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Royal Institute Christmas Lectures

category9 writes "One of the best xmas tv highlights for us chaps in the UK is the RI Christmas Letures. Once broadcast by the BBC, Channel4 now have the helm. Past lecturers include the world renowed cybernetics engineer, Prof. Kevin Warwick. This year Sir John Sulston, of Human Genome Project fame, will be talking about genetics and the building blocks of life over 5 lectures. This is a must see for anyone interested in artificial intelligence. The lectures are presented in a format which allows technical detail, but in a way very accessible to those outside the particilar scientific fields. The website has transcripts for anyone not able to receive Channel4, perhaps with streams coming at a later date (lobby Channel4 if you must)."

147 comments

  1. the us sucks. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    i really wish the US would have something like that.. oh, and first post!

    1. Re:the us sucks. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's called Discovery Science, Discovery, TLC, etc...

    2. Re:the us sucks. by mcdermr · · Score: 1

      We have a Dish at work (I work at a cell store) and we get the BBC but I don't know if it was on. Not to mention the fact that I wasn't here.

  2. IMHO by rastachops · · Score: 1

    It seemed a bit bland this year, I saw some of Adam-hart Davis' program on BBC2 by accident, which seemed more interesting even though it lacked depth, before switching over to C4. Maybe some of the other lectures will be more entertaining.

    1. Re:IMHO by Zanek · · Score: 1

      I'd love to see how he can tie genetics into AI.

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  3. Re:the us sucks. - flamebait, troll, whatever by mokyar · · Score: 0

    Give me a break. you are really not serious
    about Discovery channel, right?!

  4. Genetics and AI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What does genetics have to do with AI?

  5. Re:the us sucks. - flamebait, troll, whatever by mcdermr · · Score: 1

    I have to agree. The Discovery channel doesn't cover anything like this. They always have some dumbed down version of everything "science" that pre-schoolers can understand. I have yet to find a discovery program that confuses me or makes me look up words on the 'Net or a dictionary. The Discovery channel IMHO is good to get people interest but not to go in depth into anything.

  6. When will the Ogg Vorbis streaming be available? by 2Bits · · Score: 2
    It would be interesting, but when you can't watch it.

  7. Re:the us sucks. - flamebait, troll, whatever by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Discovery Science and Discovery Wings is pretty good, alot more technical than just plain Discovery. No show on tv is going to start throwing out equations at you

  8. Re:the us sucks. - flamebait, troll, whatever by Soulfader · · Score: 1

    I don't think you can get a hell of a lot more dumbed down than "Professor" Kevin Warwick.

  9. HMm by Zanek · · Score: 1

    "This year Sir John Sulston, of Human Genome Project fame, will be talking about genetics and the building blocks of life over 5 lectures. This is a must see for anyone interested in artificial intelligence. " The only way I can see him tieing this into AI is by describing the parallels between neural nets and low order organisms Kick ass website

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  10. .uk domains... by Brendan+Byrd · · Score: 1

    Does this mean that UK's Boxing Day is over and everybody can surf the *.uk sites again? :)

  11. Kevin Warwick is a self-promoting egotistical hack by strags · · Score: 0
  12. Re:the us sucks. - flamebait, troll, whatever by mcdermr · · Score: 1

    There should be. I would watch a show/channel that actually made me think, even a little. But for the most part they don't. Once in a blue moon a decent program comes on that makes you think about the topic that they are talking about, but they are all for entertainment. Um... isn't that what TV is for? Nevermind, my fire on this just went out.

  13. Kev by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Kevin Warwick is renowned alright... renowed for being a media whore and buffoon.

  14. Captain Cyborg by Sanity · · Score: 4, Informative
    Past lecturers include the world renowed cybernetics engineer, Prof. Kevin Warwick.
    *Snigger*

    You clearly don't read The Register. Warwick is a joke in the Artificial Intelligence community, regarded by most as little more than a publicity hound. He used to go around saying that we would all be human slaves in a robot nation by the year 2000. At the time he came to my university to debate some of the professors in our Artificial Intelligence department, and they mopped the floor with him.

    Having milked the world of Artificial Intelligence for all the publicity it was worth, he then installed one of those chips they use for tracking dogs in his arm and started claiming that he was the first Cyborg...

    Do a search for "Captain Cyborg" at The Register to learn more about this guy, he gives science a bad name.

    1. Re:Captain Cyborg by ctid · · Score: 1
      Unfortunately, he's very convincing to non-techie people. A friend of mine who does an IT-support job was telling me about this brilliant speaker she saw at a conference. He had gone on about robots and cyborgs and artificial intelligence and all sorts of things. It was only when she mentioned that he was working on turning himself into a cyborg that the penny dropped and I was able to point out that not everyone was convinced by his "experiments".


      By the way, The Register isn't available via its usual URL at the moment. So here's a direct link to some of their Kevin Warwick coverage.

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    2. Re:Captain Cyborg by dsb3 · · Score: 1

      Try the (ahem) Kevin Warwick Watch: www.kevinwarwick.org.uk if you want something more interesting than www.kevinwarwick.org.

      FEAR KEVIN

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    3. Re:Captain Cyborg by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Unfortunately, he's very convincing to non-techie people
      For example, he has convinced Slashdot's audience and editors.
  15. Dumbed down for the masses. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    I'm afraid that the BBC has 'dumbed down' these lecutres to the point where they convey no useful scientific information whatsoever. It is sad but true.

    Perhaps when the BBC has to fight for its funding in the marketplace like other TV stations instead of relying on the forced taxation of millions of British TV viewers, maybe then it will come up with quality science programming.

    Until then, make sure your 'TV License' is up to date British slashdot readers :-)

    1. Re:Dumbed down for the masses. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      TV license. ahaha. What will those wacky brits think of next.

