skills as out of date as that King James version you're quoting from?
Or you could just continue to be smug in your ignorance. At least until the day of your death.
"You may not use the Software in connection with any site that disparages Microsoft, MSN, MSNBC, Expedia or their products or services"
Basically they're saying that you can't use Frontpage to build frontpagesucks.com. . .
I am a Christian, realist, and an adult.
That is simply contradictory.
This is simply flamebait. Or would be if the rest of the message weren't fairly well written and reasonable.
You don't exactly say why someone can't be Christian, adult, and realist at the same time, but I'm guessing your quotations form some of your evidence for that. The thing about the Bible is that it is a huge book (compilation of books, actually) written over a very large span of time in cultures significantly different from our own. They seem jarringly "unchristian."
But I want to show that a Christian person can be realistic and logical. Such a person (me, for example) would do some research and come up with the following conclusions:
Exodus 21:20 And if a man smite his servant, or his maid, with a rod, and he die under his hand; he shall surely be punished.
It actually gets worse if you read the next verse. That verse says that if the servant lives, then he won't be punished at all, because, after all, he's already lost the services of that slave, who was his property.
The thing is that the slavery/servanthood system back then was not as bad as the slavery that existed in the US before the civil war. Now that doesn't mean that it was good on any scale, but if you happen to be a Deity who is trying to lead a group of people "rough and stiffnecked" people through the desert, who complain that instead of all the really great food they had in Egypt while they were SLAVES there, they have to eat this mana stuff which you cause to appear on the ground every morning while they wander through the desert for 40 years because even though they saw You (said Deity) rain down the 10 plagues on Egypt, open the Red Sea, etc., they took one look at the giants in the promised land and didn't think You could handle that little problem, then as said Deity You have to realize that you have the racial equivalent of a "problem child" on your hands and they probably won't accept it if you try to change their whole social, political, and economic structures over night. (*) As such, you will prioritize the Bad Things which you have to get rid of, and perhaps even make some gradual changes on them.
That's where the second verse comes in:
Deuteonomy 15:12 [And] if thy brother, an Hebrew man, or an Hebrew woman, be sold unto thee, and serve thee six years; then in the seventh year thou shalt let him go free from thee.
God changes the slavery system here. It is no longer a permanent thing, but more like selling your services to someone for seven years in return for room and board. As opposed to various forms of robbery or begging, I think that's a marked improvement. Slavery here wasn't a system in which a group of people captured a bunch of foreigners and then forced them to work for life, along with their children and all their decendents. Slaves were people who had been hit with sudden and severe lack of economic means with which to sustain their basic needs (mainly just food, in those days). Thus, the slaves came from the same set of people as their owners, and so the owners placed a greater value on them (as a human being). Also because of this, they weren't all that common, and were looked upon with far more value (economically) than slaves in the US were. Thus, beatings would be pretty rare. If they did happen, the law states that if the slave lived, the loss of his services would be enough to convince any smart slaveowner that beatings weren't a very good economic choice. In summary, slavery in this culture was not what we think of when we think slavery, and while not wholly desirable, was something far more akin do (indentured) servanthood.
Also, there were three types of laws given to the Isrealites. This law was part of the laws for the nation of Isreal. We're not necessarily bound by them today, although they are worth studying for the principles behind them. Another part of the law was the ceremonial law, which had to do with the priests, worship service, and sacrifices in the sanctuary. This whole system of laws was a symbol of the plan of Salvation - specifically, Jesus taking our sins on Himself and dying on the cross for us. These laws are very much worth studying, but these symbols of what was to come became meaningless when what was to come came. The other set of laws was the 10 commandments, or Moral Law. These laws are still very much in effect, no matter who tells you that they were "nailed to the cross." Christians would do well to heed them, and here I'll take the oppurtunity to suggest that they all take a closer look at the 4th one. (well, 3rd if you think that it was valid for the roman catholic church to remove commandment number 2 and split commandment 10 into 2 commandments so that there would still be 10.)
OK, next verse:
1 Corinthians 14:34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but [they are commanded] to be under obedience, as also saith the law.
Paul can be a pain to reconcile with the modern day idea of the equality of the sexes. My take on it is that males and females are of equal value, but are generally assigned different roles. One of these, as un-PC as it may seem, is that in a marriage relationship the women are supposed to be obedient to the man. Or rather, the two people are metophorically supposed to become one, so that they make decisions and decide on things together, but if they can't come to an agreement (which shouldn't happen very often in a working marriage), the man gets the final say. But why should the women shut up in church? Well, evidently the church services in Corinth were a bit too chaotic, to the point where hardly anyone could understand anything. The Corinthian populous was fairly heterogenous, linguistically speaking, and at any given time in the service there might be several different people prophesying/preaching in different languages, more people translating for them, and on top of this all the wives talking to their husbands and asking for their husbands to explain this chaos to them. So in the last part of 1 Corinthians 14, Paul is trying to lay down some ground rules which suggest that if in general only one person speaks at a time then in general everyone will get a lot more benefit out of the service.
Exodus 31:15 Six days may work be done; but in the seventh [is] the sabbath of rest, holy to the LORD; whosoever doeth [any] work in the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death.
