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Nintendo Declares GCN Most Popular Console Ever

PhReaKyDMoNKeY writes "According to IGNCube, Nintendo has declared GCN the fastest selling console ever. Additionally, Nintendo claims that Luigi's Mansion is the most popular launch title in history as well. I couldn't seem to find the actual press release, but here's a related news story from Nintendo's site. I don't know how valid the claim is, since it's in their best interest to exaggerate, clearly, but it seems like the console demand in general is pretty high. " Now mind you every store in town seems to have plenty of Gamecubes in stock, but if you want an X-Box, you have to kill for it. Fortunately most people in a video game store are like 12, so I can destroy them with my mind bullets.

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  1. GBA by bonzoesc · · Score: 3, Troll
    Nintendo's success is good, considering that their longtime competitor was destroyed by Sony. Good thing they have a monopoly in portable game systems to help them out, too.

    Of course, they could be lying.

  2. Mind Bullets? by Red+Avenger · · Score: 4, Funny

    What are these mind bullets you speak of and why do you want to destroy little children with them?

  3. Press Release by redink1 · · Score: 5, Informative

    The press release is available at Planet GameCube.

  4. Why you can still get them by Nerds · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Now mind you every store in town seems to have plenty of Gamecubes in stock, but if you want an X-Box, you have to kill for it.

    Two reasons:
    * Nintendo shipped about twice as many GameCubes to start with.
    * The second shippments have already arrived in many places.

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    1. Re:Why you can still get them by Otik2 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Yes, Microsoft didn't start production of the X-Box until only a few months before the GC came out, so they had hundreds of thousands fewer consoles. This is one of the reasons Nintendo delayed the GC a few days, so that they would have many more consoles available.

      All this being said, I still haven't been able to get my GC yet....

    2. Re:Why you can still get them by mvonballmo · · Score: 3, Informative

      The initial shipment of X-Boxes was 200,000, whereas the initial shipment of GameCubes was 700,000. In addition, 97% of X-Box vendors claim they sold out during the first week, whereas 49% of GameCube vendors claim to have sold out. Nintendo claims a better launch than Microsoft. That makes sense in light of the total units, no?

      Seems like there's enough numbers to prove Mark Twain correct yet again.

    3. Re:Why you can still get them by pj7 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Me: "dialing the local Target"
      Target: "some mumbo jumbo crap, a nice menu"
      Yevette: Electronics department, Yevette speaking"
      Me: Hi, how many of the new X-Boxes do you have in stock, my kids are wanting one for Christmas and I was wondering if I should wait or go ahead and pick one up now.
      Yevette: Lemme see, I see 6 in the case, and we may have a few more in the back. But with the Christmas rush coming and [I stop her there]
      Me: Okay, I'll be down to pick one up tomorrow, thanks.
      Yevette: Thank you for calling Target blah blah blah.

      What do you mean you have to kill for them?
      This is true, I actually called today before leaving work.

    4. Re:Why you can still get them by Osty · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The initial shipment of X-Boxes was 200,000, ...

      I love the way the initial shipment of XBoxes keeps decreasing in the eyes of the /. posters. First it was 350,000 units, then 300,000, and now it's only 200,000. And still Microsoft hasn't released numbers yet, so all of those are pure speculation. I'm guessing that the shipment was closer to the 350,000 mark, if not higher. As well, Microsoft is shipping 100,000 units per week through the holiday season.


      Anyway, let's just wait until Microsoft releases some numbers before we go speculating too much, eh?

    5. Re:Why you can still get them by tb3 · · Score: 4, Interesting
      Anyway, let's just wait until Microsoft releases some numbers before we go speculating too much, eh?


      Or not. Microsoft never releases sales figures. They just say "greatest" or "best ever" or other fuzzy statements. Check the article on the Reg a couple of weeks ago about Gates' keynote speech and associated press releases that played fast and lose with the XP sales figures. Microsoft won't admit the thing isn't selling until they quietly stop making the things.

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  5. Supply and Demand by CMcTortoise · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Microsoft just failed to meet the demand for the XBox. Nintendo made several hundred thousand more units, so their supply is more suited for the corresponding demand. Yeah, it might be the best selling console, but that's just because there are more units out for sale.



    And, if the Gamecube is a hundred bucks less, let Nintendo milk capitalism for all it's worth.