    2. Re:Dumbed down for the masses. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      For real, can you believe this shit ? I always thought that whole 'license to watch TV' thing was a joke, a satire on the UK's socialist government. But no. It is actually true, you need a license to watch TV.

      I wonder, can it be revoked ? Like if you don't watch the right shows ? Or for 'irresponsible viewing' :-)

      Seriously though, I can not believe that the people over there willingly pay this. It's like if the US govt forced all cable subscribers to pay for CNN. Insane.

      Just one more reason I am glad to be an American.

    3. Re:Dumbed down for the masses. by drsoran · · Score: 1

      "Using television receiving equipment to receive or record broadcast television programmes without the correct license is a criminal offense."

      This site has got to be a joke. I can't believe even the socialist Brits would do anything this nuts. Check out their roaming "detector vans". :-) Do the secret police beat down your door and arrest you if you don't have your license up to date? Please, someone tell me this is a joke. A license to watch a TV. hahahaha.

    4. Re:Dumbed down for the masses. by The+Unknown+Anorak · · Score: 2, Informative

      Until the majority of people in the country have an interest in science beyond 'press the button, the box in the corner soothes my confused little mind,' the BBC will remain the only station in this country that's purely committed to public service broadcasting. Can you see ITV broadcasting the RI lectures, or 'What the Romans did for us'? Can you even see UK Horizons, a supposed science channel, broadcasting anything more advanced than Robot Wars or Scrapheap Challenge? Of course not. The mongo on the street doesn't give a shit about cybernetics or astrophysics, he just wants to know whether Charlene is shagging Mandy Dingle. And sadly, by demographic, the mongos have more spending power, by dint of greater numbers, than the people who would be interested in true science. That's what the BBC is there to safeguard.

      The 'enforced taxation' troll you dangle so enticingly is the same mechanism that's allowing the BBC to test Ogg streaming, provide one of the world's best news websites, and provide programming for minorities in this country - whether they be minorities by race, age, religion or intellect. If you want a (nearly) pure commercial entertainment look at digital TV - wave after wave of Temptation Island and When Animals Attack. Can you see Sky One dedicating an evening to science more serious than Voyager?

      Frankly the only problem with the BBC is BBC1's strategy of chasing ratings. That's what should be left to ITV and the commercial operators. Leave public service broadcasting to the public.

      And anyway, aren't the Christmas Lectures supposed to be to introduce children to science?

      Oh, and Kevin Warwick is an attention grabbing buffon. Ithankyou.

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    5. Re:Dumbed down for the masses. by t_allardyce · · Score: 1

      Yes, but then we don't have crap tv.. so it kinda pays off. you pay for cable/sat/digital? its the same principle, except they managed to get in early. Even with paying for cable and such, you guys still get adverts every five minutes. Even commercial (sic) channels over here only have them every 10-15, and none of those stupid info-mercials (again, spelling?) saying "praise the lord, and give him $50, because the lord is almighty.. but he needs $50 dollers (we take all major credit cards except discover)"

      There are so many other things that you pay for with out realising, where the fuck do you think your taxes go? (oh yeah, i forgot, they go into bush's pocket lol)

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    6. Re:Dumbed down for the masses. by michael.creasy · · Score: 2

      Yes, just over 100 pounds for a few good channels, compared to over $480 a year (~$40 a month) for a hundred crap ones here in the US. As far as paying for television goes I'd much rather have the UK system over the US system anyday.

      It's this fee that has enabled the BBC to produce great television and not have to have any adverts. Thats right a quality TV station that doesn't have any adverts (apart from ones for BBC properties). It's the license fee that pays for http://news.bbc.co.uk. I think the license fee is great value for money.

      No they don't beat down your door, in fact if they just show up at your door they can't come in without a warrant, unless they can see a television. Even if you don't have a license they just ask you to get one, if you don't they take you to court and you are ordered to get one, if you still don't you get a bigger fine and eventually jail.

    7. Re:Dumbed down for the masses. by The+Unknown+Anorak · · Score: 1

      And yet, per thousand head of population, our murder rates are far below those of the US. Odd, that.

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    8. Re:Dumbed down for the masses. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And sadly, by demographic, the mongos have more spending power, by dint of greater numbers, than the people who would be interested in true science. That's what the BBC is there to safeguard.

      No one who is interested in "true science" gets their information from TV. Not to mention that freedom is far more valuable than any TV program will ever be.

    9. Re:Dumbed down for the masses. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yeah, if mommy and daddy government tells you you can't defend yourself with a gun, you guys just take it lying down. Pathetic.

    10. Re:Dumbed down for the masses. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I am not forced to pay for cable though. In fact, the majority of what I use my television for is watching DVDs. From the sounds of their TV licensing web page it looks like you need a license whether you're watching broadcast TV or cable or even video tapes. In the US we choose whether we want to support crappy programming by donating money to PBS rather than having it forcefully taken from us (i.e. tv tax). I've seen British shows on the BBC over DirecTV and I'd have to say I'd be pretty appalled to see my tax dollars going to produce that boring cruft. See, in the US people watch channels with advertising because the shows are actually interesting not because they feel obligated to get their money's worth. ;-)

    11. Re:Dumbed down for the masses. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It isn't a joke. And it isn't just Britain, either.

    12. Re:Dumbed down for the masses. by alexmeaden · · Score: 1

      Most Britons would gladly pay a TV license rather than watch adverts every 5 minutes. It's certainly worth it for that (the license pays for the BBC, whose channels have no adverts on).

    13. Re:Dumbed down for the masses. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you pay for cable/sat/digital?

      That's by choice. The police don't come around in "detection vans" and fine us up to 1000 lbs. for owning a damn TV.