Exodus through Deuteronomy cover roughly overlapping time sequences. In Deuteronomy 15:32-36 there is a story of a man who was gathering sticks on the Sabbath. He wasn't supposed to be doing that, but the leader's didn't know what to do with him so they asked Moses, who asked God. Got told Moses the man had to be stoned. The first point about this story is that neither the leaders nor Moses knew what to do, so the law from Exodus hadn't been given yet. This story gives us some of the background on that law. Not much, so let me use my imagination and my view of God to fill in one plausible account of these events - Gathering sticks on the Sabbath is not such a big infraction, and in my opinion (I keep the Sabbath) is in most cases quite ok to do. But this man did it, and God had him stoned. Why? I'd say it's because this guy was pretty angry at these restrictions placed on him and on God in general. He probably didn't even need the sticks, he was just rebelling against the Rules and in effect saying "I'm breaking the law, what are you going to do about it?" Now God, in his infinite love, realizes that your eternal destiny is the only thing that really matters, and that this life doesn't. So if this person is already in such a mindset that he will forever be rebelling against God and never allowing himself to be saved, it is insignificant whether he gets killed now or lives a few more years. Maybe stoning him now is actually the only way in which he might be saved if he realizes his error as he is getting stoned or about to be getting stoned and has true repentence. So as far as the man is concerned, punishing him with death is not eternally significant except for the chance that he'll reconsider and be saved because of it, which is a good thing. Nothing to lose, everything to gain for him.
However, this was the first time that this law had been broken, and it was clear that the decision on this issue would affect how the Israelites viewed sin, and the Sabbath. Stoning would drive home the eternal consequences of sin home to the Israelites (humans have this way of ignoring the eternal) and hopefully deter them from making the same mistakes.
My point is that Christianity can form the basis for a consistent, logical view of life, the universe, and everything. I'm just guessing, but I'd say that your view of this stuff probably also constitutes a fairly consistent system.
So why do I believe in Christianity and not agree with you? I have basically two choices: The universe was created by some sort of God, or the universe, and all life in it, came about because of some random chain of events. Now I think, for many reasons, that evolution is incredibly improbable on astronomical proportions. I'm talking about the kind of thing where it's theoretically possible, according to quantum theory, that I could suddenly find myself transported one foot in any given direction, because electrons and such don't actually exist at a certain place but rather there are certain finite but extremely small probabilities that they are in any given place in the universe. My knowledge of quantum theory being limited I may have screwed something up, but I think the chances of evolution happening are something of one to the number of atoms in the universe or something.
You see, evolution says that we evolved from more primitive organisms and on down the line via random mutations in our DNA in which the bad ones got filtered out (natural selection) and the good ones remained. But for this to work, there has to be some mechanism for the DNA to propogate itself, and to mutate. The simplest thing capable of doing this would be a very simple cell. Simple, as far as cells go, but incredibly complex nontheless. So where did the first cell come from? Lots of structures in the cell are very interdependent on eachother, so you'd basically have to have the cell wall, it's DNA, incredibly complex enzymes that walk along this DNA and copy it in some manner, and a method to provide energy for these reactions, to name a few. None of these components can really exist without all the other ones. So, you'd have to have them spring into existence (the atoms would have to magically form into the right molecules, and so on) virtually instantly, for it to work at all.
That's one of the big reasons I don't believe in evolution. Some evolutionists also see this problem and think the first cells were seeded by some alien race or came from mars or something. I just think Creation by a God is a better explanation.
Daniel Plaisted
daniel@danielplaisted.com
* - I apologize for the runon (andonandonandon) sentence. I tend to think it's funny...
When he said his canidate had served in the military and was a governor there was a glimmer in my heart that he'd name Gov Jesse Ventura to the position. I mean really who could protect our country better than a pro wrestler? No body wants to mess with that d00d. I bet he could kick Ridge's ass too.
Your comment was true about the other story, until it was updated. I would suggest you read the links in THIS article that goes to a copy of the EULA which DOES contain this restriction. There seem to be different versions of the EULA.
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Anonymous coward, stop thinking balls before brains and check out the facts before you start posting angry comments about penguin worshippers
Clearly the president stated in his address that we are not at war with Afghanistan, but he said, "Our enemy is a radical network of terrorists, and every government that supports them." He identified al Qaeda as at the root of terrorism.
Bush also noted, "The leadership of Al Qaeda has great influence in Afghanistan and supports the Taliban regime in controlling most of that country. In Afghanistan we see Al Qaeda's vision for the world. Afghanistan's people have been brutalized, many are starving and many have fled. Women are not allowed to attend school. You can be jailed for owning a television. Religion can be practiced only as their leaders dictate. A man can be jailed in Afghanistan if his beard is not long enough."
On humantarian aid, "The United States respects the people of Afghanistan--after all, we are currently its largest source of humanitarian aid--but we condemn the Taliban regime." The US is the largest donor of aid to help the Afghans, aid that amounts to $170 million this year.
All that you suggest is good, but I think the President is way ahead of you on this
Ho hum, not that anyone seems to be too fussed anyway but here is the correct link to the JPL news item. Good luck DS1.
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