  6. CmdrTaco by anti11es · · Score: 5, Funny

    Fortunately most people in a video game store are like 12, so I can destroy them with my mind bullets.
    At least CmdrTaco has found some group of people he can compete with and beat.

  7. NYC by mosch · · Score: 4, Interesting
    In NYC gamecubes are possible to find, as are games. Controllers on the other hand are nowhere to be found.

    X-Box games, controllers, systems and accessories on the other hand are in every single store in midtown.

    1. Re:NYC by Nerds · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Well, I'm just out of Philly, but it's similar here, all of the electronics stores are out of GC accessories. Stragely enough, Target has plenty of them, and they're selling the controllers for thirty bucks, five dollars less than everyone else.

      Then again, I guess it makes sense for XBox stuff to be around, since a) there weren't as many XBoxes to sell at launch b) most of the people who got them were preorders and those came with a second controller anyway and c) the GC seems to have more games where people want four controllers to play with friends (Super Monkey Ball, Wave Race, and Smash Brothers next week).

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  8. Playstation 2 by Junta · · Score: 3, Insightful

    How could they do any better than Playstation2 did this early? The only way they may be selling more Gamecubes than Sony sold Playstation 2s is by having more available... Playstation 2s completely sold out for a long time... I would think it would be quite some months before you could make a call like that... Since I can go to the corner K-Mart and pick up a Gamecube, I find it hard to believe that they are doing better now than Sony did last year when there were no Playstations 2s to be had moments within hitting the shelves.
    Besides, the X-Box and Gamecube are only marginally better hardware-wise, if at all, yet the game selection is horrid thusfar. I predict it will be like the original Playsation all over again, first to market does better even in the face of superior consoles that follow, through sheer numbers of available titles.
    But if the Gamecube truly *is* more popular, we'll have to wait until about April of next year to see for sure..

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    1. Re:Playstation 2 by DarkZero · · Score: 4, Insightful
      "Biggest launch recently" and "most popular console ever" are very, very different things. Biggest launch recently? Yeah, that goes to Nintendo. But most popular console ever? I'd say that'd go to the best selling console EVER, not just the biggest console launch recently (yet certainly not ever).

      The PlayStation 2, with over 20 million consoles sold, is more popular than the GameCube. Their launch records have nothing to do with that.

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  10. The reason... by m3000 · · Score: 3, Redundant

    The reason it's easier to get a Gamecube than an Xbox is because there are a whole lot more Gamecubes to be had. Nintendo has shipped hundreds of thousands more Gamecubes than XBoxes, and so there are just plain more to sell. IGN also has an interview with a Nintendo spokeswoman about the whole thing, clarifing it a bit.

    1. Re:The reason... by krmt · · Score: 5, Funny
      Nintendo has shipped hundreds of thousands more Gamecubes than XBoxes

      Pretty smart of them in my opinion. It would have been a bad idea if Nintendo had started shipping more X-Boxes than gamecubes ;-)
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  11. More reliable source for press release by bobobobo · · Score: 4, Informative

    Here is the original press release from yahoo

    http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/cn/20011129/tc/nint en do_reports_record_gamecube_launch_1.html

  12. Mind bullets? by Mahtar · · Score: 3, Funny

    Do us all a favor and save your mind bullets for the first person to propose a bewoulf cluster of Gamecubes.

    Although, now that I mention it, that would be kinda cool--think about it, a bew--*ack*

  13. X-box isn't hard to find here by truesaer · · Score: 5, Interesting
    What microsoft is going is selling most consoles as part of a package....meaning, you have to get some number of games and accessories at the same time. This is no doubt the most profitable way to sell them.


    A friend that was visiting about two weeks ago bought one for her kids...she has lots of them, so getting 3 games and an accessory was no problem along with the console, but this bumps the total price to $500.


    Still, its interesting that they're available this year at all. Remember PS2 last year? Impossible to find!

  14. XBox is pretty popular around here, but abudant... by neema · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It seems to be all over the place. At least, the package for 500 dollars with three games and and an extra controller seems to be. The stripped down version is sold out in alot of places.