      Don't get me wrong... I'm not saying the US is a bastion of freedom but it's certainly better than the UK for the moment anyways. The UK is simply a little bit further along in it's authoritarianism and socialism than the US.

    14. Re:Dumbed down for the masses. by leastsquares · · Score: 1

      The BBC didn't dumb-down anything. These are the Royal Institute Christmas lectures which just so happened to be broadcast by the BBC. (Initially on radio and more recently on TV)

      Why don't the BBC broadcast these anymore? Who knows. Someone obviously thought it was a good ideas to stop a hugely popular braodcast. Luckily C4 have some sense. The only problem is the annoying commercials that the BBC is free of.

    15. Re:Dumbed down for the masses. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      All of Western Europe is socialist. They seem to think that the government is there to take care of all their needs. What a bunch of little babies.

    16. Re:Dumbed down for the masses. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are paying for the device that recives radio signals, not the 'TV'. Thats why we should get all 'free' (ad based) UK TV channels to webcast :)

    17. Re:Dumbed down for the masses. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Most Britons would gladly pay a TV license rather than watch adverts every 5 minutes. It's certainly worth it for that (the license pays for the BBC, whose channels have no adverts on).

      ...and the ones that won't get fined and tossed in jail. "Most Britons" are evidently pretty fucking stupid.

    18. Re:Dumbed down for the masses. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Bwahahahaha!!

      WTF do you need a government for then? All governments take care of their citizens needs. Moron.

      The UK is a great little country, that's why you a) visit it, b) all want to live here and c) call it the 51st state.

    19. Re:Dumbed down for the masses. by mlk · · Score: 1

      You pay for the device capable of receiving radio signals within a certain range. So if all you wanted was to watch dvd's, buy a 'puter with a big screen (Apple's 22" flat screen, YUM!).
      You use to have to pay for Radio (as in audio) but that was a long time ago.

      I'll let you argue over which way is best (Tax TV, pay-for (sky and the like), or completely advert-based TV (Americans have that I believe?). Personal I don't mine paying when you get stuff like Lost World (on last night VERY good) and the like, but it sure is a lot of pennies.

      mlk

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    20. Re:Dumbed down for the masses. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Aw cut the crap, it's just part of our culture. It's always been that way and no-one gives a damn about it - 'cept all those people who don't pay ;)

      "Most Britons" are evidently pretty fucking stupid.

      You really do not want to know what we think about you guys... where shall I start? Abuse of superpower status, ignorance of all things non-American - some guy I met in London thought it was the capital of Paris!?!? What?

    21. Re:Dumbed down for the masses. by drsquare · · Score: 1

      No, you don't get a few good channels. You get two channels (unless you have digital or sky), and if you think they're any better than the other channels you're dellusional. It's just ITV and Channel 4 but without the adverts.

      I wouldn't mind, but you have to pay for it even if you don't watch it! I mean, what the fuck?

    22. Re:Dumbed down for the masses. by drsquare · · Score: 1

      If you think the BBC is any better than ITV or Channel 4 you're delusional. The only decent programs are on in the middle of the night, and even then most of the time you get teletext with crap music, or the testcard.

      If you think it's worth paying over a hundred quid a year for endless gardening programs, cookery programs, soaps, repeats and fly-on-the-wall documentaries, you're wrong in the head.

    23. Re:Dumbed down for the masses. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      PS - why do brits all talk and act like they're homosexual deviants?

      Haha. PBS had the BBC nightly news on a couple days ago(and an American I have to admit is probably the best news broadcast out there) and I was just listening, not watching. I thought it was a guy doing the report from afghanistan, but it was a woman. There is no difference from how British men and women speak.
      AHAHAH!

    24. Re:Dumbed down for the masses. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      It's a losing proposition either way. You Europeans give us shit if we _interfere_ with other countries or if we go isolationist.

      Maybe if you guys across the pond had something of interest for us, maybe we would pay more attention

      What's this "abuse of superpower status"? Your such a wanker. Your just pissed that the British empire no longer exists and are jealous of America's greatness.

    25. Re:Dumbed down for the masses. by The+Unknown+Anorak · · Score: 1

      If you're only watching BBC1, I quite agree - that's why I said it shouldn't be chasing ratings. What about Radios 1-5, BBCi, Local Radio, BBC2, the non-commercial digital channels, DAB tests, the Open University, BBC Publications, etc etc etc.

      Or look at it this way - if you didn't pay your hundred quid a year, ITV would only have to worry about competing with channel 5 (Channel 4 is a minority market that they wouldn't worry about). How good would TV be then?

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    26. Re:Dumbed down for the masses. by The+Unknown+Anorak · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      So you're saying we're the stupid, passive ones because a smaller percentage of us get murdered?

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    27. Re:Dumbed down for the masses. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      PS - why do brits all talk and act like they're homosexual deviants?

      They do? Oh, I see why you might think so. Well, it's not our fault we dont have small penises to overcompensate for.

    28. Re:Dumbed down for the masses. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't know, why do americans all talk and act like a sad bunch of redneck hillbillies?

    29. Re:Dumbed down for the masses. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are you calling the slaying of 10 innocent children EVERY SINGLE DAY a justifiable sacrifice for the right to be armed?!

      With a straight face, tell that to the thousands of parents that have lost their children because some lunatic decided to end it all and taking a few kids with him.

      Remember that one day, that could be your kid lying dead in the street.

    30. Re:Dumbed down for the masses. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd really like to see you try and shoot your authorities if you don't like them. I'll guarantee you'll make the news at 6, but don't expect to be called a hero there, try "mad gunman" on for size.