    What really pisses me off about the XBox: You can't play DVDs without that remote. You can't just use your controller. And that remote is another 40-50 dollars. Also, you can't save games without your memory card (also another 40-50 dollars). Meanwhile... doesn't the god damn thing have a hard drive built in? To be able to get the god damn console you'll have to buy a package, and the package doesn't even contain all the good stuff. It'd cost around 600 to get my ideal set up?

    No thanks.

    Maybe I'll just wait to attack the 12 year olds too. The difference: I'll wait till after they buy the XBox and walk out of the store with it to attack them.

    Me smarts.

  15. Launch success vs. system lifespan success by zsazsa · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Remember when a certain console that cost $199 at launch sold 410,000 units in the first week?

    Look where it is now.

    Not to knock it -- I love my Dreamcast, and especially now it is an incredible value.

    Ian

    1. Re:Launch success vs. system lifespan success by Jace+of+Fuse! · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I love my Dreamcast, and especially now it is an incredible value.

      I would feel my Dreamcast had MORE value to me if Sega hadn't decided to throw in the towel on the system.

      Stop making them? Okay, I can half-way understand that when there is a surplus of units.

      But to stop making games for the system though? C'mon!? Some stores have stopped stocking the games. Many of the last games to be released were cancelled. And a lot of the best games that were out for the system are no longer in stores, hard to find online, and not even in the pawn shops. All that's left on the shelves are games that nobody wanted or games that everybody has.

      Shen Mue 2 not being released though, that's the one that really bothers me.

      At least there are still emulators one can play with...

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    2. Re:Launch success vs. system lifespan success by Jerf · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Just what we need, another Dreamcast fanboy/cocksucker trying to feel better about the sorry excuse for a gaming console he has.

      What really pisses off fanboys like you is everything you've ever said is wrong. The DC rocked, and measured objectively, is currently the best console on the market by any measure except hype, and potential graphics capability.

      It's got the best games, the most games, the cheapest games, the cheapest hardware, the cheapest console by a factor of six, and the widest selection of games. The graphics simply aren't that inferior to anything else on the market right now, because one of the dirty secrets of the graphics industry is that it take about an order of magnitude improvement in graphics technology to really be noticable, and not get lost in non-optimized graphics engines.

      The only hard part is that scavenging the games is hard now. But I'll put my DC collection up against your fanboy console choice anyday. I've got more Class A games in my collection then the XBox or the Gamecube has total games, period. You can almost combine the two.

      And guess what? I can still buy one of the new ones if I want! What have you been doing the last few years?

      Dirty secret: The DC was the best console in the late nineties. If you can find the games (try used shops), it's still the best for another year or so. If jackasses like you hadn't dissed it, Sega would have been rewarded for innovation, instead of penalized by a market dominated by fanboy idiots.

  16. Uh Oh CmdrTaco by hexix · · Score: 5, Funny

    Fortunately most people in a video game store are like 12, so I can destroy them with my mind bullets.

    I hope you're not putting on the pounds, cause you're in danger of turning into the fat comic store guy from the Simpsons.

    1. Re:Uh Oh CmdrTaco by DeadMeat+(TM) · · Score: 5, Funny

      In which case it's only a matter of time before we get the option to moderate comments "-1 Worst. Comment. Ever!"

  17. The Bros. by krmt · · Score: 5, Funny

    What the hell is up with Mario and Luigi? Are they having a fight or something? When are we going to see a Super Mario Brothers game again? For this console and the last, all we've seen is them separately! Fuck that, I want multiplayer action. Not only that, I want co-op play! I want Mario and Luigi to act like they used to and be in the same game! Mario can come over to Luigi's mansion and argue over the Princess or something. Just get them back together in normal (non-kart/smash) game where they belong.

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  18. Re:XBox is pretty popular around here, but abudant by mkarpinski · · Score: 4, Informative

    You do NOT need a memory card to save games. You only need a memory card if you want to transfer your saved games to another XBox.

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  19. violence in video games? by leroybrown · · Score: 5, Funny

    but if you want an X-Box, you have to kill for it.

    ...so it's not the games that cause violence, but the actual game consoles .

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  20. Its all about supply... by Amigori · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Nintendo knows they have a popular console on their hand and to meet demand, they needed product on the store shelves to buy. Microsoft also knows this, but they wanted to try and increase demand by limiting supply. This could hurt them because the purchaser might decide to buy Gamecube instead of Xbox, only because they can get their hands on it. Plus they can get 2 more games if they get NGC instead of Xbox or they can save $100. And me being my broke college self, I'd spring for the NGC anyways. Just my 2 cents...

    Amigori

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  21. ...and counterpoint. by Nindalf · · Score: 4, Informative

    The Gord's Prophesy of the GameCube

    Love the Gord. Fear the Gord.

  22. Did CmdrTaco ever work in a Convenience store? by Nathdot · · Score: 3, Funny

    I remember reading a news article and CmdrTaco's "mind bullet" comment makes me wonder if it was him they were talking about.

    :)

  23. Parody. Not a statement of facts. by rice_burners_suck · · Score: 3, Funny

    Disclaimer: This post is either a parody or a bunch of opinions, whichever the author chooses it to be at any given time. It is a work of pure fiction and as such must not be taken as statements of fact, slander or libel. All persons, places or things mentioned herein are objects of the author's imagination. Any similarities to persons, places or things in the real world are coincidental and unintentional.

    There are tons of GameCubes in the stores, but you'll have to kill for an Xbox, eh? Well let me tell you something: Xbox is a Microsoft product, and as such, I believe it sucks. For the uninitiated, I'm a biased, zealous, and most of all, sworn by blood oath Microsoft hater... who cares though? I got 50 Karma! Of course, this is because of some of my better posts, which ironically don't include any anti-Microsoft stuff. Well at least not excessive amounts of anti-Microsoft stuff. And I do admit that one of my computers has Windows 98 on it, but only because:

    • It came preinstalled, which means I payed for it anyway. I never buy computers prebuilt but this one is a laptop. I haven't found a way to build my own laptop yet. For everything else, I first decide what purpose the thing is supposed to fulfill and then plan, buy and configure accordingly. I believe that knowing how things work, configuring them correctly, constantly increasing your knowledge and experience, improving the system, and above all, maintaining it often and properly... results in systems that work efficiently and without problems during operation. Except, of course, when running Windows. <bias off>I really, honestly do have a lot of problems with Windows locking up and crashing, when none of my other systems do. Yes, I admit that I've had problems with my other systems. They're made by humans and as such are not perfect, but when it comes down to it, I never worry about, for example, FreeBSD crashing. It just doesn't, unless I'm really pushing the system to the max and doing about 3,000 things that I really shouldn't be doing at the same time! FreeBSD has never crashed under normal circumstances by any stretch of the imagination. It really takes heavy duty abuse to bring that down. But I always worry about Windows crashing, even during "normal" operation (especially during normal operation!) and guess what? It does. Very annoying, but true.<bias on> Now where was I? Oh yeah, the reasons I actually have Windows 98 on my of my computers (and hate every time I have to boot into that defective system).
    • I need to run several programs, which currently have no non-Windows replacement that I know of. Therefore, these programs run on my poor laptop... poor because it is forced to execute Microsoft code sometimes.
    Luckily, I am writing this on a FreeBSD box, running Opera 5.0 for Linux, so you can't say I'm a hypocrite. And my laptop also runs FreeBSD and BeOS. Some of the hardware doesn't work under BeOS. Everything (to my knowledge) works under FreeBSD, thanks to the FreeBSD on Laptops site.) And I've established that I have no choice but to run Windows some of the time, due to programs which currently have no replacement, but this requirement is decreasing with every passing day, so that won't be a problem soon. Next time I get a laptop, I won't let them off so easy--I will pursue my refund from the manufacturer if it's the last thing I do.

    So where was I? Oh yeah, I was talking about how the Xbox sucks but went off on a big tangent. The Xbox sucks because it's a Microsoft product. Unless it will run Linux and NetBSD, in which case, it's quite possibly an adequate device when used as a cheap computer. Perhaps it could even serve as a good platform for graphics, as a "poor-man's SGI" (phrase shamelessly jacked--Be made that one up back in the days of their "one processor per person is not enough" days when they were still a cool company) of sorts. Anyone know how to cluster these things? (Or, even better, does anybody know how to take an Xbox, GameCube and PS2 and make one big graphics computer out of them? That would be a cool hack. Don't laugh--I know a guy who buys disposable cameras and uses the parts in real systems because it costs far less than buying the parts individually.)