    31. Re:Dumbed down for the masses. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      they don't understand. the europeans have been brain-washed into their socialist _solutions_

    32. Re:Dumbed down for the masses. by t_allardyce · · Score: 1

      Socialist?

      from a country that has the dmca and the death penalty? i prefer having my human rights, and a leader who has more to life than just wanting to ride air-force one.

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    33. Re:Dumbed down for the masses. by njdj · · Score: 1

      Most Britons would gladly pay a TV license rather than watch adverts every 5 minutes

      Your comment is a perfect illustration of unthinking acceptance of collectivist/totalitarian arguments.

      The whole point of a free society is that the majority ("Most Britons") should not get to impose their will on everyone else, in matters which are not essential to the preservation of the rule of law etc.

      Note that I'm not saying that the US is exemplary in this regard (I'm not an American). But there does seem to be more awareness of the value of personal liberty among Americans than among Brits.

    34. Re:Dumbed down for the masses. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Unfortunately, that is. I _always_ watched the RI lectures (even though I am 25). Because it explains (without the quantative shit) complex phenomenons and systems. It is a real shame they pulled it of the BBC!!!!!

    35. Re:Dumbed down for the masses. by Howie · · Score: 2

      IIRC, you still do have to pay for a radio license, but only if you don't have a TV license. Radio licenses are about 6 quid or something silly. It's been a while since I read the form, but that was certainly the case only a few years ago.

      Other license trivia: there is a discount on a TV license for blind people, but it is only of about £10 [about as scary as the drive-through ATM we used on holiday in Tennessee with Braille-embossed buttons].

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    36. Re:Dumbed down for the masses. by mlk · · Score: 1

      eak!

      /mlk hids his radio under the floor boards.

      If you are after free TV in the UK, use a TV which is completely battery powered, and has no option for mains.

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    37. Re:Dumbed down for the masses. by funky+womble · · Score: 1
      Forced taxation? What, do you really think that the cost of advertising adding to the prices of goods and services *isn't* forced taxation? (by posting here, you already demonstrate that you aren't living sufficiently off-the-grid to having avoided contributing to the cost of tv).

      I don't think fighting for funding is going to do anything at all to contribute to quality science programming... BBC (including the radio, which probably has more quality science than TV, and of course *doesn't* need a license) and C4 (both with public service commitments) are the only place for quality science programming in .uk. Don't really see much of that on ITV, Discovery, etc. (In fact, with Discovery you're paying for the channel *on top of* advertising! Wow, isn't that great. And the number of subscribers to satellite/cable tv proves that people are happy to pay to watch channels).

    38. Re:Dumbed down for the masses. by funky+womble · · Score: 1
      Any BBC shows shown in the US are obviously specially selected to be watched by people who watch USian tv... ;-)

      It really *really* sucks that DVD players don't have a 15-pin VGA connector on them though.

    39. Re:Dumbed down for the masses. by funky+womble · · Score: 1
      £10 discount for blind people is a discount of about a third on the £35 a black-and-white license costs. (Unless for some strange reason they're using a colour tv, such as maybe so that non-blind people living in the same house can watch programs in colour, in which case the charge is really kind-of fair enough).

      Mind you, they could always just buy a radio covering the relevant bands and pay nothing... (Though it would probably be easier to pay to avoid having to convince licensing officials they really don't have a tv - that's probably one of the worst things about the licensing system).

    40. Re:Dumbed down for the masses. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Note that I'm not saying that the US is exemplary in this regard (I'm not an American). But there does seem to be more awareness of the value of personal liberty among Americans than among Brits.

      Oh dear, this is from the wonderful country who gave us the DMCA? Gee I love the personal liberty empowered in that act!

      On a more serious note, the UK license fee is merely another form of taxation, with a difference. The difference being that for once the tax payers see exactly what they are paying for. In this case we are recieving quality television. I pay for cable in the uk (at cost equal to, or more, than the tv license) and by far the best programs come from the BBC, closely followed by ITV and Channel4 (other free terestorial chanels), followed a LONG way behind by cable channels. In fact, at least 90% of my viewing comes from channels I can watch after paying my tv license. Go figure...

      In actual fact, most Britoms actually do appreciate the BBC, even given for the fact they have to pay for them.

  16. Re:the us sucks. - flamebait, troll, whatever by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Of course TV is for entertainment. Who the hell is entertained by "Royal Institute Christmas Lectures"?? If I wanted to learn anything I'd go to college but TV is for keeping me entertained. Preferably shows with big breasted blonde women and comedies.. both if possible. Maybe football.

  17. Really cool. by WasterDave · · Score: 2

    I went to these as a kid, very cool lectures covering some suprisingly difficult stuff with the usual obfuscating crap removed. It was also the only time I got to see TV crews and the amount of hassle it takes to make television, so a learning process on two fronts. If you can get to see one or two of these lectures, do.

    Downside: Eventually you get to university and get taught exactly the same thing with the obfuscating crap put back in again. By the same people.

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  18. Prof. Kevin Warwick ... by blowdart · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    World renowned? Oh please. Within the UK community the man is a joke.

    I hardly feel sticking a chip in your arm makes you a cyborg, otherwise we have a lot of cybernetic dogs out there.

  19. The Register is down... by Brendan+Byrd · · Score: 1

    That would be nice if it was up today. What's up with that? It's been down all day today. I need my daily dose of The Register like I need my dose of Slashdot.

    1. Re:The Register is down... by WasterDave · · Score: 2

      The Reg's IP and the latest rumours on their demise were discussed here: http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=25327&cid=2751 007

      Dave

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    2. Re:The Register is down... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      are you an attbi customer? it seems to be down for me too, but when google and other common sites often give me 'unknown host' errors, i begin to think that the morons at att are having problems with their dns servers.

  20. It works for me by Sanity · · Score: 2

    I have been reading it all morning.