    Well, here I done gone off on a tangent again. Anyway, I don't quite think that I want to support Microsoft by purchasing an Xbox. It's bad enough that I sometimes cause some of their code to be executed by allowing my laptop to boot that virus.

    Oh yeah, but there was an opposing viewpoint that I wish to include here, just so you folks don't say i'm a biased, zealous, and most of all, sworn by blood oath Microsoft hater, because that's what I am anyway. :-) Someone commented in another story that Microsoft actually loses money on each Xbox, in the hopes of making big bucks from video game sales. So even after everything else I said above, about not wanting to support them, etc., if it's true that they lose money, then I could buy an Xbox to run Linux and NetBSD and just not buy any games for it. Then, I'd actually unsupport them! I mean, hey, I might build a 10,000 Xbox cluster someday!!!

    Now let's see, I have to say something that's actually on topic, right? Hmmm, I'm at the Karma cap, so I must be doing something right, right? Well, for anybody who might be thinking of moderating this Offtopic, here's the ontopic stuff: The GameCube looks like a great toy.

    This post is Copyright 2001, rice_burners_suck. All rights reserved.

    Oh well.

  24. Re:XBox is pretty popular around here, but abudant by michael.creasy · · Score: 3, Informative

    remote is another 40-50 dollars
    Where 40-50 dollars is actually 35
    memory card (also another 40-50 dollars).
    Where 40-50 dollars is actually 35 again.
    Or even less if you're willing to shop around a bit.

  25. Re:Gamecube? I just bought a Dreamcast (thanks to by British · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I bought one myself too. I could NOT pass up a decent console for the cost of a typical x-box or gamecube game(50 bucks). Games under 10 bucks? Count me in!

    I'm happy with mine. I wonder if Sega will get some sort of incentive to produce or at least translate more DC games from its surge of sales.

  26. There is NO Xbox shortage. by IGnatius+T+Foobar · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Don't kid yourself. There is no shortage of XBoxes. Microsoft is very carefully and deliberately manipulating the distribution and marketing of the XBox to create an astroturf-like imitation of the "Tickle-me Elmo effect." They want people to believe that XBox is so hot that you'd better run out and snatch one before they're all gone, but the reality is that everyone who wants an XBox will eventually get one. Mark my words: inventory will find its way into stores in plentiful supply two weeks before Christmas.

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  27. Are you dyslexic? by Cryptnotic · · Score: 3, Insightful
    GCN isn't the acronym. What would that stand for? Game Cube Nintendo?


    No, the correct acronym is NGC (Nintendo Game Cube).

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    1. Re:Are you dyslexic? by JabXVI · · Score: 3, Informative

      Actually, GCN is the acronym Nintendo uses (their site appears to be down right now, but do a google search for "site:nintendo.com gcn" if you don't believe me). I don't get it either.

  28. Funny, lots of X-Boxes, no Cubes here... by ivan256 · · Score: 4, Funny

    There are four stores close by to my house that sell consoles. EB, Circuit City, Wal-Mart, and KB Toys. Only Wal-Mart and EB carried X-Boxes, but you can still find an X-Box or someone willing to book you one from a shipment in the next few weeks. All four of the store carry(ed) Game Cube, and all four stores have all their shipments untill christmas sold out. From what I understand Nintendo shiped more Cubes then X-Box...

    Of course it doesn't help that the local EB has blown five (5) X-Box demo kiosks since 2 weeks before release and have finally given up and dismantled the thing. (That's five blown consoles in one store in less then a month!) I know of alot of people that canceled their preorder or decided to go with a Cube because of that.

    Someday I'll own a Cube......

  29. what is there to be thankful about? by brokeninside · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Thank our lord Jesus Christ that John Ashcroft is monitoring the internet and can detect secret terrorist weapons such as 'mind bullets' in the hands of dangerous terrorists like 'Commander Taco'.
    Just for the record I was interviewed by two secret service agents today over a comment I made on another internet forum (which is temporarily down, but you can read the offending comment thanks to Google's cache.

    At the conclusion of the interview (which involved searching my house to which I aqueisced) the agents told me that probably nothing would come of it, but the decision on whether to prosecute or not was up to the attorney general's office.

    I'm still not entirely sure how my comment can be construed as an actual threat, but I do understand why secret service agents are a bit high strung about now.