    1. Re:It works for me by _xeno_ · · Score: 2, Informative
      Caching nameservers are nice like that - it works for me where I work because the nameservers are very slow to update themselves.

      If I SSH to my school, which does not cache domain names, I get the following:

      Server: non-caching.name.server
      Address: 192.168.1.1

      *** non-caching.name.server can't find www.theregister.co.uk: Non-existent host/domain

      Whereas if I run the same command here, I get:

      Server: caching.name.server
      Address: 192.168.1.2

      Non-authoritative answer:
      Name: www.theregister.co.uk
      Address: 213.40.196.64

      So those without it cached can read it via http://213.40.196.64/ or you can just add it to /etc/hosts or %SYSTEMROOT%\system32\drivers\etc\hosts

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  21. Genetics and AI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This will probably be left as an exercise for the viewer.

  22. John Sulston is probably best known for... by myc · · Score: 3, Informative
    his work on the anatomy of the soil nematode Caenorhabditis elegans . C. elegans is a simple roundworm that has only ~1000 somatic cells, of which ~300 are neurons. It was originally chosen as a modern model organism to study behavior, beacause of the simplicity of its nervous system. In the worm research community, Sir John is most reknowed for his serial electron micrograph reconstruction of all of the synaptic connections of all 302 neurons of the worm. Thus it is mostly due to his work that C. elegans is the ONLY organism in which scientists know the entire anatomy (that is, the wiring diagram) of the nervous system.

    On a related note, at a recent C. elegans seminar I attended, the speaker made mention of Sir John, saying (to paraphrase) "Only Sulston is interested in these long boring projects, like serial EM reconstructions and the human genome project". Said in jest, of course :)

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    1. Re:John Sulston is probably best known for... by category9 · · Score: 1

      Its nice too see someone else who has followed his works.

  23. RI website by CatherineCornelius · · Score: 4, Informative
    This page on the Royal Institution website has information on obtaining videos of past lectures. Channel 4 will make the current lecture series available on video in due course.

    RI is a quaint, somewhat ruritanian institution. Most of the membership are rather stuffy and insist on wearing formal evening dress to the discourses, and there is a tradition that no questions are taken from the floor (you have to buttonhole the speaker afterwards). The staff and the Director, on the other hand. are very unfussy and very helpful. The Director is Susan Greenfield, who is known as a broadcaster on neurology. They do have a lovely old building in Albemarle Street, however, with an absolutely excellent Faraday museum. Research into inorganic chemistry is still carried out in the basement where Faraday had his original labs.

  24. re:warwick by wickedhobo · · Score: 1

    my damn dog has one of these chips, and he's definitely more entertaining (and prbably smarter) than warwick

    --

    --Stupidity is Self Curing!
  25. kevin warwick by category9 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    perhaps there was a slight hint at sarcasm in my reference to kevin warwick, but we all love him really. he even offered me a place on his course at Reading uni. i decided against.
    when i said AI, i kind of meant neural nets, alife, and such things. i admit i could have worded it better. oh well, its a first article for me, better luck next time.

    1. Re:Kevin Warwick by Sanity · · Score: 2
      I'm getting pissed off with people attacking Kevin Warwick. Yes, even those who know him affectionately refer to him as 'Mad' Kevin. But it's not like he's attacked anyone, has exibited aggressive behaviour in public, or has really done anything to deserve such harsh criticism. (Such as, oh, Derek Smart.)
      People are not attacking him because he has exhibited aggressive behavior, but because he makes wild and unsubstantiated self-serving claims thus discrediting everyone else in his field of study.
      Yes, some of his ideas are bit outlandish.
      The problem is that his ideas are only outlandish in the sense that he presents them as new or innovative, when they are not. For example, what is so innovative about implanting a device in his arm that people have been implanting in dogs for quite a while? The only value of such a thing is to get him more exposure in the popular press, it certainly does not have any scientific value.
      The field of cybernetics needs evangelists to attract attention and to help it to grow.
      Perhaps, but not evangelists who misrepresent their own achievements, and make unsubstantiated claims of the type Warwick does. Such "evangelism" only serves to devalue the field's standing when it fails to realise the expectations created by such claims.
      it's merely a matter of when the technology will catch up to his ideas, as is the case with 90% of science-fiction.
      And many of his ideas are indeed from science fiction. Fiction written by other people but presented as his own creations by Warwick.
      Although, no, I don't eventually think that robots will enslave humans - but I still think we need to think about such things.
      Perhaps we should think about such things, but that doesn't justify misrepresenting the liklihood of it happening anytime soon as Warwick did in his book "March of the Machines".
      Nobody knows what pace progress will take. Cybernetics is an artificial science just like computer science - the limit is effectively the limits of our imagination and how long our species exists to dream.
      Unfortunately Warwick's imagination only seems to extend to how he can appropriate and misrepresent other people's ideas as his own to further his quest for publicity.
    2. Re:kevin warwick by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I couldn't watch last year's shows. Warwick is too BORING a speaker to listen to for long. It's this long low monotone for hours on end.

    3. Re:Kevin Warwick by tagishsimon · · Score: 2
      But he runs one of few cybernetics departments in the entire world. You'd expect his ideas and focus to be completely different from computer science AI departments around the world. The difference is subtle but important.

      And what is that difference?

      You can't comment on what his department do internally, because as a former student - to coin a phrase - it's very, very good shit they get up to, if a little more grounded than Kevin's bluesky concepts.

      I can, you know. I worked with Reading people long before you did your 'O' Levels; and still drink, regularly enough, with people in the department. They see Warwick as a threat to their research funding - which is why he's a wee bit semi-detached nowadays. However, we were not commenting on the Department (though don't tempt me into an MIT versus Reading rant), but on the person (don't tempt me into a Rod Brooks vs Warwick rant).