    Regards,

    Lee

  30. The Gord knows all by Nindalf · · Score: 3, Insightful

    His argument is basically - Wellllll, the Playstation sold the most console ever sooooo that means the Gamecube will be the worst system ever.

    Actually, it's more like, GameCube is a less powerful system, with few games, with less developer support, which doesn't play DVDs, didn't actually have strong opening sales, is aimed primarily at small children but with inappropriately fragile media, and is trying to enter a market which is already deliriously in love with it's competition.

    Everyone who likes video games wants the PS2, and will buy the PS2 in preference to anything else. GameCube is relegated second system status in a market where few buy a second system, and then it's most commonly to correct their mistake of overenthusiastically picking up the less popular system (he backs this point up with hard numbers).

    The point that it would take a couple of years for Nintendo to sell as many GameCubes as there are PS2s out there is a bit of an aside, an explanation of why the developer support is weak, since the GameCube market is going to be miniscule compared to the PS2 market for some time.

    But the way he says it is entertaining.

    1. Re:The Gord knows all by Nindalf · · Score: 3, Insightful

      For some reason, Nintendo sold millions of consoles to people who don't like video games.

      Note that it has not yet actually sold one million GameCubes.

      Note also that you have a very weak grasp on the difference between hard facts and vague marketing hype.

  31. Or Maybe They're Just Misplaced by krmt · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This wouldn't surprise me, but given the fact that it's readily available in some places and less so in others, my guess is that they didn't have the marketing data to ship the right amount of units to the right areas. Some places they overshipped, others they undershipped. All in all, I'd bet you're right that there's enough supply, but I think that the supply just isn't where it needs to be at present.

    I think all their crafty marketing tricks are involved in over-advertising the thing, to the degree where there are X-Box banners and fliers everywhere, but nary a gamecube one to be found. They just spent so much money that they saturated the ad space. That's what creates the illusion that they're so hot, walking in to the store and seeing big green X's everywhere will overwhelm most people.

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  32. Flavor? by SuperKendall · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Saying you don't like the "flavor" of current PS2 games is just about like saying the only flavor you do like is white bread and water!

    Don't get me wrong, I'm definatley in the camp with GC being more powerful than the PS2 and will probably get one befoore too long. But the PS2 has quite a broad range of truly great titles - take Devil May Cry, MGS2, Frequency, SSX Tricky (GC also), Grand Theft Auto 3, ICO (amazing adventure puzzle game, light action), GT3, Rayman, Twisted Metal Black, Klonoa 2 (GREAT 2d/3d platformer), Zone Of The Enders, Herdy Gerdy (OK, not out yet but looks to be amazing). I left out a lot of decent games that while not amazing, are at least fun to play.

    Granted, there's nothing like Pikimin or Luigi's Castle for the PS2 (unique games like that is a great reason to get a GC). But I have to say there's a lot of great variety out for the PS2 to satisfy just about any taste, even not considering the rather huge PlayStation library you have access to as a bonus.

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  33. I know this is Slashdot, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    OK, now let's at least be reasonable, and try to get our facts straight. Coming off as fanatics is not politic in today's climate, and fanatics are usually the ones who make up facts and get all upset about them without anybody bothering to check them against reality.

    Wednesday night I paid $29.99 for my DVD remote kit at Target. I have been saving games since launch day on the hard drive without a memory card.

    Now, start looking at your criticisms and think: Can I save PS2 games without a memory card? Will any amount of money allow my GC to play DVDs? This sort of rabid mentality adds to the ammunition of those who think the open source movement is populated only by irrational zealots.

    Regarding bundling:
    I bought my XBOX on the morning of the launch at a Wal-Mart with just the console, an extra controller, and one game, exchanging my TRU pre-order bundle deposit for another game, though they would have been happy to just refund my $. TRU was ecstatic that I cancelled and one clerk was dialing the next guy on the list before the first clerk had finished ringing up my game, so it was possible to do an end run around the bundles, and I don't see anything about post-launch bundling at all...where are these people shopping?

    On competition:
    A cheer rings out on /. everytime a new competitor springs up in the software market. Why would we want Sony / Nintendo to just draw a line at age 12 and agree to let Sony have those above and Nintendo have those below? Why isn't it a good thing that Microsoft is climbing in over the corpse of the Dreamcast?