      Warwick is a media whore, and deserves the contempt that goes with that tag. Based on his own work, he deserves (at best) to be a plodding lecturer; he debases the currency of the Chair.

    4. Re:Kevin Warwick by Winged+Cat · · Score: 1

      People are not attacking him because he has exhibited aggressive behavior, but because he makes wild and unsubstantiated self-serving claims thus discrediting everyone else in his field of study.

      Name one instance where he has discredited anyone else in his field of study. He may be pushing for the state of the art to be more advanced than it is, but he doesn't say that it is more advanced. Frankly, without the PR that he brings the field (even if the PR goes to him as a representative), funding for real cybernetics research would likely dry up. It's like with NASA: they have to do some things that capture the public imagination, or they couldn't get funding to do real space science. (Not that they've been all that responsible with the money they do get, but that's another thread.)

      For example, what is so innovative about implanting a device in his arm that people have been implanting in dogs for quite a while?

      Ever heard of the difference between animal trials and human trials for drugs? Dog biology and human biology aren't 100% identical. Yes, this was a small step, but it's a step that needed to be done.

    5. Re:Kevin Warwick by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Name one instance where he has discredited anyone else in his field of study"

      Sure - people who pass exams at Reading University but then wonder if their qualifications are worth less because people less easily fooled than yourself are aware of how much of a jerk he is.

    6. Re:Kevin Warwick by Winged+Cat · · Score: 1

      He isn't doing the discrediting in that case. He isn't even responsible for it. Other people discredit based on association with Warwick, perhaps, but that's their decision, not his.

  26. Re:the us sucks. - flamebait, troll, whatever by drsquare · · Score: 1

    If it's anything like the normal discovery channel, it will be unwatchable due to all the FUCKING ADVERTS. You can barely watch it without 15 minute advert breaks cropping up every 5 minutes. It's almost painful to watch.

  27. Did you read the story? by Sanity · · Score: 2

    Just from reading the story posted above it seems that in-fact, Channel 4, ITV's cousin, is now broadcasting these lectures...

    1. Re:Did you read the story? by The+Unknown+Anorak · · Score: 1

      The point I was address was about the license fee, which does not cover Channel 4, which is a commercial broadcaster with a social affairs remit under its licence to broadcast.

      --
      If a tree falls in the forest, and it falls on a mime, does anyone care?
    2. Re:Did you read the story? by The+Unknown+Anorak · · Score: 1

      And in fact ITV and Channel 4 are separate entities, although they are both governed by the same regulatory body.

      --
      If a tree falls in the forest, and it falls on a mime, does anyone care?
    3. Re:Did you read the story? by Richy_T · · Score: 2

      And in fact, although channel 4 is commercial, it is owned by the government.

      Rich

  28. Re:Kevin Warwick is a self-promoting egotistical h by Gid1 · · Score: 2

    From KW's 'Achievements' page:

    "Britain's leading profit of the Robot Age" so called by Gillian Anderson (X-Files)

    Nice misspelling, there...

  29. Ugh. by Ozeh · · Score: 1

    In the past I've been quite a fan of the RI Xmas lectures. What a pity that they now involve Warwick. The profiteering, egotistical, megalomaniacal cur.

    --
    Life is thus,
    Death is thus,
    Poem or no poem
    What's the fuss?
    1. Re:Ugh. by iapetus · · Score: 2

      He gave the lectures one year, and it wasn't actually as bad as I might have expected (decided to watch them for comedy value as much as anything else).

      --
      ++ Say to Elrond "Hello.".
      Elrond says "No.". Elrond gives you some lunch.
  30. Dirty BBC bastards by rde · · Score: 2, Funny

    I got home from work just in time for the Christmas lecture, this morning, only to find that our friends on the BBC had started a similar science programme half an hour beforehand. It was called Come to Your Senses and it was pretty good. Unfortunately, it means I missed most of the damn Lecture.
    Maybe it's just my misanthropic nature, but I can't think of any reason for putting on such a similar programme at the same time that doesn't involve fucking over Channel 4.
    Offtopic? Perhaps. But I'm bitter, and needed to get it off my chest.

    On an unrelated matter, I recently got hold of the book of a series of Christmas Lectures given by Sir William H. Bragg in the 1920s. It's noteable for the fact that it's not afraid of explaining maths to the audience. He also wrote The Universe of Light, a popular science book that contains actual equations!.

    1. Re:Dirty BBC bastards by dunstan · · Score: 1

      The programme you mention (Come to your Senses) is a prime example of the BBC creating a middlebrow personality (Adam Hart Davies) and then using them to brand programme series (Starting with Local Heroes - which both I and my children enjoyed, through What the Romans did for us ... What the Victorians did ...). They then wheel out their "personality" and use them as a spoiler against another programme which is standing on its content.

      But then they have a pretty cynical approach to viewers anyway - someone will decide to kill off a popular programme (e.g. Mastermind) and take a familiar pattern. First you move it around the schedule - if it's a programme enjoyed by older viewers then you should shift it to a late evening slot after they've gone to bed. Then you shift it to a different night. Then you miss a couple of weeks for some sporting event, so that people who make a point of watching the programme don't know whether it's on or not. This should lose you enough viewers that you can say "finished due to falling audiences".

      Dunstan

      --
      The last scintilla of doubt just rode out of town
  31. If you get one, get the 1994 one. by wackybrit · · Score: 1

    1994 Journey to the Centre of the Brain
    Dr. Susan Greenfield

    That was, IMHO, the best RI Xmas lecture of them all. Since then, Greenfield has been in the media a lot more (but not in the way Kevin Warwick has) and is certainly a revered expert on matters of the brain.

    Much of this lecture contained comparisons of brains and computers, and the way in which they may work together in the future. There were also a lot of practicals.

    It's when they're about geology, 'how the earth was formed', plant or human biology that they get mega boring. Who wants to see a plant get cut up? The math and tech ones rock :)

    1. Re:If you get one, get the 1994 one. by ch2 · · Score: 1

      She was given a peerage last summer too - now Baroness Greenfield.

    2. Re:If you get one, get the 1994 one. by CatherineCornelius · · Score: 1
      1994 Journey to the Centre of the Brain
      Dr. Susan Greenfield

      [...]

      Much of this lecture contained comparisons of brains and computers, and the way in which they may work together in the future. There were also a lot of practicals.

      Traditionally the RI Christmas lecture series features at least one child-gratifying explosion. I shudder to think what Susan Greenfield must have gone through in order to fulfil this brief--whose brain did she blow up, and did she wear a protective rubber suit?

  32. Can I buy video tapes of this? by CrazyJim0 · · Score: 1

    I'll pay 10$ per VHS tape if there isn't ALOT of them to be taped. I live in the states, and I am a scientific computing major interested in genetics and artificial intelligence(no relation in my book). If there aren't alot of tapes, this will rule.

    email me:sager@andrew.cmu.edu

    1. Re:Can I buy video tapes of this? by Kamran · · Score: 1

      Dyou have a PAL VHS player or does your VHS player play PAL format tapes. Cos your in the US which uses NTSC I seriously doubt it, and most people who can pick up Channel 4 are I believe in europe, so you wouldn't be able to play the VHS tapes anyway. Just read the transcripts. From the previous Christmas lectures I've seen, they've been dumbed down to make it easy for everyone to understand, and usually don't contain much stuff that people who already follow the field don't already know

  33. Question for Brits.... by TheOnlyCoolTim · · Score: 1

    I was looking at the TV license website and they claim they have vans that can pick up the signals of a specific TV component.

    Their wording made it seem like they require some sort of locator beacon to be built into every British TV. Is this the case or do their vans just pick up escaped EM radiation from the TV? If there is a beacon, do any of you ever open up your TVs and disable it? Or how about putting your TV inside a Faraday Cage?

    I don't know how you guys over there can support this as it seems from some of the other posts, having officers running around in vans and knocking on your door to make sure you don't have something completely harmless in your house without their approval seems way too big brother to me...

    Tim

    --
    Omnia vestra castrorum habetur nobis.
    1. Re:Question for Brits.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just like we have officers that knock down your door if you are a 18+ yr old male and dont sign up for the the selective service I suppose.

    2. Re:Question for Brits.... by spectecjr · · Score: 3

      I was looking at the TV license website and they claim they have vans that can pick up the signals of a specific TV component.

      Their wording made it seem like they require some sort of locator beacon to be built into every British TV. Is this the case or do their vans just pick up escaped EM radiation from the TV? If there is a beacon, do any of you ever open up your TVs and disable it? Or how about putting your TV inside a Faraday Cage?


      Good luck actually getting a picture of anything other than snow if you ever *do* put your TV inside a Faraday cage.

      Basically, it works like this:

      1. Your television receiver has a superheterodyning circuit in it. It basically generates a specific frequency, mixes this with the input signal, separates out the beats caused by interference, and amplifies them.

      2. Your television is a big glass tube wrapped in metal coils. These coils tweak at a rate of 15kHz (horizontal coil) and 50Hz (vertical coil) [note: these figures for PAL only].

      3. Both of these (1 and 2) emit electromagnetic radiation with detectable and verifiable signatures. Using (1) you can even determine what station someone is tuned to. Using (2) confirms that the person has a monitor or TV that is operating.

      Think of it as something like TEMPEST.

      Simon

      --
      Coming soon - pyrogyra
    3. Re:Question for Brits.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      And of course, trying to block TEMPEST surveillance is completely illegal in the UK (since the mid '80s?).

    4. Re:Question for Brits.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      What they normally use is a database with all the addresses which don't have a TV licence. Then they send "Occupier" at those addresses a letter on the lines of, "You don't appear to have a TV Licence, you need to have one to watch TV, here are the ways to pay."

      There's a strong suspicion that all the vans contain is an electric motor to rotate the fake aerial on top.

      Lately the BBC tried a "name and shame" campaign on the lines of "x homes in Easy Street, Anytown, don't have a TV licence". This led to at least one such poster being graffitied with "That's because I don't have a fscking TV, and you know it."

    5. Re:Question for Brits.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The detector vans do work. I know this because my brother-in-law designed them for the BBC. The prototype was so impressive that the BBC tried to back out of the deal and use just the one 'real' van and a fleet of dummies (this is where the rumour came from); however my brother-in-law threatened to go to the press unless they completed the whole order. The funny thing was that he was one of the 1st to be caught out by them. Poetic justice.

    6. Re:Question for Brits.... by funky+womble · · Score: 1
      What they normally use is a database with all the addresses which don't have a TV licence.

      ...combined with a list of people who've bought televisions/videos/satellite receivers/tv cards, and given their real address (it's a requirement for shops to request details and pass them on to tv licensing otherwise they can be fined), plus presumably address lists from subscription services (sky/etc).

    7. Re:Question for Brits.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You could run a cable through the Faraday cage hopefully without compromising its integrity....

    8. Re:Question for Brits.... by Martin+S. · · Score: 2
      I was looking at the TV license website and they claim they have vans that can pick up the signals of a specific TV component

      All Electronic devices emit EM radiation, they pick-up these emmissions from the TV's tube, the 'detectors' are handheld today.

      Or how about putting your TV inside a Faraday Cage?

      Yes, tempest, prevents them, but it's rather inpractical.

      how you guys over there can support this

      Do you support tax evasions ? Well neither do we!

      A TV license pays for the BBC, we support it because 1) The BBC produces the best quality TV & Radio in the world, certainsly better than satellite or cable alternatives. 2) A TV licence costs about 1/5 the price of Satellite or cable alternatives.

  34. the "FOX of science television" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is it just me, or has Discovery gone *way* past being fluffy pop-science of late? They seem to be more in the realm of pop-non-science.

    It seems like half the time I tune in, they are doing some special on the Bermuda Triangle or whether the Apollo Moon landings were faked or aliens built the Great Pyramids.

    What worries me more than dumbing things down is the spreading of unscientific rumors.

    How far they have fallen from the early glory days of "Shark Week."

  35. Kevin Warwick by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    (Hm... moderate or post or moderate and post anonymously...)

    I'm getting pissed off with people attacking Kevin Warwick. Yes, even those who know him affectionately refer to him as 'Mad' Kevin. But it's not like he's attacked anyone, has exibited aggressive behaviour in public, or has really done anything to deserve such harsh criticism. (Such as, oh, Derek Smart.)

    Yes, some of his ideas are bit outlandish. But he runs one of few cybernetics departments in the entire world. You'd expect his ideas and focus to be completely different from computer science AI departments around the world. The difference is subtle but important. You can't comment on what his department do internally, because as a former student - to coin a phrase - it's very, very good shit they get up to, if a little more grounded than Kevin's bluesky concepts.

    The field of cybernetics needs evangelists to attract attention and to help it to grow. I don't doubt that anything Kevin has said in public will come to pass - it's merely a matter of when the technology will catch up to his ideas, as is the case with 90% of science-fiction. Although, no, I don't eventually think that robots will enslave humans - but I still think we need to think about such things. It will be one of the most startling moments in human history when we eventually create an artificial life form with the mental capacity to rival us. The first true 'alien intelligence' we're ever going to encounter, built by our own hand.

    Nobody knows what pace progress will take. Cybernetics is an artificial science just like computer science - the limit is effectively the limits of our imagination and how long our species exists to dream. You do have a sense of imagination, don't you? (Or maybe not after seeing your web site. God, I'm funny. ;o)

    FYI, I was originally on a joint cybernetics & comp. sci degree when I was there in the mid-1990's. The cybernetics stuff was seriously cool and very very involved. It was heartbreaking when I was forced to switch to pure computer science because the math required for cybernetics was way beyond my abilities. Dysgraphia and heavy math don't mix I suppose.

  36. Professor Warwick(old AI/LISP vs new AI/Python) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Everyone fears change. Kevin Warwick's ideas represent a huge change in the possible trends of technology. A lot of the so called "AI community" are now split over whether to use Python or LISP for AI programming, for example ....

  37. TV licensing by DrDevil · · Score: 1

    I am a briton and I hate the licensing fee, whenever I watch BBC I get half way through the program, need a pee and am waiting for the adverts, and it takes me bloody twenty minutes to realise there arent any bloody adverts and I have to miss the bloody program to pee! Its soo damn annoying!

    1. Re:TV licensing by njdj · · Score: 1

      whenever I watch BBC I get half way through the program, need a pee and am waiting for the adverts, and it takes me bloody twenty minutes to realise there arent any bloody adverts and I have to miss the bloody program to pee

      Ever heard of VCRs?

    2. Re:TV licensing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hehe - we all know that feeling!

      But whats worse is the tennis (Wimby) and the way they knock the matches back and forth between BBC1 and BBC2 - "You can see the rest of that match on BBC2" - diving for the remote... Arghhh!!

      --JCC

    3. Re:TV licensing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You need Sky+ live pause.

  38. Channel 4 in Italy? by Gallo+Nero · · Score: 1

    I was working in Italy for 6 months this year and I really missed my Channel 4, (if I could only choose one channel that would be it). Does anybody know if it's possible to get Channel 4 in Italy (I'm willing to pay!)?

    Shoot some Fish!

    1. Re:Channel 4 in Italy? by Doug+Neal · · Score: 0

      Channel 4 is available via free-to-air DVB on the Astra satellite at 28.2 degrees east, transponder 24, EPG number 4. You'll need a suitably aligned satellite dish and DVB reciever to tune in.

      In fact, with the co-operation of someone in the UK, you can sign up to the entire Sky Digital service and get a free decoder and installation. Then get your friend to ship the decoder to you. Arrange your own satellite dish installation (you'll need a pretty big dish to pick it up down in Italy though) - but it should work.

    2. Re:Channel 4 in Italy? by funky+womble · · Score: 1

      No subsidy on the decoder unless it's hooked up to a UK telephone line 24x7.. It's not really legal to watch it outside the UK either. (That's not to say that it can't be done though).

  39. Cybernetics and Kevin Warwick by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Kevin Warwick has appropriated the term cybernetics for his tomfoolery, but don't think that means he's actually doing anything that anyone else would recognise as cybernetics. While Kevin Warwick is shoving dog pellets up his arse, real researcher are learning about human-machine interfaces and artificial organs. Warwick is a complete shonk

  40. Quality of the programme by andyapple · · Score: 1

    Oh man, these things used to be really good. i remember ones about AI and the Human Brain. but this year its just irritated me, that guy is just annoying. and it feels like A-Level content dressed up for 8yr olds! it doesnt achieve anything

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    Andy
  41. No longer on the BBC... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    H,

    Used to watch the RICL every year until they moved it to C4 which we can't get here in .nl (at least where I live, and we don't have a dish on the roof either). Major bummer. I don't think I'm gonna buy the video's though... Maybe I'll check out the way-too-small-video-streams when they come online.

    CU,
    J